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#64 - That sounds like a good plan - problem is - that's not what th…  [+] (1 new reply) 07/10/2016 on BLM DESTROYED!!! 0
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#65 - useroftheLOLZ (07/10/2016) [-]
If they don't want it, then that's too bad. Change isn't easy or painless. If they want to riot? Then so be it. The key thing though, is to make sure there is a path to escape. Not everyone will take it though, at first, but many will accept that they will have to change.

If Black Culture gets harmed in the process? Then would that be such a bad thing? If you look at the specific aspects of black culture living within poor neighborhoods, and it essentially is non existent outside of the classic poor culture or hood and gang culture. Cultures change all the time, remember back in the 1970's when everybody was listening to funk, Hendrix, smoking pot, and the Eagle vs Dove debate of the nuclear family vs the hippy movement that came about from Vietnam?

If people don't want to change? Well that's the thing, it won't matter that they don't. Some of the greatest civilizations in our past have fallen from catering and enabling those who refused to work. Its fair to give a helping hand to someone who cannot find work, who needs education to find it, or needs help feeding their kids because of the price of living which honestly, we could do a lot of good by bumping up the minimum wage a few dollars considering the price of living has risen just as well, its fair to support those who worked their entire lives supporting their elders, to only receive that same treatment when they're elderly, it's fair to support those who because of physical or mental limitations, cannot work, if they're mentally disabled, like my mom and have MS, are a veteran and lost their arms, and so forth. It's not fair to everybody else to have to support those who can work but refuse to.

If that's how they want to live, then cut off any ability they have to earn illegal income and tell them they can either sink or swim, but you must foster the environment that shows them that there is so much more to just sucking it up and start paddling. Killing them with kindness my pulling everybody else down is not going to get them to work. And you know what? They might never work a day in their lives. But the majority will be forced to change, will find work, and this will see an improvement to the community around them.

#56 - I'll agree with a lot of what you say, but do you have any ide…  [+] (4 new replies) 07/09/2016 on BLM DESTROYED!!! 0
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#63 - useroftheLOLZ (07/10/2016) [-]
>>#57,
Dude? Honestly, I have next to no idea.

I mean, to fix the issue, it'd take time and a lot of work, first and foremost you'd want to severely constrict the welfare programs that allow this sort of poverty to exist and conduct random checks to make sure that if someone is getting welfare for their kids, it's fucking going to the kids. If not? You lose your kid, that simple.

Second, legalize drugs because that's going to be the next thing people are going to turn to selling and making.

Third, improve education spending. A lot of money can be freed up if the way the Military's budget works, were to be reworked so that it didn't incentivise the military to spend every dime less their budget is slashed next year. And being able to work on the next generation will be important.

Fourth, you'd definitely need to breath life back into the ghettos and inner city neighborhoods. Any neighborhood needs small business to keep it's populace working and healthy, but with a lack of factory jobs, you lack the ability to seriously concentrate employment.

And that is sort of the bigger issue at hand, and why fixing poverty is so difficult. Everything is mostly moving to being automated, to the point where post scarcity is starting to be achieved in some areas.

Fifth, to address above, I can only see one decent answer, spread the population out. It sounds counter intuitive seeing as industrialization was only achieved because of a concentrated population, but by spreading out the high population density areas, you can fill out smaller communities, encourage local small business and economic growth on a small scale.

My family was kind of the same way, as was my grandfathers. First generation Pol/German, grew up in the great depression, raised six sons in near poverty, my father raised three in slightly better conditions after working his ass off for so long and getting a lucky break.

It ultimately doesn't matter what the government could do for me, honestly the single best thing would be free education but if I wasn't paying for at least part of it, I know I wouldn't be so invested in doing well as I am right now.

You have to make people want to change, in order to fix the situation that is caused by poverty. You can't end a culture, but you can alter it, best way I can see is creating local jobs, spreading out the population, buying up and demolishing dilapidated neighborhoods, reining in and creating more oversight in government aid programs and improving education.
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#64 - CosplayNinja (07/10/2016) [-]
That sounds like a good plan - problem is - that's not what they want. You do any kind of limiting of welfare and you're going to have even bigger riots. You try to do much of those other things and you're actively trying to destroy black culture. They want the handouts. They feel entitled to the handouts and that they deserve a free ride (a lot of the poverty stricken blacks and millennials).
You're plan works well over a few generations for those that want to change. It's not going to change those that don't want that outcome (family of four being comfortable with one or both parents working a full time job, kids getting good educations, grandparents able to retire and live comfortably off of what they've earned, ect.).
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#65 - useroftheLOLZ (07/10/2016) [-]
If they don't want it, then that's too bad. Change isn't easy or painless. If they want to riot? Then so be it. The key thing though, is to make sure there is a path to escape. Not everyone will take it though, at first, but many will accept that they will have to change.

If Black Culture gets harmed in the process? Then would that be such a bad thing? If you look at the specific aspects of black culture living within poor neighborhoods, and it essentially is non existent outside of the classic poor culture or hood and gang culture. Cultures change all the time, remember back in the 1970's when everybody was listening to funk, Hendrix, smoking pot, and the Eagle vs Dove debate of the nuclear family vs the hippy movement that came about from Vietnam?

If people don't want to change? Well that's the thing, it won't matter that they don't. Some of the greatest civilizations in our past have fallen from catering and enabling those who refused to work. Its fair to give a helping hand to someone who cannot find work, who needs education to find it, or needs help feeding their kids because of the price of living which honestly, we could do a lot of good by bumping up the minimum wage a few dollars considering the price of living has risen just as well, its fair to support those who worked their entire lives supporting their elders, to only receive that same treatment when they're elderly, it's fair to support those who because of physical or mental limitations, cannot work, if they're mentally disabled, like my mom and have MS, are a veteran and lost their arms, and so forth. It's not fair to everybody else to have to support those who can work but refuse to.

If that's how they want to live, then cut off any ability they have to earn illegal income and tell them they can either sink or swim, but you must foster the environment that shows them that there is so much more to just sucking it up and start paddling. Killing them with kindness my pulling everybody else down is not going to get them to work. And you know what? They might never work a day in their lives. But the majority will be forced to change, will find work, and this will see an improvement to the community around them.

#57 - imfunnyokay (07/09/2016) [-]
useroftheLOLZ - So overall, if I'm understanding correctly, a majority of black folks became poor because of manufacturing jobs disappearing and they continue to stay poor because they think they don't have any other options/what's the point if they can survive on food stamps.

Thank you for the long response anyway. Ya learned me some new stuff.

So I would ask the same question as CosplayNinja. Is there a solution? What would have changed your life significantly if the government did something for your family-- what would that "something" have been?
#21 - I agree with you...to a point. Poverty is much easier to comb…  [+] (9 new replies) 07/09/2016 on BLM DESTROYED!!! +11
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#25 - useroftheLOLZ (07/09/2016) [-]
You're more talking about the symptoms that perpetuate the cause.

The culture of hood thugs and all that bullshit only exists because of a largely uneducated, poor mass of unemployed individuals.

Why get educated if you cant get a job?

Why get educated if your school is shit and you're from the bad side of town where you know, nobody will hire you because of the culture that surrounds you?

Why get a job when the government will support your sorry ass for free?

Why get a job when you can run a gang and make more money from selling drugs and stealing shit, and have a better time doing it from the adrenaline rush there is to flipping off the establishment that seems to fuck over everybody you know?

Why respect the cops when they're just around to fuck your shit you worked so hard for?

The biggest concentrations of poverty are in places like Chicago where there was once a strong blue collar presence that was heavily involved in industry, but because of the times, many of these jobs were and are being lost to automation. The lower midwest, once the steel belt, became the rust best after WW2 when the demand for refined iron ore, plummeted in the post abundance of easily recycled steel, and even more so when factory jobs became heavily automated due to the adaptation of manufacturing process learned, that were used to once build planes, ships, tanks and rifles.

Anybody who escapes poverty does not follow the hood thug lyfe culture, except for white collar shitheads who want to be TUFF without being a real man because they have daddy issues. They know how bad that shit is once you realize how much better life is once you escape it.

The correlation between blacks being the majority of those in poverty actually does go back to a few generations when racism was actually a thing.

But in this day and age when it's so ridiculously easy to get some education?

It more comes down to the kind of environment poverty creates, one that is very, very hard to escape, and one too many people are happy to thrive in.
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#27 - zenler (07/09/2016) [-]
yo thats why ppl should steal education
#26 - imfunnyokay (07/09/2016) [-]
I don't understand what stance you have. Are you saying people are poor because of racism? Are you saying racism isn't a thing but poverty is? Are you saying poverty is the actual main cause for racism?

Could you please clear this up. I think you have a very nice point. If you could summarize it in a sentence or three that would be beneficial to understanding your point.
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#39 - useroftheLOLZ (07/09/2016) [-]
Poor people aren't poor because of racism. Racism is a thing but it doesn't make people poor. We live in a society of classism, where everybody looks down on the people above and below them, the people below you need to work harder and the people above unfairly acquired their position. That is what everybody feels in various degrees in this day and age and it has nothing to do with race.

The majority of poor people are poor because of the culture that surrounds being poor and incentivises being poor. In order to stop being poor you need a decent education, but because getting a higher education is next to impossible to get when you're poor because the poor people schools are shit, poor people have less incentive to escape their poverty, because the way they see it, what's the point of going through all the hard work of getting through college if you "Know" you're just going to end up failing half way into it?

The reason why so many poor people also exist is because we've seen a large decline in blue collar jobs due to the majority of factory work becoming automated.

The reason why so many poor blacks exist is something of a generational issue. Back in the late 19th and very early 20th century, when blacks were second class citizens, they couldn't get the education needed to get better jobs, so they were blue collar workers.

Get to 1945, blue collar jobs start drying up fast, the blacks who couldn't get an education for themselves now cannot even get one for their kids in order to escape the family's poverty, neighborhoods where poor, blue collar, black families used to live turn into ghettos since people of races and cultures tend to congregate into their own neighborhoods. The same happened to poor whites as well, but because a greater percentage of Whites had a decent education, they could get work elsewhere.

Get to 1970 when the hood scene started popping up, poor black and poor white youth started taking pride in their poverty, which saw the rise in gang activity and drug use, remember, there's still more poor blacks because their parents couldn't escape their parent's poverty. By now there's an abundance of government welfare and education programs to get people, especially blacks, out of their poverty. The newly born Poor people Culture that surrounds them incentivises them to not do so, though many still want to escape.

Get to today, after 2 or 3 generations of this shit, and America has developed a firmly established Ghetto and Poor People culture that makes people not feel the need to escape their situation because all their lives, they've been told by their peers they won't be able to escape, and the government feeds this with an abundance of welfare programs that kill people with kindness, and further perpetuates the cycle.

Back in the 1920's, saying "I'm black" may have been a somewhat legitimate excuse for as to why you're poor, but like today, it wasn't an excuse for resorting to a life of crime.

Today, it's not an excuse at all given all the government and private programs out there that are meant to pull poor people, especially blacks out of poverty. But they fall in line with the trap that is Poor Culture that tells them that no matter how hard they work, they will never escape, so why work at all? If your education doesn't mean shit, then why go to school? This is the Poor Culture that is the cause of poverty, right now. And it doesn't help that there are no blue collar, zero education jobs available anymore, that could turn the non working class, into a working blue collar class, who could then provide a healthy environment for their children to use in order to escape from poverty.

Poor people culture works in the same exact way religion indoctrinates young minds, unfortunately.

Sorry but this was the more ordered version, having grown up in poverty, I've seen what it's like and how easy it is to fall into the trap; and it's not something easily summarized in a few sentences.
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#56 - CosplayNinja (07/09/2016) [-]
I'll agree with a lot of what you say, but do you have any ideas on how to change this 'poverty mindset'?
My family were German and Swedish immigrants to the US right before WW2 and it took about 3-4 generations to get from my great grandparents working at a meat packing plant for 60 years to my parents who at 40 were finally able to say that they were comfortable middle class. It's all in the mindset. They knew that through hard work and squeezing every penny, they could escape poverty and they took pride in the fact that their hard work was getting them somewhere. My parents lived in a tiny one bedroom house and were very embarrassed when, during tough times, had to sign up for food stamps to keep me and my brother fed. They raised us the same way.
My question for you is - how do we encourage those below the poverty line to take pride in being self-sufficient? If we were to limit how much the government aids people (and seems to encourage them to stay dependent on), there would be riots. If we cut those programs, it's the kids that suffer most (because a lot of parents in those situations seem to have a hard time finding funds to get their kids food and school supplies, but always seem to have money for new iphones, shiny rims, and manicures).
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#63 - useroftheLOLZ (07/10/2016) [-]
>>#57,
Dude? Honestly, I have next to no idea.

I mean, to fix the issue, it'd take time and a lot of work, first and foremost you'd want to severely constrict the welfare programs that allow this sort of poverty to exist and conduct random checks to make sure that if someone is getting welfare for their kids, it's fucking going to the kids. If not? You lose your kid, that simple.

Second, legalize drugs because that's going to be the next thing people are going to turn to selling and making.

Third, improve education spending. A lot of money can be freed up if the way the Military's budget works, were to be reworked so that it didn't incentivise the military to spend every dime less their budget is slashed next year. And being able to work on the next generation will be important.

Fourth, you'd definitely need to breath life back into the ghettos and inner city neighborhoods. Any neighborhood needs small business to keep it's populace working and healthy, but with a lack of factory jobs, you lack the ability to seriously concentrate employment.

And that is sort of the bigger issue at hand, and why fixing poverty is so difficult. Everything is mostly moving to being automated, to the point where post scarcity is starting to be achieved in some areas.

Fifth, to address above, I can only see one decent answer, spread the population out. It sounds counter intuitive seeing as industrialization was only achieved because of a concentrated population, but by spreading out the high population density areas, you can fill out smaller communities, encourage local small business and economic growth on a small scale.

My family was kind of the same way, as was my grandfathers. First generation Pol/German, grew up in the great depression, raised six sons in near poverty, my father raised three in slightly better conditions after working his ass off for so long and getting a lucky break.

It ultimately doesn't matter what the government could do for me, honestly the single best thing would be free education but if I wasn't paying for at least part of it, I know I wouldn't be so invested in doing well as I am right now.

You have to make people want to change, in order to fix the situation that is caused by poverty. You can't end a culture, but you can alter it, best way I can see is creating local jobs, spreading out the population, buying up and demolishing dilapidated neighborhoods, reining in and creating more oversight in government aid programs and improving education.
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#64 - CosplayNinja (07/10/2016) [-]
That sounds like a good plan - problem is - that's not what they want. You do any kind of limiting of welfare and you're going to have even bigger riots. You try to do much of those other things and you're actively trying to destroy black culture. They want the handouts. They feel entitled to the handouts and that they deserve a free ride (a lot of the poverty stricken blacks and millennials).
You're plan works well over a few generations for those that want to change. It's not going to change those that don't want that outcome (family of four being comfortable with one or both parents working a full time job, kids getting good educations, grandparents able to retire and live comfortably off of what they've earned, ect.).
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#65 - useroftheLOLZ (07/10/2016) [-]
If they don't want it, then that's too bad. Change isn't easy or painless. If they want to riot? Then so be it. The key thing though, is to make sure there is a path to escape. Not everyone will take it though, at first, but many will accept that they will have to change.

If Black Culture gets harmed in the process? Then would that be such a bad thing? If you look at the specific aspects of black culture living within poor neighborhoods, and it essentially is non existent outside of the classic poor culture or hood and gang culture. Cultures change all the time, remember back in the 1970's when everybody was listening to funk, Hendrix, smoking pot, and the Eagle vs Dove debate of the nuclear family vs the hippy movement that came about from Vietnam?

If people don't want to change? Well that's the thing, it won't matter that they don't. Some of the greatest civilizations in our past have fallen from catering and enabling those who refused to work. Its fair to give a helping hand to someone who cannot find work, who needs education to find it, or needs help feeding their kids because of the price of living which honestly, we could do a lot of good by bumping up the minimum wage a few dollars considering the price of living has risen just as well, its fair to support those who worked their entire lives supporting their elders, to only receive that same treatment when they're elderly, it's fair to support those who because of physical or mental limitations, cannot work, if they're mentally disabled, like my mom and have MS, are a veteran and lost their arms, and so forth. It's not fair to everybody else to have to support those who can work but refuse to.

If that's how they want to live, then cut off any ability they have to earn illegal income and tell them they can either sink or swim, but you must foster the environment that shows them that there is so much more to just sucking it up and start paddling. Killing them with kindness my pulling everybody else down is not going to get them to work. And you know what? They might never work a day in their lives. But the majority will be forced to change, will find work, and this will see an improvement to the community around them.

#57 - imfunnyokay (07/09/2016) [-]
useroftheLOLZ - So overall, if I'm understanding correctly, a majority of black folks became poor because of manufacturing jobs disappearing and they continue to stay poor because they think they don't have any other options/what's the point if they can survive on food stamps.

Thank you for the long response anyway. Ya learned me some new stuff.

So I would ask the same question as CosplayNinja. Is there a solution? What would have changed your life significantly if the government did something for your family-- what would that "something" have been?
#26 - Swimming (paired with eating healthier and getting slightly sm… 07/08/2016 on FSF 10 the Jack edition +3
#92 - Absolutely nothing. 07/08/2016 on help make history +5
#26 - The more people that post how good this guy did in being respo… 07/08/2016 on TERROR IN DALLAS 0
#15 - I've been saying this for years. I think two years of service…  [+] (2 new replies) 07/08/2016 on Just a thought +1
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#22 - sodapops (07/08/2016) [-]
Yes. I assume you are a fan of Starship Troopers? Heinlein was a thinker and no mistake.
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#23 - sodapops (07/08/2016) [-]
Of course, in the case of Starship Troopers it was hardly mandatory. A great carreer choice and the only way to become a real citizen, but hard to get in and easy to get out.
#55 - Not every protest that BLM has hosted has preached violence, b…  [+] (4 new replies) 07/08/2016 on help make history +21
#432 - anon (07/09/2016) [-]
Of course they do. They're practically being hunted for sport. The rest of them are getting MAD. Talking hasn't helped. Begging, pleading, hasn't helped. All the peaceful marches and protests did nothing, just more fathers being murdered and little children getting shot by cops.

If peace isn't working, angry people turn to violence, because if peace doesn't work, violence is all that's left.
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#94 - ishallsmiteyou (07/08/2016) [-]
"not every"
I never said every protest.
#87 - anon (07/08/2016) [-]
no not all but what are they doing about the members that are?
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#92 - CosplayNinja (07/08/2016) [-]
Absolutely nothing.
#54 - The government will never recognize BLM as a terrorist organization. 07/08/2016 on help make history 0
#37 - Now 5 dead.  [+] (1 new reply) 07/08/2016 on BLM SHOT POLICE DALLAS!!! +3
#40 - anon (07/08/2016) [-]
Plus 12 cops shot :/
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