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#70 - id be lying if I said I didnt want this to happen 31 minutes ago on Sanik 0
#23 - ufotable made fate zero, same people doing UBW now 15 hours ago on girls be like 0
#20 - tried it, all it showed me was random echi, no exact source  [+] (1 new reply) 15 hours ago on Let's make a thread ALL... 0
User avatar #21 - anointedbyfire (15 hours ago) [-]
well thats where i found it
#18 - whats the name of it?  [+] (3 new replies) 15 hours ago on Let's make a thread ALL... 0
User avatar #19 - anointedbyfire (15 hours ago) [-]
google images
#20 - CommonJoo (15 hours ago) [-]
tried it, all it showed me was random echi, no exact source
User avatar #21 - anointedbyfire (15 hours ago) [-]
well thats where i found it
#7 - So there's a recent death battle pitting Kirby vs majin buu. T…  [+] (37 new replies) 15 hours ago on Sanik +4
User avatar #64 - peezle (56 minutes ago) [-]
Angry fanboys. Angry fanboys everywhere...
#70 - CommonJoo (31 minutes ago) [-]
id be lying if I said I didnt want this to happen
#8 - misterjollie (15 hours ago) [-]
Curse you for bringing that shit storm here. Kirby is also not near fast enough to keep up with Majin Buu and if he can be hurt by those little weak things walking around dreamland I can't see him holding up to one of his punches either. But guise Kirby survived an exploding planet and various other inconsistencies..bla bla bla.
User avatar #11 - metajunky (12 hours ago) [-]
Kirby is FTL on his warp star, is durable enough to tank a planet exploding and strong enough to crack one with a punch, and is versatile as fuck. Buu has destructive ability and is unpredictable, but that's it. Once Kirby finds a way to get past his regrn, the fight is over. Don't be a hater
#60 - misterjollie (1 hour ago) [-]
for the last time the planet cracking thing is a mini game. if he were really that strong all the time he wouldn't need to absorb enemies in the first place and the fighting Kirby would be pointless. The DB involved a lot of non canon nonsense. Also kirby was not fighting on a warp star the whole time which means yet again he's not fast enough to keep up with Majin Buu as anyone who has played a Kirby game can see.
User avatar #62 - metajunky (59 minutes ago) [-]
1) Kirby smacked Marx so hard that when he was sent flying into Nova; a planet sized, wish granting comet, Nova blew up. His strength is consistent

2) Kirby copies his enemies to get added powers, not necessarily to increase his strength

3) The fight animation is just for fun and not necessarily an accurat depiction of how the fight would happen
#66 - misterjollie (54 minutes ago) [-]
you can't say the fight animations are just for fun when the only way Kirby beat buu was throwing him into the sun. Even if we were to allow Kirby to be that strong physically which he never is except for cut scenes. simply hitting buu hard would not be enough. Kirby is also slow as shit and can't keep up with someone who fights so fast they can hardly be seen. Don't start with that warp star shit either because the whole fight wouldn't take place on one.
User avatar #68 - metajunky (45 minutes ago) [-]
1) The fight is for fun, otherwise the show would be just boring analysis. It doesn't mean that it's wrong, like how Kirby can beat Buu by chucking him into the Sun for example

2) ...Right. So Asura never punched a planet in the face because it happened in a cutscene? And Link never stabbed Ganondorf in the face because it only happened in a cutscene? Ok then, buddy. And Buu never had to face a planet cracking punch before, so your point is moot

3) On the warp star, which Death Battle noted that Kirby can pull out at any time, Kirby is faster than light. To move at FTL speeds effectively, you need the reactions to keep up, so even off the warp star Kirby has FTL reactions. Buu never traveled or reacted to something at that speed

Stop posting, you don't know what you're talking about
#72 - mykol (16 minutes ago) [-]
also if he wants to say cutscenes don't count because kirby isn't that strong in game it should be noted that buu and every other dragonball z characters movements are clearly visible when I watch the show lol.
#12 - Vegeto (12 hours ago) [-]
**Vegeto used "*roll picture*"**
**Vegeto rolled image**

I really don't care about the Kirby vs Buu debate (I don't know much about Kirby's feats anyway), but Death Battle screwed up on both sides majorly.

For Buu, they just assumed that he can't go FTL, but we have 12 year old Goku breaching FTL effortlessly in Dragon Ball.

In terms of power, they just call Buu a causal city buster who can eventually destroy a planet. Piccolo stated more than once that each form of Buu could immediately destroy the planet if he so wanted to. Hell, Kid Buu almost did that with a Ki Blast and he wasn't even the strongest Buu.

And don't get me started on Kid Buu suddenly dying because "He didn't Instant Movement away from the Spirit Bomb, so he can't Instant Movement away from his own attack."

On Kirby's side, they gave him the feat of cracking the planet with a punch, (which is an impressive feat), but they somehow use that to rival the DBZ characters, who normally use energy attacks for range or to power up physical attacks.

Then they give that weird "he threw a giant pan into the Sun thing" which barely make sense to begin with, because they casually overlook how the pan is changing direction, stopping on the sun, and returning to Earth something that is logically impossible without interacting it a second time.

Finally, they dare to undermine Buu's durability by saying "Kirby can tank a planet explosion while Kid Buu was blown to pieces and had to regenerate." and that Buu's body can be pierced by regular bullets.

Buu's body isn't meant to be the most durable thing ever (but it's still damn durable, or it'd turn into jelly in every fight.) It's malleable, which means regardless of what happens to him, unless the damage is stronger than he can handle, he will regenerate with no problem.

Seriously, I thought the Goku vs Superman debate was bad.
#73 - penileburglar (1 minute ago) [-]
Eh, frankly, I don't care either way.

Neither character's canon is actually consistent in the first place. Kirby can survive a planet-killing explosion in one moment, but has to dodge (or sometimes even dies to) a few bombs in other moments.

And DBZ has *never* been consistent. Weaker characters can put up a fight against people completely outside of their power level whenever it's convenient to the plot, but then get immediately put down otherwise. Characters that have the strength to destroy planets with energy beams still bother to throw casual punches and kicks and small ki attacks each other. Continuity was never the point. Gratuitous explosions, fighting, muscles, and entertainment was always the point of the series.

I don't think death battle fucked up at all. They can't even begin to approach a correct answer Their job is to list each character's most ridiculous feats, make a few jokes, provide entertainment, and then give us a nice fight animation to nerd out over for a few minutes. In that, they delivered.
#38 - gedab (4 hours ago) [-]
...So why is it that every death battle involving dragon ball z characters turns into a huge shit storm debate.

And how can you have a death battle involving what cannot be killed, i.e. deadpool, superman, etc. Death implies that you can die- oh fuck it, I don't feel like debating, hence the spoiler tags.
User avatar #67 - peezle (54 minutes ago) [-]
I love dragonball but hate the fanbase. They act like Goku being beaten is completely unbelievable.
User avatar #69 - gedab (43 minutes ago) [-]
Can't the true be said about diehard fans of any fanbase?
#53 - anonymous (2 hours ago) [-]
I somehow doubt the debate would exist if the DBZ characters had won. Most of us are fine to take Death Battle's word for it.
But yeah, Superman versus Goku was pretty lopsided just like Death Battle said, Superman obviously and inarguably outclasses Goku in every area; I suspect they made the video because it was somehow already an ongoing debate , and Deadpool versus Deathstroke was just dumb. You might be able to kill Deadpool by dumping him into the sun or something, but anything short of that probably wouldn't work.
User avatar #37 - thegoodgatsby (6 hours ago) [-]
I was actually going to read this whole thing, but you said that Goku breached "FTL effortlessly", which just isn't true. Even Gotenks (in the Buu saga, obviously), couldn't go FTL.
#63 - misterjollie (59 minutes ago) [-]
the larger issue is that kirby is not near fast enough to keep up with buu without his warp star which he didn't have for most of the fight
User avatar #14 - metajunky (11 hours ago) [-]
Part 2

"Finally, they dare to undermine Buu's durability by saying 'Kirby can tank a planet explosion while Kid Buu was blown to pieces and had to regenerate.' and that Buu's body can be pierced by regular bullets

Buu's body isn't meant to be the most durable thing ever (but it's still damn durable, or it'd turn into jelly in every fight.) It's malleable, which means regardless of what happens to him, unless the damage is stronger than he can handle, he will regenerate with no problem"

Durability =/= regeneration. Kirby can take a hit while a low power ki blast can blow a hole through Buu. The more damage Buu takes, the slower and less effective his regen becomes. Kirby is more likely to get hits on Buu than vice-versa due to his small size, speed, and counters for practically anything Buu throws at him

"Seriously, I thought the Goku vs Superman debate was bad"

For the record, Superman would DECIMATE the DBZ universe. Only Bills and Whis can give him some trouble, but he is still a heavy favorite in those fights
User avatar #17 - hingerdinger (11 hours ago) [-]
"For the record, Superman would DECIMATE the DBZ universe. Only Bills and Whis can give him some trouble, but he is still a heavy favorite in those fights."

You must know very little about DBZ. Beerus and Whis alone would fuck Superman's bitch. Considering Beerus is stronger than SSJ God Goku and Whis is stronger than Beerus. Not to mention you are undermining sheer strength and energy powers of each character. And just.

Please fucking stop.
User avatar #58 - metajunky (1 hour ago) [-]
Pre-Crisis, Post-Crisis, or New 52?
User avatar #20 - metajunky (11 hours ago) [-]
I know plenty. DBZ was mine and everybody's shit back in elementary school. It is what got me into watching "big boy" anime. I also know quite a bit about comics, especially Superman

Nobody in DBZ has shown the millions to billions of times FTL speeds (flat out, no bullshit, no disputes, and no exaggerated fan calculations) that Superman has

Nobody in DBZ can move planets, or destroy them with just their punches

Nobody in DBZ can dish out or take attacks that rival supernovas

This isn't me being a fanboy. I love DBZ in all its corniness and over the top action, but Superman is in another league. Dude phased a planet out of existence by vibrating
User avatar #22 - hingerdinger (11 hours ago) [-]
You're so lucky I'm too tired to argue or god damnit it I'd plow your anus with knowledge but for now I'l leave you with this, you also forgot about Vegito and Gogeta, who could easily destroy super pooper man with no problem. And you may be a big fan of both but that does not entitle you of knowing everything about either. And there is no fanboy calculations to Goku's strength, by now the fucker can literally bench a planet and his Ki's can triple that power by only going Kaoi Ken X2. You can't forget every factor of every opponent in every battle and you're forgetting hidden details that were not given numbers but shown as examples but yes, Goku and a lot of DBZ fuckers can go faster than light speed easily

And nigga.

Goku can destroy whole buildings by fucking sneezing don't gimmie your he vibrated bullshit, he also gets rapped by Batman for a living.
User avatar #24 - metajunky (11 hours ago) [-]
It's 3 where I'm at, so I'm not going to bother pointing out why you are completely full of it in every facet of what you just typed...for now. If you want to continue this fight in the morning, I will be happy to enlighten you

I will address one thing though. I just said that Superman removed a planet from reality by vibrating fast. How in the fuck are you going to counter that by saying he can destroy a building, sneezing or no sneezing? Step up your game nigga
User avatar #25 - hingerdinger (11 hours ago) [-]
>Enlighten
I can see the shit eating grin from here.
If you need to be proven wrong that bad, be my guest.

As for my example, your point by even bringing the stupid vibrating shit up is superman can do super hard cool shit with little effort.
My rebuttal is so can Goku, with less effort.
Keep trying, fuckboy, pretending to be right for this long will get you nowhere.
User avatar #27 - metajunky (10 hours ago) [-]
Ad hominem. Cranking out the best material already? All these years and the DBZ fanboys still argue like children. So are you older than 12 or would I be wasting my time tomorrow?
User avatar #16 - Vegeto (11 hours ago) [-]
"Durability =/= regeneration. Kirby can take a hit while a low power ki blast can blow a hole through Buu. The more damage Buu takes, the slower and less effective his regen becomes. Kirby is more likely to get hits on Buu than vice-versa due to his small size, speed, and counters for practically anything Buu throws at him "

That was only shown in filler when Vegito pounds the daylights out of Buu for 2 episodes straight. Buu was shown regenerating near immediately from even nearly life threatening attacks. The only time he takes a long time to regenerate is when the story is bringing up tension (EX. Fat Buu from Vegeta's explosion and Kid Buu from Earth's explosion)

The only way to completely defeat Buu is to take him down with a single strong enough attack, otherwise, he'll just re-emerge from the smoke and pieces.

Beerus and Whis can take turns shooting Ki blasts at Buu all day and night, but if each individual Ki Blast is weaker than Buu, they aren't going to get any closer to killing him.

"For the record, Superman would DECIMATE the DBZ universe. Only Bills and Whis can give him some trouble, but he is still a heavy favorite in those fights"

Believe me, I'm not going to start to ATTEMPT to get to that discussion, regardless of who wins. Even if Superman was leagues stronger than Goku, Death Battle did a painstakingly bad job of proving why, and too many people blindly follow it.
User avatar #23 - metajunky (11 hours ago) [-]
It's like 3, so I'm not really in the mood to continue further. Goodnight/morning
User avatar #21 - metajunky (11 hours ago) [-]
"That was only shown in filler when Vegito pounds the daylights out of Buu for 2 episodes straight. Buu was shown regenerating near immediately from even nearly life threatening attacks. The only time he takes a long time to regenerate is when the story is bringing up tension (EX. Fat Buu from Vegeta's explosion and Kid Buu from Earth's explosion)"

Build up tension? No, those are defined limits. The DBZ wiki states Buu's weaknesses as such

dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Regeneration#Magical_Regeneration

"The only way to completely defeat Buu is to take him down with a single strong enough attack, otherwise, he'll just re-emerge from the smoke and pieces.

Beerus and Whis can take turns shooting Ki blasts at Buu all day and night, but if each individual Ki Blast is weaker than Buu, they aren't going to get any closer to killing him"

Yep, an attack powerful enough to keep his molecuse from reforming. In other words, separate the atoms. That is what the Sun does. It is Kirby's only way to take him out permanently, but he can pull it off considering his stats

"Believe me, I'm not going to start to ATTEMPT to get to that discussion, regardless of who wins. Even if Superman was leagues stronger than Goku, Death Battle did a painstakingly bad job of proving why, and too many people blindly follow it"

It wasn't a perfect analysis, I agree. Some figures were ignored for both sides, Goku was given the benefit of the doubt in way too many of their calculations while his strength was lowballed a bit, and Superman's speed advantage was downplayed quite a bit too. The important thing is that they got the right person as the victor, though many DBZ fans will disagree
#61 - misterjollie (1 hour ago) [-]
No it was shown when fat buu was fightig kid buu that if a buu is beaten bad enough he cant regen because he takes a small amount of ki to do so. Just saiyan.
User avatar #65 - metajunky (55 minutes ago) [-]
...Which means he has limits, just like the wiki says
User avatar #13 - metajunky (11 hours ago) [-]
Part 1

"For Buu, they just assumed that he can't go FTL, but we have 12 year old Goku breaching FTL effortlessly in Dragon Ball"

They assumed it because they can't

"In terms of power, they just call Buu a causal city buster who can eventually destroy a planet. Piccolo stated more than once that each form of Buu could immediately destroy the planet if he so wanted to. Hell, Kid Buu almost did that with a Ki Blast and he wasn't even the strongest Buu"

They just mentioned his city busting as a feat, not that it was his limit. They mention multiple times that Buu is a casual planet level threat in DBZ

"And don't get me started on Kid Buu suddenly dying because 'He didn't Instant Movement away from the Spirit Bomb, so he can't Instant Movement away from his own attack'"

The fight animation is just there for show, not an indication of how it would play out. IM is no fix all solution

"On Kirby's side, they gave him the feat of cracking the planet with a punch, (which is an impressive feat), but they somehow use that to rival the DBZ characters, who normally use energy attacks for range or to power up physical attacks"

Simply put: no DBZ character is on Kirby's level of physical strength. There punches cause mountains to crumple and create canyons, not crack a planet like the puffball does

"Then they give that weird "he threw a giant pan into the Sun thing" which barely make sense to begin with, because they casually overlook how the pan is changing direction, stopping on the sun, and returning to Earth something that is logically impossible without interacting it a second time"

I don't know why they included that either. Seemed weird
User avatar #15 - Vegeto (11 hours ago) [-]
"They assumed it because they can't "

I I said before, 12 year old Goku quite literally outran light when fighting Tien. Yamcha and a Saibaman were moving too fast for the semi-untrained eye, and the likes of Frieza was moving too fast for the trained eye.

"They just mentioned his city busting as a feat, not that it was his limit. They mention multiple times that Buu is a casual planet level threat in DBZ "

They still try to put up that Kirby is stronger than Buu (more than just in physical strength).

"The fight animation is just there for show, not an indication of how it would play out. IM is no fix all solution "

I understand that part, but Death Battle completely used the Spirit Bomb thing as a cop out so they don't have to explain why he didn't use Instant Movement.

Goku can use the much more limited Instant Transmission in extreme situations, but Kid Buu can't use Instantaneous Movement in the same situations?

"Simply put: no DBZ character is on Kirby's level of physical strength. There punches cause mountains to crumple and create canyons, not crack a planet like the puffball does"

I can concede to physical strength, because by the time DBZ was set in motion, a battle is alost solely determined by how much ki the user had compared to the enemy, and not physical strength.

But their ki can also augment their physical strength and durability to extreme levels as well.
User avatar #18 - metajunky (11 hours ago) [-]
"I I said before, 12 year old Goku quite literally outran light when fighting Tien. Yamcha and a Saibaman were moving too fast for the semi-untrained eye, and the likes of Frieza was moving too fast for the trained eye"

No, he didn't

"They still try to put up that Kirby is stronger than Buu (more than just in physical strength)"

Kirby took down villains that are cosmic abominations and abstract horrors. Yes, he has the power to take out Buu, considering lesser characters managed to do so

"I understand that part, but Death Battle completely used the Spirit Bomb thing as a cop out so they don't have to explain why he didn't use Instant Movement

Goku can use the much more limited Instant Transmission in extreme situations, but Kid Buu can't use Instantaneous Movement in the same situations? "

The fact that Kirby has multiple ways to dump Buu into the Sun defeats IM's usefulness. Goku couldn't use IT when Buu was going to blow up Earth, which is a pretty extreme situation

"I can concede to physical strength, because by the time DBZ was set in motion, a battle is alost solely determined by how much ki the user had compared to the enemy, and not physical strength.

But their ki can also augment their physical strength and durability to extreme levels as well"

If someone is vastly outclassed in physical traits, it doesn't matter how how much ki they have. Kirby is magnitudes stronger, faster, and more durable, plus can copy a variety of moves from Buu. Ki can agument those stats, but only to a certain extent. Buu still got blown to smithereens loads of times
#31 - anonymous (9 hours ago) [-]
Hey scrublord, you have to move faster than light to do the mirror image technique (supposedly) so calm your headhole.
User avatar #55 - metajunky (2 hours ago) [-]
Nope, just faster than the eye can perceive. A crummy translation causes the confusion

outskirtsbattledomewiki.com/index.php/13-general-obd-terms/162-faster-than-the-eye
#28 - blakeserene (10 hours ago) [-]
couldn't kirby just eat him?
User avatar #54 - metajunky (2 hours ago) [-]
Not really. He could and get some of his powers, but Buu can shout his way out like he did in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber
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