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|#10 - Please, my dear friend, elaborate. [+] (17 new replies)||03/10/2014 on Insert funny title here||+2|
#11 - soldieroffortunemp (03/10/2014) [-]
His policies are destructive to America.
1. He is downsizing the military to 440,000. Smaller than before WW2
2. Obamacare is a scam, it has literally forced millions off of plans that would otherwise be good. Why do I, a 21 year old male need maternity care? I don't.
3. His firearm policies are unconstitutional, never blame the tool in a crime unless it is a gun.
4. He spends a lot more tax-payer money on extravagant vacations that he doesn't need to take, and even more on his wife's vacations and clothing.
5. He has limited the freedom of the press ( unconstitutional)
6. He made the division between races even larger when he stepped forward trying to make the Trayvon Martin case political.
(This is just a small taste of what he has done and will do.)
#19 - xpenoxis (03/10/2014) [-]
Hi, I certainly agree with what you are saying. however Consider all the "millennial" presidents; or the two of them that is. George Bush led us into two wars passed the Patriot Act which Led to PRISM an NSA surveillance program that was perfectly legal, although shady as fuck. Killed several thousand Americans with the two wars ended up causing a Global Recession (indirectly albeit) and left a general mess for Barack Obama to fix. I haven't been really impressed by either party.
But to blame a president for his policies is to forget that America is a two party dictatorship run by people with the most money. That president does have a constituency to please. Every president has had a lavish budget for himself. Also the political parties use the media as more of a tool... Just go watch one report from Fox then another from MSNBC.
As an American citizen you have a right to your opinion but I also have a right o call you wrong. Please do try to be less biased and perhaps read a little bit.
#23 - 2scared2login (03/10/2014) [-]
I agree with you on every point except for your calling America a "two-party dictatorship." Power is far too centralized around those with the largest budgets, but that still hardly constitutes a dictatorship. Perhaps you were using hyperbole? I'd love to hear more of your opinion.
#28 - xpenoxis (03/10/2014) [-]
My opinion is that a government should allow states to operate autonomous from a broader Federal System. Federal Law should be a broad sweeping general set of laws. Dictating charges on rape murder theft etc. Then on the state level you look at more intricate things Legalization of Marijuana, Traffic violations, Alcohol use, Tobacco, LGBT. The federals use a fair tax system to maintain federal parks, post office, roads and government agencies. A State operates on Property taxes, State sales tax and a kickback of the Fair Tax.
The military is kept at around 400,000 ready reserves and maybe 100,000 active duty personnel. This way we have a large, flexible, available, and cost effective fighting force. we sell surplus to other nations like the Ukraine or Poland or somewhere that needs new technology and hardware. We preach peace through pacification.
Our healthcare is a serious issue. I think the issue stems from the hospitals and insurance companies. A master charge list in an American hospital can vary from hospital to hospital. We need a board of elected officials who are experts in their fields to analyze and determine the costs for procedures and make them a federal standard. Then we make the insurance companies suffer the same way and individual would if they didn't pay. A hospital could settle it in courts specially tailored to this issue. A bill should never go from a Hospital to an individual with the words "Final Notice"
Finally we trim the fat out of the budget. Impose term limits on ALL offices of public officials. And we reduce their pay. The money they were making goes towards public funding; parks, schools, roads, and healthcare. GIF unrelated.
#16 - 2scared2login (03/10/2014) [-]
#13 - nigeltheoutlaw (03/10/2014) [-]
1. We do not need a large military. There is no military on the planet that could even begin to challenge us. We're still spending eight times as much as Russia on military, even after the cuts.
2. It's not so much a scam as a deeply flawed idea. It needs to be seriously revamped, and remember that it was passed by Congress, not by Obama.
3. Again, those policies are made by Congress. His personal opinions are not law.
4. Every president has done this. I won't defend it, but this isn't particular to Obama.
5. Bush did it before him (remember Free Speech Zones? I do, I was put in them at many anti-war protests), but that again does not make it right. It is, however, legal due to the Patriot Act, passed in 2001.
6. This is your opinion, and it's valid even if it's not correct. It'd be just as easy, if not easier, to argue that his opponents made the divisions among races larger for opposing Obama solely on the basis of his race rather than his policies.
#21 - soldieroffortunemp (03/10/2014) [-]
1. Why do we spend that much? Because we need a large military, American has had less than a century of peace since it became its own nation, when we get involved people get pissed, when we don't people get pissed. I would rather be prepared than instituting the draft to force others in when the time comes.
2. So flawed that he has made himself and others believe it is working, its not.
3.The policies are passed by congress but he has made it very clear he wants no firearms in the US. A universal disarmament.
4.Bush took less money than Obama, he went to his ranch in Texas, met with people and didn't spend millions to go to Hawaii.
5. I remember the Free speech zones, I disagree with them, but he never forced the whole media entertainment to shutdown news reports about his actions (Benghazi trials)
6. How is it my opinion when he states "If I had a son he would look like Trayvon Martin" and taking a side when he never should have. Why, for a a few weeks after the case were white kids, and white people getting the shit kicked out of them. Because the race line was crossed when he politicized the case.
#24 - nigeltheoutlaw (03/10/2014) [-]
1. We still spend more than the entire world on defense spending. You're being ridiculous.
2. If you say so.
3. Where has he said that? Link me to a video or audio file or else you are full of shit.
4. Where did I mention Bush here? Those vacations by Bush were still on taxpayer dollars, which is what you were complaining about in the first place.
5. So we're arguing varying degrees of free speech repression? Also, he didn't repress the media on the Benghazi trials or else you wouldn't have heard about them, would you?
6. He did say that. It is your opinion that that statement alone increased the tensions between different races in America. Isolated cases don't constitute a nationwide trend, they're isolated incidents at best.
#36 - asheskirata (03/10/2014) [-]
#35 - asheskirata (03/10/2014) [-]
The point of what I said is this:
"Fifty years after Dr. [Martin Luther] King talked about his dream for America’s children, the stubborn fact is that the life chances for the average black or brown child in this country lags behind by almost every measure and is worse for boys and young men,"
This is not true in the slightest, as people are more likely to hire african american men than caucasian men purely out of fear of being branded a racist. The life chances are no different, they haven't been different for at least 30 years, so all of this is a load of bullshit.
#38 - nigeltheoutlaw (03/10/2014) [-]
The life chances aren't any different? The civil rights movement only happened in the sixties. My mom was alive then, and I am/was directly affected by her poverty from being denied job opportunities as a result. To say that people aren't still affected by something that was so recent in history is ridiculous. Additionally, these policies are again, nothing new. "Affirmative Action" was around long before Obama took the presidency.
#41 - asheskirata (03/10/2014) [-]
Let me remind you that the 60's were approximately 50 years ago at this point. I said "30 years" because job opportunities haven't been any different in at least 30 years. The race card is called on every little thing that affects african americans nowadays, and it's depressing because there are some really great minds among the people, but they're pushed into the "struggle" and beaten down until they act like everyone else. Not to say that the african american culture are the only ones that do that, it just happens normally. People like to beat individuality out of others.
One of my friends, a gay black guy, has a high paying job and a happy life with his husband, but his mother and father disowned him when he left them behind to take the opportunities he wanted. He was beaten by his father until he was bloody because he wanted to be productive with his life instead of acting as if everyone was looking down on him because of his race. The reason I know this? It was brought up in the lawsuit he filed against his parents, and won, for child abuse. His father is exactly what's wrong with the African-American culture, he's one of the people who just wants to sit around and collect welfare checks, and give other, hardworking, black people a hard time. As well as blaming all of his self-caused problems on racism and hatred from white people.
#43 - nigeltheoutlaw (03/10/2014) [-]
They were. It's a great thing that every black person who had been oppressed for two centuries was immediately given a middle class job and absolved of all debts so that everybody was ready to go on equal footing.
You think the race card is called on every little thing, but it's really not. Your perceptions aren't reality.
That's an interesting story, but isn't it great that one anecdotal story of a guy you know doesn't represent an entire race in America? For every loser like that there are a dozen hard working, honest people, but nobody notices them because the stupid ones are loud.
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