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|#85 - I played the demo about a month ago, and I love it so much. So… [+] (1 new reply)||07/21/2014 on A short introduction to...||0|
|#4 - The western half of the Roman Empire wasn't defeated solely by… [+] (23 new replies)||07/03/2014 on Good Job, San Marino||+105|
#88 - devout feminist (07/04/2014) [-]
thanks faggot, i enjoyed the read.
#116 - serotonin (07/04/2014) [-]
well at one moment they did reclaim big chunk of it (even took southern Italy back). They were constantly under siege, like western part of empire and even worse. While Western Rome was overran by barbarians Eastern faced both barbarians AND armies of civilised kingdoms such as Persians.
#117 - theshadowed (07/04/2014) [-]
Yup. First the Sassanids, then the Muslims, then the Seljuk Turks. After the Sultanate of Rum was formed, they were pretty much done. No way they could recover
And then there was the fact that many of their emperors were corrupt and idiotic.
But the final straw was definitely the 4th cursade
#118 - serotonin (07/04/2014) [-]
"no way" is strong statemant.If you had said to Roman that Arabs will conquer whole northern africa he would laugh at you. If you said to Chinese nobles of 300 AD that Mongols would take over much of civilised world they would call you crazy. Crazy things happen all the time.
I am not proud to say that my people (serbs) did their part in bringing down Byzantine Empire. Unlike most barbarians we were gifted our land for our military service but later on as Empire grew weak our kings wanted to replace Byzantium with Serbo-Greek empire. We even founded one under Emperor Dushan... but it didnt last long after his death. Serbian expansion forced Byzantium to pay Turks to protect their western border....which gave Turks foothold in Europe. In our defence our rulers were among the first that recognised Turks as major threat even before they invaded Europe. Said emperor asked from pope permision to call the Crusade against Turks but those plans never got fullfiled because he died .
#120 - theshadowed (07/05/2014) [-]
The Serbs were brilliant servants of the empire up until that point. Can't really blame them for being ambitious.
I would say there was no way. The Sultunate of Rum and taken all but the coastline of Asia Minor, and if the Byzanines were to strike back, thats bringing the fury of the Seljuks, and likely the fatamid sultanate onto them. While the Byzantines had a brilliant military, I think even that would've been impossible for them
#122 - serotonin (07/05/2014) [-]
You are from?
Well if Empire have succeded in keeping Turks back a longer they maybe could be able to muster strength and to exploit Mongol incursion in midle east.
Also let me say it again....fuck venice. let it sink. city of wonders, of which 90% they stole . They even stole body of its saint protector. When they sacked Constantinopolis they destroyed so many marvels of art and technology among which were steam powered copper animatronics depicting greek and roman heroes. World had to wait some 500 years for such technology to resurface. So fuck them...with halberd
#126 - serotonin (07/05/2014) [-]
Well I see England/GB as balancer of Europe. Going to wars only to stop some other European power from getting to strong. Control as much of colonial world and keep neigbours from getting to big. France - Napoleon wars, Russia - Crimea, AustroHungary and Germany WW1 and 2.
#113 - thesovereigngrave (07/04/2014) [-]
Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that the Holy Roman Empire had any actual legal claims to be the successor of Rome. The Byzantine Empire was the continuation of the Roman Empire. They just said that "they were called, and called themselves, the Roman Empire." Which isn't quite true since most of Europe didn't call them the Roman Empire.
#25 - repostsrepost (07/03/2014) [-]
After the 3rd century onwards the army of Rome stopped being a professional Roman army like the one that dominated the Mediterranean and became full of gallic, Illyrian, and Germanic mercenaries. Eventually the Emperor stopped being the concept of a 'First Citizen" under Octavianus and Illyrians themselves started to make up the elite class of Rome. In other words, Rome started to be ruled by foreigners before they were ever invaded. As for the Byzantine question. Yeah, they called themselves the Roman Empire. A goose can call itself a duck but it doesn't make it one. Constantinople started when Constantine wanted to rule the empire away from the Senate and the Roman people. The Byzantine Empire was born form one emperor's desire to abandon Roman traditions and values and rule an empire the ay he wanted to. The first thing he did was build extravagant palaces for himself in Constantinople and did things he could never get away with in Rome.
#12 - wthree (07/03/2014) [-]
Even up until it's defeat, Constantinople was the greatest city on the face of the planet. It's thought that the wave of knowledge and science that came with the refugees to western europe after the city had fallen was a major force in western europe's position as a beacon for learning and scientific advancement.
Now Constantinople is a garbage heap filled with mosques.
#15 - mrgloboglobito (07/03/2014) [-]
Untrue, Constantinople was in steady decay 100 years (give or take) prior the last Ottoman Invasion. Their walls not only fell quickly because of the Ottoman Canons, but also because they were in shitty condition. Plus the garrison mas minuscule by the time of the last siege.
Yes Constantinople was majestic for a while, but you can't just compare to its glory immediately after the fall of Rome
#77 - nebraskaom (07/04/2014) [-]
Pretty much, Constantinople was a powerhouse for around 500 years, but basically the thing that killed it was the fourth crusade around 1200 C.E. A bunch of western powers intended to retake Jerusalem but didn't have the funds so decided to sack their fellow christian city of Constantinople instead. After that it was basically relegated to city state status until the Turks took it.
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