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did you know?
In "1955, Hugh Hefner agreed to publish in
Playboy a short story about straight men being
persecuted in a world where homosexuality was
the norm. In response to the criticism, Hefner
replied, ''If it was wrong to persecute
heterosexuals in a homosexual society then the
reverse was wrong, too."
teru/ p/ tont
moo ook.
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#21 - shadowkingdr (12/18/2013) [+] (6 replies)
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ok to all you what if people in the comments section read the 						*******					 thing again its a response to criticism so 						****					 off
ok to all you what if people in the comments section read the ******* thing again its a response to criticism so **** off
#395 - lolzordz (12/19/2013) [-]
thats so retarded. being straight is considered the 'norm' for a reason.. you cant just reverse roles and look it from another perspective, its not like racism.
#401 to #395 - TwiztidNinja (12/19/2013) [-]
here have this.
#402 to #401 - lolzordz (12/19/2013) [-]
why would i want that?
User avatar #403 to #402 - TwiztidNinja (12/19/2013) [-]
people seem to like lower quality images that are drawn on the internet for unknown reasons, thought maybe you were part of the bandwagon.
#404 to #403 - lolzordz (12/19/2013) [-]
only the over exaggerated low quality
User avatar #320 - coolcalx (12/19/2013) [-]
what the **** is going on in these comments
#311 - anonymous (12/19/2013) [-]
Try swapping out homosexual with homicidal and see if this logic still makes sense. Not saying those things are comparable. It's just that this logic falls apart with any discrimination we consider valid.
#309 - repostsrepost (12/19/2013) [-]
The whole pretense is bullcrap. There can never a society where homosexuality is the norm. Because then population growth wouldn't be a thing.
User avatar #321 to #309 - Kanoah (12/19/2013) [-]
You mean, like... the Greeks? Granted, it wasn't a 100% homosexuality rate, but goddamnit they were pretty gay.
#430 to #321 - repostsrepost (12/19/2013) [-]
At the time homosexuality wasn't an identity as it is today. If you had homosexual tendencies that was your own business but you still had a wife. You weren't gay or straight, you just did gay things from time to time. In many of these ancient civilizations homosexuality was practiced often but only man-woman marriage was recognized legally.
User avatar #315 to #309 - brobathehutt (12/19/2013) [-]
Nevermind the fact that we have cloning technology (illegal since Clinton), you can still artificially inseminate ******* women. Considering it's a homosexual society and not a MALE ONLY ******** CLUB society, I think it's safe to assume population growth would continue.
#431 to #315 - repostsrepost (12/19/2013) [-]
I'm not sure I'd like to live in a world where every child is a lab experiment. Even so, you'd also have to manipulate their genes to make every child gay because the vast majority of them will turn out straight.
User avatar #437 to #431 - brobathehutt (12/20/2013) [-]
You have a great point, but its also assuming that the world has somehow flip flopped and everyone turned gay, so perhaps babies would be born mostly gay.
User avatar #406 to #315 - playerdous (12/19/2013) [-]
Cloning doesn't work that way, When you clone someone you also clone their age, so a clone of a 20 year old has 20 fewer years to live. Even if we cloned at a young age the avg life expectancy would fall rapidly. This is what happened to those sheep clones.
#316 to #315 - coonseth (12/19/2013) [-]
Yeah that's totally how it should happen. Seems right to me. Don't do the things you're supposed to with the things you have.
User avatar #317 to #316 - brobathehutt (12/19/2013) [-]
Listen you homophobic ******* , I was explaining how a hypothetical homosexual society is in fact possible with today's technology. Read in context next time you illiterate **** .
User avatar #396 to #317 - lolzordz (12/19/2013) [-]
we know what you said, we just didnt like it. test tube babies, cloning and insemination and **** . a hypothetical homosexual society sounds terrifying
#304 - coonseth (12/19/2013) [-]
"If it was wrong to persecute the innocent in a ********* society then the reverse was wrong, too."
User avatar #310 to #304 - Shramin (12/19/2013) [-]
Are you comparing gays to killers?
User avatar #397 to #310 - lolzordz (12/19/2013) [-]
well theyre not birthers (if that was a word)
User avatar #297 - lordmoldywart (12/19/2013) [-]
No smart person would take their morals from Hugh Heffner
#405 to #297 - anonymous (12/19/2013) [-]
Are you saying you're a smart person, mister "lordmoldywart?"
User avatar #413 to #405 - lordmoldywart (12/19/2013) [-]
By smart person I'm referring to those who are able to count to 10 and tie their own shoelaces, you don't have to be too smart to know not to take morals from Heffner
#283 - anonymous (12/19/2013) [-]
Or maybe heterosexuality is essential to life and in an intolerant homosexual world life would be over after 1 generation...
User avatar #303 to #283 - hueyfreeman (12/19/2013) [-]
dude we don't need any more ******* people ok

like what, 1 tenth of society is gay, so 10% of people aren't reproducing.

We've still got like 3 ******* babies being born every time a person dies.
#306 to #303 - gigabowzer (12/19/2013) [-]
No isn't that we don't need more people, but we need less idiots in this world...

Once we colonize other planets overpopulation won't matter.
User avatar #263 - pokemonstheshiz ONLINE (12/19/2013) [-]
It makes sense that he's okay with gays
it just leaves more women for him
#247 - anonymous (12/19/2013) [-]
all good and fun, however a homosexual society wouldn't work. There'd be no society.
User avatar #281 to #247 - nimba (12/19/2013) [-]
Naomi Mitchison's novel 'solution three' explores this idea; the prole population are all homosexual and reproduction is carried out by cloning in response to overpopulation.
#233 - gaifgt (12/18/2013) [-]
I'm gay myself and if you think being gay is a choice, you are W R O N G!
How would you know if it's a choice or not if you're gay yourself?
Why would you even think that?
It's the 21st century, people.
User avatar #399 to #233 - reginleif (12/19/2013) [-]
Being gay may not be a choice, but what if we were to find out that it is a mutation?

If it is, then what would the FJ opinion be on ensuring that it never happens? In the long run it may just be better to assert homosexuality as a choice, since we can't control choices, but we can control traits.

Personally I think both outside environment and genetics can play a part. So if a gay "cure" is discovered then it won't be 100% effective.

User avatar #438 to #399 - rubric (12/24/2013) [-]
no **** sherlock, every damn thing that makes you diffirent from everyone else is a mutation, thats what mutations are, what you think that everyone looks diffirent for ***** and giggles?
User avatar #275 to #233 - shemaledong (12/19/2013) [-]
People are just afraid of their own gay feelings. I apologize for my fellow heteros.
#277 to #275 - gaifgt (12/19/2013) [-]
What is there to be afraid of? Be yourself!
It's better to be an original than a copy.
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User avatar #237 to #233 - shadowkingdr (12/19/2013) [-]
welllll im not against gay people or anything (i have an even worse trait in the eyes of the public) but according to Freud being gay is caused by a dysfunction that happened during the phallic stage of your life *shrug* but i don't care
User avatar #289 to #237 - thegrimgenius (12/19/2013) [-]
What is said trait?
User avatar #280 to #237 - nimba (12/19/2013) [-]
Freud's work, though pioneering and thoughtful, is largely disreputable by today's standards
User avatar #241 to #237 - TheHutchie (12/19/2013) [-]
"According to Freud" is just code for "sounds smart but actually ******** ".

The guy wanted to **** his mother, and his entire outlook on psychology was some mental attempt at justifying it.
User avatar #242 to #241 - shadowkingdr (12/19/2013) [-]
yeah so what he has a past everyone has a dark past if you can look past that they do great things even Hitler who was insane by today's standards did great things he took dinky little Germany which was then a rat-hole and almost took over the planet. Mandela was violent to a extreme yet the entire world morns his death. it is not our past that defines us but our achievements.
User avatar #243 to #242 - TheHutchie (12/19/2013) [-]
Everything you just said is irrelevant. All of it.

Freud didn't know what he was talking about. He was a psychologist who just made it up as he went along, and his psychology was ******** . He didn't do anything except lie, and you can't reasonably back up anything you ever say or do with "according to Freud".

I'm not expressing an opinion on Freud, and I'm not saying that he did anything right or wrong. I'm simply saying that anything Freud said about the human mind was only really about his own mind.
User avatar #246 to #243 - shadowkingdr (12/19/2013) [-]
and why do you say that?
User avatar #250 to #246 - TheHutchie (12/19/2013) [-]
Freud believed that all neuroses were born from feelings of sexual inadequacy, and if anybody disagreed with him, he just told them that it was because they too felt sexually inadequate.

Essentially, his entire scientific following was a bunch of guys going, "I can't disagree with Freud or people will think I have a small penis."

He just manipulated people with dogma.
User avatar #253 to #250 - shadowkingdr (12/19/2013) [-]
so your saying everything he has done is ******** ? where does this come from and before ou send me to some article make sure the doctor is reputable
User avatar #254 to #253 - TheHutchie (12/19/2013) [-]
So what exactly was your "worse trait in the eyes of the public"?
User avatar #255 to #254 - shadowkingdr (12/19/2013) [-]
I would rather not say
User avatar #256 to #255 - TheHutchie (12/19/2013) [-]
Yeah, well if you're opting out of explaining that, then I have no reason whatsoever to continue this pointless ********* over Freud.
User avatar #258 to #256 - shadowkingdr (12/19/2013) [-]
what exactly does my trait have to due with this argument besides trying to divert the conversation?
User avatar #259 to #258 - TheHutchie (12/19/2013) [-]
Oh, I don't know, but what do Hitler and Nelson ******* Mandela have to do with Freud talking ******** his whole goddamn life!?
User avatar #260 to #259 - shadowkingdr (12/19/2013) [-]
these people are famous figures in history and are completely impersonal and i was using them to say that a person should not be judged by there faults but by there achievements
User avatar #262 to #260 - TheHutchie (12/19/2013) [-]
And then I tried to explain that Freud's fault and his achievements are in fact, one and the same.

But you don't really seem to be reading what I type; in fact, you seem like one of those people who has a difficult time taking in anything outside of what's going on in your mind. Kind of like Freud, actually. It's like anything I say is lost in translation between your eyes and your brain, which I guess is also what happened during English class.
User avatar #261 to #260 - shadowkingdr (12/19/2013) [-]
on another note until you show me proof we are done here
User avatar #264 to #261 - TheHutchie (12/19/2013) [-]
Not everything we read is on the internet my friend. You want me to go through my book collection and scan you the ******* pages?
#265 to #264 - gaifgt (12/19/2013) [-]
I just want to make out with you right now, man.
User avatar #267 to #265 - TheHutchie (12/19/2013) [-]
I'll pass, but thanks for the offer.

I have nothing against homosexuality, and I'm sincerely sorry if I've given that impression.

I just saw that this guy's talking some serious amount of senseless dribble and had to intervene.
User avatar #272 to #267 - Nullifier (12/19/2013) [-]
As a hard determinist, Freud's philosophy on psychology makes a lot of sense to me; perhaps not to the degree of attribution you cited, but to a lesser level.
#230 - darkangeloffire ONLINE (12/18/2013) [-]
I can't be the only one who wants to read this story.

Pic semi-related
User avatar #238 to #230 - shadowkingdr (12/19/2013) [-]
wheres this from?
User avatar #239 to #238 - darkangeloffire ONLINE (12/19/2013) [-]
I think a gay furry comic. I forget where I saw it, perhaps the NSFW Furry board.
#268 to #239 - slenderwolf (12/19/2013) [-]
I believe you are correct, I have the same pic somewhere in the depths of my reaction folder.
I believe you are correct, I have the same pic somewhere in the depths of my reaction folder.
User avatar #248 to #239 - ugottanked (12/19/2013) [-]
name is cross-platform
User avatar #249 to #248 - darkangeloffire ONLINE (12/19/2013) [-]
Ah, there we go
User avatar #251 to #249 - ugottanked (12/19/2013) [-]
ever need a name to another comic like the one above just let me know
User avatar #252 to #251 - darkangeloffire ONLINE (12/19/2013) [-]
I'll make a note of it, thanks
User avatar #229 - lyiat ONLINE (12/18/2013) [-]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnOJgDW0gPI

Film about the exact same concept.
#212 - helenwheels (12/18/2013) [-]
But where does that happen?
But where does that happen?
#225 to #212 - anonymous (12/18/2013) [-]
Canada
User avatar #207 - traffy (12/18/2013) [-]
I always feared my mom will end up with him
#205 - anonymous (12/18/2013) [-]
Except it is happening now where you can't say anything against gays without being sued or being persecuted even its the truth. Its natural to not like gays because being gay isn't natural our entire purpose is to reproduce.

******** are faking it there is a reason they have literally have a 150% chance of breaking up no really look it up on their marriages . Women that choose to be ******* were often molested at a young age and the rest were too ugly or they flip flip between being gay.
That and women have biological imperative to reproduce with a man no matter how much carpet they munch things like ovulation make masculine features of a man extremely hot to women even those penis envy butch ******** .

Also the feminist a man hate group that FJ hates so much is run by guess what a bunch of ******** so much for gays being accepting ...

#323 to #205 - Mebeshe (12/19/2013) [-]
I have so many gifs it's hard to choose. I think I'll post them all.
I have so many gifs it's hard to choose. I think I'll post them all.
#389 to #323 - Mebeshe (12/19/2013) [-]
Tyrion Lannister hopped a universe to give you this special message.
Tyrion Lannister hopped a universe to give you this special message.
#388 to #323 - Mebeshe (12/19/2013) [-]
The timetraveler from the Revolution (who is a bit backward) can't fathom your level of stupidity.
The timetraveler from the Revolution (who is a bit backward) can't fathom your level of stupidity.
#387 to #323 - Mebeshe (12/19/2013) [-]
Even Kirk can't handle your 						********					.
Even Kirk can't handle your ******** .
#386 to #323 - Mebeshe (12/19/2013) [-]
The hunters are surprised at you. And they salt and burn corpses for a living.
The hunters are surprised at you. And they salt and burn corpses for a living.
#385 to #323 - Mebeshe (12/19/2013) [-]
In case you needed a picture to help you get my message.
#384 to #323 - Mebeshe (12/19/2013) [-]
Even King Thranduil is so done with you.
Even King Thranduil is so done with you.
#383 to #323 - Mebeshe (12/19/2013) [-]
Bringing back a classic, because it needs to be here.
Bringing back a classic, because it needs to be here.
#382 to #323 - Mebeshe (12/19/2013) [-]
Martin Freeman is sick of you.
Martin Freeman is sick of you.
#380 to #323 - Mebeshe (12/19/2013) [-]
Even Colbert and Stewart cannot believe what you just said.
Even Colbert and Stewart cannot believe what you just said.
#378 to #323 - Mebeshe (12/19/2013) [-]
< I second that motion.
< I second that motion.
#377 to #323 - Mebeshe (12/19/2013) [-]
Even the 10 year old hates you.
Even the 10 year old hates you.
#376 to #323 - Mebeshe (12/19/2013) [-]
Ron Weasley, who has a PHD in 						********					 Handling, is fed up with yours.
Ron Weasley, who has a PHD in ******** Handling, is fed up with yours.
#375 to #323 - Mebeshe (12/19/2013) [-]
Bron knows what's up.
Bron knows what's up.
#374 to #323 - Mebeshe (12/19/2013) [-]
Gordon Ramsey came all the way from England to tell you to 						****					 off.
Gordon Ramsey came all the way from England to tell you to **** off.
#373 to #323 - Mebeshe (12/19/2013) [-]
&lt; They can't even handle your 						********					 anon.
< They can't even handle your ******** anon.
#372 to #323 - Mebeshe (12/19/2013) [-]
And Rebel Wilson is telling you to go 						****					 yourself.
And Rebel Wilson is telling you to go **** yourself.
#371 to #323 - Mebeshe (12/19/2013) [-]
Anna Kendrick is tell you no.
Anna Kendrick is tell you no.
#370 to #323 - Mebeshe (12/19/2013) [-]
Oh look, you made Ariel cry.
Oh look, you made Ariel cry.
#361 to #323 - Mebeshe (12/19/2013) [-]
Choices
Choices
#360 to #323 - Mebeshe (12/19/2013) [-]
Your
Your
#359 to #323 - Mebeshe (12/19/2013) [-]
Rethink
Rethink
#358 to #323 - Mebeshe (12/19/2013) [-]
Should
Should
#357 to #323 - Mebeshe (12/19/2013) [-]
You
You
#356 to #323 - Mebeshe (12/19/2013) [-]
Think
Think
#355 to #323 - Mebeshe (12/19/2013) [-]
Really
Really
#354 to #323 - Mebeshe (12/19/2013) [-]
I
I
#353 to #323 - Mebeshe (12/19/2013) [-]
I'm not done yet.
I'm not done yet.
#282 to #205 - nimba (12/19/2013) [-]
Comment Picture
User avatar #273 to #205 - Nullifier (12/19/2013) [-]
i suppose you must be right, it's obviously 150%. and your citations are so accurate and reputable.
#198 - teachworth (12/18/2013) [-]
fags
User avatar #193 - stukka (12/18/2013) [-]
Mankind would not have made it to 1955 if that were the case though.
User avatar #240 to #193 - shadowkingdr (12/19/2013) [-]
people still want kids so there would be services that people would access to have a child somewhat like adoption, they would not like it but it is required
or a spermbank
User avatar #436 to #240 - spermbank (12/20/2013) [-]
I've never felt so needed <3
#180 - swedishassassin (12/18/2013) [-]
"A story about innocent people being persecuted in a world where ********* babies was the norm."

I'm not arguing that homosexuality is wrong by any means, but I don't like declaring geniuses when their logic can be dismantled.
User avatar #294 to #180 - thegrimgenius (12/19/2013) [-]
If ********* babies was the norm, it wouldn't be ****** , would it? Unless of course it was still against the law, which doesn't make much sense, since it's the norm.
User avatar #284 to #180 - nimba (12/19/2013) [-]
that's an interesting quote, mind explaining where it's from?
#245 to #180 - neoexdeath ONLINE (12/19/2013) [-]
If ********* babies was the norm, it wouldn't be half as fun, ignorant ****** .
User avatar #219 to #180 - swedishassassin (12/18/2013) [-]
ANNNNNNNNNND... people cannot understand English enough to know I wasn't comparing the two, only the logic....
User avatar #274 to #219 - Nullifier (12/19/2013) [-]
the issue is that the logic isn't applicable to your analogy. Sexuality resides solely in one's preferences and actions in private, while killing babies is ********** by any ethical approach.

as someone who loves to make analogies, and fails sometimes lots of times i think i'm qualified to say that
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#188 to #187 - bizzar ONLINE (12/18/2013) [-]
I do
I do
#175 - anonymous (12/18/2013) [-]
I think his coment is wrong
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