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#5 - BloodyTurds (10/11/2013) [-]
Absolutely love this show. Btw the entire 11 season box set (261 episodes on 32 disk) is only 32$ on ebay
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#15 to #10 - IamSofaKingdom (10/12/2013) [-]
I like supporting things I enjoy. People complain when their favorite shows go off the air or favorite bands break up or game companies go bankrupt but it doesn't stop them from pirating their stuff.   
   
Obligatory Kelly pic on Married with Children post.
I like supporting things I enjoy. People complain when their favorite shows go off the air or favorite bands break up or game companies go bankrupt but it doesn't stop them from pirating their stuff.

Obligatory Kelly pic on Married with Children post.
User avatar #16 to #15 - achimp (10/12/2013) [-]
You're absolutely right, but I don't have the money to waste$32 on a dvd set. It's just not smart.
I tell myself I'll end up buying everything I've pirated when I get more money, but I know for a fact that isn't true.

Not only that, but DVDs piss me the **** off. YOu have to go through ads, and loading screens, and selection screens - On the computer it's easy and fast.

Maybe that's why DVDs are dying - because it takes so ****** long to get to the actual content.
#17 to #16 - IamSofaKingdom (10/12/2013) [-]
No it's because people are like you, lazy and cheap. You gave the reason in your own response.
No it's because people are like you, lazy and cheap. You gave the reason in your own response.
User avatar #18 to #17 - achimp (10/12/2013) [-]
Yep. Lazy and cheap. And not willing to spend 32 dollars on 32 pieces of plastic and a box.

User avatar #19 to #18 - IamSofaKingdom (10/12/2013) [-]
The payment is for the set, actors, props, traveling expenses, make up artists, editors, etc, etc. On top of that is the cost of manufacturing and shipping the DVD product. Rationalize it anyway you want but none of it holds water. Instead of trying to make the product sound like less than it is, just accept that you steal things because you want them and don't like paying. You did in your first response and back peddled afterwards, for whatever reason.
User avatar #20 to #19 - achimp (10/12/2013) [-]
Yes, all of that stuff for a show that's been off the air for a number of years. Manufacturing plastic disc that costs about 12 cents, copying a file costs nothing.
DVDs are incredibly cheap and easy to make.

We'll get nowhere with this debate - If oyu want to talk about rationalization, rationalize your wasteful spending (of course, if you can throw money around, go for it) any way you'd like.


#21 to #20 - IamSofaKingdom (10/12/2013) [-]
I don't understand why you are still trying to justify theft. I didn't condemn you, I didn't threaten or attempt to dissuade you. I stated factually that it is theft and no amount of rationalizing changes that but you still try. I cannot logically understand it.
I don't understand why you are still trying to justify theft. I didn't condemn you, I didn't threaten or attempt to dissuade you. I stated factually that it is theft and no amount of rationalizing changes that but you still try. I cannot logically understand it.
#28 to #21 - bigrog (10/12/2013) [-]
because theres nothing wrong with it. The show isn't dependent on dvd sales. They are dependent on ratings (which is bullcrap it is a flawed system) They are only like 12 cent to make and there comes a point where its just as much the companies fault its getting pirated. Take universal. I had to pay over 100 dollars for an alfred hitchcok boxset. Those movies well over half a century old. Since then I have pirated most things they own the right I am a huge buster keaton fan but they want between 100-200 dollars or about 10 movies which are only about 45 minutes long and were made over 80 years ago. Universal has it coming. And thief is definitely harsh. If he wasn't going to buy it either way then they weren't going to get the money. And most importantly file sharing is not illegal. After you buy something its your property and yours to do as you wish which includes sharing it with some people over the internet.
User avatar #29 to #28 - IamSofaKingdom (10/12/2013) [-]
Again, I didn't condemn it. Your entire rant was unnecessary. It was also biased nonsense and a weak excuse of a justification.
#30 to #29 - bigrog (10/12/2013) [-]
still not illegal so how can it be thieving. And your full of **** . You condemned it like 5 post ago. I believe you used the words lazy and cheap.
User avatar #68 to #30 - IamSofaKingdom (10/13/2013) [-]
The person I was responding to explained his reasons for doing it, which were easily summarized in those two words. Which is why I stated that the reasons were likely the same that he already stated. Please read conversations carefully before you include yourself.

Also file sharing is a way of skirting the law intentionally. You are legally not entitled to licensed products that you have put no money towards and that is why internet companies will email you about excessive bandwidth used for pirating and you can be fined or imprisoned off of it.

Just because you circumvent a law with technicalities, does not change it from what it is; did you pay? was it a gift? no, did you get the product despite those facts? Theft, it is a pretty simple fact and you getting upset over me simply stating fact, enough to comment, is irrational and I refer back to my gif of Ron Swanson.
#69 to #68 - bigrog (10/13/2013) [-]
I did read the converstation and you where condemning it. At least have the balls to admit. And yes it was a gift. If someone has puchashed something such as a copy of the dvd or the file for it then it is his property and it is his to share with who he likes. I call that a gift. And to continue, theft is illegal, this is not, hence not theft
User avatar #70 to #69 - IamSofaKingdom (10/13/2013) [-]
When you gift something, you do not have a copy to yourself unless you bought two. Do you know what that crime is? If I took a CD in the 90s and burned a copy and gave it to a friend, I could be taken to court and given an absurd fine (some even over 100 grand). The internet just makes it easier for you and harder for law enforcement.

Also I did not condemn it or the person. I stated it for what it is, factually, which is theft. You perceive it that way because you don't like what I am saying. So you can cry wolf all you'd like, it is obvious there is nothing here to converse about.
#71 to #70 - bigrog (10/13/2013) [-]
No, im saying you condemn it becuase you kept using phrases like, "People complain when their favorite shows go off the air or favorite bands break up or game companies go bankrupt but it doesn't stop them from pirating their stuff," and "people are like you, lazy and cheap." That's not just condemnation but also petty ad hominem. And theft implies you took something from them. Nothing was taken. And i can't stress this enough. FILE SHARING IS NOT ILLEGAL
User avatar #72 to #71 - IamSofaKingdom (10/13/2013) [-]
Alright, in regards to your examples (this is why I said read carefully) the first example was me giving an example of why I support the things I like. There is nothing condemning about it, when you pirate something you circumvent paying for it and thus less money for the person who created it and it is very common on the internet now for people to complain about something like Beiber but they pirate from bands they actually like. That means he makes money off all those preteen girls buying his albums and your favorite bands don't. So nothing even close to condemning, I pointed out an aspect of society.

Second example I already explained, I don't know why you brought it up again but here I go. The man I was talking to explain why he pirated stuff, he basically said he was lazy and cheap and then tried to reason why others would pirate. That is when I said they pirate for the same reasons he does, they are lazy and cheap and I was still being factual. He gave those reasons himself and it is only logical that those are the common reasons. Why do you pirate things? because you don't want to pay for it, duh.

I am sorely depressed that you bothered using the "nothing was taken" argument because it has been shot all to hell all over the internet. If you were a car salesman and everyone just came and made copies of your cars for free and left, you'd go out of business. Just because they got a copy without taking yours does not mean it isn't theft or that it isn't hurting their business. In reality it is probably worse since in a normal circumstance they could only steal it once whereas here one copy can give it to an infinite number of people for free. I am not sure if you even thought of why it is called pirating (hint, it has something to do with plundering/stealing).

I cannot stress enough that there is no logical reason for you to try and justify this. You pirate because you want things but you don't want to pay. End of story.
#73 to #72 - bigrog (10/13/2013) [-]
first off **** you and your half ass not condemnig logic. I don't care how you want to word it there is no way that lazy and cheap is not condemning. Now look those trying to justify. You can sugar coat it all you want but it was nothing more than petty ad hominem becuase you condemn what he was doing. Second, just because they loose money doesn't mean its theft. Theres a ******** of ways companies can loose money but i don't hear people crying theft over them. As long as it is legal to share files then it is not theft. The day they pass laws that say file sharing is illegal then that discussion can be re opened. As of now, nothing was taken, you can not conclusively say that they lost money because the person might not have bought it anyways, and most importantly IT WAS ALL DONE PERFECTLY LEGALLY
User avatar #74 to #73 - IamSofaKingdom (10/13/2013) [-]
The fact that you completely rage over it means nothing except that something I said hit a nerve with you, sub conscience guilt maybe. Deny it all you want, I don't care. You responded to me unprovoked. If you can't handle my facts you are still free to leave anytime you wish. Thanks for wasting my time with your pointless,ranting rage.
#79 to #74 - bigrog (10/13/2013) [-]
Lets see, pointed out one simple spelling mistake, went on another huge tangent about a damn example that had no relavence, tried to turn it on me, insulted me, and claimed that I was repeating myself when you've said the same thing over and over with no real argument behind it and throwing in petty insult. Really not being subtle at all with the whole dodging the actual argument thing huh. I might openly be an insulting asshole but at least i back mine up with an actual argument instead of just pretending I'm right. And at least I have the balls to admit i am being an asshole instead of trying to justify my actions like a righteous prick. And when you start just declaring your argument "fact" with nothing to back it up and automatically declaring all other opinions wrong then I think **** you is very appropriate. And don't tell me how to argue. I actually did. All you did was say i was ranting and declare yourself the winner. And I didn't butt in on your conversation. I commented on a thread in a comment section. Thats kind of why the reply button is there. And i wouldn't be admitting to people that you play league of legends. Not
#76 to #74 - bigrog (10/13/2013) [-]
Also like to point out that your "fact" are nothing more than half ass opinion which you can't back up or you not having to balls to admit that you were being and asshole.
User avatar #78 to #76 - IamSofaKingdom (10/13/2013) [-]
I am being factual. You are attempting to add your own opinions to my words and you intervened on someone else's conversation to ultimately say " **** you". I am fairly confident that you are the only one "being and asshole", typo included.
#75 to #74 - bigrog (10/13/2013) [-]
Seems kind of silly that you think you can read emotions through a computer screen. No rage, just wanted to say **** you. I have a bit of a sailors mouth on me. Though if you want to keep playing Freud then fine with me. Though remember what he said, Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Sometimes **** you just means **** you. Second also cant help but notice that all you had was some pseudo psychology and no actual response you my argument. Seems to me you don't have a leg to stand of argument wise. And finally Its the weekend, Im off work, I don't start collage til January, my friends all work weekends, and I'm to broke to go to oktoberfest this year. What better do I have to do with my spare time then waste yours.
User avatar #77 to #75 - IamSofaKingdom (10/13/2013) [-]
No one mentioned Freud. Who cares about a man who has had nearly every theory debunked? Funny that you said I gave no response to your "argument". You didn't give an argument, you decided to say " **** you" and simply say that the things I said were wrong. I am simply done entertaining your ramblings. You are in denial over your actions and that is fine, doesn't effect me at all (economically, at least on a personal scale or physically).

I have been responding in between games of League of Legends but I think it is time for bed. Thanks for repeating "its not theft" over and over. It really got me thinking over my philosophies of life. Try being a little more calm in your discussions and using a little more than opinion to justify it, it'll help your argument, provided you were arguing something with a semblance of reason.
User avatar #22 to #21 - achimp (10/12/2013) [-]
Then cheers, mate. Have a good life.
User avatar #23 to #22 - IamSofaKingdom (10/12/2013) [-]
A nice sentiment but life is going to suck somewhere. I just hope the good parts are worth it.
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