titanic. if you laughed, why not friend me?. Anytime you' re afraid to try seine new shit... remember, amateurs built the ark, professionals built the Titanic.  tits youtube
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User avatar #15 - shadowsynergy
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Except the ark didn't exist, it's a story. A good story with a message, but a story none the less.
User avatar #21 to #15 - entarasu
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the movie noah
watch it you will understand
User avatar #24 to #21 - autoflame
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Yes, a Hollywood movie is proof for the Ark. Just like Hogwarts is real, and the concept of Inception.
User avatar #26 to #21 - entarasu
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wait sorry didnt meant to reply to you
you didnt asked me the message of the ark
User avatar #23 to #15 - dreaddune
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Ahahaha, are you trying to say that Hollywood have made a movie about the ark with Russel Crowe as the main character, even if there wasn't real evidence that the ark is a real story!?
User avatar #88 to #23 - mondominiman
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No, it was Evan Almighty
User avatar #41 to #15 - shadowkingdr
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eh well prove to disprove and all that blarny. too long ago
#49 to #15 - anon id: 19ea4d13
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OR MAYBE IT WAS ALL A JOKE !
and you lost the point too
#55 to #49 - anon id: a491ce26
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it's drake! This isn't a joke, it's him pleasing his stupid fans with stupid ****
#57 to #15 - anon id: b8987558
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The ark is a very common story across many mythologies. Early cities were built along rivers and when it would rain and the rivers would flood it would also wipe out many houses along the riverside. It's no surprise that it was adopted as a higher power cleansing the area with a great flood.
User avatar #79 to #15 - yuukoku
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It existed. Highly doubt that there were actually two of every animal on that ship and the flood definitely didn't drown out the entire world, but it existed.
#44 to #15 - baditch
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Remains of the Ark have been found in Turkey. The wood is petrified. People don't give the bible enough historical credit. A lot of it is archaeologically sound. Unfortunately the Turkish government is very protective of the ark.
Remains of the Ark have been found in Turkey. The wood is petrified. People don't give the bible enough historical credit. A lot of it is archaeologically sound. Unfortunately the Turkish government is very protective of the ark.
User avatar #110 to #44 - fishandkids
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Is that the same piece of wood that was proven to just have been stemed until it looked like it came from the period of this story? Another thing. It's a piece of wood, not the ark. The ark would have to be billions of miles long to fit all the animals. Every salt water animal would have died in fresh water. this means he would have had to get 2 blue whales, enough salt water to keep them alive, enough plankton to feed them and they would have to be adults as they are mammals.
#171 to #110 - anon id: c0014f5a
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billions of miles? Really? Cause the earth's circumference is a little more than 24,000 miles, and its surface area is about 200 million square miles, and it seems to fit hundreds of thousands of every kind of animal just fine. Don't throw ******** numbers around when you have no idea what you are talking about.
User avatar #157 to #110 - commontroll
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Petrified means it's rock. It's wood that became stone. Not to mention it's not just a few pieces of petrified wood. It's the right shape and dimensions for a ship, they discovered rivets and other metal pieces for holding a boat together as well.
User avatar #108 to #44 - hydraetis
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Buuut how do we know that wood is undoubtedly from the Ark?
#116 to #15 - anon id: 0c677f55
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Good story with a message? You mean that genocide solves everything? Such a lovely message, I agree.
User avatar #135 to #15 - oceanfrank
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It existed. It may have been overexaggerated but it still existed.
#152 to #15 - anon id: 62f392e6
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way to start a *********
#160 to #15 - fedoraexplain
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Also, Drake is a rapper.
#214 to #15 - anon id: ae4c23bf
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There are stories world wide, literally hundreds of them (probably over a 1000) about a flood covering the earth. Many of those stories, when compared to the biblical account of the flood, seem silly and imaginary.
In some of those stories, the guy who built the ark also had the name Noah, in some of the stories there were also 8 people in the ark, just like the bible said.

Whether you believe it or not, just know that when you say that such a thing never happened and that it is just a good story, remember that you're dismissing HUNDREDS of stories from many different peoples throughout the world.
User avatar #172 to #45 - clannadqs
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>not peer reviewed
>"scientist" thrown in for better article
>comparing wooden ships to modern ships
>Not taking into account millions of insects

0/10, would not read again.
User avatar #18 to #15 - revanmal
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What exactly is the message of Noah's Ark?
User avatar #19 to #18 - xplosevdiarrhea
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Don't **** with God or he'll kill everyone and everything. Except for two of each thing. And you probably aren't one of them.
User avatar #20 to #19 - envinite
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And the chosen had shecks

SHECKS
#40 to #18 - velocidex
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and did Noah also use his fight money to buy 2 of every animal on earth and them beat the crap out of every single one of them?
#196 to #15 - niggernazi
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think you dropped this, and why dont you shve a banana up your ass like all the other atheists?
User avatar #102 to #15 - welliguessitsaname
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and Noah was a professional shipbuilder anyways, wasn't he?
User avatar #22 to #15 - jnovuse
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99.9% sure it did exist. news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/04/100428-noahs-ark-found-in-turkey-science-religion-culture/ maybe, maybe not, only Noah, his family, and God truly knows.
User avatar #25 to #22 - drzix
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To say you believe in Noahs ark, is to say you believe that a man built an enormous wooden ship to carry 2 of every animal, while everything else on earth drown. I can't remember the name of the video i watched, but it basically said that a wooden ship of that size would break apart in the waves, because the largest wooden ship ever built was smaller than the Ark apparently was, and did just that
User avatar #27 to #25 - jnovuse
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Hmm.. to unveil or not to unveil my personal beliefs.. I choose no.
But I am sure the ark could have existed.
It is plausible a man built a boat and had some local animals on it to escape a flood, and it's very plausible a story like that could grow and grow over time into a fantastic and mind boggling action where the fate of the entire world hung in the balance.
So I think it is very likely some form of the ark did exist, but also more than likely not as it was written word for word.
User avatar #28 to #27 - drzix
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Don't want to insult your beliefs or anything, it's just my opinion. I mean, if you believe in God then the ark could be entirely possibly as God can do anything he ******* wants to because he's God
User avatar #31 to #28 - amata
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I was gonna try and find the *****************************.jpg, but then I read this comment. +1 for tolerance
User avatar #107 to #28 - fishandkids
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Then why not just snap his finger and snap the evil away instead of killing millions of babies? Same as Adam and Eve. If he is all knowing and all powerfull he would know that Adam and Eve would not listen to him (ignoring the fact that making someone who does not know right or wrong and then punishing that person for doing something wrong is so stupid, no god could have done that) before he created them and would be able to change them in a way that they would listen to him.

PS: Don't give me the free will BS. An all powerfull and all knowing god that creates everything can NOT grant free will as he allready knows what will happen no matter how he creates them.
User avatar #133 to #107 - oceanfrank
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Well that's what makes him all powerful isn't it? Creating free will AND knowing what's going to happen next. You're trying to apply human and phenomenal logic to something superhuman and nominal, so superhuman and nominal that we can't even begin to comprehend such a being. It's not possible to use our logic to explain him unless we find his "world" and figure out the logic in that world and even then he's all powerful and maybe logic doesn't work for him. Bro WE DO NOT KNOW and humankind will probably never know if a God/god(s) exists, we just aren't capable of that yet and if we do ever become capable then I'm pretty sure that being won't let us live it down.
User avatar #139 to #133 - fishandkids
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That still does not explain why he could not just snapp his own **** up away instead of killion millions of babies.
User avatar #238 to #139 - oceanfrank
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that's for him to know and us to find out apparently. Like I said, we can't apply our logic to his.
User avatar #158 to #27 - turtletroll
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But the whole story is that the Ark held every species of animals in the world. But we know that is impossible for one person to build in a lifetime aswell as it's impossible to build a boat that big without it sinking or as somebody else said if it's wood it WILL break against the waves.

And lets not forget how you could get the animals on the boat and keep them fed and stop the predators from killing the other animals.
User avatar #164 to #27 - deliciousdee
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Also the story of the ark/deluge is in almost every major ancient culture. If they ALL have a version of the story, something had to have happened.
User avatar #169 to #164 - clannadqs
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Nope, not at all. News flash, the Egyptians were around before the flood and they were around after the flood. Sorry to break it to you.
User avatar #170 to #169 - deliciousdee
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The Greeks have a deluge story. The Native Americans have a deluge story. The Macedonians have a deluge story.

There are a ******** of ancient cultures that have deluge stories, and they are all very similar.
User avatar #175 to #170 - clannadqs
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News flash, floods happen in nearly every country that isn't a desert. Also, let's say a flood did happen that covered a large portion of the earth (which thousands of scientists disagree with), what is so hard about making a fake story fit a real event? What would you do if you were trying to convince people of what you're writing is true? That's right, you would include historical context. They've already disproven the ark hundreds of times with genetics alone. **** off with your uneducated ********. I went to a private christian school my entire life and learned college level theology, apologetics, and philosophy.
#176 to #175 - deliciousdee
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Wow, you are one butt hurt atheist cunt.

The stories I'm referring to also include references to the building and use of some form of large wooden ship. I'm not saying there was or wasn't an ark, I'm just saying its interesting that a lot of ancient cultures have similar stories.

Get the stick out of your ass.
User avatar #179 to #176 - clannadqs
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I never stated what worldview I hold. I love how you automatically assume I'm an atheist due to the fact that I used simple logic to disprove something like that happening. Hell, here is the bible verse itself since it is quite clear you haven't even read it yourself and just spout out ******** that you think fits whatever debate you are partaking in. “Now the sons of Noah who went out of the ark were Shem, Ham, and Japheth… These three were the sons of Noah, and from these the whole earth was populated.” Gen 9:18 - 19. Wow, doesn't sound too metaphorical there. That verse alone throws out other cultures surviving.
#183 to #179 - deliciousdee
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K then, keep being a rude, arrogant dickweed to every random person you meet. I'm sure it'll come off well eventually.
K then, keep being a rude, arrogant dickweed to every random person you meet. I'm sure it'll come off well eventually.
User avatar #181 to #175 - jnovuse
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But not the ability to be open minded, or the ability to let others believe what they choose even if you feel they are incorrect, or the ability to not come to anger quickly. Just let it go, no amount of evidence will disprove someones faith if they choose to keep it.
User avatar #186 to #181 - clannadqs
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Are you serious? I was a christian until the age of 18. I studied under a colleague of Dr. William Lane Craig himself. I would be shocked if you even knew who that is. You honestly believe you are more open minded than a person who based their entire life around Christianity and whose family spent over one hundred thousand dollars for high school for that environment and education and then did research on their own time and found flaws with what I had been taught and did even more research in regards to biology? I can almost guarantee that you were born a christian and you still are a christian. Have you read any books on genetics, evolution, cosmology? I can tell you I have read hundreds of articles covering apologetics and theology during my high school days, can you say the same? It's sad because I know for a fact I have done more research than you on your own religion.
User avatar #188 to #186 - jnovuse
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clannadqs, who are you trying to impress? Do you feel your hard work is threatened? Let it go brother. I am glad you have studied immensely, and your knowledge of religion is probably outstanding and unmatched. Ok? You don't need to prove anything here.
User avatar #191 to #188 - clannadqs
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>calls someone closed minded
>gets called out
> avoids entire point of post by saying," let it go". Then goes on to use sarcasm.

Nice, man.
User avatar #192 to #191 - jnovuse
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How far are you going to take this? Does it really upset you that much that I said the story of the Ark and Noah as written in the Bible could possibly be not 100% correct as written?
User avatar #193 to #192 - clannadqs
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Considering the majority of translations came from the church itself and scholars of their time, I do not believe a story that should be believed and even has a verse in revelation that said changing or adding scripture to the book was an automatic hell sentence, I don't believe it. I believe that is absolutely what was written save for a few grammatical differences a few minor slip ups. I do not believe a story went from " a local flood happened" to, " god killed everyone except for Noah's family and they repopulated the earth".
User avatar #195 to #193 - jnovuse
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Ok. And I support your belief, and I said I would accept what occurred either way.
User avatar #101 to #27 - christmouth
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Then that wouldn't make it the arc in the bible, but just some boat a man built and had some animals in. It also takes away the point of the story, which is that all mankind, except for Noah's family, had turned their back on God and He then punished them for it.
User avatar #123 to #101 - jnovuse
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The tale had a much deeper point than the rage of God. But I really don't want to discuss this further, I am sorry brother.
User avatar #168 to #27 - clannadqs
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So, now you're just saying that god wasn't powerful enough to tell a story correctly.
User avatar #174 to #168 - jnovuse
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Not at all.
User avatar #177 to #174 - clannadqs
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So, why is it that every new discovery in regards to science is closing the grip tighter and tighter around your religion? It's pretty convenient to sit there and claim the stories are not literal and contain a few errors due to humans writing it. I don't consider "a global flood killing everything" opposed to " a local flood that killed a few thousand a small error. It's funny how one hundred years ago everyone took the the text in the bible literally and now over half of it is thrown out as metaphors simply to fit with what is factual.
User avatar #178 to #177 - jnovuse
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Convenient, and true. Thousand of years, hundreds of translation, not to mention the most widely used version HAD information removed from it or changed/reworded/grammar fixed to suit the times. I never said it wasn't true, and I never said God had limited power, my only point was that the idea of the Ark is very plausible, and would not surprise me if proven true to either biblical wording or modified understanding.
User avatar #180 to #178 - clannadqs
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIlWKp44T50

No, it could have never happened. I'm beginning to be butthurt right now because there are millions of people like you that have access to an almost infinite amount of knowledge and you use none of it. Instead you just make up your own argument and spout out false info even in regards to what you're arguing.
User avatar #184 to #180 - jnovuse
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You are telling me there is an impossibility for people to incorrectly translate or change a book that is thousands of years old? You know that is possible. You also know that the story of the Ark as written in the bible could very well be a localized story that was expounded and changed over time to sound more amazing.
User avatar #190 to #184 - clannadqs
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Considering that the base for the credibility of the bible from Christians is the fact that an infallible, omniscient, and omnipotent being gave his "breath" and guided the scripture writing, I would say it is next to impossible for a story to verge off that drastically. Unless you're implying that he just abandoned us and didn't even protect his own story. I don't even know why I'm debating with you people anymore. Every argument from Christians rely on a huge cop-out. The entire basis for your argument right now is a cop-out. The entire basis for arguing the credibility of the bible is a cop-out. The entire basis of the argument for god being infinite relies on a cop-out. Keep thumbing me down as if that'll prove a point.
User avatar #194 to #190 - jnovuse
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God is not infallible, he is subject to emotions, such as jelousy and anger, as evidenced in the scriptures. He also changes his mind to suit his needs, multiple wives, no multiple wives, stoning people for sins, forgiving people for sins. He is God, he can do whatever he wants, as long as it is within the rules he created for himself, and the very first rule? We have free will to do as we please. If the good book was perfectly protected, than there would be only ONE version, but there are hundreds if not thousands. Man has always perverted God's ways, even the most righteous have fallen. Just breathe, and know that as humans, we can change and mess up meanings and stories as we see fit. None of this removes power from God, it only makes him more powerful and also humble, because he allows us to have that free will, when he could force his will upon us.
User avatar #201 to #194 - clannadqs
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Saying god is not infallible goes against everything top tier theologians and apologists say. "God" was overcome by emotions when in the physical form of a man known as Jesus. biblehub.com/psalms/18-30.htm goes against everything you are saying. It is impossible for one way to be perfect and years after that way is changed because another way fits better. You just contradicted yourself terribly and it is the first time I have seen someone twist up an atheist's argument so terribly and use it for themselves. Also, using the same logic as you are I can sit here and say that since there is no evidence for an omniscient/omnipotent being then the scriptures must have been so perverted by mankind that the original story was just an extraterrestrial being giving advice to early human civilization. See how easy that was to make up and use for my own argument? I also love what is coming next when you state that what I said is ludicrous compared to an impossibly powerful and complex being running the show.
User avatar #204 to #201 - jnovuse
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Top Tier Theologians and Apologists have no 100% concrete evidence to support their theories, which is why religion is faith based. If God was proven 100% to be true as written in the bible, then we would all perish, because we had a perfect knowledge, and STILL messed up and sinned. Having it a faith system allows us to be forgiven, because no one can prove that they truly know he is or is not there.

And actually I was going to say I don't believe in the "Holy Trinity", but that they are one in purpose, just not the same being.

I also did not contradict myself, are you limiting God to only unchanging perfection?

Also, you CAN say that the scriptures were written by extra terrestrials, there is no concrete evidence disproving that. The same could be said about God. There is no definitive answer, which is why religion is faith based, and also why there are so many varying theories and ideas as to how it all came about and what is true or not.

Honestly, I don't even know what you are trying to prove or do. I have told you I would accept whatever was shown to be truth once a perfect knowledge is obtained.
User avatar #206 to #204 - clannadqs
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I gave you a video disproving multiple scriptures in regards to the flood. The only rebuttal you had was that the scriptures could be flawed, which is a cop-out that Christians developed when we developed a greater understanding of our reality. Also, perfection does not change.
User avatar #111 to #25 - muertealosafricano
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It wasn't 2 of every single animal actually.
It was 2 of every animal in that region, the Mesopotamian region.
And the flood only covered that area of the world.
I'm a Biblical scholar and records from the time suggest this is what happened rather than the entire earth being flooded and animals coming from Antarctica.
User avatar #53 to #25 - lolzordz
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the story may have been exaggerated. You know how stories get over time. But he probably did get two of every animal in his land and there probably was a flood
#215 to #25 - anon id: ae4c23bf
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Really? I heard the exact opposite, about how the measurements would make a near perfect ship, according to people who actually knew stuff about ships.
User avatar #148 to #25 - zoologyexplain
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But God's will held the ark together, duh.
User avatar #59 to #25 - catpisseverdeen
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The way I see it, literally, everything in that book existed within a 10 mile span of the one who was writing it, so maybe "2 of every animal" pertained to the animals that they knew existed.
User avatar #104 to #25 - christmouth
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"I can't remember the name of the video i watched"

I believe you saw the point being used by Bill Nye in the debate with Ken Ham.
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#8 - friedgreenpomatoes
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The Titanic did do that.

Which is why it sank.
#9 to #8 - anon id: f24012eb
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what he meant was, if the titanic had avoided the iceberg(like the arrow avoided the red dot) then it wouldn't have sank.
User avatar #51 to #9 - fistymcbeefpunch
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If the Titanic had rammed the iceberg it would have punctured the front compartments but ultimately survived. By trying to avoid it, scraped it's side along the iceberg, puncturing more compartments causing it to sink.
#56 to #51 - faroeseguy
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I've heard, that for some reason, the compartments weren't closed up properly, so the water spread to the compartments.
#60 to #56 - fistymcbeefpunch
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I don't know about that, but what I heard happened is as the ship sunk the water spilled over the top of the compartments.
User avatar #163 to #8 - ryuuk
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no one has asked yet, but i gotta know. why the cassowary?
#187 to #8 - spetsnazvymple
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soooo, whats the point of the cassowary?
User avatar #86 to #8 - brenton
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Have you gotten your dick sucked by darkangeloffire yet? For Jesus?
User avatar #87 to #86 - darkangeloffire
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Someone want their dick sucked 4 Jesus?
User avatar #42 - tehpoonages
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people are hating on this just because drake said it, thats so shallow. if someone like einsteins said it all of you faggots would be cheering and sucking his dick.
#47 to #42 - anon id: 91c8c7a1
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I don't care if drake said it or Albert ******* Einstein, the point is its stupid as ******* hell. Even if we are going on the assumption that Noah was an amateur he had divine help. And THATS EVEN ASSUMING YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
#36 - cotterj
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CORRECTION: G-d built the ark, IRISHMEN built the Titanic...
CORRECTION: G-d built the ark, IRISHMEN built the Titanic...
#213 to #36 - anon id: c0f049e9
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NORTHERN Irishmen, who are basically British.
#54 to #36 - ragingflamingos
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What happened to your "o"?
#62 to #54 - anonymoose
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Dammit Jafar, you can't just ask people what happened to their "o"
Dammit Jafar, you can't just ask people what happened to their "o"
User avatar #74 to #54 - atrocitustheking
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It's a Jewish custom. The idea that the name of the Almighty is so holy, that it shouldn't be fully written by human hands.
User avatar #89 to #74 - ragingflamingos
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Well TIL. Thanks.
User avatar #80 to #74 - dyllygaf
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I thought that was Yahweh or whatever that they could say or write
User avatar #81 to #80 - atrocitustheking
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Technically it's YHWH (as Hebrew is an abjad, not an alphabet). Though I think that one is very off limits.
User avatar #82 to #81 - dyllygaf
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Ahhh, yeah didn't they say it was the true name of god in Indiana Jones?
User avatar #92 to #82 - atrocitustheking
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The one they used in Indiana Jones was "Jehova".
User avatar #93 to #92 - dyllygaf
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ohh okay, I haven't seen it in years haha thanks for the info
User avatar #95 to #93 - atrocitustheking
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You're welcome. Happy to help with random trivia like this.
#91 - zeedeveel
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Well, the Titanic existed.
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#112 to #109 - zeedeveel
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I actually find it funny because people seem to view Atheists the same way I view bronies. I don't know if the two commonly fall hand in hand or what.
User avatar #113 to #112 - muertealosafricano
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You view Bronys as people who don't believe in God?
#114 to #113 - zeedeveel
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No, as trilby wearing forever alone dickbags. Most atheists I know are of an older crowd but then we're not just internet warriors. We're an actual non-profit and a public activist group.
#115 to #114 - muertealosafricano
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Sort of like Catholicism.
#117 to #115 - zeedeveel
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Not at all, I live in a rural area where businesses feel it's okay to ignore civil liberties and offer specials only to Christians and teach religion in public school. We simply combat that sort of thing because most of the people in our group (Myself included) have children and don't want our children lied to and misinformed.
User avatar #197 to #117 - goldenglimmer
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If you are in the States, then what you're describing is in direct violation of basic civil liberties written in the constitution itself... in the First Amendment. This really only applies to State institutions and legislature, but there are laws based on the principles of the First Amendment passed later that prevent businesses from prioritizing based on one's religious affiliation. There are exceptions though, like if the business is a Christian institution doing Christian work, then "being Christian" actually has a practical impact. Other than that, it's not legal what they're doing.

I don't know what you're so worked up about regarding schools "teaching religion" (in my opinion, you're just as closed-minded for trying to "shield" your children from it, being that it's a huge part of human history whether you like it or not), but regarding businesses, then as I said, that's simple discrimination.
#199 to #197 - zeedeveel
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It's more the fact that the schools here refuse to teach evolution. The text book from a group member's daughter's class was from 1987 because all of the recent ones taught evolution. They can certainly teach about religion but they can't tell the children, "God created the earth and then Adam and Eve."
User avatar #200 to #199 - goldenglimmer
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No, of course they can't. I'm pretty sure that's illegal as well, because there's a basic curriculum that all schools in the United States have to cover over the course of a students attendance. I'm nearly 100 % sure that evolution is encompassed by this curriculum.

If your children are attending a school that imposes religious dogma and refuses to teach empirical science, then I would withdraw them immediately.

This is coming from a Catholic.
#202 to #200 - zeedeveel
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She's since moved her children to another district that requires a half hour drive. This is a great inconvenience and the school is claiming that they can't afford new books. This, mind you, is a very wealthy district that just built the stadium equivalent of Thunderdome for a team that wins maybe one game a season.
User avatar #203 to #202 - goldenglimmer
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Who is "she"? Your ex-wife?

To put it bluntly, that's outrageous. You should demand to see their yearly budget, that's within your rights. Also, it doesn't matter if they "can't afford new books", they're still not meeting state requirements (I think... I hope). They'll have to download material of the internet and incorporate it into their current curriculum.
#205 to #203 - zeedeveel
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Ah, I apologize, that was another conversation in this thread. It's another member of our local non-profit that happens to be an Atheist Alliance.

I will take your advice in requesting the opportunity to view their budget though.
User avatar #118 to #117 - muertealosafricano
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Oh so you know how I feel when I'm forced to provide my fathers employees with contraceptives even though it's against my religious beliefs?
#120 to #118 - zeedeveel
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No, this is actually illegal and grounds for civil liberty suits. We're actively in court with two different organizations for their bias for the religious. Religious people feel they deserve special treatments. Everyone else just doesn't want religious **** forced down their throat.
User avatar #122 to #120 - muertealosafricano
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Yes, you don't want your children taught religion in school, I understand that.
How is that any different than atheists teaching children that god's not real?
I don't want that forced down my children's throats. And as a matter of fact I offer a free room to any Father or Sister that comes to one of my motels. I'm providing them specials, do you want to sue me over that?
#124 to #122 - zeedeveel
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If you advertise that you will offer a free room strictly to any religious individual then that is in fact a civil liberties case and I hope someone does address that with you at some point because it is highly illegal.

No one's teaching anyone that God isn't there except in that joke of a movie God's Not Dead. People are just teaching the facts and yes, people are getting more intelligent and realizing, "Hey, these scientific facts don't align with what the bible teach me. Maybe I should question it." The difference in your indoctrination and the one you fear we are making is that ours is unbiased and requires no speculation.
User avatar #134 to #124 - muertealosafricano
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Are you trying to deny that teachers are saying God isn't real? Because they do, look it up. It also doesn't matter that I offer a priest a free night, if you want to take it up with a lawyer go ahead.

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And nothing in the bible conflicts with science, if you actually understood and interpreted it you would see that, however you probably believe that Christians actually believe God created the world in 7 days and creationism or all those other things which aren't Catholic dogma. But sure, tell me what I have witnessed first hand is wrong, you're not imposing your views or anything.
#137 to #134 - zeedeveel
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Yes, Christians don't believe that. Except Christian fundamentalists which is a huge portion of Christians that fully believe in the creation story, Adam and Eve and all that jazz. If you don't believe it, that's your choice to not adhere to your holy book in that regard but several Christians do. You're not offering a free room to patrons just for being Christian which is the issue here. You're offering an individual a room as a personal favor. The fact that it does pertain to religion is highly irrelevant.


Sure, there have been a couple of outlandish teachers who opted to outright say that God does not exist and that's rude of them as there is no scientific evidence. There's also no scientific evidence that there's not an invisible gerbil floating four meters above my head that can be passed through with great ease but at that point it becomes a burden of proof debate and Christians always hate that one.


I've read the bible and several other holy books. My minor in college was theology and by the end of it all I was pretty well teaching the class because I was the only one who's entire debate wasn't, "Hurrdurr Jesus."


I am interested in your personal experience that brought you closer to God though, these psychosomatic events always give me a good chuckle.
User avatar #147 to #137 - acemcgunner
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as a Christian the old testament isn't for today anyway.. the new testament is..
User avatar #221 to #147 - popeflatus
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Actually, Jesus in the bible says that he has come to not abolish the law, but uphold it. Christians often say this, but its like a 'get out of jail free card' to ignore the horrors of the Old Testament.
User avatar #235 to #221 - acemcgunner
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but Christians now...like me, believe in the new testament, so it doesn't really matter what the old one said, plus the up said the new testament meets the modern world of today..
but, you don't have to agree cause you can believe what you want I don't care cause in America that's a god given right..
User avatar #236 to #235 - popeflatus
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You can believe whatever you like, but as I said, Jesus believed in the Old Testament so you can't just cherry pick the parts you like and the parts you don't. If you study the history of the bible and how scientifically flawed it is (not to mention how immoral and demeaning it is) you will cast it side and start to live life as a rational human being.
User avatar #237 to #236 - acemcgunner
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actually NO. short summary: Jesus coming to die for our sins; saves the day.. boom! be good, and do good and believe in Jesus: boom! heaven and awesome after life..
User avatar #143 to #137 - muertealosafricano
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Firstly you should provide these statistics stating that a good portion of Christians are fundamentalist.
Secondly when you say "a couple" that implies you know that there are very few Teachers saying god doesn't exist, but I'd like to know where you figured out an estimate of how many. It's also irrelevant how many teachers do this, it irks me that it happens in my neighborhood.
Third, what college did you go to? Because I'm taking some courses at Dartmouth College and we had some extremely intelligent debate regarding religion and theology.

Lastly what brought me closest to god was reading The Summa Theologiae, as well as Fides et Ratio. They really deepened my understanding of the way people surrender their thoughts to something they cannot fully understand be it God or what caused the Big Bang or what gave the first organism life. But in conclusion to quote Thomas Acquinas, “To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible.” or in other words, you wouldn't care.
#149 to #143 - zeedeveel
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Certainly not as prestigious a university as travelling outside of the state of Texas for College requires a ******** extra tuition charge which sucks considering I was given rather outlandish scholarships only to go to a mid-tier 5A College. I attended several lectures when I was up North at Dartmouth and do envy you for having the opportunity. Texas schools are just **** if you're not a sports fan and I ended up going to a Christian university as it offered the best computer and applied science courses in the state.


I will pick up an ebook of Fides et Ratio (Actually in queue already) but comparing God to the Big Bang is a bit comical. All I'm saying is, if you want to teach your religion in schools, you have your own schools for that. Pushing faith on another person is wrong. Present ideas, let people think for themselves and ultimately just take everything into consideration.

As far as my statement on several Christians being fundamentalists, I only ask you to take a trip to the bible belt of the U.S. It becomes readily apparent.
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Well, you never told me where you went to school, or where you got your information about the percentage of fundamentalists.
I don't think you understood my comparisons though, I said "something they cannot fully understand be it God or what caused the Big Bang." People don't fully understand God or the Big Bang, what is comical about that?
Nonetheless it's late and I'm going to bed, but let me know what you think of Fides et Ratio.
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According to a 2006 Gallup Poll:

27% of Americans believe religion should have more influence in America.

28% of Americans think the Bible is the actual word of God.

31% of Americans have a favorable view of Christian Fundamentalist religions.


User avatar #185 to #143 - lyiat
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In America, they are. I'm not arguing one way or another, but if you just take a look at the US census, you'll see the breakdown of religions in this country.

73% of all Americans are Christian. The Association of Religion Data Archives (ARDA) counts 26,344,933 members of mainline churches versus 39,930,869 members of evangelical Protestant churches. Evangelical is, virtually, synonymous with the word 'fundamentalist', though scholars still debate over the topic. Then you also have the Mormons, another fundamentalist group, counting for another 6.3 million souls, and whatever sect of Roman Catholics, of which I know quite a few personally, that are still fundamentalist.
User avatar #98 to #91 - slenderwolf
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For the sake of the joke could you just humor us?
#99 to #98 - zeedeveel
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I thought the fact that this was written by a half-retarded rapper was the joke.
User avatar #100 to #99 - slenderwolf
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Well, for a half-retarded black guy, he seems to be doing pretty well.
#103 to #100 - zeedeveel
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Meet every highly profitable market in the U.S.

NFL, NBA, rap music, pop music, etc.
User avatar #198 to #91 - niggernazi
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*tips fedora
User avatar #105 to #91 - lazaman
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Good point.
#32 - youborn
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**youborn rolled image** Mfw I'm on a BOAT
**youborn rolled image** Mfw I'm on a BOAT
#30 - include
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#130 - mitchellhw
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Didn't they find the ark? O.o
#161 to #130 - anon id: 016b6859
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Taking the story of Noah and the ark litterally is like reading Red riding hood as a historical fact.

In other words is pretty ******* stupid.

User avatar #141 to #130 - acemcgunner
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yes
#150 to #130 - iamstoopid
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i dont get it, they said they found noahs ark?
User avatar #159 to #130 - turtletroll
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Don't believe in the propaganda ********.

The story of the ark is totally impossible.
User avatar #136 to #130 - octopusafrican
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That's some of the worst evidence I've ever seen in my life.
User avatar #189 to #136 - mitchellhw
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Well they found the sides of it were made of a few thousand year old wood, as well as a full boat frame and animal remains
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It's rock.
#138 to #130 - maxsexington
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the ark isn't real
User avatar #144 to #130 - corso
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They've "found" it like three times now.
#153 to #130 - themassivefail
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That's... that's a hill.
User avatar #17 - howunexpected
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the problem with the Titanic was not in its design or form, but in its pilot. Therefore, his whole tweet makes little sense
#33 to #17 - baaaaaaa
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actually the bolts were of a cheaper material even though they knew it was more fragile, and the design of the hull was also not that safe
User avatar #43 to #33 - roninneko
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Tell that to the RMS Olympic, which not only preceded the Titanic but outlived it as a troop-transport in WWI... and sank the German U-103 by RAMMING it.
User avatar #29 to #17 - lolollo
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The Captain was also a professional.
#69 - mereu
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Mfw the comment section.

The Ark was real. How do I know that? Well it says so in the Bible. And they also found it in Turkey. I have a message for you hateful atheists: Read the bible to save your soul!
You'll be eliberated by what you'll find there. Like talking donkeys and snakes, giants, people living hundreds of years (Noah died at 950), God wrestling Jacob and defeating him, God commiting genocide, incest was ok, killing younglings was God's way to relief stress (You gotta hand it to the guy, it was a tough job), God himself says that he deceives his own prophets in order to get rid of them and much much more only in The Bible.
So you better hurry and get your own copy or you'll burn in hell, atheists!!!

I'll tip my fedora out of here now
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The ark might be real, but they proved the Shroud was a fake(Really early photograph, but not That early). Besides that I've told god to strike me dead where I stand repeatedly.
Besides that I already have all the holy books I need, though I wish they sold them in omnibus leather editions(But I don't think the author wants to encourage that religion he inspired).
#146 to #69 - blacklightsun
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The longevity of people in the Bible might be because a confusion between Solar and Moon cycles. As the Bible been somewhat poorly translated to other languages.
Also, many (if not all) events tell in the Bible might have occurred, just not as depicted in said collection of books, like saying a spider-man comic tells the story of 9/11 and spider-man saving as many people as possible. We know 9/11 happened, but spider-man did not saved anyone, because he doesn't exist.
Also, in Old Testament God is a prick, as he has tortured people for fun Os as a test of faith .
I have met a Jehovah's Witness before She was my GF and she told me that Jeohvah's Witnesses don't follow strictly the Bible because some customs depicted there are outdated. And I ask, if it's the word of God, how can it be outdated? And why they, humans, decide what is outdated and what isn't?

Tl;Dr There might be some of truth in the Bible. And humas are the one's deciding what to do with said collection of Books.

PS. Fedora is supposed to be worn by neckbeard autist beta ladiesman, atheist, MLP fans educated and interesting gentleman. Why you, an apparently religious person, is wearing one?
Nice bait, 6/10 jimmies a little rustled
Also, nice bite
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nice b8 m8
User avatar #155 to #83 - norkas
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I guess you could call it gr8 b8. What do you r8 it, m8?
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I r8 ur gr8 b8 an 8, m8, str8 up.
User avatar #239 to #155 - frenzyhero
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str8 8 outta 8s, soz if I was a bit l8 on my r8s, had a d8.
User avatar #240 to #239 - norkas
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that's rite m8
#77 to #69 - doctorstein
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Come on, man.
Come on, man.