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#85 - infinitereaper (06/19/2014) [-]
I do believe there are some reasons some people actually have weight problems, albeit being skinny or fat, this one girl who's brain was damaged by a tumor for example, she couldn't produce the hormones and levels she needed so she takes them by pill. Including those that regulate weight and energy bla bla.   
   
The point is some people have genetic problems linked to weight problems.   
   
I for example- am skinny as 						****					. Trying to build muscle made me lose weight, drinking protein shakes made me a little 10 pounds heavier but I lost all that weight anyway. Eating normal food doesn't do jack 						****					 to my weight.    
   
So I think some people do have genetic influences, and  I would  also say most are just lazy.
I do believe there are some reasons some people actually have weight problems, albeit being skinny or fat, this one girl who's brain was damaged by a tumor for example, she couldn't produce the hormones and levels she needed so she takes them by pill. Including those that regulate weight and energy bla bla.

The point is some people have genetic problems linked to weight problems.

I for example- am skinny as **** . Trying to build muscle made me lose weight, drinking protein shakes made me a little 10 pounds heavier but I lost all that weight anyway. Eating normal food doesn't do jack **** to my weight.

So I think some people do have genetic influences, and I would also say most are just lazy.
User avatar #420 to #85 - alphajunk (06/20/2014) [-]
you're right on some points,but you're wrong on others.

people would become fat/skinny IF they let themselves go and their body transforms where genetics will want them.
this all can be prevented if you fight it.

the majority of the people who are defending this are people who are regularly healthy then just happened to get fat so then they feel insecure enough to protest their ******** .

people like you who are skinny and cant gain weight are either a ectomorph,with parasites or like you said genes.



User avatar #237 to #85 - marinepenguin (06/19/2014) [-]
The reason you lost weight was because when you worked out, you didn't eat enough to sustain the activity, so you lost weight. You need to count your calories. Because as a dude who was 6'3 and 150lbs I used to eat "a ton". You don't, you simply don't realize what "a ton" of good quality food looks like. Eat 4000 calories a day, write that **** down to make sure you eat that much. Hit the weights hard. Then if you don't gain weight in any form in 3 months, you can say it's genetics. But I guarantee that you would gain muscle mass. The problem isn't your body, it's you.

People would just rather give up before they actually think that they are their own problem.
#249 to #237 - infinitereaper (06/19/2014) [-]
Do I ever talk about my other ******* health problems? Eh? Cause I have a lot going on, and a good bulk of it is related to my stomach and digestive system. This is the kind of **** that pisses me off. Yes, some people are just lazy and don't know the science, but it's not everyone so shut the hell up.

For ***** sake. I know what it takes to build muscle or weight, but I also know my body isn't very cooperative and I don't have the time or health to worry about it. My point is that my weight remains relatively stable no matter what. All the weight I gain ends up back to my regular zone. And it's not like I've been moving my body very much. I can literally consume thousands of calories per day and not do jack **** and still not gain weight, and if I do, it ends up back the same anyway.

Not even mentioning the fact that I can hardly handle food with the nasua and stomach problems, or my polyuria, thirst and dehydration problems. My metabolism is fast, that's why I don't get fat. Some poeple are just like that. If I ate any more than I used to do regularly it would twist my stomach and put me in the hospital.

I really don't give a **** about your personal experiences, that's your body, this is mine. Stop being a judgmental prick.
User avatar #252 to #249 - marinepenguin (06/19/2014) [-]
I'm not being judgmental. And I still don't believe you have an excuse. I have a friend who has celiacs, diabetes, and about 3 other illnesses that ravage his knees, kidneys, liver, and god knows what else. He has almost died twice. Yet he manages to work out, eat well, and be in pretty damn good shape because he'd rather not die before the age of 30. I wasn't trying to piss you off, but you just seem like an angry person in general.
User avatar #256 to #252 - infinitereaper (06/19/2014) [-]
Yeah? Well I don't give a **** what you think. My point is that ignorant people tend to know the difference between laziness and and actual genetic influences. There is a difference. This world ain't equal buddy. Neither are our bodies. You'd have to be delusional to think otherwise.

It isn't fair to generalize.
User avatar #259 to #256 - marinepenguin (06/19/2014) [-]
The problem with what your saying is that you are acting like genetics is that big of an influence. Do some people have it better then others do at gaining muscle size or just in general fitness? Of course, but it's not the be-all end-all of how things work. There is only a very very slim amount of the population who's genetics are so terrible that they cannot do anything to make themselves better.

Can every guy work out and get 22 inch arms? No. Can every guy work out and at least bench press his body weight and be fairly fit and strong? Unless you are in that .001%, yes. I'm not generalizing, I'm telling you a fact. Genetics are not as big of an issue to your general fitness as you'd think.
User avatar #267 to #259 - infinitereaper (06/19/2014) [-]
Depends on which end the stick you fall under doesn't it? This ain't about fitness in the fist place, it's about weight, metabolism and weight gain/loss. Some people have to eat tiny portions or else they will get fat as **** . Others can eat whatever they want and not gain a pound. Most fall under some normal range.

With your line of logic you just can't explain that.
User avatar #272 to #267 - marinepenguin (06/19/2014) [-]
You can, using exactly what I'm talking about. But like you said, it's the opposite end of the stick. Your body will not gain fat if you don't eat more then what your body consumes. Period. If you eat more then what you need, you gain weight (that weight is fat or muscle depending on the type of food, and if you do activities of some sort). If you eat less, you lose weight. It is a very simple process. Most people cannot comprehend how simple it is.
User avatar #277 to #272 - infinitereaper (06/19/2014) [-]
If you're implying human physiology is simple you really have no idea about the complexity of human biology.
If someone burns through food faster than the amount they can eat, they won't gain weight. The only reason I gained weight was because I was drinking protein shakes every day and not working out. Once I stopped I returned to normal.

I was consuming a ridiculous amount of calories and not doing anything at all.

Eating that much in actual food would be ******* inhuman.
Suckling down shakes all the time would be just as insane.
User avatar #282 to #277 - marinepenguin (06/19/2014) [-]
Human physiology is complex, gaining and losing weight is simple. That's what I'm talking about. I have a metabolism that is insane. I eat nearly every hour. I **** 4 times a day. My body burns through food very very quickly. When you have a fast metabolism you simply have to eat MORE. That's the bottom line. I eat 5000 calories most days. You get used to it and eventually it's not difficult to meet that.
User avatar #283 to #282 - infinitereaper (06/19/2014) [-]
then good for you

enjoy burning through your lifespan
User avatar #291 to #283 - marinepenguin (06/19/2014) [-]
Eating large amounts of food to gain size and muscle mass will not shorten my lifespan. Having a larger amount of muscle mass throughout your life has actually proven to lengthen your lifespan dramatically.

Nice try though.
User avatar #295 to #291 - infinitereaper (06/19/2014) [-]
Metabolism is directly related to lifespan and aging.

User avatar #300 to #295 - marinepenguin (06/19/2014) [-]
Your metabolism is simply the rate at which chemical processes occur in your body. This has no real noticeable effect on lifespan. The people with the slowest metabolisms, i.e. people who are 50% bodyfat and do nothing all day. Tend to die first in a generation. People who have higher metabolisms. i.e. Those who stay active and in shape most of their lives. Tend to die later. So while I could see how having a faster metabolism could in essence put more wear and tear on a persons body as they age. I think it's a better trade off then not being in shape.
#176 to #85 - dedj (06/19/2014) [-]
I feel you bro/sis. It's extremely difficult for me to gain any weight, but I lose weight like crazy. My metabolism has always been through the roof. Although I am within Ideal weight, I have to eat significantly more than I want to just to keep that level.
#153 to #85 - ExorArgus (06/19/2014) [-]
As a fellow skinny person, i can verify. I weighed 145 pounds for 7 years from grade 7 to a few years ago. I'm now 155.
#147 to #85 - chrip (06/19/2014) [-]
I agree with you. I have a friend who is sort of like you. He eats whatever he wants but never ever takes on weight. And its not like he doesn't eat a lot. I have seen him eat 15 scones within half an hour, eat 10 pancakes (the thick ones) after the regular meal, and 1,6 pound meat within an hour before he began to drink a lot of beers.

He just doesn't get fatter. He is aware that when he becomes between 25 to 30 years old that, that might change but until then he is taking advantage of it, as much as he can
User avatar #120 to #85 - lordketchup ONLINE (06/19/2014) [-]
How much do you eat?

I've seen tons of skinny dudes saying "I eat so much and never get big!" and they eat like 1000 calories in a day, eating snickers for lunch etc

If you eat big, real food you will get big
User avatar #230 to #120 - marinepenguin (06/19/2014) [-]
******* thank you, as a former skinny guy I can attest to this. I did this same thing.
User avatar #123 to #120 - infinitereaper (06/19/2014) [-]
I've stuffed my face for weeks with no gain weight. Burgers, junk food, take out, fries, potatoes, snacks, eggs, anything and everything really. lately though I've slowed down. Even when I do gain weight I just lose it and end up back where I started.
#126 to #123 - lordketchup ONLINE (06/19/2014) [-]
Top kek, you need to eat REAL FOOD, eat chicken fillet, brocolli, organic beef, salmon, alot of eggs

Eat healthy food, but large portions, if you're skinny, junk food will make jack ****

Drink alot of milk, eat alot of fruit and vegetables and workout, you will definitely get big in a few months if you follow this, trust me
#127 to #126 - infinitereaper (06/19/2014) [-]
Don't tell me how to science you dip **** .
I've eaten all those things and more and it doesn't matter.
And **** off not everyone can afford all that **** .
User avatar #134 to #127 - lordketchup ONLINE (06/19/2014) [-]
Actually, eating healthy isn't expensive at all

The store closest to me sells chicken fillet, 2kg for 8 dollars, i can buy a liter of milk for 1 dollars aswell, 6 dollars for a bag of frozen veggies.
User avatar #135 to #134 - infinitereaper (06/19/2014) [-]
who the **** says I don't eat healthy now
User avatar #137 to #135 - lordketchup ONLINE (06/19/2014) [-]
Junkfood is pretty unhealthy
User avatar #138 to #137 - infinitereaper (06/19/2014) [-]
that's why it's called junk food
#131 to #127 - lordketchup ONLINE (06/19/2014) [-]
Too bad for you then
User avatar #114 to #85 - hybredmoon (06/19/2014) [-]
It's true, there are some people who have glandular or hormonal problems that predispose them to being fat.

However the point in the post still holds true. It is simply energy in vs energy out. I don't care what kind of problems you have, if you burn more calories than you eat you WILL lose weight, you have to. Simple physics denies any other possibility, energy can neither be created or destroyed only change form. Fat is stored energy, if you use more of it than you take in the fat goes away.

Medical issues might make it harder for some than others, but it is still not impossible.
User avatar #94 to #85 - ljxjlos ONLINE (06/19/2014) [-]
For me it´s the exact opposite.

I´m pretty tall and have the luck to have a face that looks thin no matter what, luckily, so I don´t really look fat, but no matter what I do, I gain weight ridiculously fast and loosing it is a nearly impossible struggle.

I go to the gym regularely and jog, but It still takes months and months to get rid of even 1 or 2 kilos.
On the other side, if I stop training even for a few days, it all comes back like a ******* boomerang of fat and rage - I stopped training for 7 days because I went to London and then to the Download Festival - and during only those 7 days, I gained 6 ******* kilo...and that was with completely normal calory intake AND with at least a bit movement, considering that I walked all the time.
User avatar #144 to #94 - jukuku (06/19/2014) [-]
It could be low testosterone. Being severely obese will lower your testosterone levels, which is a major help in losing weight.

See your GP and ask for a referral to an endocrinologist.
User avatar #182 to #144 - ljxjlos ONLINE (06/19/2014) [-]
It definitely isn´t testosterone, I´m way to high on that, already got it checked.

I actually got nearly everything checked because not only do I have these problems with loosing weight, but my body goes crazy on nearly everything. Somethings severly ****** inside my body, but not one amongst the dozens of doctors could tell me what exactly up to this point.

Same to dachief, by the way.

Thanks for the try, though.
User avatar #305 to #182 - jukuku (06/19/2014) [-]
Depression or anxiety? I gained a lot when I was depressed for a number of years.

Either way, don't let it get you down, man. You can change it. It might be hard but we all have to deal with some more ******** than others. You'll get it figured out, you just have to keep at it and believe you're capable of it. It is possible and you can achieve it, no matter how hard.

Good luck and it's awesome that you're trying to make positive changes. I hope you can recognize that wanting to make a change is an achievement in itself.
User avatar #306 to #305 - ljxjlos ONLINE (06/19/2014) [-]
Manic Depression, but I´ve head the problems years before this started - as it looks, my whole body-household is kinda confused, everything works, but not exactly like it should. It´s just annoying, tho, nothing life-threatening yet.

Thanks for the heads-up, though
User avatar #118 to #94 - dachief (06/19/2014) [-]
Have you perhaps had a doctor check out your thyroid? Thyroid issues can be killer.
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