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#18 - necrons (09/19/2013) [+] (4 replies)
WARNING: LONG BORING AND EDUCATIONAL POST PROVING THIS IDIOT WRONG.
You are an ignorant retard, ever heard of something called the ten percent rule? As you move up the food chain only ten percent of energy goes with you (this is due to excrement and various biological cycle ******** ). IE: a cow will have already eaten ten times as many calories in feed as it provides for us by the time we slaughter it. For every acre of land required to produce a certain amount of calories in wheat or corn for direct human consumption you need 10 times as many acres producing feed for livestock to produce an equivalent amount of calories in beef or poultry. I don't advocate going vegetarian because i like to eat meat and i see no problem with eating it in moderation, but what you just said is completely wrong.
#30 - skyelinesunrise (09/20/2013) [+] (2 replies)
Vertical farming.

They have large towers of land, divided into floor sections.

tipnut [dot] com [slash] grow-potatoes/ <since I don't feel like logging in and want the link to show for anons
You can grow 100 pounds of potatos in 4 square feet (essentially 16 cubic feet)

You can in theory do this at a much larger scale. Industrial vertical farming still has a long way to go, but its advancing a lot.
User avatar #15 - coffeebinge (09/19/2013) [+] (1 reply)
Not sure if the same amount of space would be necessary to feed a vegan world.
But I'm sure the main problem is: there's too many humans alive. And our numbers are growing. I'm no church of euthanasia fag but I think in a better world with a way smaller population.

#12 - khalidh (09/19/2013) [+] (1 reply)
Oh **** ! A controversial post on FJ
Everyone pull out your PhDs
#11 - burritochan (09/19/2013) [-]
Every step up the food chain, about 90% of the energy is lost in transfer. So, for example, eating an acre of corn provides *much* more energy than feeding an acre of corn to a cow, then eating the cow. That's why vegetarians' argument works. Having more people eat lower on the food chain reduces the total amount of land needed to provide for people.
User avatar #5 - nanako (09/19/2013) [+] (3 replies)
Regarding the morality of veganism, i have to say that plants are alive too. They grow, they repreoduce, they react to their surroundings, and they adapt to survive. Animals might have a more complex set of behaviours, but we're all organisms in the end.

all life feeds on other life. And things must always die for other things to live. it's The Circle of Life.

as people, we're adapted to eat lots of things. unlike many animals that live solely on meat or veg. we can have both. i think it's pretty silly to waste that part of ourselves.
User avatar #32 to #27 - nanako (09/20/2013) [-]
lol no. i eat vegetables and meat, like most humans. my point was that i don't agree with the moral arguments for veganism
#1 - ohayougozaimasu (09/19/2013) [+] (2 replies)
I agree, more or less.   
   
No matter what we humans do, we will ultimately destroy the environment and many animal habitats.  However, you may want to consider the argument that an environmentalist/vegetarian/vegan would make: &quot;What you described is better than destroying our environment through animal farms.&quot;  I wouldn't be so confident in my answer without addressing other valid points.
I agree, more or less.

No matter what we humans do, we will ultimately destroy the environment and many animal habitats. However, you may want to consider the argument that an environmentalist/vegetarian/vegan would make: "What you described is better than destroying our environment through animal farms." I wouldn't be so confident in my answer without addressing other valid points.
#29 - anonymous (09/20/2013) [-]
The F Word | Vegetarians Not Allowed | Channel 4 <For ***** and giggles
User avatar #28 - douevensax (09/19/2013) [-]
TLR
Meat is Beast
#17 - leetroll (09/19/2013) [+] (1 reply)
except animal protein digests easier and we get more benefit from it than from soy protein or anything else
#14 - zanshin (09/19/2013) [+] (1 reply)
Your point is wrong. We wouldn't need any more farms. I'm certain we'd use less space than now.
User avatar #13 - SuitUp (09/19/2013) [+] (1 reply)
I always found the 'vegetarian is healthier' point somewhat redundant. It's healthier if you do it right - there are all sorts of deficiencies and things if you don't. If you do it right then of course it's going to be healthier, just like any diet will be healthier because you're consiously putting more thought into what you eat. It's just as easy to have a healthy omnivorous diet by putting in the same level of effort.

Vegetarianism also doesn't itself save you from the cravings of junk food, which is really the big killer these days.
User avatar #9 - odinshomeboy (09/19/2013) [-]
Humans do whatever the **** we want. We are at the top of the food chain and if I want to eat a baby animal I ******* will.

Anyone who doesn't take pride in being the dominant species on the planet is insulting their ancestors for fighting tooth and nail to survive.

Eat a Steak. Be Proud of Surviving.
User avatar #6 - darthsalias (09/19/2013) [+] (1 reply)
actually its just as unhealthy in this age due to msg. even if you buy "orgainic no msg" its still useally there, not because of false labeling but rather the pollen from msg grown plant can travel over 50 miles. if theres an organic farm near by. it wont be for long
#2 - anonymous (09/19/2013) [+] (1 reply)
You do realize that most farmland that grows food goes to feed animals right? And that if cows do graze instead of growing food for them then that leads to deforestation?

It's simple physics really.
Food -> animal -> human takes more energy than food -> human
Some people argue that cows can graze on land that crops can't grow on but looking at food production today only about 1% of all cows are actually grazing, most eat corn that is grown in a field.
User avatar #8 - tittylovin (09/19/2013) [-]
Not funny
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