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User avatar #46 - gobnick (08/20/2014) [-]
I actually had a catholic friend on facebook who seemed to be gay for a while, but then "found jesus", who legitimately posted the first world problems meme with the caption "I wanted to do the ice bucket challenge for ALS awareness, but then I found out the majority of proceeds went to fetal stem cell research".....I really don't see the problem here....and yes i used the past tense correctly for those wondering
#59 to #46 - apurpleliger (08/20/2014) [-]
No, no, it's okay. Most of the Catholic kids I've seen do the challenge didn't even know about the donating part, so they didn't go against their beliefs.
User avatar #62 to #59 - gobnick (08/20/2014) [-]
I just don't understand though, I imagine the fetuses they use are either:
1. dead, so there's nothing but good coming from that (although in thought, dead fetuses wouldn't produce viable cells i think_
2. aborted/donated anyway, there's nothing they can do to keep people from giving them the supplies, so why are they targeted?
if someone doesn't want the ******* thing anyway, why are people so against using what would be useless for a cause that actually improves the quality of life for currently living people on the planet? is it because it shows that there is less of a god? i don't see how, if anything they could take it as god giving us the greatest gift ever with our intelligence and using it to the utmost, not to mention resourcefulness....
why all the hatred towards something that is taking something that catholics don't like, and making something good of it? shouldn't it be that there are people doing this stuff anyway? it's like destroying the chariot but leaving the horses. or however that phrase works.
#186 to #62 - apurpleliger (08/20/2014) [-]
I'm not an expert on the subject of stem cell research, but the general Catholic view is that life should be chosen no matter what. I'm not sure how the fetal stem cells come about, but if they're intentionally taken from a fetus that could have survived otherwise, or if the fetus is created for the purpose of providing stem cells, it goes against that belief. I think it's something like they use artificial insemination to create the fetuses, and then they discard the ones that aren't suitable? I think it fits somewhere in between the doctrines against abortion and the doctrines against birth control. Again, I don't really know much about the stem cell research.

One thing I do know is that the Catholic church supports adult stem cell research, just not fetal stem cell research.
User avatar #184 to #62 - incoming (08/20/2014) [-]
I can't speak for any religions on the matter but, this is a hypothetical possibility to help explain. IF a cure was found using stem cells, more would be required to produce enough of the cure and it would likely make others realize how much stem cells could benefit medical research. The greater demand could end up encouraging abortions or even create incentives to have an abortion for the purpose of donating the stem cells.

IMO stem cell research is a good thing. Better to make use of the fetus to save lives than for it to have been entirely wasted. Sure the baby could have been the next Einstein, but since it can't be at least it could help a living Einstein do some good for the world.
User avatar #77 to #62 - superflyingcookie (08/20/2014) [-]
User avatar #50 to #46 - arsonistchapel (08/20/2014) [-]
Yeah I had a catholic friend do the challenge then later he made a status like," I'm so sorry I didn't know what it was about, I'm actually against stem cell research blah blah".
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