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#31 - tsoper
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We cant have any religious discussions on funnyjunk anymore, because all the atheists are branded fedora wearers and all other religions are branded with stupidity and ignorance..


Any argument over it will lack any serious reply. And usually someone will comment with "tips fedora" or other stupid jokes.
User avatar #66 to #31 - twondai
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what you need are agnostic athiests, and christians who are also open minded, then you can have a proper discussion.
User avatar #84 to #66 - sciencexplain
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I'm an agnostic atheist. The way I see it, you can be atheist but at the same time, since your science can't disprove the God, similar to the teapot complex, you should also be open-minded as to include the possibility of a God. Being reasonable and open to every argument is what makes you intelligent and an acceptable person in this situation.
User avatar #91 to #84 - twondai
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that's exactly why i do my best to think about the other guy's arguement, rather than just get mad at it
User avatar #96 to #91 - sciencexplain
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If their comment looks stupid or I know the person for being a dickhead who can't argue, I'll then just ignore them.
User avatar #68 to #66 - YllekNayr
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most atheists are agnostic
User avatar #70 to #68 - twondai
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except for fedorafags. those guys are too stuck in their little fantasy mlp world, where everything is too perfect to need a god, so they assume he doesn't exist.
User avatar #71 to #70 - YllekNayr
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Fedoras and atheists and bronies have nothing do with each other.
Seriously.
Why do people not get this?

And your ending statement about "so they assume he doesn't exist" is ******* stupid, and entirely opposite of the reason why people are atheists.
User avatar #80 to #71 - twondai
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i know that. it was a joke, that i now realise translated very poorly into text, making fun of those pimply faced neckbeards you see in cringe comps. i have a very poor judgement of when to make jokes i'm an atheist and i know that's not why people become atheists. unless you thought i actually believed those neckbeards thought mlp was real, i don't see why you got so angry.
User avatar #81 to #80 - YllekNayr
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That's actually the standard sentiment about atheists on funnyjunk for some reason. My default assumption is that you're being serious when so many others are saying the same thing and actually believe it.
#344 to #31 - nickypickle
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*fips tedora*
User avatar #90 to #31 - satansferret
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The face that we weren't mentioned offends me.
User avatar #113 to #31 - bobthedilder
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yep
User avatar #214 to #31 - therockofshame
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And now everybody is going to agree and thumb you up while doing absolutely nothing to help the situation.
User avatar #215 to #31 - garymotherfingoak
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plus a bunch of /pol/tists migrated here and swarm /religion/ now.
User avatar #273 to #31 - yunoavailable
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that's true about most things, except any argument contrary to the popular one is branded as bait. it kinda sucks
#295 to #31 - elaxx
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*tips mitre*
User avatar #47 to #31 - beren
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Was there ever a time one could have a good religious discussion on the internet?
User avatar #56 to #47 - hanabro
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I've had good religious discussions on here before the ebuk fedora maymay came around. Fedoraphiles killed it.
User avatar #155 to #31 - fyaq
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because its devolved into a circlejerk.

If you seriously think the atheist side is without blame and just sit there trying to intelligently debate while these ignorant christians stop them, then you're part of the problem.
User avatar #86 to #31 - cryingchicken
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Well to be fair, religious arguments are so old and stale now that choosing either side on the internet is futile.
User avatar #88 to #31 - badgerbaiting
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I like to think that we're moving towards an attitude of "let me do mine and I'll leave you do yours" (within reason). I am personally a level 5 laser lotus in my local Buddhist temple, but I don't judge others.
#104 to #88 - veggiebuals
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Comment Picture
User avatar #171 to #88 - mrselfdestruct
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oh and where is your cookie wand?
User avatar #170 to #88 - mrselfdestruct
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Six Seasons and a Movie!
User avatar #34 to #31 - gammajk
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*tips tippity toppity tip top*
#140 - EdwardNigma
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And here I sit with my agnostic ass.
Don't know if god is real, don't care. God has done nothing for me, but it could also simply be that god lets things take it's course and evolution is just that, gods way of things taking it's course. Because I don't think god would be bound by our conceptions of morality, what is good to us is evil to whatever other life may exist in the universe. God has a universe to manage, and it's work might be slow, which explains why things can take millions of years to happen. Or maybe there is no god, and all that has happened in the universe is sheer chance and luck.

Don't know.
Don't care.
Will find out when I die.
#181 to #140 - skabbalabba
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If you find out (when you die), then you'll brobably be ****** though.   
   
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If you find out (when you die), then you'll brobably be ****** though.

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User avatar #183 to #181 - EdwardNigma
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I hope it's reincarnation!
User avatar #186 to #183 - skabbalabba
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I hope nothing happens, I believe nothing happens, and it would seem quite probable that nothing happens.
Although reincarnation as someone well off in the world would be a bit more preferable, but it would have to be someone well off.
User avatar #196 to #186 - EdwardNigma
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I know in my mind the most likely thing after death is nothing, just darkness that I can never be aware of that because I have no consciousness, no thoughts or memories. And you know what? That scares me more than anything else.
User avatar #199 to #196 - skabbalabba
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May i ask why? Because this answer always baffles me.
I hope you're not implying that you will have any experience of this darkness or any form of fear by this point of view, that's not what is meant by 'nothing'.
User avatar #202 to #199 - EdwardNigma
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I won't, and that just makes it worse.
Sure I won't be able to be afraid, and I will have no concept of time or anything, but thats just it. I will know nothing, all my memories erased, nothing to do in the dark but wait, and wait for what? Nothing. It scares me to know that all I've done, I will forget, all I've seen I will forget and never get to experience anything again. This is made a lot worse when you are a grown ass man with a fear of the dark.
User avatar #229 to #202 - skabbalabba
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Uhm, i think your fear is what i hoped it wouldn't be...

Ok, you say stuff like ''nothing to do but wait'', which makes me wonder if you really know what the scope of nothing is. Nothing isn't darkness, or lack of purpose, or waiting, it's just... nothing. The best way to describe it, in my mind, would be to equate it to how you felt like before you were born. Was that period so scary? That's a stupid question, it didn't feel like anything because there was no you, and place for fear to manifest.

The way you describe it kinda makes it sound like you'll be a blind, deaf, paralized, mentally disabled man who has no functional sensory organs, waiting for a train that will never come.
User avatar #236 to #229 - EdwardNigma
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I can't remember what it was like before I was born either, and the difference is, this time it is forever. I never get to be alive again. It's that nothingness that scares me. I don't think you get what I am saying. Nothing scares me, because all that I am is gone. All my fear and sadness is gone, but with it, is my joy. It's really hard to put my fear into words.
User avatar #253 to #236 - skabbalabba
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Well, i can't really refute that. All i can say is that i don't have that worry at all, i guess because i see no differences between the ''before life-after death'' scenarios that matter in any way.

Oh well.
#185 to #140 - anon id: 9e277a73
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agnostic =/= atheist.

Agnostic merely means "ehh, i don't know for sure, but i'll go with it".
Gnostic means "YES I KNOW THIS IS TRUE!"

So, you're a agnostic atheist.
User avatar #356 to #185 - vigilum
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That is not agnosticism. Agnosticism is the stance that nothing is known/nothing can be known about whether or not a god exists.

Agnostic theists are closer to what you're describing. They are the ones who believe while saying they cannot know.
User avatar #263 to #140 - TheGodamnBatman
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I agree, I don't CARE if there is a god. If there is, cool, If there isn't, cool.
But like you, I hope there is SOMETHING after death.
My hope was something like a personal heaven you have compete control of.
At the very least I would want something like reincarnation.
Like you said below, you may lose everything bad in the "Darkness", but you lose everything good too.
User avatar #268 to #140 - nought
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The sad thing is, when you die your brain will simply stop functioning and your body will start the decomposition process. Sorry bud
User avatar #271 to #140 - myrtille
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Agnostics ARE Atheists
User avatar #336 to #140 - uptightmonkey
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I just watched that south park episode with the agnostic foster parents. I understand you. Or, maybe I don't. Who knows?
#366 to #140 - anon id: 553a273c
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that's how i've always felt. i just don't care, i'd rather worry about whats happening now than what may or may not happen when i die. i guess im "agnostic"
#370 to #140 - swiggityswooty
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i agree with what you say, but still you try to kill batman
name relevant
User avatar #375 to #140 - fullosprey
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Thumbed for that final sentence haha
User avatar #378 to #140 - hattheifbatman
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His thought are higher than our thought, so you won't see it when you want to
User avatar #200 to #140 - priestoftheoldones
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That's my outlook on it too. "I'll find out when I'm dead,"
#142 to #140 - pointblankhits
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Well said
Well said
User avatar #191 to #140 - Flammenwerfer
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I'd say this is more of apatheism rather than agnosticism. Apatheism implies there may or may not be a god and you just really don't give a **** either way. More of an "ain't nobody got time for that" attitude on the whole thing.

That's just what I've learned through a really awesome religious studies course. Anyone wanna correct/add to this?
User avatar #193 to #191 - EdwardNigma
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That'd be more accurate then, I guess.
Dunno what that anon is talking about.
User avatar #206 to #193 - broswagonist
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What the anon was talking about was the definition of agnostic. There are 2 main kinds: agnostic theist, agnostic atheist.

1. Believes in a higher existence, but doesn't know what it is particularly
2. Does not believe in a higher existence, but can't tell is one exists or not

You seem to be apatheic, and this is from Wikipedia: "The view that there is no proof of either the existence or nonexistence of any deity, but since any deity that may exist appears unconcerned for the universe or the welfare of its inhabitants, the question is largely academic. Therefore, their existence has little to no impact on personal human affairs and should be of little theological interest."
User avatar #248 to #191 - tsoper
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apathy means you dont care about life or anything else in general..

i had never seen it be used again to care about religion..

I think agnostic works better because he states he doesnt know and he will never know in this lifetime. If you dont know and dont seek to know, you simply dont care.
#304 to #248 - doyouevenniggerbro
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The word apathy means you don't care about something. Not the entirety of life, and though not very well known, Apatheism is a illegitimate religious state which fits what EdwardNigma description of his beliefs more.   
Not knowing about the existence or non-existence of a higher deity = Agnostic   
Not caring about about said possibilities = Apatheist   
   
The identifier between the two is whether or not someone cares. So one can be an Agnostic and Apatheist, but it would be more accurate and just generally makes more sense to define them as an apatheist.   
   
 TLDR;ya wrong m8
The word apathy means you don't care about something. Not the entirety of life, and though not very well known, Apatheism is a illegitimate religious state which fits what EdwardNigma description of his beliefs more.
Not knowing about the existence or non-existence of a higher deity = Agnostic
Not caring about about said possibilities = Apatheist

The identifier between the two is whether or not someone cares. So one can be an Agnostic and Apatheist, but it would be more accurate and just generally makes more sense to define them as an apatheist.

TLDR;ya wrong m8
#1 - psychotayto
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"Rise of atheism"? Why? What are they gonna do? Throw fedoras at you? I'm a none religious person but even I find most atheists retarded. Also this post wasn't funny so **** you and **** your religious crap
#37 to #1 - anon id: 6bbae46d
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Someone who says "none religious" instead of non-religious is awfully hard to take serious
User avatar #69 to #1 - YllekNayr
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"I'm not a religious person but I hate atheists"

Yeah, ok. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
Do you believe in any gods or not?
#259 to #69 - psychotayto
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>not getting the point.
Look bitch, it's not that I hate atheists, it's that I hate edgy 14y old fedora tippers like you. You'd know that if you read the rest of my comments and not started barking at me like the rest of these bitches replying to me
>Tl;dr get rekt faggot
User avatar #383 to #259 - YllekNayr
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I did read them. You're an idiot.
User avatar #413 to #383 - psychotayto
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*******? You just read what the other autistics who can't read assumed, "hurr durr you're trying to be cool kid and betterer than very1!!" That's literally the only conclusion you autistics jumped to without even processing what I said. Enjoy being an edgy fedra tipper, faggot
#118 to #1 - anon id: bedec9b6
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the point is that in most modern countries, atheism (or agnosticism. the terms seem pretty vague to me) is a growing mindset, with more people doubting the various religions and governments becoming more and more secular.

as for "what are they gonna do" that is clearly stated in the content; the guy clearly hopes that they do not "treat us as we treated them" which I assume involves things like stoning, burning at the stake, Spanish Inquisition style torture, and generally forcing their beliefs on others in cruel and horrific ways.

and lastly, the tone of the quote seems - to me - to either be a simple observation on the state of society, or maybe even just one guy with a set of beliefs accepting folk with different beliefs. no need to get angry.
#160 to #1 - zerith
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Calm down there, bub.
#211 to #1 - mrbloaps
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>not religious
> find atheists stupid
what does make you then...
#275 to #1 - anon id: bbef6c27
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Guys, THIS IS BAIT, quit arguing.
#309 to #1 - anon id: b9325308
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I guess bill gates is retarded then
User avatar #2 to #1 - sinery
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*****, non religious people are by definition atheists.
#9 to #2 - ronjeremysweiner
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not necessarily
User avatar #10 to #9 - sinery
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Gib example.
#12 to #10 - ronjeremysweiner
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someone could believe in an existence of god
but never go to church, or do anything to further their relationship with god/gods or whatever
User avatar #21 to #12 - yunogasaii
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He's still religious, maybe not heavily so but he still believes in religion
User avatar #57 to #21 - thefates
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An agnostic doesn't believe you could prove one way or the other. They don't deny the possibility of god existing but they don't necessarily believe either.
User avatar #110 to #10 - alucord
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Agnostics
#361 to #110 - sytheris
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Atheists can be agnostics. Gnosticism is a claim to knowledge. When paired with theism/atheism it becomes a claim towards knowledge of god or lackthereof.

An Agnostic Atheist is one who doesn't believe in a god but doesn't know if one exists or not, a Gnostic Atheist claims to know no gods exist.
User avatar #3 to #2 - psychotayto
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No? Really?
User avatar #4 to #3 - sinery
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Sarcasm is unbecoming of the whiny.
User avatar #6 to #4 - psychotayto
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*Tips sombrero*
#7 to #6 - sinery
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#64 to #1 - mayoroftownsville
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User avatar #5 to #1 - SlowpokeForever
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You realize most neckbeards represent like, 2 percent of atheists? Get off your high horse man. I doubt he means like some violent uprising. There's just more and more people going "Eh this Christ/Buddah/Shiva/Alduin ain't really for me".
#24 to #5 - Quimira
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the world eater shall not be mocked in such a manner
User avatar #25 to #24 - SlowpokeForever
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I got really confused until I realized I had mentioned Alduin up there as a joke. I am not a clever man.
#216 to #5 - anon id: cd02d242
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not everyone can sport a fedora so they stick with not-going-church religion.
User avatar #11 to #5 - psychotayto
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The majority are either edgy kids or fedora neckbeards or just crazy feminists who are just atheists because mommy and daddy think them being a whore is a sin
User avatar #13 to #11 - SlowpokeForever
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I don't really agree with you man, but it may be different life experiences. Most of the people I know that are atheists I never even knew until they admitted they weren't very religious.
User avatar #14 to #13 - psychotayto
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Probably different experiences, most atheists I've met were either edgy or retarded
User avatar #17 to #14 - TheHutchie
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Do you think that an atheist is somebody who takes an active stance against religion, or someone who doesn't believe in any god?

Because you seem to be talking about anti-religious people rather than non-religious people.
#18 to #17 - psychotayto
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Both, I'm none religious so I couldn't even begin to care about either sides. I'm mostly talking at the idiots that assume being atheist means that their against religious people. The ******* that go on the internet and tell other people "hurr durr god isn't reel you ship stahp falowin god he doesn't ecsist u look stupid" those people
User avatar #124 to #18 - rhiaanor
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im pretty sure you're just part of the cool kids sitting at home all day trying to act better than people on the internet club
User avatar #15 to #14 - SlowpokeForever
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I feel sorry for you man. Those guys give people who just don't care for religion a bad name. But I guess a cunt's a cunt no matter what walk of life you're going through am I right?
#16 to #15 - psychotayto
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I suppose
I suppose
User avatar #33 to #16 - citruslord
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I'd imagine many atheist don't even really know it. They probably just don't think or talk about it. What you're experiencing is the vocal minority. Just like with Christians, Feminists, and Bronies.
User avatar #23 to #11 - athojew
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The reason you think this is because the fedora neckbeards are the ones who don't shut the **** up about it. Most atheists don't give two ***** and don't tell everyone within ear shot that they are an atheist.
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#125 to #123 - kibbleking
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The United States is mostly Christian.
#127 to #123 - azumeow
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Come to the US and say that to 10 people on the street.

This will be the average response.
#317 to #127 - sytheris
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What was the post?
User avatar #401 to #317 - azumeow
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Something about all Americans being fat fedorabros.
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User avatar #173 to #163 - azumeow
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You're a cheeky little cunt, are't you?
#164 - larknok
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Listen up you ******* (talking to both Theists and Atheists here), I'm going to educate your asses. No, I'm not going to tell you what side I'm on, because it's not important.

What I am going to do is make sure you goddamn well understand your terminology.

There's two binaries. Theism<->Atheism
and Gnosticism<->Agnosticism.

It's NOT a three-point scale: Theism <-> Agnosticism <-> Atheism

Theism/Atheism refers ONLY to what you believe: is there a god or is there not a god?

Gnosticism/Agnosticism refers ONLY to how sure you are in such a belief. Gnostic claiming that "you know for sure" and Agnostic claiming "I guess I don't know for sure."

You can just as easily be an Agnostic Christian as you can be a Gnostic Atheist.
#244 to #164 - emotep
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Finally someone who understands the basic terminology. I swear most self proclaimed "agnostics" on this site, have no ******* idea what it means. People are putting everything in boxes like they are choosing a god damn covenant in Dark Souls or something.

I'd never disassociate myself with the term atheism, cause to be quite frank I find the likelihood of deities existing, are about the same as the likelihood that unicorns or dragons are real. [spoiler] But that's just my opinion maaan. [/spoiler]
That doesn't mean I can (nor do I claim to be able to) disapprove every imaginable negative. The same way no one can with 100% certainty disprove every insane tinfoil hat conspiracy theory, such as the Royal family of England being extraterrestrial lizards.

Most atheist doesn't claim that they have proof god doesn't exist, because it is completely nonsense to prove a negative.

So in that sense I'm an agnostic; as I'll never be able to prove, or know for sure, that a divine omni-sentient, omnipotent, and omnipresent being DOESN'T exist.
User avatar #255 to #164 - tsoper
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The problem is, people who dont know for sure cant really say what they believe in.

Therefore they would consider themselves just agnostics because choosing a side would be contradictory.

And those who know for sure, dont really know for sure. They believe for sure but cant actually prove anything.

Those people who just classify as athiests or christians without agnostic or gnostic in front of it, because thats what they believe for sure.
#403 to #255 - larknok
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Incorrect.

If you take a basic epistemology class, you would know that Knowledge = True, Justified Belief + Something Else (the something else is part of the Gettier Problem, a larger problem that I won't get into.)

Knowledge is not necessary for belief. Belief is necessary for knowledge.

I don't *know* that a lion won't eat me in the next ten seconds, but I believe that a lion won't eat me in the next ten seconds.
User avatar #404 to #403 - tsoper
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its possible that a lion would eat you in the next 10 seconds if you are near one!!!...
#406 to #404 - larknok
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But I am not aware of whether or not there is one near me. Doesn't mean it couldn't happen. I could have missed the radio warnings of an escaped lion. Just because I believe certain things doesn't mean that I know they're true.

I've believed all sorts of things without knowing precisely how accurate my beliefs have been.
User avatar #410 to #406 - tsoper
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what you are saying, is we should not take anyones beliefs in account because that would be very disadvantageous and dumb.
#411 to #410 - larknok
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Not at all.

I was trying to explain to you the fundamental difference between knowledge and belief. We hold all sorts of beliefs which do not merit knowledge.

Then I tried to show you that supposing knowledge before belief is contradictory to the definition of knowledge.

I did not put any ethical spin of *SHOULD* and *SHOULD NOT*. I merely tried to create a more meaningful discussion by explaining the terminology relevant to such a debate.
User avatar #197 to #164 - priestoftheoldones
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I'm an agnostic atheist. Yay!
User avatar #227 to #197 - thebritishguy
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Agnostic atheist is best atheist
#208 to #197 - supermandan
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#180 - hagletrough
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I work with 2 Atheists, 3 Catholics, a Mormon, and a couple other assorted religious people. They are all nice people and none of them impose their religious beliefs on me or each other. The only reason I know their religious preferences is because it slipped out in casual conversation. It's not even a big deal. Don't let a small percentage ruin the whole community.
I work with 2 Atheists, 3 Catholics, a Mormon, and a couple other assorted religious people. They are all nice people and none of them impose their religious beliefs on me or each other. The only reason I know their religious preferences is because it slipped out in casual conversation. It's not even a big deal. Don't let a small percentage ruin the whole community.
User avatar #189 to #180 - cumbersome
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THANK YOU
User avatar #40 - drldrl
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I'm an atheist and often go to religious events with family. We aren't assholes, there's just a minority that is. It would be like saying all Christians are extremist cunts like WBC.
#217 to #40 - anon id: cd02d242
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*tips fedora

Keep fighting the good fight!
#349 to #40 - sytheris
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The problem is what happens when those extremists get in charge and group think kicks in. I don't doubt you and your family are good people, but the psychology studies of the last century show that good people can do terrible, terrible things.
User avatar #29 - tittylovin
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I-is it over? Is the LEL TIP LE FEDORA craze finally over?
User avatar #267 to #29 - brettyoke
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Pretty much. Go anon mode and post that picture anywhere, it will get thumbed down now.
#306 to #29 - emptysuperman
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It's the only defense religious people have against having to think. So I think it's here to stay.
User avatar #74 to #29 - YllekNayr
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not until every last person on funnyjunk labels it as cancer
and that won't happen since circlejerking about atheists being neckbeard bronies with hats is too much fun for some people
User avatar #98 to #74 - tittylovin
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I'll accept it taking a backseat.
User avatar #20 - friendlyanon
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First time i ear about a priest speaking the truth.
#22 to #20 - mublerking
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Comment Picture
#26 to #22 - friendlyanon
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Eh, i didn't expect that...
Here, i have something completely unexpected and not used and abused until seeing it makes you wanna throw up.

How original we both are, aren't we?
#147 - squalllionhart
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i was once good friends with a christian and 3 Mormons in highschool and i'm an atheist   
jesus people it's not like it's impossible or even hard for us to get along
i was once good friends with a christian and 3 Mormons in highschool and i'm an atheist
jesus people it's not like it's impossible or even hard for us to get along
#167 to #147 - mrestachio
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Agreed, as long as both or all the people involved tolerate each other's beliefs and religions it's cool.    
Doesn't work as soon as there is one stuck up christian/muslim/whatever who says; **** you all, I know best.   
   
   
mfw religious ********* won't drop the subject
Agreed, as long as both or all the people involved tolerate each other's beliefs and religions it's cool.
Doesn't work as soon as there is one stuck up christian/muslim/whatever who says; **** you all, I know best.


mfw religious ********* won't drop the subject