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User avatar #17166 - cleverguy (03/24/2013) [-]
i can't for the life of me figure out why homosexuality is a sin.

everything else that is a sin has negative consequences for the sinner or those around the sinner, but homosexuality doesn't really hurt anyone. i just cant understand it.
User avatar #17229 to #17166 - jokeface (03/24/2013) [-]
I can't figure out why peanuts aren't technically nuts. The world is a messed up place, man.
User avatar #17238 to #17229 - cleverguy (03/24/2013) [-]
peanuts dont grow on trees
User avatar #17324 to #17238 - jokeface (03/24/2013) [-]
Yea I guess but I was just saying it that way to be concise. And anyway, speaking for myself, I don't get horny unless I'm thinking about someone sexually, and since I'm not married, all my sexual thoughts are adulterous. You're right, I was generalizing, and I apologize. But still, that's a lot of adulterous thoughts being had by unmarried people, and even married people who aren't thinking about their spouses.
User avatar #17325 to #17324 - cleverguy (03/24/2013) [-]
i still stand by my point. these thoughts can lead to adultery and thats why it is considered sin, but homosexuality does not have negative consequences like this
User avatar #17326 to #17325 - jokeface (03/24/2013) [-]
You can't claim to understand God's motives, man. He made it a sin, that's all that matters. You can question it all you want but at the end of the day it's not gonna change.
User avatar #17327 to #17326 - cleverguy (03/24/2013) [-]
im trying to take a human perspective on things, nothing wrong with that. blind faith is bad
User avatar #17244 to #17238 - jokeface (03/24/2013) [-]
Whatevs. I'm allergic to peanuts anyway.
User avatar #17246 to #17244 - cleverguy (03/24/2013) [-]
whats your point?
User avatar #17250 to #17246 - jokeface (03/24/2013) [-]
My point is peanuts are horrible and we need to have a peanut Holocaust.
User avatar #17252 to #17250 - cleverguy (03/24/2013) [-]
are we still talking about homosexuality?
User avatar #17253 to #17252 - jokeface (03/24/2013) [-]
No, I've just been talking about peanuts. We already covered why homosexuality is a sin in a previous conversation. God forbids certain things regardless of whether or not they're harmful or harmless. We obey because He commands it, not because of any collateral damage to ourselves/others.
User avatar #17300 to #17253 - cleverguy (03/24/2013) [-]
but he commands it because of collateral damage to ourselves/others

everything else that is considered a sin is that way
User avatar #17302 to #17300 - jokeface (03/24/2013) [-]
No, everything sinful is sinful because He condemns it. The damage it does is just bonus badness. There's a lot of other sins that are otherwise harmless, like coveting, being horny, and getting angry.
User avatar #17303 to #17302 - cleverguy (03/24/2013) [-]
coveting can lead to thievery

being horny isnt a sin;if you're referring to lust im pretty sure that just refers to adulterous horniness.

getting angry leads to physical violence.
User avatar #17304 to #17303 - jokeface (03/24/2013) [-]
Jesus said all lust is adulterous. He didn't specify only people who are in a relationship. He said "anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart." - Matthew 5:28. And you can go review the passage for context. That applies to everyone who's ever been turned on.

As for the others, I guess they can each lead to other bad things, but they themselves are only gateways. If sin was based on gateways, then eating would be a sin because it can lead to gluttony. Or sleeping would be a sin because it can lead to sloth.
User avatar #17306 to #17304 - cleverguy (03/24/2013) [-]
everything you just said is up for interpretation
User avatar #17307 to #17306 - jokeface (03/24/2013) [-]
Nah, just the second part. The adultery thing is pretty straightforward.
User avatar #17310 to #17307 - cleverguy (03/24/2013) [-]
it says "lustful intent"

i interpret that to mean looking at a woman with only the thought of having sex with her and her specifically. most likely as a deterrent to rape
User avatar #17314 to #17310 - jokeface (03/24/2013) [-]
That's only if you go by the ESV translation. But the original Greek literally translates to the words "evil desire". That means if your body wants her body, it's sinful.
User avatar #17316 to #17314 - cleverguy (03/24/2013) [-]
evil desire means rape

from the king james version "That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her"
this means intent to rape or have sex with someone who isnt your wife
User avatar #17317 to #17316 - jokeface (03/24/2013) [-]
No, it doesn't. Where are you getting your info from? Evil desire means sexual desire, it's called evil because it's adulterous (extramarital). Desire refers to looking at a woman and thinking about having sex with her (regardless of whether it's consensual or not). Any time you look at someone who isn't your wife and you think about having sex with her (or you get aroused by her), you're committing evil desire.
User avatar #17318 to #17317 - cleverguy (03/24/2013) [-]
since when does evil=sexual?

and thinking about having sex and thinking about having sex with someone can be very different
User avatar #17319 to #17318 - jokeface (03/24/2013) [-]
If you look at a woman and desire her (we agree that's what the verse is about, yes?), then that's adulterous, unless it's your wife. And adulterous=evil.
User avatar #17320 to #17319 - cleverguy (03/24/2013) [-]
so then we can agree that desiring to have sex with a woman who isn't your wife (adultery) is the sin, not just being horny.
#17256 to #17253 - covered (03/24/2013) [-]
Keep at it and you'll take bitchplzzz spot for the FJ Retard
User avatar #17258 to #17256 - jokeface (03/24/2013) [-]
Who is Bitchplzzz? And how did he attain such a title?
#17262 to #17258 - covered (03/24/2013) [-]
By being a retard
User avatar #17264 to #17262 - jokeface (03/24/2013) [-]
Yea, I got that impression. I was hoping for a more specific answer.
#17267 to #17264 - covered (03/24/2013) [-]
Well let me begin to explain it to you, sir.

Bitchplzzz was once your normal newfag, made some good content y'know.
But then it all went downhill when he started making the most asinine comments the eye ever did see, and the result was an unholy amount of red thumbs.

And from his one comment he would get shit storms, basically insulting his already doomed intelligence, and everytime he replied to them that comment was hit with the red thumb missiles.

His comments hold no substance and no meaning, even more so than the regular FJ user, he. is. a. re-t-t-t-t-t-tarrrdddd!!
User avatar #17274 to #17267 - jokeface (03/24/2013) [-]
Ah. I see. Well thank you for elaborating good sir.
User avatar #17313 to #17274 - bitchplzzz (03/24/2013) [-]
Hi, Im Chris Palko
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