Religion Board

Nice try, Mr. Atheism man

Friendzoned again

Oh, so brave

I don't belief in Edomite pagan storm gods if you're asking me that

"Yahweh" in the judeo-christian tradition is not a name but a statement
The pagan god "Yahweh" or "Yah" is a different entity

pls respond

aliens don't exist, retard

Then why are we building a wall

It's hard to say, mostly because we simply don't know if alien would have a brain structure similar to ours

Truth. That makes it more fun though. Imagine a mind like the buggers of ender's game. Each individual merely a part of the greater organism, like the fingers of a giant hand. Would they need a god? When one entity controls the bodies of millions, what kind of being would be a deity to them?

"That makes it more fun though"
Yeah, just try to imagine a totally different concept of the supranatural and transcendental completely incomprehensible to us

Sorry man, I think we're taking this different levels of serious. I just got to thinking about how religion might have developed isolated from humanity, and after I got over ^^ by conveniently not thinking about it, it was a fun writing exercise.

And you're the one that can't finish it

"and i realize this has all been bait from the start"
What an argument

>I am an uneducated pleb, please stop trying to educate me
caette, 2015 2016

bye forever retard

If it exists wanker

you're a fucking retard, caette

So?

No one likes you

>Someone disliking you literally right above.

This is you right now. Actually all the time.

Show me someone who likes you

Don't lie.

lying is a sin

mmmMMA GOD

Did I ask for your opinion?

Since it's a metaphysical concept, it can't be proved either way, and thus is left up to opinion.

*desert weather god

"Today's forecast has a 100% chance of stoning."

"The second predecessor of the Biblical deity was a god called Yahweh or Yah. It is not entirely clear where Yahweh originated. Some scholars believe that he was originally a fully-fledged member of the Levantine pantheon of deities, and one theory would identify him with Yam, the god of the sea. However, his origins may well be more obscure. For example, he seems not to appear in the well-known archives of the Levantine city of Ugarit. He may originally have been a more marginal deity, worshipped in and around the region of Edom in the far south-east of the Levant. This possibility is indicated both by extra-biblical evidence and by fragments of early texts preserved in the Bible (Jdg. 5.4, Hab. 3.3). The Israelites themselves may have come from Edom, or at least lived there for a time. There is also evidence that he was originally a storm god (Jdg. 5.4, Ps. 29, 68.8-9)."
religiousstudiesblog.blogspot.de/2010/12/el-yahweh-and-development-of-monotheism.html
Nice plagiarism btw

"the act of using another person's words or ideas without giving credit to that person"
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/plagiarism
The source of your particular post here is this passage of "There was no king in Israel" by Jo Ann Hackett, note how Yahweh is described as a warrior in form of a storm god but not a god of war, more over there's no indication of Yahweh being a subordinated and lieutenant of Ba'al's army

"you seriously just spent 20 minutes looking for a source that said it wasn't true"
>what you spent time proving me wrong
Are you fucking serious, mate?

you literally haven't spent anytime proving me wrong. the best we can say is "we don't know"
Alright, show my the source stating that Yahweh was part of the canaanite pantheon.
The point here is that you are spouting wikipedia articles without looking deeper into the matter

Nice goal posting now gimme those sources

Show me mate

"In the oldest biblical literature, Yahweh is a typical ancient Near Eastern "divine warrior" who leads the heavenly army against Israel's enemies;[6]" in the wikipedia article for Yahweh is referring to this book, to this passage to be exact, Jesus Christ caette don't you read sources? Look at the fucking page

It clearly states that Yahweh is a storm god that is sometimes "depicted as a warrior" especially in poetry this doesn't imply he's a "desert war god"

There's a difference between a war god (for example a commander of an heavenly army) and a god that goes to war

You stated that yourself by quoting wikipedia which refers to Yahweh as being soley a commander of a heavenly army

What question?
>oy vey it was obviously bait
"Origin"
Literally unsourced

The why reason csn be looked at as a part of our development process

When empires grew larger it's easier to have one hod for everyone and a centralised religion

But the whole levants were polytheistic at the time and stayed that way for centuries after the development of monotheism

There is always exeptions

But it made a lot of sense for rome to become christian for example

Yes, but Israel's case seems a bit more natural than artifical, I'm more interested in the reason why the ancient Hebrews made this jump from polytheism to monolatry and finally to full fledged monotheism

How does viewing religion as a cultural meme mesh with your own beliefs regarding that religion?

Perfectly

But you're a approaching it assuming the religion is untrue, aren't you Catholic?

No, I don't and yes, I am
Acknowledging that Judaism first had to develop as religion doesn't discredit it even if characters like Moses, Abraham, the Judges and Jakob are all mythological Judaism doesn't end here monotheism emerged simultaneously with the latter prophets and Elijah meaning there is a presumable correlation

However if the religion is true would that not answer the question of where it came from? Judaism presupposes a relationship between the Hebrew people and God. Acknowledging that at one point they were polytheistic and what became their main God was simply a member of that pantheon takes from the legitimacy of some of those beliefs.

First thing you need to learn:
Mythology doesn't necessarily need to be true to be true

If the mythology is fundamental to the religion then it being untrue is not good for the legitimacy of the religion. If Jesus was purely mythological that would be very problematic for Christianity. Abraham is similarly fundamental to Judaism.

>he didn't understood

I did, not all mythology is fundamental. If Jesus never resurrected Lazarus Christianity is unharmed. If Jesus was never resurrected that is a major issue for the religion. It is my opinion that the covenant of Abraham is fundamental to Judaism.

There seems to be a pattern after societies become more and more centralised

Then again this is also about belief and how convincing the religion is to others. If a king change religion it's a big chance his people will as well.

one god*

This picture gave me back the meaning in my life

That's right, Jakob, now go shoot up your school

stop talking to yourself Jakob

What are you implying, Jakob?

That maybe you are just my alternative personality and you're talking to your personality, which means there Are 4 Jakobs inside my head

Sounds like a lot of bullshit, don't listen to him, Jakob

Stop bullshitting him, Jakob, Jakobs right, there are several Jakobs. Jakobs wrong.

the pic of yours. is the reason how and this is why our monotheistic desert death cult is better than anyone else

Nice meme, Omar

try me fgt

The question was not about when, but how and why

"it says how"
It really doesn't, it just state that a national god was developed that adopted the titles of the previous existing patriarchal deities, it doesn't explain the origin

Don't buy it, I'm reading about right now and there's no clear indication where Yah or Yahweh comes from

>caette proposes theory about yahweh originating as a war god of the ugaritic/canaanite pantheon
>look into the matter and come up with different theory about yahweh originating in Edom as a weather god
>no you are always wrong because you are christian
10/10 top arguing skills mate

>state nothing like that
>don't even deny monotheism's origin in paganism
>caette still shitposts like there's no tomorrow

see you in hell fgt

:^)

I'm not holding that thumb/finger up anyway.

still funy though

That's a thumb

thumbs are fingers

So then believe I am holding up 3 fingers.

everybody with half a brain cell knows hitler did nothing wrong but lose the war

lol stormfag

lol cryptojew

You're of jewish heritage as well?

Moshe is that you? Its me Ira Goldberg!

Oy vey

השפה שלהם היא מכוערת כמו שהם

אנחנו הם אלה שבחר

אנחנו היו מלכים וכל חרא

שֶׁקֶט!הגויים צופים

לא אאחר לבית הכנסת ביום שני, הרב יגלה העלילה החדשה שלו להשמדת הגזע הלבן

למחוק את זה, הגויים יראו !!!

That refers to the roman government

but the verse right after it talks about keeping your dept of love for one another and the one before it says "Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good". isnt this meant only for the people at the time or for everyone?

You have to understand that Paulus wrote this in a time of Jewish extremism, by telling his fellow Christans, the Jewish Dispora community in Rome to be exact, to not oppose Roman rule Paulus wants to secure the image of Christianity being a seperate religion to Judaism and not just Jewish sect so the Christians in Rome and elsewhere would not suffer persecution for being supposed Zealots

What caused you to become a Catholic? I'm not sure what the term cradle Catholic means.

Since that guy's a huge cunt and won't even answer the most simple questions I had to look it up, cradle catholic means someone who was baptized at birth opposed to someone who converted later in his life like me for example

cheers m8

Hi Davidavidson

The question is how "authentic" the bible should be taken as.

Also, wouldn't "you can be god" contradict the passages where god doesn't want the different tribes of the prophets to have any other gods than him?

If it doesn't make sense to you i wouldn' recommend believing in it. How else are you gonna tell right and wrong apart?

For additional questions, just hit me up man.

You want additional questions?

My town of 500 is ran by 5th generation Fr33M4sons who's ancestors built this town... My dad moved us out here and he built a enclosed convent for nuns right in the middle of town because the previous parish priests and bishops have been trying to counteract the pagan shit going on in this town for close to a century. I'm not even bullshitting u man. This is some spiritual warfare my family and I have been dealing with since we moved out here in '94. Thanks for listening. Not sure if you have any experience with it but they fucking HATE Catholic Cowans with a passion. I'm getting confirmed in a while because I've put it off this long and can't really wait any longer.

idiot

>don't be a Catholic, too many silly stuff

I'm saving this

*tip*
Do as however you please, m'lady

Yes and I'm 3/4 through the talmud.

You are also fucking autistic by saying we worship idols. You and Whitechino need to quit watching Comedy Central News.

First of all what the hell is a cradle catholic?
"These Kabbalahist kikes basically are saying you can be god"
I'm pretty sure no jew claims that

Yeah, you need to use google for every line you just typed there.

Autismo Max, fam.

I don't have to do shit, mate

that's a pretty ebin maymay fam.

You need to stfu and read up on Judaic Kabbal and why they have a fucking Hexagram on their flag, you retarded cunt.

Get the fuck off this board if you are unironically retarded.

You should confess how much of a bitch your are tomorrow
Anyway whatever you're saying about Jesus and the Kabbalah is pretty much bullshit, to "be god" is in any Abrahamic faith and esotericism the non plus ultra of heresy, maybe you're mistaking that with the Jewish attempt to become like God i.e. imitating Him

>Get the fuck off this board if you are unironically retarded
Mate, I've been longer on this board than you I know how things work here