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#3046 - GenChris (07/04/2012) [-]
Naziism
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User avatar #3064 to #3046 - airguitar (07/04/2012) [-]
The problem with Socialist Nationalism is that is it is based on the principle that "The ENDS justify the MEANS".

This means that Nazis can do whatever they want, in their minds, as long as the achieve their ending goal. In the case of NAzi Germany that involved killing Millions of Jews, blacks, gypsies, and gays. That's why it is such a terrible for of government.
#3110 to #3064 - ginginhunter (07/05/2012) [-]
Youre talking about progressive Socialist Nazinalism , i personally think he's speaking about non progressive , without the racism and neverending slaughter ,

personally , i would like to know you opinion on non progressive Nazism , "Fascism"
only because ive already had a convo with you and you are a very smart man
User avatar #3143 to #3110 - airguitar (07/05/2012) [-]
I believe if you build a country/civilization you need to build it for the PEOPLE. Fascism is built upon the belief that you are trying to build a strong state/ nation. This is not much different than what I mentioned, the ends still justify the means. Fascist countries don't care about individuals or their rights, they only care about what makes the state stronger. This is not much different than slavery, the people serve the nation in return for defense- if the people are not benefiting the state or they oppose it, they are whipped like slaves.

I can't pretend I know all that much about fascism because I haven't really studied it specifically yet. Regardless of how it is structured, Fascism is about building a "Strong" nation, and that involves war. War is destructive, not productive- an economy can not be strong when a nation is constantly at war (regardless of what many people think).

Regardless of what kind of Socialist Nationalism, a society can not be built upon "The ends justify the means". That does not create a just society, that is why most of the court systems in the world are built upon "The means justifying the ends", where as long as the process is just- the end is deemed just also. Feel free to correct me on anything, I feel like I'm missing something.
User avatar #3151 to #3143 - arisaka (07/05/2012) [-]
Agreed. Disregarding human rights and generally the people will always lead to revolution or a coup.
User avatar #3051 to #3046 - ginginhunter (07/04/2012) [-]
As i said before , Socialist Nazionalism (its full name) is a straight path to an economic downfall , progressive or not , non progressive is as we know it today is called Fascism

Got it ?
User avatar #3052 to #3051 - ginginhunter (07/04/2012) [-]
And im saying it as an ordinary man , not as an anarchist
User avatar #3048 to #3046 - derran (07/04/2012) [-]
Boring and relies so heavily on a single charismatic leader and efficient propaganda, that and the people need to be desperate to look to either extremes.
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