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#2687 - arisaka (06/29/2012) [-]
>People bitching about how healthcare is unconstitutional
>U.S Constitution is a 300 year old document
>The relevance of said document in modern society is nil

You either adapt or you die. That's nature, folks. Maybe if you could somehow AMEND it...

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#2788 to #2687 - largenintimidating (07/01/2012) [-]
The idea that it can't be changed at all is fucking crazy. The Founding Fathers created Amendments because they knew that it might be a good idea to tweak it a little at some point.

the idea that it has no relevance is even crazier.
User avatar #2964 to #2788 - arisaka (07/02/2012) [-]
What I'm saying is that it has to be changed. Obviously some parts of it are going to be outdated, and that's what amendments are for? Besides, I over dramatize things for humorous purposes. I guess people can't tell sarcasm when they see it.

Universal health care works. But America clearly isn't ready for it because of their shitty mentality, and that's a shame for all of the people who want change and progress, even if obamacare is shit.
User avatar #2731 to #2687 - politicsarefun (06/30/2012) [-]
What needs to be changed and how in your mind?
#2728 to #2687 - repostsrepost (06/30/2012) [-]
Are you kidding me? The Constitution is the supreme law of the land. If it has no relevance to modern society then I guess individual liberty and rule of law are outdated ideas. Without the Constitution we have a lawless government. It will always lead to authoritarianism. Though it is sad today that not even the high court can stand in between the statist political elite and our liberty.
#2691 to #2687 - reaganomix (06/29/2012) [-]
>Hippocratic oath   
>2400 year old oath   
>Still taken by doctors   
   
You either adapt or....
>Hippocratic oath
>2400 year old oath
>Still taken by doctors

You either adapt or....
User avatar #2693 to #2691 - bechante **User deleted account** (06/29/2012) [-]
The Hippocratic Oath has been modified to suit our modern needs since it was first created. There was a clause in the original prohibiting prospective doctors from having sex with their patients - needless to say, we don't have that clause anymore, because it's just an expectation of society that that won't happen. Besides that, the Oath is not a binding contract - just a tradition upon med school graduation. Graduates may opt out of taking it.
User avatar #2696 to #2693 - reaganomix (06/29/2012) [-]
Fuck, I knew that was a flimsy argument (might have helped if I actually knew something about become a practicing doctor)

The Constitution is still relevant though. If the constitution is ignored then the government can make as many stupid decisions as it can. The government is a judicial monopoly, so without restraints it can do anything it wants.
User avatar #2698 to #2696 - bechante **User deleted account** (06/30/2012) [-]
Oh, yeah, I wasn't saying the Constitution isn't relevant; I was just bustin' your balls. There's really a parallel there about how we've updated the Hippocratic Oath - because we amend the Constitution and pass laws through the Elastic Clause and at a state-level with the Ninth Amendment.

Our Constitution is, and was designed to be, highly adaptable, far-reaching, and above all else, EXTREMELY modular. People today don't realize that.

btw, love your username ;)
#2702 to #2698 - N. Korean citizen (06/30/2012) [-]
However, some parts of it were meant to be set in stone.

Specifically the Bill of Rights.
User avatar #2704 to #2702 - bechante **User deleted account** (06/30/2012) [-]
Yeah, that's true, and those amendments are sometimes getting walked on, today, and the Supreme Court doesn't seem to care, either.
User avatar #2688 to #2687 - arisaka (06/29/2012) [-]
*I still think obamacare is shit-tier though, don't get me wrong.
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