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User avatar #1717 - unhappyspanners (06/20/2012) [-]
What are people's views and opinions on the Falkland Island dispute?
#1785 to #1717 - Mentoman (06/21/2012) [-]
Let the people decide.
User avatar #1829 to #1785 - unhappyspanners (06/21/2012) [-]
They want to remain British.
User avatar #1832 to #1829 - lecherouslad (06/21/2012) [-]
But the Argentinians don't.
User avatar #1833 to #1832 - unhappyspanners (06/21/2012) [-]
The people on the Islands want to remain British, why should the Argentinians turf them out? This whole issue was solved after the war when it was agreed Britain should govern them.
User avatar #1834 to #1833 - lecherouslad (06/21/2012) [-]
The Islands are a vestige of Imperialism in the world as a Crown Colony; wouldn't you agree Imperialism is wrong? The Brits only USE the Falklands as an Oil field. I also support the unification of Ireland for the same concerns.
User avatar #1835 to #1834 - unhappyspanners (06/21/2012) [-]
Not when it isn't Imperialism. Argentina wants to take the Islands, despite what the inhabitants actually want, to me that is colonialism. The Islands have been British since 1866 I believe, I don't think Oil was their concern back then.
Again with Northern Ireland, the majority voted to remain under British control because they were mostly Protestants and they saw the benefits, and the stability, of letting a major power help them.
User avatar #1836 to #1835 - lecherouslad (06/21/2012) [-]
"The majority" of an Isolated vote. The partition only debilitated the ROI, by excluding the industrial north, giving Britain economic control over the ROI.
User avatar #1838 to #1836 - unhappyspanners (06/21/2012) [-]
The industrial North voted to remain the in the Union, the South didn't - that isn't the fault of the English/British. It seems to me that you just hate the fact that Great Britain has overseas territories.
User avatar #1839 to #1838 - lecherouslad (06/21/2012) [-]
I do. I believe manipulating others for your personal gain is morally unjust.
Of course the north voted for union with Britain, the Brits only asked the Protestants! Besides that, Carson, the leader of a prominent Protestant terrorist organization, threatened violence to those who voted for acceding to the ROI.
User avatar #1840 to #1839 - unhappyspanners (06/21/2012) [-]
How are they manipulating the Falklanders? or the Northern Irish? If they didn't want Britain to govern them, a referendum would be held and sovereignty would be passed to the preferred nation. But they want to be British, then and now.
Are you American by any chance?
User avatar #1841 to #1840 - lecherouslad (06/21/2012) [-]
"It's all about oil"-unhappyspanners
How are they manipulating? how about being treated as second class citizens in their own homes, and rights abuses beyond counting.
What does my Nationality matter? what an odd tangent to take the discussion, when I was speaking of manipulating others and the Partition, I fail to see the relevance.
User avatar #1842 to #1841 - unhappyspanners (06/21/2012) [-]
And then the last part of my comment which you seem to have failed to read...
Hang on, we're talking about the Falklands and Northern Ireland here, not America in the 60's. The people there didn't have their rights restricted and they were in no way "second class citizens". You fail to see that the majority in N.Ireland wanted to remain governed by Britain and they still do. If we were as you truly see us, we wouldn't have let the ROI leave, would we? It's all about self-determination.
Why hide it? How odd... And because if you do happen to be American, it'll clear some things up. The blind hatred for the UK and it's overseas territories, for one.
User avatar #1843 to #1842 - lecherouslad (06/21/2012) [-]
Blind hatred? I think not. Because I spoke about a concern of mine involving the UK, doesn't mean I hate it.
you've obviously never been to Northern Ireland if you presume to tell me that British rule is benevolent and benign, Ask anyone in Fermanagh and they'll tell you the same. You can claim "Majority" all you'd like,it's easy, especially when you only take opinion polls from the Unionist side of the Peace Line.
My Nationality is my own concern, It doesn't change my views or the validity of my statements.
User avatar #1844 to #1843 - unhappyspanners (06/21/2012) [-]
And then ignoring that. I like how you pick and choose evidence to support you.
Listen, ignore Northern Ireland, they can have a referendum and leave. My point is the Falklands. It's British territory and it should remain so.
User avatar #1846 to #1844 - lecherouslad (06/21/2012) [-]
Well my point is Northern Ireland, you must be afflicted with autism if you can't see that. I have specifically centered the polemic around Northern Ireland; if you're not interested in the discussion, the solution is simple, quit posting.
in regard to you saying "And then ignoring that", isn't this picking and choosing?
User avatar #1847 to #1846 - unhappyspanners (06/21/2012) [-]
My question was regarding the dispute about the Falklands: if you want to discuss Northern Ireland piss off and create your own thread. You must be downright mentally retarded if you cannot see that this thread (my thread) is about the Falkland Islands.
#1744 to #1717 - largenintimidating (06/20/2012) [-]
The population are pretty much exclusively English-speaking people who identify thesmelves as Brits, and would vote overwhelmingly for the UK in a referendum.

Argentina has never controlled the islands outside of that few week period in 1982, just claimed them since independence and bitched about the UK not giving them the islands "because they're meanies".

TL;DR: Britain owns those islands by every definition of rightful ownership in the book. Argentina is just a bitch.
User avatar #1746 to #1744 - unhappyspanners (06/20/2012) [-]
I agree with you, I'm English myself, and I believe that Europeans were the first to discover and land on the Falklands.
User avatar #1810 to #1746 - fidelito (06/21/2012) [-]
Spaniards are European too, you know.
I agree the Falklands should remain British btw.
User avatar #1828 to #1810 - unhappyspanners (06/21/2012) [-]
I never said they weren't?
User avatar #1870 to #1828 - fidelito (06/22/2012) [-]
You said Europeans were the first to land on the Falklands. You didn't specify if they were British or Spanish, in the latter case it'd make them originally Argentinian.
User avatar #1873 to #1870 - unhappyspanners (06/22/2012) [-]
I didn't say any specific nationality because the first settlers of the Falklands is a mystery. Some say the British had a small fishing base there before anyone else and some say Portuguese and Spaniards were there before anyone else. Some even say the Dutch landed there first.
User avatar #1874 to #1873 - fidelito (06/22/2012) [-]
I'm sorry, I don't think we understand eachother. I'm confused why you said Europeans were the first there.
I'll just leave this conversation since we agree with each other. No matter who was there first, it's the people who currently reside there that should choose.
User avatar #1875 to #1874 - unhappyspanners (06/22/2012) [-]
Because they were. And stating a nationality would be silly, seeing as people can't seem to agree on who was there first.
User avatar #1876 to #1875 - fidelito (06/22/2012) [-]
But saying that is totally irrelevant. Remember that Argentinians are just descendants of Spaniards with some other nationalities and native Americans* in the mix.

*as in continent, not USA
User avatar #1718 to #1717 - unhappyspanners (06/20/2012) [-]
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