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#83107 to #83102 - anonymous (6 hours ago) [-]
I thought this thread was generally in favor of business owners being allowed to ban patrons for arbitrary reasons.
#83108 to #83107 - anonymous (5 hours ago) [-]
I believe private business owners should be allowed to reject service to whoever they please.

This is obviously extremely hypocritical though. A pizza shop owner hypothetically says he wouldn't want to serve a gay wedding due to his faith and the leftists relentlessly act like animals. A bike shop says they've banned men and it's all totally swell. I recall seeing an article a while ago about a barbershop owner who banned women from his shop and he had to deal with bomb threats and vandalism.

Libcucks love their double-think.
#83109 to #83108 - anonymous (4 hours ago) [-]
If this goes down like Memories Pizza.

"Oh noes guise. We're getting threatening phone calls and mean online comments. Instead of contacting the police and actually letting someone comb over these, we're just gonna shut the doors of our business right now."

But wait, brave crowdfunding activists to the rescue!

JK guys, we're still open. Thanks for the hundreds of thousands of dollars.
#83104 to #83102 - youregaylol (7 hours ago) [-]
why would a male ever ride a bike anyway
#83105 to #83104 - anonymous (7 hours ago) [-]
He might need a ride to go fuck your bitch
#83106 to #83105 - youregaylol (7 hours ago) [-]
well at least i know she wont be pregnant considering the seats crush your testicles
User avatar #83088 - feelythefeel (14 hours ago) [-]
Snickers Speedwalker Ad Liberalism took this ad off the air.

Fucking kikes, this would have been better than the feature presentation.
User avatar #83103 to #83088 - lulzforalpsplane (8 hours ago) [-]
...are you fucking kidding me...
#83093 to #83088 - anonymous (13 hours ago) [-]
The purpose of advertising is to attract consumers.

After finding out that some consumers found the advertisement distasteful, Mars pulled it.

I don't really see the big deal.
User avatar #83096 to #83093 - marinepenguin ONLINE (12 hours ago) [-]
The big deal to me is that enough people thought it was distasteful to where they pulled the ad to save face.

It shows that we're becoming too sensitive to dumb stuff like this.

Since when has it become "distasteful" to make fun of a guy who looks ridiculous while power walking.
User avatar #83090 to #83088 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (14 hours ago) [-]
They need to get some nuts.
#83089 to #83088 - anonymous (14 hours ago) [-]
New Bell's South Africa TV Ad -- The Reader
User avatar #83094 to #83089 - mixednuts (13 hours ago) [-]
Nando's: Last dictator standing Are South African ads usually this great?
#83081 - pebar (21 hours ago) [-]
after nelson mandella's leftist policies destroyed south africa's economy and shot unemployment rates into the 20s, the people are protesting and blaming the unemployment on immigrants

nazifags, what do you think about restricting immigration from people of your own race?
#83083 to #83081 - schnizel ONLINE (17 hours ago) [-]
Europe for Europeans, each European land for a European people and the problem is solved.
User avatar #83087 to #83083 - marinepenguin ONLINE (15 hours ago) [-]
User avatar #83095 to #83087 - lulzforalpsplane (12 hours ago) [-]
You're god damn fucking right it is, fucking niggers trying to take my homeland.
#83097 to #83095 - anonymous (9 hours ago) [-]
>Implying Jews wouldn't be the Dunmer
Come on, they're greedy, ancient, fiercely tribal, and kept slaves for longer than anyone else
User avatar #83101 to #83097 - lulzforalpsplane (8 hours ago) [-]
Well I wasn't referring to a group of people in real life, I was talking about my feelings about a fuckin game, idiot.
#83084 to #83083 - youregaylol (16 hours ago) [-]
what about european colonies, how do we divide that up
User avatar #83085 to #83084 - schnizel ONLINE (16 hours ago) [-]
By the peoples that settled there.
User avatar #83079 - pebar (04/17/2015) [-]
TL;DR - Universities Don't Understand Safe Spaces
User avatar #83086 to #83079 - marinepenguin ONLINE (15 hours ago) [-]
Is killing off these people an option?
#83077 - lulzforalpsplane (04/17/2015) [-]
These polandball comics always manage to make me feel bad for countries. I think it's the faces.
#83074 - anonymous (04/17/2015) [-]
Apparently in Mali you can choose your tax bracket, should you sign up to pay taxes at all. You can also pay your taxes in rams.

Is that like Libertarian-ish?
#83053 - lulzforalpsplane (04/16/2015) [-]
I know a lot of people here like me have just always been told to believe the Iraq War was a terrible thing and only muh neocons would ever think it was good but I would like to see an actual argument going on. We all know it really didn't benefit the U.S economy, but what I'm looking to see more is if there was justification and a good reason to help Iraq? this isnt about whether america should help other countries but more of if it was justified at the time . Was it purely for oil? If so where is the proof?

There was a little argument between marinepenguin and kanadetenshi but the later didn't bring any arguments aside from "omg stop its so obvious".
User avatar #83091 to #83053 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (14 hours ago) [-]
Pretty much everyone agrees it's not justified since it was based around lies. The discussion is whether it was bad, i think it was based on the fact that it not only collapsed the US economic but it made Iraq in a worse state and with more terrorists than it was prior.
User avatar #83092 to #83091 - marinepenguin ONLINE (13 hours ago) [-]
Regardless of whether it was justified or not. It only put Iraq in a worse state because we didn't do the job properly.

If we hadn't pulled out from 2007-2011 and Obama listened to our military advisors, Iraq would not only be intact, but organisations like ISIS wouldn't have been able to spread the way they did.

I'm not saying Iraq would be a first world country or anything, but it would be going in an opposite direction as it is now.
User avatar #83075 to #83053 - marinepenguin ONLINE (04/17/2015) [-]
Most people have problems with the fact that we claimed they had WMDs, and that's why we invaded. But they forget that we had been trying to get UN inspectors into their nation so that they could prove to us "hey we have no illegal WMDs in our country", but they refused for well over a decade. Then when they invade Kuwait, the UN sees an opportunity to get rid of a brutal dictator and then possible negate the chance of WMDs within Iraq.

After the coalition was formed and waiting in Saudi Arabia for 14 MONTHS, transport vehicles went between Iraq and Syria the entire time. Any serious WMDs Saddam had, disappeared.

Then take into account we found biological weaponry loaded into artillery shells ready to fire, each shell capable of killing a third of a million people, worse if used on a major population center.

I've never said the Bush Administration was totally honest, they pushed some theories as facts to try and ultimately remove Saddam, but saying we had no business in Iraq and we invaded without pretense and just oil rights is utter insanity and ignorance of history.
User avatar #83070 to #83053 - redandgreen (04/16/2015) [-]
The only definite thing is it's the fault of the British.
User avatar #83082 to #83072 - redandgreen (19 hours ago) [-]
Britain created the country of Iraq.
User avatar #83060 to #83053 - akkere (04/16/2015) [-]
It'd probably be difficult to prove, but I always figured the main reason George W. Bush pushed to hard to direct some of the flame towards Iraq was because he felt he needed to "finish the job" his father, H.W. had done with Kuwait and such, so it was more him doing personal involvement through the military, as his father was heavily involved in the issue between Saddam's regime and Kuwait. Not to mention the fact that a dozen of men who were working for Saddam attempted to assassinate H.W. early on as well, so that probably lit a flame somewhere down the line.
But that's simply conjecture based on an observation of events surrounding the issue, not exactly the proof you'd be looking for.
User avatar #83058 to #83053 - redandgreen (04/16/2015) [-]
The Project for the New American Century had been pressuring for an invasion of Iraq since 1998 (or before).

Some of the prominent people in the group were also members of the Bush administration and had links to companies who stood to profit from the military campaign and/or contracts in the aftermath.

You're right in saying neither the Iraqis or American people did well economically out of war. Who did?


User avatar #83055 to #83053 - pebar (04/16/2015) [-]
the only thing that bugs me is when people confuse the iraq war with the war n terror
they are two separate things
User avatar #83057 to #83055 - redandgreen (04/16/2015) [-]
For my benefit could you explain why they are separate please?
User avatar #83063 to #83057 - akkere (04/16/2015) [-]
"War on Terror" defines the initiative against the terrorists behind the Twin Tower attacks of 9/11, i.e. The Taliban, Al Qeada, and Osama Bin Laden.
The Iraq War was a war that was focused on Saddam Hussein's regime under an entirely different pretense; Hussein had no involvement in the 9/11 attacks and there was actually no (major) presence of Al Qeada in the country (hardened dictators tend to be pretty good at maintaining their territory, especially when they have no qualms with who they kill in the process).
User avatar #83065 to #83063 - redandgreen (04/16/2015) [-]
I agree with you that there wasn't a link but the Bush administration said that there was.
User avatar #83054 to #83053 - radiserne (04/16/2015) [-]
It wasn't justified, since it was based on a lie. However, that does not mean it was bad.
#83047 - pebar (04/16/2015) [-]
So what are you all doing  for holocaust remembrance day to respect the 6 million jews who died at the hands of the nazis?
So what are you all doing for holocaust remembrance day to respect the 6 million jews who died at the hands of the nazis?
User avatar #83076 to #83047 - feelythefeel (04/17/2015) [-]
Trying to beat their high score.
User avatar #83071 to #83047 - alicorn (04/16/2015) [-]
hitler did nothing wrong
#83061 to #83047 - akkere (04/16/2015) [-]
I'm just trimming up some dank Star Wars reaction webms at light speeds.   
I call this one, "Anakin Takes out ISIS".    
 Figured people here might get a kick out of this one
I'm just trimming up some dank Star Wars reaction webms at light speeds.
I call this one, "Anakin Takes out ISIS".
Figured people here might get a kick out of this one
User avatar #83050 to #83047 - radiserne (04/16/2015) [-]
Watching Superbad.
User avatar #83073 to #83050 - lulzforalpsplane (04/17/2015) [-]
gud movie, I really recommend
The Wolf on Wall street
21 n 22 Jump Street
for more Jonah Hill
User avatar #83080 to #83073 - radiserne (04/17/2015) [-]
Already watched them, big big fan.
#83048 to #83047 - schnizel ONLINE (04/16/2015) [-]
User avatar #83046 to #83042 - niggernazi (04/16/2015) [-]
Islam is litterally the cancer of our christian motherland aka erupor. Muzzies have no fucking place here at all. They are the litteral scum that consumes Europe piece by piece. Hitler will raise from the dead.


#83044 to #83042 - niggernazi (04/16/2015) [-]

Russian Navy vs Somalia pirates
User avatar #83045 to #83044 - niggernazi (04/16/2015) [-]
Landser - Sturmführer

Oooops, wrong video lol
User avatar #83043 to #83042 - schnizel ONLINE (04/16/2015) [-]
Oh the iron E
#83040 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (04/16/2015) [-]
Her palms are sweaty, polls are weak, e-mails are heavy
There's scandals on her campaign already: mom's Benghazi
She's nervous, but on the surface she looks calm and ready
To increase Benghazi security, but she keeps on forgetting
#82994 - lulzforalpsplane (04/16/2015) [-]
Why did the U.S government not get oil from Iraq for liberating them? Because at that time that is technically what you guys did with Saddam, regardless of what happened later a lot of people were happy with his downfall and an attempt at a democratic government. So it only seems fair that Iraq pay its debt through oil for America sacrificing trillions of dollars and thousands of lives.
User avatar #83039 to #82994 - akkere (04/16/2015) [-]
Why would the U.S. government expect the Iraqi to pay anything at all? The people never asked for the war; they received untold amounts of collateral damage in the process of establishing a "democratic government", including providing an opening for Al Qeada to spread into the region.

Besides, does anyone have the right to just go ahead and fix someone else's problem and then charge them, even if they never asked specifically to have the problem fixed? Especially if they paid in their own way in terms of collateral damage? That's not much different than how the different mafia groups started out by going around businesses and establishing territory through extorting them to pay for them to be protected by the respective dominant mob.
User avatar #82998 to #82994 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (04/16/2015) [-]
No thinking person would even remotely agree that the Iraq war was a good thing.
User avatar #83051 to #82998 - lulzforalpsplane (04/16/2015) [-]
I think you purposefully ignored what I said but ok.
User avatar #83014 to #82998 - marinepenguin ONLINE (04/16/2015) [-]
It was a good and necessary thing. Obama is mostly responsible for the mess in Iraq right now.
User avatar #82999 to #82998 - radiserne (04/16/2015) [-]
The Iraqi people were much better off without him. Many showed gratitude after he was overthrown. Building a democracy afterwards was as much the Iraqis' responsibility as it was the Americans'. And building a democracy after many years has never been an easy task. The hate towards the Iraq War is nothing but leftist propaganda, and saying it was bad is just plain retarded. People have forgotten what Saddam actually did. He was the Idi Amin of the middle east.
User avatar #83003 to #82999 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (04/16/2015) [-]
Not to forget that it is the US who has created more terrorists in the middle east than anyone else through constant oppression, pressure and funding.
User avatar #83002 to #82999 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (04/16/2015) [-]
America's war mongering has not only caused more civilian deaths than Saddam Hussein but even after he was captured the US would still continue war mongering.

The fact is that the sole reason the Iraq war even started war because of a blatant lie by Dubya that has resulted in the death, oppression and terrorist creation of neoconservatives.
User avatar #83015 to #83002 - marinepenguin ONLINE (04/16/2015) [-]
Bush didn't lie. We found stockpiled chemical and biological weapons, some in artillery shells ready to fire.

Plus in the 14 month period that Saddam knew we were coming and forming the coalition, he had a constant stream of trucks moving between his weapons facilities and Syria. So it's incredibly likely that any serious stuff he had left the country.
User avatar #83016 to #83015 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (04/16/2015) [-]
He was talking about Weapons of Mass Destruction, a blatant lie. Just stop, even conservatives acknowledge what Bush did was wrong....just stop.
User avatar #83019 to #83016 - marinepenguin ONLINE (04/16/2015) [-]
So chemical weapons with the ability to kill 300,000 people with one bomb isn't considered a WMD?

User avatar #83020 to #83019 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (04/16/2015) [-]

Now you're just embarassing yourself
User avatar #83023 to #83020 - marinepenguin ONLINE (04/16/2015) [-]
Are you even aware that Iraq was not even a US decision? It was a UN coalition, that we were asked to participate in.
User avatar #83025 to #83023 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (04/16/2015) [-]
The primary motivation to go to war with Iraq was the lie and frauds of Bush the war criminal and other countries just agreed with it. Bush himself was the one who suggested and initiated it to the UN.
User avatar #83028 to #83025 - marinepenguin ONLINE (04/16/2015) [-]
User avatar #83006 to #83002 - radiserne (04/16/2015) [-]
"Muh evil US"
inb4 they only went there for the oil. Fact is that Saddam was an evil son of a bitch that systematically killed hundreds of thousands og innocent iraqies, and infact killed more innocents than the US did. Blaming US for all the problems in the middle east is down right retarded.
User avatar #83008 to #83006 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (04/16/2015) [-]
Innocent civilians murdered under US invasion estimate from 100,000 to a million. This doesn't include the hundred thousands that died due to UN sanctions.


Saddam's death count (Who would've never come into power without US funding) also rank in the millions. But his invasions and time as president has been far longer than the US invasions.
User avatar #83017 to #83008 - marinepenguin ONLINE (04/16/2015) [-]
If you knew anything about the USs Rules of Engagement and our Code of Conduct, you'd know that we essentially fight with our hands and legs tied to prevent civilian casualties. But when you fight an enemy that hides behind civilians and uses children as shields, it's difficult sometimes.
User avatar #83018 to #83017 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (04/16/2015) [-]
Despite the fact that most civilian casualties were not kidnapped or just as shield at all and that the vast majority of Iraqis absolutely hate America for what they did to them. How much more do you have to lie to justify genocide?
User avatar #83021 to #83018 - marinepenguin ONLINE (04/16/2015) [-]
Lie? I have most of my info from

1. Being in the US Air Force

2. Knowing over a dozen guys who personally served over 3 tours in Iraq and Afghanistan.
User avatar #83022 to #83021 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (04/16/2015) [-]
"Guys just believe my anecdotes kay thx"

There are hundeds of veterans who have contradictory anecdotes, including many Iraq veterans who are now anti-war because of the terrible persecution they caused on innocent people.
User avatar #83024 to #83022 - marinepenguin ONLINE (04/16/2015) [-]
Or they're anti-war because they saw children die when they were told to try and throw a grenade at a US convoy.
User avatar #83026 to #83024 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (04/16/2015) [-]
Now you're just trying to reach into batshit stupid hypotheticals to justify child murder. I suggest you seek mental help and stop talking to me.
User avatar #83027 to #83026 - marinepenguin ONLINE (04/16/2015) [-]
You are just as insane if you truly believe we went into Iraq for oil and killing civilians.
User avatar #83010 to #83008 - radiserne (04/16/2015) [-]
There's a difference between collateral damage and deliberate killings of civilians.
User avatar #83011 to #83010 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (04/16/2015) [-]
Ah yes they just "accidentally" caused the systematic murder of a million innocent people, even years after Hussein. Even if it was it only serves at the fact that the US recklessly doing into someone elses war just makes things worse. Like putting salt on an open wound.
User avatar #83034 to #83011 - radiserne (04/16/2015) [-]
"the systematic murder of a million innocent people"
Holy shit, can you be more batshit cray
User avatar #83001 to #82999 - redandgreen (04/16/2015) [-]
That may be true but why should the Iraqi people be expected to pay for an illegal American invasion to remove a dictator which the Americans had previously funded?!
User avatar #83004 to #83001 - radiserne (04/16/2015) [-]
Where did I say that.
User avatar #83005 to #83004 - redandgreen (04/16/2015) [-]
I was commenting on the suggestion from lulz that Iraq should pay for their own invasion. I think the hate toward the Iraq war has a lot to do with it being illegal and the lies about it.
User avatar #83007 to #83005 - radiserne (04/16/2015) [-]
What's done is done. No, they didn't have WMDs, but Saddam was a walking WMD in himself, and he was rightfully removed. Anyone who does not support the overthrownment of Saddam, supports the attempted genocide of thousands of Kurds and the gassing og women and children.
User avatar #83031 to #83007 - redandgreen (04/16/2015) [-]
Do you think the Americans were right to support him and given him WMD in the first place? Wasn't it American gas he used on the Kurds?

Why wasn't he overthrown in the first war?

Why didn't the US get a definite UN resolution?

There were other options than turning the whole country into a slaughterhouse.

User avatar #83033 to #83031 - radiserne (04/16/2015) [-]
"Americans are bad for the Iraq war"
"Why didn't Americans overthrow Saddam in the Gulf War"
No matter what Americans seem to do they come up on top as the bad guys. What has Russia done? What has China done? What has India done? At least US seem to give a shit about oppressive dictators. And if the Iraqi people had cooperated better, it wouldn't have been turned into a slaughterhouse. It wasn't like US soldiers went from door to door and randomly sprayed people.
US wasn't right to support him in the first place, but they wouldn't be right either to walk away from a problem they caused themselves, which seem to be what everyone else is suggesting. All this pacifist bullshit is making me puke. Freedom is not free.
User avatar #83056 to #83033 - redandgreen (04/16/2015) [-]
There was a UN resolution for the first Iraq war and it wasn't just the Americans involved there were lots of countries. There were much less in the second and no legality.

If they were going to do this they needed to send enough soldiers which even they admit they didn't.

They sent in private firms under government contracts and granted them preferential terms. They sent in private security firms under contracts and got them immunity from prosecution. They engaged in torture and collective punishment etc. etc.

The US don't care about oppressive dictators unless they're inconvenient. Take a look at South America and you'll see that the US supported dictators there. They also supported Saddam, the Shah in Iran and the Nationalists in China.

If you're suggesting 'well they're no worse than China or Russia', so what? What's your point?

User avatar #83059 to #83056 - radiserne (04/16/2015) [-]
My point is that China, Russia, and any other country who doesn't share Western values are practically shit. Iraq had the oportunity to build something great after Saddam was overthrown, but the fuckers didn't seize it. That's not America's problem, nor is it their fault. Only reason to why people bash on America, is because they're free to do so, unlike in so many other countries. A freedom that US provides by being what it is; a power that other tyrants don't want to fuck with. Blaming US for the civilian casualities is like blaming Israel for the Gaza casualities. The cunts hid between civilians, they blew themselves up when they had the opportunity, but who gets told they're th bad guys by the end of the day? The guys who wants to help them, who wants to provide them freedom, after decades of living under tyrants.
Fuck. That. Shit.
User avatar #83062 to #83059 - redandgreen (04/16/2015) [-]
Iraq was a country of varying and antagonistic groups made up by the British. The only history of political culture they had was the Baath party which the US dismantled by firing members from their positions after the war.

The US and others didn't provide enough soldiers to maintain security in the absence of the Baath officials and created a power vacuum.

What stepped into the vacuum was the inevitable and foreseeable chaos of removing a strong political culture which had kept a lid on problems and replacing it with nothing.

There just wasn't any transition or even a plan for transition.

As for the US bringing 'freedom' that's extremely dubious - billions of dollars disappeared somewhere, contracts were put upon the Iraqis which favoured corporations with close ties to the Bush administration, the US wrote themselves out of complying with Iraqi laws and the democracy was in the same sense of the Palestinian one - meaning if the US don't like the result it doesn't count.
User avatar #83064 to #83062 - radiserne (04/16/2015) [-]
"a strong political culture which had kept a lid on problems"
By murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent people, destroying any opposition, and attempting genocide on the Kurds. I don't have words for what you just said. I guess removing Hitler was bad aswell.
User avatar #83066 to #83064 - redandgreen (04/16/2015) [-]
Thanks for straw-manning me. But that's not what I said at all.

I'm not arguing that anything Saddam did was right.

The Americans got rid of the army and police because they were former Baathists. There was no Civil authority left and the US and others did not have the numbers to make up for that and keep security.

There was no Civil Society because they'd just had years of dictatorship, war, sanctions and more war. So without an army or police as a civil authority the country collapsed into chaos.
User avatar #83067 to #83066 - radiserne (04/16/2015) [-]
When a society is complete and utter shit, you have to break it down in order to rebuild it. There could have been better solutions but fact remains that the Iraqis showed zero enthusiasm for a new and better future, and now that ISIS is fucking their shit up again, everyone is of course blaming the US again. Cause if you lack geo-political and historical knowledge, what better to do than blame the easiest country in the world to blame. If US wasn't around we'd all be royally fucked. I'm sure that if the US choose to stay out of conflicts from noe on, everyone would be bashing them for being self-centered and not giving a shit about the third world. If I was an American, I'd stick it to everyone else and let them handle their own business, see where that would take them. Fun fact: We can thank the US that all of Europe and possibly the world isn't fascist or communist.
User avatar #83069 to #83067 - redandgreen (04/16/2015) [-]
The US won't stay out of conflicts because it doesn't suit their political elites economic interests to do so.

Fun fact: The US doesn't have any commitment to democracy.

The US doesn't support democracy, it supports expediency, otherwise explain the list below of just some of the countries where the US have supported fascist dictators some past some current:

El Salvador
China and later Taiwan

etc. etc.

That isn't even all of them. Seriously.

User avatar #83009 to #83007 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (04/16/2015) [-]
Anyone who supports the neocon war mongering based on fraud and lies supports the bombing and starving of hundred thousands of innocent Iraqis to stop someone that they personally funded.
User avatar #83000 to #82999 - radiserne (04/16/2015) [-]
Many years of tyranny*
User avatar #82997 to #82994 - marinepenguin ONLINE (04/16/2015) [-]
"We're going to come to your country, depose and dissolve the current government, kill over a half million citizens through warfare, force democracy on you, and then to repay us you'll give us one of your only worthwhile resources for free"

Yeah I'm sure that would have went over well.

I completely support what we did in Iraq, but just look at it from their perspective, we haven't really made anything better, they owe us nothing
User avatar #82995 to #82994 - pebar (04/16/2015) [-]
Was there some contract?
#82986 - anonymous (04/16/2015) [-]
#82978 - pebar (04/15/2015) [-]
Remy: Best Song Ever! (Tax Code Edition) GoRemy
User avatar #82979 to #82978 - lulzforalpsplane (04/15/2015) [-]
Isn't that channel like also very socially liberal? Like catering to the Ferguson thing and trying to be very PC?
User avatar #82980 to #82979 - pebar (04/15/2015) [-]
20 Years of Political Correctness: Q/A with Jonathan Rauch It's a libertarian magazine; they tend to be on the socially liberal side (with a handful of exceptions)
User avatar #82982 to #82980 - lulzforalpsplane (04/15/2015) [-]
Are they pro black man in the Ferguson thing? Because that basically tells me all I need to know.
User avatar #82985 to #82982 - pebar (04/15/2015) [-]
they're anti government systems that allow police to do the things they do
like the drug war
or militarized police

they're not anti black.
if that means they're pro black, fine
User avatar #82988 to #82985 - lulzforalpsplane (04/16/2015) [-]
so did they side with michael brown or not? all i need to hear
User avatar #82989 to #82988 - pebar (04/16/2015) [-]
from my research, most of their articles focus more on police in general like militarization and whether or not cops should wear body cameras

it doesn't look like they took a side
it does seem to be sympathetic to michael brown, though
User avatar #82990 to #82989 - lulzforalpsplane (04/16/2015) [-]
On the police issue, I don't really take one side over another. I go by a issue basis. Cops should definitely wear cameras but I also think they should keep the current rights they have.

Flashbanging a home and hitting a baby with it probably isn't the best idea though
#82975 - anonymous (04/15/2015) [-]
Did you guys hear that Hillary Clinton ate at a Chipoltle in Ohio?
User avatar #82977 to #82975 - pebar (04/15/2015) [-]
#82969 - anonymous (04/15/2015) [-]
White Liberal Protester to Black Cop "You Don’t Understand Racism!"

White liberals need to be sent to concentration camps.
User avatar #83098 to #82969 - klowserpok (9 hours ago) [-]
Classical liberalism wasn't so bad. From what I understand of it, anyways.
The fact that nearly every corner of the new left is marxist/maoist in nature has made it awful though.
I'd also say modern conservatives often have some of the new lefts beliefs, to the point where it doesn't even make sense to call them social conservatives.
User avatar #82981 to #82969 - titsmccracken ONLINE (04/15/2015) [-]
Thanks, I guess I'll get ready for the gas chamber even though I don't take part in the SJW bullshit.
User avatar #82972 to #82969 - redandgreen (04/15/2015) [-]
No they don't. There's just a problem in some of these colleges where people are ignoring facts in favour of ideology.
User avatar #82991 to #82972 - undeadwill (04/16/2015) [-]
User avatar #82983 to #82972 - lulzforalpsplane (04/15/2015) [-]
You probably shouldn't be admitting to being a liberal, that opens you up to a lot of generalization and stupidity.
#82973 to #82972 - anonymous (04/15/2015) [-]
>White female telling a black male who grew up in the south while Jim Crow laws still existed that he doesn't understand racism

This type of behavior is becoming mainstream. I see it all the time, not just from self-loathing hipster college kids. It's concentration camp worthy
User avatar #82974 to #82973 - redandgreen (04/15/2015) [-]
I agree it's absolutely stupid and massively ironic that she's telling him how he should feel about racism. I'm not sure it's that widespread though.

I don't think anything is concentration camp worthy.
User avatar #82948 - studbeefpile (04/15/2015) [-]
Apparently Hilary's campaign logo is straight up 9/11.

User avatar #82956 to #82948 - lulzforalpsplane (04/15/2015) [-]
User avatar #82958 to #82956 - studbeefpile (04/15/2015) [-]
that sounds like something a SHILL would say!
User avatar #82960 to #82958 - lulzforalpsplane (04/15/2015) [-]
LOL calling me of all people a shill
GTFO Newfag
User avatar #82961 to #82960 - studbeefpile (04/15/2015) [-]
I know who you are, dingbat. It was a fucking joke.
User avatar #82962 to #82961 - lulzforalpsplane (04/15/2015) [-]
ur jokes r bad fagget
User avatar #82964 to #82962 - studbeefpile (04/15/2015) [-]
I'm sorry my sense of humor doesn't cater specifically to you.
User avatar #82966 to #82964 - lulzforalpsplane (04/15/2015) [-]
i accept ur apology
User avatar #82949 to #82948 - schnizel ONLINE (04/15/2015) [-]
User avatar #82952 to #82951 - schnizel ONLINE (04/15/2015) [-]
top kek
#82946 - niggernazi (04/15/2015) [-]
Hello leftie cultural marxist fags, tell me again why we should infest our aryan motherland aka europe with inbred mongrels from the middle east/apefrica
#82967 to #82946 - anonymous (04/15/2015) [-]
Not a lefty, but the original argument for immigration was that it would increase the work force to help provide the money needed for pensions.

One problem was that the unskilled immigrants would take the jobs that teenagers would usually do, forcing some them out of the work force. Teens with less experience in the workforce aren't hired as rapidly as those with it

Second problem: many immigrants are recipients of welfare. The government provides their welfare from - guess what!- tax money. Obviously, this makes it counter intuitive to want more immigrants when the prime reason for allowing their immigration here was to increase taxes so the government could provide pensions/social services.

Third problem: Assimilation. When of a significantly different ethnic, cultural, or religious background compared to the native population, immigrants can't assimilate properly within a short time. Cultural and ethnic homogeneity make for a more peaceful society. If the immigrant population growth is larger than the fertility rates of the natives, the natives will end up losing their nation.
User avatar #82996 to #82967 - pebar (04/16/2015) [-]
1. not really; more workers > more economy > more jobs, as long as you're not flooding the labor force

2. agreed

3. I agree that cultural differences may be objectionable, but I disagree that it's a huge problem. People with similar cultures tend to voluntarily self-segregate because they have more in common with each than everyone else.
Crime rates are a different story.
The infertility bit is a non issue because that would take a bajillion years to make a difference.
#83099 to #82996 - anonymous (9 hours ago) [-]
1. I agree, I was just saying that saturation of unskilled labor prevents some youths from getting jobs. Well, automation plays a part too, but that's another issue entirely.

2." Oh no, we're running out of money for social services! Lets import poor people who'll need welfare and likely education and housing provided for them out of our money! So we can collect more taxes! "

3. Actually, if a native population has a lower fertility rate than one which is immigrating, it could only take 1 or 2 hundred years. North America is a good example, though not exactly the same as whats happening in Europe, since the Africans and Muslims aren't actually slaughtering the Europeans en mass (yet).
User avatar #82984 to #82967 - lulzforalpsplane (04/15/2015) [-]
I wanna hear pebar 's thoughts on this
#82943 - anonymous (04/15/2015) [-]
#82944 to #82943 - anonymous (04/15/2015) [-]
i wonder whose behind this post
#82933 - youregaylol (04/15/2015) [-]
jews niggers and gays

you can wipe out 2 of these groups but the third group will immigrate to your country en masse
User avatar #82940 to #82933 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (04/15/2015) [-]
Jews and Niggers. Gays immigrating would only benefit me.
User avatar #82950 to #82940 - schnizel ONLINE (04/15/2015) [-]
You're a faggot?
User avatar #82959 to #82950 - lulzforalpsplane (04/15/2015) [-]
It's a fucking tranny remember?
User avatar #83012 to #82959 - schnizel ONLINE (04/16/2015) [-]
#82941 to #82940 - youregaylol (04/15/2015) [-]
User avatar #82939 to #82933 - schnizel ONLINE (04/15/2015) [-]
jews and niggers
Gays are shit when it comes to combat, unless they are Greek Homos.
User avatar #82934 to #82933 - lulzforalpsplane (04/15/2015) [-]
I wanna pick Jews and niggers because deep inside I know a lot of Jews are harmful to society (not all ofc) but if I let gays come here in mass waves Canadia would only become even more progressive. So for Canada I would say gays and niggers eliminate. This question makes less sense for my country since we have like 1% blacks.

For America though I would go with niggers for sure and most likely Jews.
User avatar #82945 to #82934 - radiserne (04/15/2015) [-]
Why are jews harmful?
User avatar #82947 to #82945 - schnizel ONLINE (04/15/2015) [-]
Usury, banking, pedophilia, propaganda, degeneracy, etc.
User avatar #82963 to #82947 - radiserne (04/15/2015) [-]
So, like everybody else?
#83013 to #82963 - schnizel ONLINE (04/16/2015) [-]
Not really, no.
User avatar #83029 to #83013 - radiserne (04/16/2015) [-]
If you get fooled into taking a loan with an abusive interest rate, you're inferior to that person.
#83030 to #83029 - schnizel ONLINE (04/16/2015) [-]
Or that person has nowhere else to get money from.
User avatar #83032 to #83030 - radiserne (04/16/2015) [-]
He could get them from the Catholic church, they're not known for taking people's money in any way :^)
User avatar #83035 to #83032 - schnizel ONLINE (04/16/2015) [-]
Yeah, his child as the price.
#83036 to #83035 - radiserne (04/16/2015) [-]
We must all make sacrifices to the Lord of Light.
User avatar #83037 to #83036 - schnizel ONLINE (04/16/2015) [-]
User avatar #83038 to #83037 - schnizel ONLINE (04/16/2015) [-]
RIP in peace schnizel junior
#82937 to #82934 - youregaylol (04/15/2015) [-]

Don't accept the deal.

Don't accept any of them.

No compromises.

User avatar #82938 to #82937 - lulzforalpsplane (04/15/2015) [-]
Stannis is totally my nigga, pls unite the subhumans.
#82930 - anonymous (04/15/2015) [-]

red or green?

ready for the red thumb storm!
#82931 to #82930 - anonymous (04/15/2015) [-]
enjoy your -20 thumbs

stupid Irish jew nigger
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