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User avatar #76523 - byposted ONLINE (2 hours ago) [-]
The Lebanese Army withstands ISIL, killing some thirty, losing eight:

صد الجيش اللبناني في رأس بعلبك هجوما، كان يخطط للدخول الى قرى البقاع الشمالي






Meanwhile, roughly 7,500 Ukrainian soldiers are at risk of being surrounded, near Debalcevo. The Donetsk Resistance has claimed Uglegorsk, Lozovoe, Dolomitnoe, Novoluganskoe and Krasny Pakhar as part of this effort.
#76527 to #76523 - levvy ONLINE (1 hour ago) [-]
looks like that shitty american equipment and nato training did't pay off for ukraine after all.

i'm guessing the ukrainian offensive on donetsk last week failed and this is the aftermath.
User avatar #76524 to #76523 - schnizel ONLINE (2 hours ago) [-]
Noice
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User avatar #76509 - lulzformalaysiaair (8 hours ago) [-]
How much money did Obama spend trying to stimulate the economy?

Whatever the number was, I remember it was approx the same or more then giving every American citizen 100,000 $$$. I repeat, every one of you could have theoretically gotten 100k. I bet that would have stimulated the economy more.
#76526 to #76509 - dehumanizer ONLINE (1 hour ago) [-]
exactly three-fiddy
User avatar #76514 to #76509 - Sperit (3 hours ago) [-]
Shit man
Maybe Obama is just stupid
User avatar #76510 to #76509 - economicfreedom (6 hours ago) [-]
how does moving money from your left pocket to your right pocket stimulate the economy?
#76504 - anonymous (12 hours ago) [-]
Hurr durr Feminazis are pussifying menz
User avatar #76507 to #76504 - lulzformalaysiaair (11 hours ago) [-]
Well that picture is in a way right but at the same time PC is the definition of pussification.
#76497 - radiserne (14 hours ago) [-]
Who would you consider India's closest military ally?
#76500 to #76497 - levvy ONLINE (14 hours ago) [-]
take your pick from the bric shithouse
#76511 to #76500 - dehumanizer ONLINE (3 hours ago) [-]
heh these are my team mates every time i play dota
#76494 - anonymous (18 hours ago) [-]
So, we have an Britfags here.

I'm not British. But the upcoming General Election seems pretty interesting.
#76498 to #76494 - levvy ONLINE (14 hours ago) [-]
>she will die in your lifetime

feels good
User avatar #76482 - feelythefeel ONLINE (01/24/2015) [-]
You can tell a lot about a person if you ask them to imagine a world without Israel, and then asking them what the world peace celebrations are like.
User avatar #76501 to #76482 - feelythefeel ONLINE (14 hours ago) [-]
>nobody getting that this was a joke
wow
User avatar #76496 to #76482 - marinepenguin ONLINE (17 hours ago) [-]
Humans have been killing each other since the beginning of our species. Removing Israel would do nothing in the grand scheme of things.
User avatar #76495 to #76482 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (18 hours ago) [-]
Lol Israel is just a maggot in the heap of shit that's in the middle east. Removing it won't do anything.
User avatar #76493 to #76482 - akkere (19 hours ago) [-]
Israel may have a large hand in a lot of world events, but even if you were to somehow "wish" them out of existence, you'd still be nowhere near acquiring world peace.
I would've thought that much would be obvious to most people, but apparently not.
User avatar #76492 to #76482 - lulzformalaysiaair (19 hours ago) [-]
>and then asking them what the world peace celebrations are like.

wut
#76491 to #76482 - cabbagemayhem (20 hours ago) [-]
Because the Middle East is peaceful without Israel, right? I don't think so. I hate to say it, but how about a world without Islam?
#76502 to #76491 - byposted ONLINE (13 hours ago) [-]
Excuse me, but all vestiges of stone age superstition must be purged from the human conscience :^)
#76487 to #76482 - levvy ONLINE (23 hours ago) [-]
#76468 - majormayor (01/23/2015) [-]
I love you Zyklon Ben.
User avatar #76470 to #76468 - lulzformalaysiaair (01/24/2015) [-]
I challenge Zyklon Ben to a "Who can fuck the world more" game.

I win you goy.
User avatar #76471 to #76470 - majormayor (01/24/2015) [-]
Come to think of it, he's a pretty good political lolcow. He's a good replacement for Ghost (although he doesn't have a radio show).
User avatar #76472 to #76471 - lulzformalaysiaair (01/24/2015) [-]
Nobody and I mean nobody can replace Ghost.

He can't die! currently listening to this www.blogtalkradio.com/ghost/2011/08/23/true-capitalist-radio-hosted-by-ghost--episode-138
User avatar #76473 to #76472 - majormayor (01/24/2015) [-]
>2011 was four years ago
It's not going to be any more recent, either.
User avatar #76477 to #76473 - lulzformalaysiaair (01/24/2015) [-]
I think all the earthquakes happening on earth are due to Goofy Bone falling on his fat ass.
User avatar #76478 to #76477 - majormayor (01/24/2015) [-]
I wonder what happened to him, given that there's still groups based upon him.
User avatar #76479 to #76478 - lulzformalaysiaair (01/24/2015) [-]
twitter.com/goofybone
www.spreaker.com/user/kilaradio/thursdaynitelive
His page 404'd on BTR since 2013 cuz account banned. Still doing the same shit.
User avatar #76480 to #76479 - lulzformalaysiaair (01/24/2015) [-]
He is still hating on Debi Daily and hanging out making mini podcasts with his small group of friends.
#76455 - anonymous (01/23/2015) [-]
In your opinion, is Vladimir Putin a Fascist ?
#76512 to #76455 - dehumanizer ONLINE (3 hours ago) [-]
He has failed...
#76485 to #76455 - levvy ONLINE (01/24/2015) [-]
not even close
#76476 to #76455 - anonymous (01/24/2015) [-]
putin is a big fat hui
User avatar #76499 to #76476 - lulzformalaysiaair (14 hours ago) [-]
pashol tee vshopu
User avatar #76474 to #76455 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (01/24/2015) [-]
I would say that he definitely has fascist elements. An authoritarian state with strong nationalist and chauvinist elements as well as a cult of personality around the leader definitely fits Putin's vision for Russia.

At this point Russia is kind of in an identity crisis ever since the fall of the USSR and seems more to be in between democracy and fascism, only the future will know which way they'll end up going.
User avatar #76481 to #76474 - lulzformalaysiaair (01/24/2015) [-]
Hopefully fascism, Russians can't handle democracy. I speak from personal experience
User avatar #76463 to #76455 - jewishcommunazi ONLINE (01/23/2015) [-]
Probably not. Especially since Russia and the Right Sector don't get along so well.
User avatar #76466 to #76463 - ablueguy (01/23/2015) [-]
Isn't he allegedly funding the far right political movements in Europe though?
User avatar #76467 to #76466 - jewishcommunazi ONLINE (01/23/2015) [-]
Never heard about it, but now that I think of it, it's not like russian nationalists would likely get along with ukrainian nationalists anyway.
User avatar #76459 to #76455 - lulzformalaysiaair (01/23/2015) [-]
To a small degree.
User avatar #76456 to #76455 - schnizel ONLINE (01/23/2015) [-]
He's a conservative, but an effective 1.
#76449 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (01/23/2015) [-]
So YouTube interviewing Obama.

They could have genuinely challenged mainstream media and Obama with this, a whole alternative way of looking at politics from a contrarian skeptical point of view where we aren't bound with specific journalists pushing a left-right narrative. Someone like Adam Kokesh, Libertarian Socialist Rants or hell even David Pakman.

Nah they instead let him be interviewed by this bathtub cereal eating retard.
User avatar #76460 to #76449 - feelythefeel ONLINE (01/23/2015) [-]
The questions were selected before it even began, so the chat was pretty much meaningless.
User avatar #76462 to #76460 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (01/23/2015) [-]
Reminds me a lot of that part from The Interview were they already selected the questions for Kim Jong Un's interview. Only that was satire from a shitty stoner movie.
User avatar #76453 to #76449 - jewishcommunazi ONLINE (01/23/2015) [-]
Who is she?
User avatar #76454 to #76453 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (01/23/2015) [-]
Some random vlogger on youtube who got chosen to interview Obongo.
User avatar #76452 to #76449 - lulzformalaysiaair (01/23/2015) [-]
"YouTube interviewing Obama" WTF?
#76441 - schnizel ONLINE (01/23/2015) [-]
This guys slaps your GFs ass, what do you do FJ /pol/?
#76513 to #76441 - dehumanizer ONLINE (3 hours ago) [-]
Frederic Barbarosa? I call him a faggot, cross a river on a boat and wait for him to come after me.
User avatar #76515 to #76513 - schnizel ONLINE (2 hours ago) [-]
That's Richard.
#76518 to #76515 - dehumanizer ONLINE (2 hours ago) [-]
the Lionheart?
User avatar #76519 to #76518 - schnizel ONLINE (2 hours ago) [-]
ye
#76520 to #76519 - dehumanizer ONLINE (2 hours ago) [-]
i thank him for getting me a gf then join him and we remove kebab together
User avatar #76521 to #76520 - schnizel ONLINE (2 hours ago) [-]
lel
#76517 to #76515 - dehumanizer ONLINE (2 hours ago) [-]
the Lionheart?
#76508 to #76441 - byposted ONLINE (11 hours ago) [-]
*unsheathes scimitar, forged from superior Damascus steel*

"You're a big unbeliever."

"For you stand without a horse!"

"Meet the Infidel's bane, merciless towards those who disregard the Merciful, whom you shall encounter presently."

*beheads the mushrik debauchee with a quick turn of the torso - the sword so lightweight, yet so robust, that as much as a final prayer to the illegitimate vicar of the heavens could not have been uttered to grant his departed soul refuge from jahannam*

"God is greater than you."
#76516 to #76508 - schnizel ONLINE (2 hours ago) [-]
>mfw
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User avatar #76469 to #76441 - majormayor (01/23/2015) [-]
Blow his mind with today's technology like dish washers.
User avatar #76461 to #76441 - feelythefeel ONLINE (01/23/2015) [-]
Be happy I have a GF?
#76457 to #76441 - anonymous (01/23/2015) [-]
Ask him if he'd like to buy an excellent cook and dishwasher.
User avatar #76447 to #76441 - lulzformalaysiaair (01/23/2015) [-]
Motörhead - King of Kings
Bow down to the King.
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User avatar #76445 to #76441 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (01/23/2015) [-]
Scream racism and ban the evil white male shitlord of oppressing me and hate speech.
User avatar #76442 to #76441 - pebar (01/23/2015) [-]
rejoice because I have a GF
#76431 - anonymous (01/23/2015) [-]
imgur.com/a/hHMtN

Have you guys ever had the pleasure of viewing the art of David Dees?
#76483 to #76431 - Shiny (01/24/2015) [-]
So this is what it's like to be in a mental asylum.
User avatar #76429 to #76425 - pebar (01/23/2015) [-]
While states can't nullify laws, state and local police do not have to enforce federal laws.
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User avatar #76416 - byposted ONLINE (01/22/2015) [-]
rt.com/news/225383-saudi-arabia-king-dead/

Saudi Arabia’s King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz has died in hospital while undergoing treatment for pneumonia. An official statement has named Saudi Crown Prince Salman the new king.
#76428 to #76416 - radiserne (01/23/2015) [-]
A king with dementia, I'm scaroused.
User avatar #76420 to #76416 - lulzformalaysiaair (01/23/2015) [-]
I forgot Saudi Arabia was still a monarchy.
User avatar #76434 to #76420 - feelythefeel ONLINE (01/23/2015) [-]
It is. What about a prince succeeding the late king doesn't suggest that?
User avatar #76435 to #76434 - lulzformalaysiaair (01/23/2015) [-]
Did I fucking ask if it was a monarchy? I said I had forgotten.
User avatar #76436 to #76435 - feelythefeel ONLINE (01/23/2015) [-]
Fuck, I think I have dyslexia or some shit. Misreading everything lately.
#76413 - pebar (01/22/2015) [-]
It's kind of relevant again
User avatar #76484 to #76413 - Shiny (01/24/2015) [-]
"forcing them to provide things for you." Like better working conditions and less sexual harassment?

#76411 - anonymous (01/22/2015) [-]
The idea of Anarcho-Capitalism baffles me.

For one, Stateless societies have historically been very collectivist. Though, this is also pretty contradictory to Leftist Anarchism, since without a state people were bound together by family ties or common language.

Also, what reason is there to obey property laws? Since Propertarianism seems to be the backbone of Anarcho-Capitalism. What's to stop me and mercenary army from taking your factory?

User avatar #76440 to #76411 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (01/23/2015) [-]
I find the other forms of anarchism even worse. Because collectivism is inherently authoritarian and coercive. When you force people to have your own property be public and you cannot even be allowed to have a voluntary agreement to work for someone then you just live under a quasi dictatorship.
User avatar #76443 to #76440 - jewishcommunazi ONLINE (01/23/2015) [-]
"When you force people to have your own property be public..."
Personal property =/= private property. You're allowed to have whatever objects you want.

"...you cannot even be allowed to have a voluntary agreement to work for someone"
Those "voluntary agreements" aren't so voluntary in reality, you need a job to sustain yourself and finding one isn't that easy, so you're conditioned to work in the only place you can find in most cases.
User avatar #76444 to #76443 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (01/23/2015) [-]
Oh god you're one of those "personal property is completely different guize!" retards.
Personal property is by definition private property. Private property is a legal designation of the ownership of property by non-governmental legal entities which included personal property like clothing.

The reason it's not easy is because we don't live in a capitalist society, we live in a statist society where government causes unemployment and telling them where they can and can't work. You're basically saying because you think voluntary agreement aren't voluntary that you somehow feel the need to throw the principle of voluntary out of the window and force everyone to live under a centralized collective dictatorship.
User avatar #76448 to #76444 - jewishcommunazi ONLINE (01/23/2015) [-]
"Oh god you're one of those "personal property is completely different guize!" retards."
Ok, let's try again: anarchists distinguish property over the means of production and personal items by calling one "private property" and other "personal property". Is that clear enough for you now?

"The reason it's not easy is because we don't live in a capitalist society, we live in a statist society where government causes unemployment and telling them where they can and can't work."
How does the government tell me where I can and can't work?

"...force everyone to live under a centralized collective dictatorship."
Weren't we talking about anarchism? If so, do you even have an idea of what anarchism is?
User avatar #76475 to #76448 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (01/24/2015) [-]
The problem is that these are pretty much the same things. There's no difference between personal property and private property because it attempts to ascribe arbitrary things. For example according to socialists a horse is personal property because i can ride it but it's public property because i can use it to plow the land which means it's used for the means of production. So the horse as property is a whole contradiction.

The entire argument boils down to semantics. By socialist logic any personally owned tool that is used for the means of production automatically becomes collectively owned, where as capitalists just sees property as property, when you use your tools for your labor it's still your tools. No need for semantic wordplays like personal property. I can at least understand geolibertarians separating natural resources and fruit of labor but personal/public property just makes no sense to me.

Look up agorism, there are many markets that are made illegal by the state, plus the government constantly helps big business stay on top preventing competition and more employment. The point is in a free market there's enough job opportunities or hell even if you can't find anything there's always ways to invest. Anything better than a coercive system where you need to work for the collective.

In Anarcho-Syndicalist societies they simply decentralize the state and replace it with another centralized collective system. You must work for this collective system since they refuse to allow any competitive private markets hence making it coercive by nature.
User avatar #76488 to #76475 - jewishcommunazi ONLINE (22 hours ago) [-]
"For example according to socialists a horse is personal property because i can ride it but it's public property because i can use it to plow the land which means it's used for the means of production. So the horse as property is a whole contradiction."
It's personal property. Private property must have a social relationship to it.

"By socialist logic any personally owned tool that is used for the means of production automatically becomes collectively owned..."
No, it's still a personally owned tool. The term means of production in marxism is used to refer to the organization of economic production in all of society. Your lemonade stand is safe.

"Look up agorism..."
Market anarchism? That's a little too vague, there are socialists who support "market anarchism" just as there are capitalists who do aswell. Also their counter-economics tactic doesn't seem like it would accomplish anything unless their aim is to piss off the state in the short run. How do you get rid of the state without overthrowing it?

"...there are many markets that are made illegal by the state, plus the government constantly helps big business stay on top preventing competition and more employment."
How would big businesses not do the same with each other? They'd be the most powerful entities even without the government. They'd be the ones to accumulate resources and capital. How would smaller enterprises compete with corporations that have the upper hand on almost everything? Even if they did, they could be easily bought.

"The point is in a free market there's enough job opportunities or hell even if you can't find anything there's always ways to invest."
I highly doubt that. Government might create problems, but not all problems come from the government. There's ways to invest if you have money to invest. Banks won't lend you money either over those with more possibilities because they know those are more likely to give the money back, even if they don't succeed.

"In Anarcho-Syndicalist societies they simply decentralize the state and replace it with another centralized collective system."
Isn't collectivism better than economic despotism? I'm not sure I'd call it centralized either.

"Anything better than a coercive system where you need to work for the collective."
No one forces you to work for "the collective". You can work for yourself all your life if that's what you want.

"...they refuse to allow any competitive private markets hence making it coercive by nature."
There are anarcho-syndicalists that allow markets. Others don't because they find them inherently coercive. The same way they don't allow slavery and feudal relations, they also don't allow capitalist relations.
User avatar #76489 to #76488 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (21 hours ago) [-]
There is a social relationship to it, since the horse can also be used for the means of production. In fact literally every tool like i said can be used for the means of production meaning that they are by definition collective.

Oh so now i can make my own business? So basically what you're saying is that i can use my "personal" property for private labor and can use that private labor to voluntarily sell my labor to someone. And assuming i can share my personal property with someone i can ask someone to help me with my private labor. Which is essentially capitalism...

If socialists oppose profit and private property they're not in favor of a market, they're in favor of a collective dictatorship that forces people not to be able to voluntarily work with eachother. One doesn't need a revolution killing millions *cough* Mao and Stalin *cough* to get rid of the state, there are gradual ways to get rid of it.

First of all big businesses are in direct competition with eachother and making a contract to work together has in history never been a great market strategy. Second of all i've said this time and time again that when private enterprises are innovative they will always beat out the biggest businesses (netflix beating blockbuster, cable companies beating AT&T's Bell system, smaller internet browsers beating Internet Explorers) Big businesses almost never hold their big marketshare and when they do it's a good thing for the economy because either they provide extremely good products or they force small companies to innovative which is good for progress and economy.

As for buying small companies it's a terrible idea to do so because smaller companies are the ones who can set the price. What do you think what happens when big companies buy small companies? Small companies become rare meaning that the price of small companies will inflate heavily allowing small companies to ask for a price so risky that it would put the big company out of business. And considering in most fields there are about thousands of small starting companies it would be far too costly overall.

Banks will lend you money if they know you can be successful with it. You do realize the most successful and richest companies started by a bunch of poor teenagers in their basement? Just look at how Facebook started for one.

Economic despotism cannot exist under a free market system, and collectivism is centralized because it focuses under one dictatorial community that does not allow any other markets or economic systems. At least in an ancap society you'd be able to set up a voluntary socialist society in your own community as long as it doesn't interfere with others.

Those are called mutualists, syndicalists oppose any system of voluntary markets.
#76464 to #76414 - cabbagemayhem (01/23/2015) [-]
If you don't have the right to choose who you want to do business with, then indeed, what rights do you have?
User avatar #76465 to #76464 - jewishcommunazi ONLINE (01/23/2015) [-]
There can be no right to coerce.
#76410 - logickid (01/22/2015) [-]
oh boy time to start shit I like Obama, but, Ron Paul would've been a way better president, and the fact that the fucking media ignored him makes me absolutely livid, he wants to end war seeing how it's a waste of money, and he would probably also be able to solve obesity too, but Obama won, Obama has his heart in the right place, I use to think Obama was beast, only now I'm paying attention, I didn't watch the State of Union, and I want Ron Paul or someone else like him to be president, the whole fucking republican and democrat shit is retarded.

/thread 8^)
User avatar #76421 to #76410 - lulzformalaysiaair (01/23/2015) [-]
Rand Paul is an interesting candidate for America. Not nearly what my perfect President would be but better then the typical democrap and republitard.
#76388 - anonymous (01/22/2015) [-]
Too little freedom yields a life of no happiness.
Too much freedom yields degenerates.
User avatar #76417 to #76388 - klowserpok (01/22/2015) [-]
To much freedom, without self discipline , leads to degeneracy, anarchy, and lawlessness.
User avatar #76432 to #76417 - ablueguy (01/23/2015) [-]
Come on goy man, you don't need self discipline, just go to work your dead end job, go home to your tiny ass apartment, order some extra large pizza and fall asleep after jacking off to some fucked up porno
:^D
Or even better! be a NEET gentile gentleman and stay in your moms basement till you're 35! Watch your chinese cartoons all day, have a waifu! After all, those korean anime girls are pure, not like your feminislut western women! Don't work out, don't educate yourself, anyone who tells you your fat, stupid self is fat and stupid is a bigot!

Fuck I'm cringing just reading the shit I just wrote.

#76433 to #76432 - klowserpok (01/23/2015) [-]
Normally I find the "le evil jew" meme funny, but...
Come on man, the laziness in our society isn't because some guy called Goldstein Shekelburg is controlling people ok, maybe its a small part .
Its just that when people have really freaking easy lives, they often lose ambition for anything other than just living.
Their attitude of "Why do something when I'm so comfy " is because of resource abundance and just how freaking easy it is for them to be a leech on society, living off their parents, or welfare/benefits.
#76415 to #76388 - radiserne (01/22/2015) [-]
"Too much freedom" no such thing exists.
#76419 to #76415 - anonymous (01/23/2015) [-]
Not even if people are free to bone their dog or have crack babies?
#76422 to #76419 - radiserne (01/23/2015) [-]
Let me rephrase: As long as you don't harm other living beings or other's property, there cannot be too much freedom.
#76423 to #76422 - radiserne (01/23/2015) [-]
Killing animals for food or cloth is not my definition of harming, just to be clear.
User avatar #76405 to #76388 - pebar (01/22/2015) [-]
Too much freedom, when people have to deal with the consequences of their own actions, produces degenerates?
#76406 to #76405 - anonymous (01/22/2015) [-]
Too much freedom, when people are free from the consequences of their own actions, produces degenerates.
User avatar #76412 to #76393 - beatmasterz ONLINE (01/22/2015) [-]
Nice argument
User avatar #76439 to #76412 - schnizel ONLINE (01/23/2015) [-]
Thanks.
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