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/pol explains ISIS. i found this on /pol and thought you might wanna see this stop oppressing me. Say hi to evil I' seen a lot on Imgur about corrupt government

i found this on /pol and thought you might wanna see this

stop oppressing me

Say hi to evil
I' seen a lot on Imgur about
corrupt governments killing their
own people, but I haven' t seen
anything yet about a, bloodthirsty
called ISIS.
I put this together to change that.
This is ISIS
Short for The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria
ISIS is a terrorist organization whose goal is to create a
Sunni state that stretches from Baghdad to the
Mediterranean Horrifyingly, they are succeeding
ISIS started out as in Iraq. After the US left, they
regrouped and became so murderous that even the head Al-
Qaida organization said that they were too extreme Al-
Qaida broke all ties with them. Let me repeat that.: even AL-
QAIDA wont stomach the shit these guys do
You might' heard about how the Syrian uprising was co-
opted by terrorists who impose Sharia law on the cities they
wrest from Brasher ? That' s ISIS When they take a
city, they Shiites, Christians, and anybody who
rejects them as the new government.
Aim Bakr
This evil fucker is the leader of ISIS He makes Bin Laden look
tame by comparison He Christians, Shiites,
jews, and anybody who rejects ISIS or does not comply with
Sharia law once he imposes it on a city, Today, ISIS released
gruesome photographs and claimed that they
1, 700 Shiites in a captured Iraqi city,
I Vernal in mm., i. m
r. mm....; Picture source: l
s attempt to create a state that stretches to the
Mediterranean is underway Disturbingly, ISIS now completely
controls over 30 cities. Most recently, they took Mosul, Bani, Takeit,
Samara, and They are SIXTY MILES from Baghdad Let
me be clear ISIS has gone from being a terrorist group to a
terrorist state
Has US Military
As ISIS takes control of cities, it replenishes its resources by
emptying banks and incorporating military equipment that the US
left behind for the Iraqi military, They have humvees tanks, and
even some Fighter jets, though it is believed that they do not
know how to pilot them
an They We cargo panes it - in Tstape
Mass Murder in Iraq and Syria
As in Syria, ISIS is anybody
who resists their rule, as well as Shiites and
Christians. ISIS publicize; videos and pictures of
its murders online, in an attempt to foment a
sectarian war, Google at your own risk. NSFL,
With ISIS consolidating its forces 60 miles from
Baghdad, Shiite militias have begun forming to
prepare for a siege against the city, Food prices
have doubled. Energy prices have increased .
Citizens in Iraq and Syria are stuck between their shitty power-
hungry governments and terrorists. It seems like a
crime for other countries to look on from the sidelines and do
nothing But what can be done, and who should do it? I dent have
the answer to that, but I hope that this will at least educate you to
the point where, if the government does propose intervention to
destroy ISIS, you can evaluate whether its worth it or not
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User avatar #63 - thephoenix
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Why doesn't America go in and break stuff? that's like, your thing! Britain would but we don't want to steal Americas thunder now, do we?
User avatar #185 to #63 - bothemastaofall
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And also this isn't america's problem. Hell Iraq wasn't our problem. It would be one thing if well...

Imagine you see a girl about to get hit by a truck and you dive to save her. Now imagine the same situation, but you order your loved ones to do it.
The second one is war. I don't care how deserving this girl is, it is not on your head if she dies. Your family, your soldier exist to help and defend YOU, not her.

Yeah it sucks, but I'm not about to condone ordering more innocent soldiers to die for a different country.
#295 to #63 - nonanonnon
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Well we left after that didn't work the first time. With how bad things have gotten because of the US efforts, trying that again will probably cause Hitler to be reincarnated.
User avatar #305 to #63 - reginleif
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**** you Limey pricks, go in there yourselves and earn your global relevance for once. -.-
User avatar #789 to #305 - thephoenix
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>global relevance
> owned the largest empire on record
> FOUNDED THE COUNTRY YOUR FAT LAZY ASS IS SITTING IN
nice logic, bitch
User avatar #790 to #789 - reginleif
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So Britain is the equivalent of a baby daddy? :/ We get it, the country did cool **** in the past. Earn your ******* CURRENT global relevance you limey piece of ****.
User avatar #791 to #790 - thephoenix
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And America is doing what? Oooh black guy in charge! we're so important! wow!
User avatar #792 to #791 - reginleif
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We're staying the **** out of it. I think the US has done more than enough for the world in terms of military action.

Let's be equals, this time Europe can send the money and troops, we'll send some tiny amount of manpower call it a "contribution", talk meaningless mumbo jumbo about our "relationship" and then our civilians can call you guys warmongers, profiteers, and bullies. :/

Sounds fair.
User avatar #796 to #792 - thephoenix
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I'm just gonna go right ahead and agree with you, I really could care less about politics and I lack the attention span to maintain arguments, Enjoy the remainder of your evening
#812 to #63 - anon id: 6cdd22b0
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Your country slaughtered Argentinians over a group of islands you should have freed decades ago.
User avatar #813 to #812 - thephoenix
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bit slow on the uptake there
User avatar #363 to #63 - xdiabolicx
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Why doesn't your country jump in and get wrekt first so we can show you how its done later?
#132 to #63 - thedungeonmaster
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"Britain would"
"Britain would"
#407 to #132 - xsoljakidx
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are you forgetting that Britian once had the worlds largest empire on record spanning three quarters of the globe

we may have lost our way but we could retake our empire if we wanted to

pic somewhat related
User avatar #443 to #407 - barenoizedub
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We couldn't do ****, shut up, I can't stand people from Britain thinking that Britain is some great thing anymore, we're not, deal with it. I also feel the same about people that seem to think that the USA is the greatest place on Earth because again it's not. Having the biggest weapon stocks doesn't mean ****, if we were ever to enter another world war, the whole world would be uninhabitable until it gets pulled into the sun. My point being no military collection matters, the only thing that should matter is a nations happiness and places like Sweden, Canada, Australia, Norway, Switzerland, and New Zealand are much, much better places to be right now.
User avatar #530 to #443 - voltkills
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britain is still pretty great really, we have the 6th largest economy while having the 22nd largest population and 80th in land size, thats pretty amazing really. we have probably the 5th best military in the world, despite again, being tiny, and in politics we are a major world power.

sauces: wikipeidia for most things, www.globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.asp?country_id=united-kingdom for the military rank
User avatar #534 to #530 - barenoizedub
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Im not saying we suck or anything, but we're not amazing really, there are so many countries that are better than us...
User avatar #540 to #534 - voltkills
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by economy, there are 5 countries better than us, my military, 4, for such a tiny ass ******* country on an island, thats pretty ******* good.
User avatar #551 to #540 - barenoizedub
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23% of our nation are obese, we're the 21st largest economy as of 2012 and we are still in a triple dip recession which as you can probably guess, isn't good. We're top 100 in most living costs, which means it's expensive as **** to even live here. 14% of people below the poverty line, 8% unemployment rate.

www.nationmaster.com/country-info/profiles/United-Kingdom

I studied economics, politics, and business, I know that we are doing rather poorly as a whole, sure we're not the worst, we're better than at least half of the world, but we're not doing well enough to say we are doing amazing.
User avatar #557 to #551 - voltkills
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the sieze of ones economy is not done by capitia, wow, also i sense a labour fag.
User avatar #559 to #557 - barenoizedub
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I'm actually not a labour fag at all, and like I said, I studied Economics, I know how the economy is valued, you have to be an ignorant **** to think that the only thing that matters is GDP, you silly cunt.



I did however just check wikipedia and turns out we are doing better than I suggested still, my figures were a little dated previously. We still aren't doing great though.
User avatar #561 to #559 - voltkills
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if you just look at the size of our economy then sure, we are not, but look at it relative to our population and land and suddenly, thats pretty good.
User avatar #525 to #407 - turtletroll
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Shut up you ******* retard. You're making us look bad
#448 to #407 - jvcjvc
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only one quarter!
User avatar #158 to #132 - thephoenix
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Well I don't see America doing anything so climb down from your podium there, slut
User avatar #163 to #158 - thedungeonmaster
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Oh calm down sweet heart.
User avatar #164 to #163 - thephoenix
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Sorry, I get rather flustered sometimes
#88 to #63 - falinos
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Last time we tried stopping this terrorist ****, the whole world turned on us calling us oil thieving warmongers. we heard them and left, and cut our military budget and now its "WHY oh why doesn't America do something about this"
User avatar #401 to #88 - snowshark
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No, the reason people got mad was because the US headed into Iraq, where there was no Al Qaida presence, deposed a dictator who was keeping the Suni, Shia, and Kurds in check, imposed a Democracy the people did not want, promoted a Shia into leadership who proceeded to not give a **** about the Suni's and Kurds, basically invited Al Qaida into Iraq, and destabilised the entire middle-east leading to the Arab Spring which now has many different facets of "HOLY **** THIS IS WORSE THAN BEFORE" plastered all over it.

I'm not holding you personally responsible nor your damned country, just the people who made the ******* decision, especially when there was no shortage of people telling them that this is exactly what was going to happen. The US is not to blame, but it was the millions of live, the four-trillion dollars wasted, and the general ********* ness of the middle east that has the world pissed and the worst part about it all is the Republican Party is saying they want to go back in and do it all over again because they're warmongering ********.

It wasn't because the US went in to solve a problem that people get pissy over. We like solving problems. Especially solving problems with guns and no fear of death, because that **** causes yet-more problems in the long-run.

It's because Bush went in regardless of the hundreds of experts who told Bush that his strategy would lead to this (Mass instability in the middle east) and he went and did it anyway.
User avatar #531 to #401 - antinonymous
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Then you gotta add the fact that ISIS (ISIL) was trained by the US in Jordan to fight in Syria but they didn't stay there, they left and did what you see now.

Source: www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-trained-isis-at-secret-jordan-base/5387532
User avatar #608 to #531 - snowshark
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I'm not sure how much truth there is in that statement so I kinda just leave it out. I don't really think the list of things to get pissy about will get too much less outrageous without it anyway.

However true or not, ****** ******.
User avatar #138 to #88 - wrocky
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wow just read that in jim's voice
#458 to #88 - freddyhollensen
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As a scandinavian, it's not unheard of to be pro American.

I for one respect America for taking direct action. I dislike America for a whole range of other things such a third world status corrupted government, huge distrust to science, grotesquely uneven distribution of the wealth etc.

But your army policy and willingness to do something about bad guys I admire, and I'm fairly certain I'm not alone.

I generally tend to like Americans as a people as well.
#545 to #88 - EdwardNigma
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I never understood the other "**** terrorist" war thing, because I was too young and have never, even now, been good at politics. But if you go in there now and start handing out free samples of bullets, gods ******* speed, and I hope to christ Australia follows you the **** in there.
I never understood the other "**** terrorist" war thing, because I was too young and have never, even now, been good at politics. But if you go in there now and start handing out free samples of bullets, gods ******* speed, and I hope to christ Australia follows you the **** in there.
User avatar #488 to #88 - cantexplain
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Exactly. Besided there are other countries with military. Or maybe, I don't know, UN, NATO and the like. But in time of crisis the whole world just watches if America is going to step up. And then like you said, we complain. (Not an american)
User avatar #387 to #88 - bobebob
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Dammed if you do, Dammed if you don't
#726 to #88 - anon id: 5d5229ed
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No. Stay out of this. For real, though. Draw back your soldiers AND your funds
#694 to #88 - anon id: f3a5835d
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Damn, 401 thumbs up that's incredible.


It's incredible that 401 people agree with you in that nonsense you've said. It's like all of you cover your eyes and didn't see **** for a long time. For ****** sake, everytime the US military goes into a country they destabilize the **** out of it and, once they got control over the things they have interest (aka war on socialist, oil or strategic location) they flee and let an open door to this kind of people.


Even after all the **** the US government did, you still thinking that you're the good boys and got the nerve to go with that "don't come crying to us" attitude.


Man, I love America and I've known some people from there that are awesome, but most of you are blind when it comes to see what your government is. Shame.
#677 to #88 - anon id: 71fc10d6
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All this Americans, so proud of "their" country, "we" pulled out of Iraq, "we" had to do something and "we" did. As any of you, any, had anything to do with any desition whatsoever. Your power hungry bosses did what they thought was useful for them, no country in its right mind would ever send a single man to a war in another country for another if they truly loved them. They fulfill their arrogant bids and then leave.

Inb4, what? "we're we" supposed to do nothing? You did nothing, the very moment the desition was taken you didn't know about it or have any opinion on it, just the media saying that "you" as a member of the USA had to accept the fact that you "HAD" to enter the war. Who decided that? You? Your friends? Not even the congress has desition making power, they're all bought already. Free yourselves before freeing others, educate yourselves and get rid of the corruption in your governments, only true action can do that, not watching the news and saying.. "oh whatev' i agree"
#676 to #88 - cosmicswagmstr
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This Guy
#674 to #88 - anon id: e7d06970
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This Guy
#659 to #88 - anon id: 13d5b7dd
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That's because we WERE there for oil and natural gas.
#654 to #88 - anon id: a63d93f5
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um, no, last time you went to iraq, you deposed the government that kept order. that shifted the balance of power, and now we are where we are today. of course there are many other factors, but blanket statements and strawman arguments help nobody
#620 to #88 - anon id: fe824a08
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because last time you assholes went in there it was because the bush administration killed thousands of their own people in a very ******* poor coup, trying to pin the blame on iraq just so the usa has a strong leader to "protect" the citizens from the evil turban cammel *******.
The fact that these bush ******* took "the little prince" by machiavelli a bit too serious is the results of the nine eleven attacks and the resulting "war against terror" wich was their own doing.
Now where its actually helpful to sweep in there is no money to be ganed from it so no1 gives a **** about it.

all youd have to do is nuke those ******* and there would be none of them left to poison the minds of young innocent people, hence it would stop right there and no more of that ****** in the brain way of thinking would spread anymore.
but since theres no money to gain theres no 1 to fight for it.
User avatar #612 to #88 - kanaka
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can't please everybody
#578 to #88 - anon id: 06b8b259
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how simple the world is!
User avatar #527 to #88 - bananarchy
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Wait, people STILL think the war in Iraq was because of MUH FREEDOMS?
#476 to #88 - anon id: 097a385c
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Its because when america tried to "intervene" they were ACTUALLY trying to get more cheap oil, but this is different.
#462 to #88 - anon id: a9c5d1c2
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Though I can see your point there is something sliiiightly incorrect about your statement. Look, very few people in Europe except some politicians said "America, go into Afghanistan!", "America, Go into Iraq(especially this one)". In Libya only dimwits and commies turned around and said that it was you who shouldn't have bombed. It was a lot of ******* countries shelling Libya.

Also the media in many european countries is very left-wing and anti-war. Also the entire population is kind of sick of it after the whole continent was demolished in the 40's. Europe has gone from being the most warlike continent in the world to one of the most progressive and peaceful. So now, since it is the norm to critizise war, people think it makes them look better if they hate on America because a) you guys did give yourself a ****** reputation with Vietnam, Iraq, Guatemala, Chile, Cambodia, etc. and b) You´re a superpower, easy target to hate on.

Source: I am Eurofag
User avatar #438 to #88 - zuflux
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Yes, and ISIS is a result of the americans going to war in Iraq to begin with.

It destabilized the regions, and now they're squabbling about the leftovers between themselves.

However, if the west would co-operate on this, and simply mow down the entire Isis movement, you miiight do some good.

This entropy stuff is hard, and an even fouler beast might rise from those ashes.
User avatar #431 to #88 - pizzaweed
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That's how it always is. My honest opinion is that the place is quite ******, and we'd be better off removing as many innocents as possible, then killing every living thing still there.
User avatar #410 to #88 - klina
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Not to be the dick, but they probably would need to defect from al-qaeda and make an ever worse sect if you guys didn't ******** them for a few years. I'm betting if you left them in "peace" from the start, it would just be **** happening in there without much global influence.
#364 to #88 - anon id: 4fec2fe6
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He was being sarcastic plus saying you "left" sort of implies you went, then dipped out. Too bad you were there for years
User avatar #352 to #88 - thesweetscientist
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This is one man, not the whole of yurop. Calm your american man-tits.
User avatar #260 to #88 - asmodeu
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That's perfectly understandable.
But my real concern is WHY on earth would you leave all that expensive military equipment behind ?
#287 to #260 - anon id: bb2e68d3
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uuh, like it said if the ******* comp, for the Iraqi military
#259 to #88 - anon id: dba22136
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You entered Iraq under false pretenses.
There was no reason to do that.

There are a million things ****** up about this, but you have to agree that something had to be done.


Or we can add it to the list of international *******.
Rwanda
Fardur
Isis
User avatar #533 to #259 - cabbagemayhem
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We entered Iraq because of beliefs they were acquiring WMDs, and their supposed refusal to cooperate with U.N. requests to inspect suspected weapons production facilities. All that aside, Hussein was a problem in and of himself. This was also in the wake of 9/11 when we were sure as hell were going to establish a presence in the Middle East somewhere, which we did and used it as a launchpad against Al-Qaeda.

So, don't give me this ******** about how we didn't need to be there. We don't like to go to war, but we learned to not sit on our hands too long 70 years ago. **** had to be taken of, and we did it. Now, you pacifists are in control and everything is deteriorating rapidly. At least you're learning your lesson while the problem is still small.
#563 to #533 - anon id: 1cbeb704
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1. U.S. LIES that they have WMD.
2. U.S. don't allow UN in their weapons facilities, yet when other country does that, then OH MY GOD BASTARDS.
3. Check how many years Hussein was an ALLY of U.S.
4. So you invaded whole country (result: 1 MILLION DEAD) to attack al-qaeda (few hundred in iraq) . Bullcrap.
5. You needed to start wars because of your "war economy". Look it up. No morals, needs, "peacekeeping". MONEY.

You GREEDY american BANDITS.
User avatar #611 to #563 - meganinja
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Wow that comment is so ignorant. Sure, you might have a point for your first 3 points, but 1 million is nowhere close to how many have been killed. Also to think that anybody would fight a war like that for money is incredibly stupid. Look at how much has been destroyed. Maintanance on aircraft, blown up tanks, killed soldiers, all that money in the hole, and you say there's profit involved? No, there isn't.
#631 to #611 - anon id: 1cbeb704
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Red cross. All that money is on bank accounts of owners of military industry, where do you think you get that equipment from?. Would you buy new ones if old ones we're stored somewhere doing nothing?. Ordinary american lost, they gained billions. Plus noone cares about some social trash that gets conscripted because they have no other options in life.
User avatar #634 to #631 - meganinja
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Yes but that only helps big business owners. Not only does it not provide profit as a whole, but it actually shrinks the tax base when you have people dying. WWII only did anything for the USA because it involved employment, and not actually creating money. Wars are always a money hole, unless you happen to conquer something more valueable than what you've lost.
User avatar #581 to #563 - cabbagemayhem
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1. Some lies were discovered after-the-fact, which was ********, but some information came from outside sources, such as an Iraqi defector informant. And, that didn't annul our responsibilities in the Middle East once we were already there, but we pulled out now, are you ******* happy?
2. We aren't an unstable regime likely to produce and release unnecessarily cruel WMDs on civilians.
3. Just because we had a common interest at one doesn't mean we ever supported all of his activities. What's your point?
4. It was an effective foundation to support operations in Afghanistan, and where do you get your figures? Most Iraqi casualty estimates are closer to 100,000.
5. That's just false, and completely ignores 9/11, Saddam Hussein, and other international dilemmas which I doubt you even consider.
#628 to #581 - anon id: 1cbeb704
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1. Ofcourse after the fact, as all lies, you created that informant as excuse, you don't have any responsibilities anywhere, you mean interests.
2. Yes you are, you are corrupt corporatocracy with war economy that uses military for your interests and profit.
3. Yes you did. That's definition of allies. U.S. even gave chemical weapons to them.
4. You don't need "support" from iraq, it's too far, you had enough bases in afghanistan right away. Plus carriers etc. It was just invasion for the sake of war, oil and israel, not "base". Red cross.
5. 9/11 was nothing strategically, economically, politically. NOTHING. Bee sting after which you decided to burn all hives in the woods, with woods, just to get honey.
User avatar #708 to #628 - cabbagemayhem
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1. The informant was a defector from Iraq who told German intelligence that Iraq had an active biological weapons program. He later admitted to lying because he wished Hussein removed from power. www.theguardian.com/world/2011/feb/15/curveball-iraqi-fantasist-cia-saddam
2. That's has no truth in it at all. Our economy is a Capitalistic free market to produce the most value. Our military budget is only high because we are responsible for the defense of several other nations such as Japan, Canada, Western Europe, etc., as well as moderating third world conflicts and ensuring the world doesn't collapse into WWIII.
3. We don't use nor provide chemical weapons. They are against the Geneva convention and unnecessary except for cruelty and massacres.
4. Bottom line, we were going to invade someone for 9/11, and we wanted to prevent the worst case scenario of terrorists acquiring WMDs. Sorry if we picked the wrong one.
5. 9/11 was well-planned. You can call it a bee sting if you want, but you shouldn't go poking bears. An event like that gets the attention of everyone in the Western world. What did you expect to happen? We didn't come for honey. We were mad.
User avatar #655 to #563 - freakyorange
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1. Did you just say that we don't have nukes? The **** is wrong with you?
2. Why would we need the UN to be in our weapons facilites?
3. He wasn't always a bad guy, moron. He got corrupted.
4. Where did that number come from?
5. What? War COSTS money.
#811 to #259 - anon id: 6cdd22b0
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We entered your mom under false pretenses.
User avatar #683 to #88 - TarnRazor
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No. No NO. It's no secret that the US entered Iraq for oil. However, the sheer ******* that the US military left Iraq in CAUSED this. I've heard horror stories from people who lived it. With no stability in the country, no law, no government, it's not exactly surprising that this happened. It's the exact same of what happened in Afghanistan. A country is ravaged and left without proper rule and extremists use the opportunity to herd people by means of religion.
#532 to #88 - twilightdusk
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"And cut our military budget" HAH, nice joke there.
User avatar #90 to #88 - thephoenix
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Settle down there Obama
#95 to #90 - falinos
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nothing in what I said points to my own beliefs it's pretty much just a timeline of what happened and points to (partially) why we are hesitant to do anything.

I do believe its stupid to expect America to jump into situations like this and then immediately jump us for interfering with another country.
User avatar #102 to #95 - thephoenix
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jesus christ i was being facetious and all of the Murican's! got butthurt and downthumbed.
God bless the internet
User avatar #121 to #102 - Stamyham
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So what did we learn today?

Here's a hint don't be ******* facetious
User avatar #122 to #121 - thephoenix
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You can't stop me now, I've come too far, let the red thumbs roll
User avatar #124 to #122 - Stamyham
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Godspeed, you crazy bastard. Godspeed.
User avatar #306 to #102 - toosexyforyou
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I'm European and thumbing you down.
User avatar #89 - ivoryhammer
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I notice that nobody mentions that ISIS has also been doing things like directing traffic and helping infrastructure.
User avatar #375 to #89 - ivoryhammer
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Today I learned that nobody on FJ knows what sarcasm is.
User avatar #768 to #375 - byposted
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"B...but I was just joking guys."
#350 to #89 - anon id: 70765da8
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MUH "AT LEAST THE TRAINS ARE ON TIME"
User avatar #393 to #89 - threeeehuggings
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Hitler built highways and improved infrastructure as well.

Then again, Hitler did nothing wrong, right?
User avatar #420 to #89 - gunni
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Yeah, and Hitler built the Autobahnen
User avatar #653 to #89 - undeadwill
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aren't you that faggot who lurks the politics board only to red thumb people you didn't like?
User avatar #764 to #653 - ivoryhammer
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Politics board? What are you talking about?
User avatar #765 to #764 - undeadwill
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You use to go and red thumb byposted
User avatar #766 to #765 - ivoryhammer
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I don't know who that is.
User avatar #769 to #766 - byposted
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Is that so? I take it that you have thumb spammed too many people to remember.
#767 to #89 - byposted
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Directing traffic? I guess you could say that, but many would rather go solo for reasons shown below.

ISIL Death Cult Kills Three Syrian Truck Drivers in Iraq after Failing the "Are you Sunni?" Test






Helping infrastructure? Indeed, that's how non-state actors typically make friends amongst the civilian population. I don't see this makes the ISIL unique from other militant organizations in the world.
User avatar #770 to #767 - ivoryhammer
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You've got a lot of times on your hands don't you? I have my own little fan club, neat.
#773 to #770 - byposted
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I thought that you had already seen the OC I made about you. After all, you did thumb them down. Tell me: did you have a bot working or was your cock jammed so far up your ass that you weren't paying attention to content while wasting your free time - which you appeared to have a lot of.

How does it make you feel, anyway, that I have fully recovered, in terms of thumbs, from your spamming?
User avatar #794 to #773 - undeadwill
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is that you?
User avatar #802 to #794 - byposted
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No, but I am honored to be mistaken for the legendary slapper.
#285 to #89 - Schofield
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It's hilarious to me that nobody understands you're joking/
User avatar #335 to #285 - newforomador
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If he was joking then it was horrible attempt at it.
#479 to #335 - anon id: 1e1712a4
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It seems Americans really don't understand sarcasm...
User avatar #562 to #479 - cabbagemayhem
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Sarcasm doesn't carry over text. Do you even internet in your country?
User avatar #325 to #89 - wthree
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Yes but a large part of that infrastructure is a slave trade where ISIS gets a bunch of its money from.

Remember, Auschwitz had a train service.
User avatar #160 to #89 - moldybreadcrumb
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Well, of course traffic improved, everybody with a car in those cities is dead.
#103 to #89 - bazda
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Yeah? Hitler built the ****** autobahn, but that's not what he's famous for.
User avatar #92 to #89 - tmstyrant
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yeah I imagine no one cares when you are mass-murdering people
User avatar #91 to #89 - angelusprimus
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"Hey Abdul! ISIS has taken over our city, they are finally bringing order to the traffic! Abdul? Abdul?"
*slaps his head*
"Oh yes, Abdul was Shi'a he and his wife and children have been brutally murdered. But atleast I have good traffic now."

Sorry, when someone is mass murdering people the fact that they solved the rush hour doesn't impress me.
User avatar #99 to #91 - TheHutchie
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This is like some kind of bizarre backwards version of "what have the Romans ever done for us?"
User avatar #101 to #99 - angelusprimus
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Pretty much. Exactly in reverse and not funny. (god bless monty python)
I mean this are the same people who think that little girls who want to go to school should be shot, but boy, do they keep the roads safe.
User avatar #104 to #101 - TheHutchie
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ISIS just wants to make sure they don't get held up in traffic as they drive to execute thousands of people based on religion and ethnicity.

In seriousness though, these people need to be stopped and put down. There's no point in prison for a group this radical; it would only give them time for their ideals to ferment, and to try and recruit more to their obviously delusional cause. They're so far beyond redemption that even considering mercy is an insult to all the victims and their families.
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leld
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User avatar #355 to #104 - commontroll
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As a Christian, whose religion is based entirely on the basis that we are undeserving of God's love and forgiveness yet he gives it to us anyway because of said love, I completely agree.

It's great and all to forgive and give a second chance to people, but when more and more people are being harmed every day by them, you need to stop them by any means necessary.
User avatar #405 to #355 - snowshark
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As an Atheist with no faith-bias or faith-related doctrines of commandments in relation to being nice and forgiving people I also like to think that forgiveness is an an amiable solution. It just seems like the most mutually beneficial solution. I also believe that if that doesn't work the first place we should be going next is Jail and slapping irons on every member of ISIS so they never see the light of day again.

However that's a very idealistic scenario and frankly speaking I think we're long past the point where this can be settled with anything other than violence. ISIS is like a cancer and it is literally the worst kind you can get. They are the perfection of jihad. The Islamic faith distilled of all measures of tolerance it has adopted over the years.

I don't advocate killing, ever. It's just not my thing. But I respect at this point in time it is the only way to save lives and once this is all over the people responsible for the dead ISIS members, the people ISIS killed, the people who basically initiated this whole debacle in the middle-east, should be put in the deepest, darkest, blackest hole imaginable and the only food they get gruel pumped through a hose at them. (Okay... I'm more moderate than that but you get the idea... I don't like the Republican Party members who are responsible for this mess.)
User avatar #412 to #405 - commontroll
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The rest though I agree with. Except advocating killing. I think killing happens, and it's not the greatest thing ever, but when people act like it's murder it upsets me. Somebody dying because of somebody else isn't necessarily murder, just somebody being killed. But it's definitely easy for people to feel pride in killing others, and there's a really fine line there.
User avatar #424 to #412 - snowshark
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I look at it like this. There is no situation imaginable where killing is forgivable. However it is not always the people who pull the trigger who are responsible for the killing. A killing can always be avoided through one means or another. Wether it be the fault of the mental health services not being funded or even constructed well enough to help the people suffering who cause school shootings or the people who allowed the guns to fall into the hands of people ill-equiped to use them.

The same is true in wartime. I won't blame the people who kill the members of ISIS for their deaths. I will blame the people that allowed the ISIS members to become radicalised in the first place or who allowed them the strength and means to become mass-murderers.

We should never act like death is a small thing. It should always be treated with the utmost scrutiny and if it could be avoided -anywhere- along the line we need to find where that point is and why it did not stop the death(s) from happening so that we can fix it and avoid future deaths.

Death happens and chances are it won't stop happening any time soon... or ever. But that doesn't mean we could or should ever treat it as anything other than what it is.

I don't think we need to share religious beliefs to know that life is, by whatever meaning you ascribe to the word, sacred.
User avatar #409 to #405 - commontroll
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The Republicans didn't want a power vacuum left behind, that's why they pressed for staying for so long, because they knew this was bound to happen if we withdrew. As for the initial invasion, everybody was for it. Hell, Obama's the one who decided to support Al-Qaeda backed rebels, who were probably ISIS.

Don't get me wrong, I'm neither Republican or Democrat, but that's because they both have their pros and their cons and neither side is the source of all problems. That said, I lean far more conservative due to the lack of federal restrictions that the more liberal politicians consistently press for. I hate when entire groups are limited and punished for a few being retarded, literally the most retarded thing in school because it always just pitted everybody against whoever was the cause.
User avatar #419 to #409 - snowshark
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I'm not saying there aren't democrats who should be in the **** for this too, but at the time there was a massive 'NO' going around throughout the culture of experts who weren't bought off by the oil/weapons companies.

What we're dealing with here is a situation created by the Republicans which they advocated to leave more troops in Iraq to help postpone instead of fixing. When ISIS came with 800 troops 30,000 Iraqi troops dropped their guns and even their uniforms and ran. They ******* pegged it. They have no ***** to give about Iraq and they won't fight for it either. They'll fight for their Shia families or their Kurdish families but you won't get the Sunni fighting the Sunni and you won't get the Shia fighting for anyone other than the Shia.

The only way to fix the situation and avoid this would have been to carve up Iraq and give Bagdad and other Shia locations to Iran, the give the Kurds their own place and the same with the Sunnis. Then this whole ethnic cleansing could have been avoided. ISIS would still probably have rocked up but at least when they did they wouldn't have US weapons to use to kill the thousands of non-sunni who would not be in the sunni state.

But no, the Republicans didn't want to solve the problem. They just wanted to pretend that they had fixed the problem and that there wasn't a problem at all. Plus, it was OBAMA who wanted troops out of Iraq so of COURSE the republicans disagreed. It's what they do. They're racist, backwards-thinking, obstructionist cunts who would rather shut down the government than allow Obama to do any measure of good in the country. Not even the good things that are in-line with republican values.

Staying in Iraq would have only postponed this atrocity. There was no way to train the Iraqi millitary because they didn't care about Iraq. Leaving was the wrong choice too. The fist thing that should have been done after deposing Saddam was the destruction of Iraq because it's just a bunch of lines on a map to them.
User avatar #696 to #419 - commontroll
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I don't think you read what I said. They were saying "yeah let's stay" because they very quickly realized the moment they left **** like this would happen. You are literally saying what I said but saying that Obama and the Democrats were in the right man. You're just scapegoating.
User avatar #560 to #419 - cabbagemayhem
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Your sense of justice is disturbing. You blame "Republicans" for the death of ISIS members and would put them in a hole spraying them with food, I suppose because it's somehow morally superior to killing them. And, you nearly advocated slapping mass executioners on the wrist, because killing them is bad. You may criticize "Republican" methods from the sidelines, but at least they were trying to get **** done. Your ideology would have allowed everything to deteriorate to the point of no return. I hope not all atheist democrats are this crazy.
User avatar #616 to #560 - snowshark
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1) I blame "Republicans", yes. Because Bush was a Republican as were a lot of his supporters going into Iraq. There was no need for the quoatation marks.

2) " (Okay... I'm more moderate than that but you get the idea... I don't like the Republican Party members who are responsible for this mess.)" Exact quote of what comes next after that whole hose thing. What it translates out to is "I am not that cruel, but you understand the feeling I am trying to convey here, right?" I didn't think I needed to state any more clearly than that that what I said way hyperbole.

3) Yes, killing people for killing people is not how we should be doing things. In an ideal world that is how the world would run, people would do bad things and they would get punished, people would work with them to reform them and if they couldn't be reformed they would be kept secluded away from people until they were. Because everyone can earn a second chance and we don't have the right to deny them that.

4) I criticise their methods from the frontlines, actually. Not just republicans, Democrats too. I criticise anyone who does stupid ****, however this mess is mostly the fault of the Bush Administration. If Obama does stupid **** like be a spineless pansy and let the dumbass republican obstructionists demolish any good that he could do then yeah, I think he is also to blame for not having a freaking backbone. And as for the frontlines, yeah I do my part to try and fix this broken governmental system. Have you heard what Wolf Pac are up to? I'm doing my part.

5) So are the Democrats. I think it's clear that everyone sees this is a problem and that both sides are working to find a solution at this point.

6) How would my ideology do that?

7) I'm Atheist, sure, but I'm not crazy. Nor am I a Democrat. It just so happens that at this point in time there are only two viable political parties, neither of which I like all that much. Right now though, I think Obama is right to be cautious.
#695 to #616 - followtheworms
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You realize Obama was the one who ran arms to the rebels in the Syrian uprising, which was ISIS? Assad was a thug, yes, but we should not have aided the rebels/ISIS.
User avatar #698 to #695 - snowshark
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Oh god I couldn't agree more there. You don't depose someone who is bad at keeping order in favour for people who don't want to.

There was probably some kind of solution there but that wasn't the right one. I don't support Obama, I support his good decisions and I am ready to spit fire when he makes bad ones.
User avatar #684 to #616 - cabbagemayhem
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1. "I blame "Republicans", yes. Because Bush was a Republican as were a lot of his supporters going into Iraq"
You blame an entire ideology because of a few men's actions, and you would crucify them all even though they could have been right. How much longer would it have taken to suppress Al-Qaeda and the Taliban if we didn't have a strong presence in Iraq?

2. Mine was a hyperbole too, but you get the feeling I was trying to convey, right?

3. I'm a strong advocate of rehabilitation, but you're extreme. Sentencing murderers to counseling sends other would-be murderers the wrong message.

4. You're quick to jump on Bush for a couple lies and taking decisive action during a growing terror threat, but you're still mulling over whether Obama taking appropriate action? And, then only in the matter of allowing "Republican obstructionists" to stand in his way? The Middle East is deteriorating rapidly as a consequence of his premature departure, and you just think he might be spineless if he doesn't violate the constitution more and bypass congress enough to make into law your specious and dangerous ideologies? I don't think you are that bipartisan.

5. Yes, of course everyone's against it now that it's already happening, but who could have warned us that something like this could happen if we left too fast? Not Republicans, those warmongers belong in a hole.

6. Because you're too passive. You would hesitate to apply force so much that war would be at your front door before you realized you need to do something.

7. While your arguments have been fairly coherent this time, I still think you're crazy for subscribing to too many liberal ideologies, thinking negatively of conservatism, and ever believing Obama was going to fix anything.
User avatar #697 to #684 - snowshark
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8) It is deteriorating because Bush went in there in the first place and staying there just cost more and more lives and trillions of taxpayer dollars when the US was suffering from a recession where that money needed to go to helping the people who Obama was elected to protect. Governance doesn't mean 'Save the world' it means 'Save the people you represent' so Obama made the right choice. Plus, this was always going to happen. Iraq is just lines on a map to those people. 30,000 troops fled from 800 ISIS because the Sunni won't fight other Sunni, the Shia won't die for non-Shia territory, and the Kurds won't either. Iraq means nothing to them. They only care about their faiths. The best solution would have been to carve up Iraq a long time ago and stop pretending it can be fixed, because it was always broken and always will be broken until it disappears.

9) He is spineless because the Republican Party keeps manufacturing reasons to be outraged at him and his administration and in response Obama doesn't stand his ground. He fires people. Flees. He is in his second term in Office he should be balls-to-the-wall determined to carry out his beliefs and I'm glad of what he is doing with climate change (yet more bills that congress continue to shoot down) but he needs to do that with the things that matter too.

10) A lot of people warned about this. Of course the region would become destabilised. But there was nothing that could ever stabilise that region outside of ethnic cleansing, which we're against.

11) Don't confuse my compassion for passiveness. Right now there are no warmongers beating on the door and the ones who try to have no military capacity to bring war to the US. This is foreign affairs.

12) My ideologies are towards fair-treatment for all. It's an ideal for an ideal world that we don't live in and I make the necessary compromises but at the same time we should not stop reaching for that dream just because we can't reach it quite yet.
User avatar #691 to #684 - snowshark
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1) I've repeatedly made reference to my focus on certain individuals as opposed to the whole and you know it.

2) Neither the Taliban nor Al-Qaeda were in Iraq before the invasion. The invasion in Iraq destabilised the region, let them into Iraq, drove supporters to their side, and diverted funds away from the war in Afghanistan.

It would have taken a much, much shorter period of time.

3) No it wasn't. Stop trying to be smart. You're not very good at it.

4) Sentencing murders to death sends the wrong message too. They should be put in jail, like I said, until we're certain they're not a threat to people and if they never change they never get out of jail.

5) Of course I'm quick to jump on Bush. His lies threw the middle-east into turmoil and led to trillions of wasted dollars and thousands upon thousands of lost lives simply because he listened to the wrong people and took that 'decisive' action. What 'growing threat' was there? Another 9/11? Iraqi WMDs? Well we confirmed there were no Al-Qaida connections or WMDs in Iraq when we went in there so... yeah, yeah I think I will get pissed at Bush.

6) Bush's decision was simple. Go to war for all of the wrong reasons or don't. Right now Obama is faced with a problem 100 times worse. There are numerous dangerous forces involved in Iraq right now and one wrong move could end up throwing yet more lives onto the bonfire. Right now he needs to decide how to navigate the minefield that is the ISIS revolution in the best manner possible.

7) When you put "Republican Obstructionists" in quotation marks are you just quoting or are you expressing disbelief? Because they shut down the government just because they didn't want Obama to have his way and are shutting down every bit of legislation he is trying to pass. On top of that, pretty much everyone in Congress is corrupt to some degree or the other which is the cause of this whole Wolf Pac revolution happening in the States. www.wolf-pac.com
User avatar #707 to #691 - commontroll
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1) Yup, your focus on Bush. But why do you hate bush so much? Because they said there were WMD and/or terrorists in Iraq?

2) This is related to 1 as well. You're right, they weren't there because there was a power hungry and blood thirsty dictator who had enough chemical and biological weapons stored to kill the planet eight times over and used them to kill the people of his own country. Saddam needed to go big time.

3) What?

4) What wrong message is that, no toleration of heinous crimes?

5) Again, enough chemical and biological weapons to wipe out all human life on earth eight times. I count that as WMD. Also, he was not bypassing Congress by going to war in Iraq, Democrats and Republicans alike were all about it. Even if he had knowingly lied, he's far from the only President who has. You're just saying he's ****** because everybody else does.

6) Yes, handling it by arming them in Syria, which they are taking over. Way to go Obama. Well played there.

7) Obama shut down the government by bullying them into allowing his poorly designed health insurance that made insurance more expensive for tons of people and forced people to either buy insurance or pay massive taxes, or they would be jailed. Those are the issues they had with it, oh, and the sheer amount of money he was claiming it needs.

Seriously man, look up both sides of the conflict.
User avatar #716 to #707 - snowshark
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1) Because he went to war for the wrong reasons, has shown no remorse or penance for the catastrophe that his decisions wrought, and because the whole mess was his fault.

2) Prior to the war the Chemical Weapon situation was calming down big-time. Paragraphs 3 and 4. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction

3) That wasn't hyperbole and if it was that's not how hyperbole is used. I figured you were just being snide. Not the case? If not then sorry, I got the wrong idea.

4) It says "We are okay with killing people." which is just not okay. We can never be 100% sure we have the facts straight in a case so there is always the chance that the man in the chair is innocent. We can't let that happen. Also, even the worst of criminals can turn their lives around and they deserve the right to earn that chance.

Michael Vick was convicted for animal abuse and has since reformed and worked to help fix the damage he has done and the damage that other animal abusers do. Who are we to deny that right to anyone?

5) The link says it all. And I never said he bypassed congress. He bypassed the UN but not congress. And his lie cost the lives of many people and different sources present different estimates ranging from tens of thousands to millions. I'm saying he's ****** because he's ******.

6) I never said that wasn't a ******* retarded mistake on Obama's part. God damn I'd like to punch him in the face for that ****. However the ISIS situation is now even worse than it was prior to their insurgency in Iraq and a lot of very passionate people have their fingers dancing on their triggers right now. It is a minefield and the US people not only don't want more war, the US people can't afford it, or at least they shouldn't have to.

7) It wasn't poorly designed and all of the arguments against it are unfounded. The Republicans just want to make people hate Obama as much as they can and ended up making people hate them too.

I have looked up both sides.
User avatar #736 to #716 - commontroll
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I'm not the guy you were arguing with man. I'm the guy who was discussing stuff with you until you were throwing all Republicans under the bus then I went to bed. I was just checking in the morning.

And they weren't calming down because he was gassing Kurd civilians even when we were invading. I've got somewhere to go, otherwise I'd respond to the other points.
User avatar #754 to #716 - cabbagemayhem
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1, 2. It was right just to remove Saddam Hussein from power regardless of whether Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction. The bottom-line is we were going to invade someone over 9/11. We thought Iraq would kill the most birds with one stone, but either way, someone would have gotten invaded.

3. That was a perfectly legitimate hyperbole, and if yours was intended to be one, then so can mine. And, it's funny when you call someone stupid on the line you mess up the numbering. Still, that was a low blow.

4. How do they deserve the right? They took a life intentionally in cold blood without remorse or remotely justifiable cause. They don't have the right to breed, let alone live. In the name of defending murderers, they are allowed to continue killing other inmates. What about their rights?

5. Most estimates are closer to 100,000. Hussein killed at least a million while he was in power. It's messed up, you calling Bush ****** for removing Hussein. More people are killed by their own government than any war. Consider that while you're doling out your contempt.

6. Sure, but you were only blaming Bush. You didn't blame Al-Qaeda, congress, or Saddam Hussein, and you've shown nothing but favoritism toward Obama until now.

7. You think ObamaCare isn't poorly designed? It's legendarily poorly-designed compared to other health care systems. The entire thing should be rebuilt.

Anyway, it takes two shut down congress. While the House was rejecting ObamaCare, Obama was refusing to separate it from the bill, or even postpone the decision! The republicans didn't want to make people hate them, or take all of the blame, they wanted to lawfully represent the wishes of those who elected them, thankfully. Can Obama say the same?

Obama loves to blame republicans for everything, who are just trying to protecting the ideologies that made this country great, and avoid predictable consequences like what we have in Iraq, right now.
#783 to #754 - anon id: 4c935f96
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You sound like a gigantic piece of puerile republican ****
User avatar #799 to #783 - cabbagemayhem
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Typical liberal hatred of what they don't understand.
User avatar #759 to #754 - snowshark
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2000 characters of vitriol:

Congress: Congress are a total sack of **** both now and throughout history. Congress have continually shot down any attempt to fix the massively corrupted system that they run on to the point where the US is being forced to take failsafe action that has never been taken before in US history just to fix the system. It is one of the worst democratic systems in the civilised world and it is filled with corrupt sacks of **** on both sides of the party line.

They should also never have agreed to a war with Iraq prior to UN sanctions.

Al-Qaeda: What ******* worthless sacks of douche these pricks are. They are gutless, spineless, and generally lacking anything beneath their filthy, murderous skin. They use their faith as an excuse to kill countless people and they are amongst the few people in the world that make me wish I weren't so ******* morally incorruptible on the whole 'Killing people' thing. But alas, I stand by my points and I can't even advocate killing them, though I respect it is probably unavoidable at this point in time.

Saddam: Good god this ****** was such a cunt. I might be outspoken about hating the Iraq war but I am outspoken about this ********* too. He was a total ******** murderer and I'm glad he got taken out of power. I detest how we did it but I'm glad he won't be hurting anyone anymore. Now, to deal with the immense mess that came afterwards.

Obama: **** this guy. I'm glad he has a green agenda but besides that this guy has done very little actual 'change'. He said he was going to change the corrupt system in the US but ended up reinforcing it and now, shock-horror, is suffering from it too and the US people have had to get off their arses and are currently working on fixing that one themselves. www.wolf-pac.com

They say Obama is black on the outside only and I can see why they say that because he is exactly the same as every other corrupt **** there. Change on the surface but the core is as broken as ever
User avatar #756 to #754 - snowshark
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4) Agreed, the figures and estimates are all over the place. However in regards to Saddam, the solution wasn't to kill him, at least that was not the obvious and only solution. The UN advocates war only in cases of need and Saddam was showing that he was reacting and changing the way he dealt with his problems.

My contempt is not for the Iraq war happening in the first place it is for the grossly corrupt and retarded way it happened. It happened without the sanctions of our allies, it happened at great cost to all parties involved both in the case of money and lives, it has caused massive instability due to the way it was handled, and now the answer to fixing the problem we caused became leaving people on the front lines to die and pouring money we needed elsewhere into an endless war. If they had carved up the land and given it to countries that would have used it and governed it properly we would not be seeing this situation we're seeing right now.

Granted, it would probably just be a different situation but it would certainly not be as bad as the one we're seeing.

6: Fine, I'll provide 2000 words of hatred for all of those in relation to this after I'm done with this message.

7: Obamacare is much better designed than people imagine it is. They are swept up in baseless accusations and I've yet to see a single shred of evidence to support them. Obamacare is really ****** compared to the UK NHS, sure, but that's because the entire US healthcare system is ******* ridiculous, overpriced, and one of the worst systems in the developed world because of it.

And yes, it takes two to shut down Congress. But what the Republicans were saying is "No, we won't let the democratically elected president of the united states of America get what he wants to the degree that we are willing to cause a national crisis."

And the Republicans aren't defending US values. Like what? Anti-gay, anti-abortion, anti-muslim, anti-regulation, anti-evolution, and basically anti-progress?
User avatar #755 to #754 - snowshark
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1) 9/11 is no reason to invade Iraq. The bombers came from all over the middle east and were allied with a terrorist cell not present in Iraq. Saddam was a sack of ****, for sure, but UN reports showed he was getting rid of the chemical weapons which is why they didn't invade, because the UN uses violence as a last resort, not a first response. This situation Iraq is in right now is precisely why they employ diplomacy.

2) No. The first hyperbole is the over-exagerated treatment of the prisoners that I made. Then you treated the hyperbole as genuine "You blame "Republicans" for the death of ISIS members and would put them in a hole spraying them with food, I suppose because it's somehow morally superior to killing them." That's not a hyperbole.

3) So you believe they cease being human the moment they take another person's life? That's awfully convenient, isn't it? We get to take the low road and remove the people we don't care for from the face of the earth. They don't deserve a second chance, they deserve the right to -earn- a second chance, which is why we aim to rehabilitate people.

Murder does not make a man evil. It is an evil act but, as in all things, there is no black and white. There are no good people and evil people, there is only 'people'. 7,000,000,000+ different ones. Each one of them is an unique case. Some might be able to be rehabilitated and others may not be. Some may have taken lives because they were under pressure or blackmail. Some may have taken lives because they did not understand the value of life or the weight of their actions.

As easy as it is to write them off as filth, the easy road is often the one least worth taking. If we aim to tell ISIS not to kill the people -they- disapprove of, why do we advocate the same in our own culture?
User avatar #782 to #755 - cabbagemayhem
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1. Yes, it is.
2. Yes, it is.
3. You're full of ****. Setting an example for ISIS isn't going to make them stop killing.
4. We were going to invade a terrorist-friendly country either way, and we weren't going to get a pat on the back from our allies for any of them. Deal with it.
5. N/A
6. No you won't, you're a republican hating liberal.
7. One of the worst healthcare systems? America dwarfs the rest of the world in medical science. We are one of the last bastions of a relatively free market healthcare system. Our healthcare system should be freer, but is perfectly fine the way it is. If ObamaCare can't beat Britian's healthcare system, that should have hinted you.
8. Those are all your opinions, that not everyone shares, and no they are not right just because you want them to be. Except anti-progress. Republicans are quite pro-progress, and not two-faced about it.
9. You have cynical view of what kind of people are actually in Congress.
10. Al-Qaeda were originally just a bunch of freedom fighters supported by America to help keep Afghanistan independent. They are human beings, and you shouldn't have to accede to an immature moral standard to decide their fate. The murderers amongst them shall be paid in death. Anything less is an act of mercy. That is all there is to it.
11. Yes.
12. You think a black guy on the inside would have done better? Or, that there's anything wrong with white politicians?

Do the size of your responses always grow exponentially until everyone with a job stops responding?
User avatar #111 to #104 - hydraetis
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While the number may be getting smaller (hopefully), there seems to be a significant portion of the western world that believes in ******** mercy for everyone no matter what they've done. Some guy kills 20 people by sticking them to the wall with a nailgun then eating them alive? We should offer him our forgiveness and restrict his sentencing to jail time/rehabilitation because anything more than that would be inhumane and cruel.
User avatar #226 to #91 - veneficium
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I laughed, but it hurt a little inside
#508 to #91 - gisuar
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sounds kinda like hitler
#5 - jackmanagan
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im sure your post was something serious and informative.   
   
but isis was mentioned
im sure your post was something serious and informative.

but isis was mentioned
#243 to #5 - lastweek
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I read half of it seriously then I went back and laughed at shiites and thought of this image.
I read half of it seriously then I went back and laughed at shiites and thought of this image.
User avatar #245 to #243 - jackmanagan
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all i could hear was demoman goin Ka-Bewm!
User avatar #498 to #243 - bastardusnorvegi
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is that his torso flying away?
#6 to #5 - narcomancer [OP]
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oh you
User avatar #34 - Blargosnarf
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The very second US seeks to step foot in the desert again, the media will explode with anti war propaganda once again, even though the same people would be screaming "help them!"
#528 to #34 - fragman
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The people are usually dumb when it comes to that sort of thing.
I say let them.
There are way too many interventions going on every year by the US and European forces. Just let them sort the **** out themselves. Yes it will take a long time and yes many innocent people will die. But it will force the local people to create the change they want.

How long did it take Europe to get rid of ****** oppressing monarchs? Centuries. But it worked. Because the change came from within the people. Marching in and "helping" leads to either colonizing the entire area or see the next ******* group take control once you leave. No real value added there.
User avatar #590 to #528 - cabbagemayhem
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Except now, nuclear weapons and other WMDs are on the table. While they're figuring **** out, we'll have to worry about rogue extremists trying to ruin **** for us.
#663 to #34 - anon id: 7e2f7824
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It's their ******* religion. There is, in fact, a critical mass of muslims who support alqaeda and isis for the sake of Allah. Their problem as long as they don't try to surpass their "natural" borders (southern Spain). Aside from that: **** em. Why should America send a single slingshot to Syria because of that? Why should we (non freaky muslims as a whole, not just the US, I am not 'murican btw) go there and slap those people? We better mind our own internal problems, i.e the mass of potentially retarded people who actually ruin the country by voting for obvious liars and corrupted politicians over and over again, those who will never be troubled by massive north-african immigration because they make €150k a year and live in a private mansion surrounded by bodyguards.
User avatar #61 to #34 - hecatonchires
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Not this time, isis is too extreme.
#77 to #34 - ddturn
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It's called having your cake and eating it too...
User avatar #166 to #34 - zombiesnipertwo
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I just wonder, why is always US who have to go and save others?

I don't know much of military and leaderboard of power, hell where I live we don't even have an army and we are mostly neutral, but if **** hit the fan is US who will come and save our asses.
Even the commies should help, they truly need a public image boost, and killing ISIS would make that and prove they are actually a military force apart of having nukes.
User avatar #230 to #166 - mrhotwings
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The US is expected to "save" other countries because we spend so much money on our military. Here's a quote from meganinja about US military spending.

"Because the USA's massive spending is what allows every other country to have such small military spending. The reason there's no major wars going on is because the USA is so involved in everything, and is so much more powerful than any other nation that if two equalled countries were to go to war, the USA would intervene and wreck everybody's ****.

The USA is expected to keep up high defense spending, because they want to protect so many countries. They dedicate themselves to being the head of NATO, defending S.K., Japan, Israel, and many other countries. They need a large standing army because those areas are highly prone to war.

Many of the countries that the USA is in charge of protecting are the world's richest countries. the top Western European countries, Japan, Canada, S.K., Australia, are protected by the USA. That means they don't have to defend themselves as much, which means they spend less on percent of their GDP on military."

Please ask anything else if you're still curious or confused about something.
User avatar #269 to #230 - meganinja
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Wait somebody actually read the things I say?
User avatar #280 to #269 - mrhotwings
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Of course. I favorite that comment you made in case of a moment like this. Thanks by the way.
User avatar #64 to #34 - gibssowas
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I feel somehow very conflicted about this...
I mean yea probably someone should get down there and kick their asses but considering that this probably just happened because someone wrecked the country before (and I am not trying to bash the USA here).
Maybe we should let them handle it on their own, an intervention in this region most of the time completely backfires.
User avatar #65 to #64 - Blargosnarf
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Most interventions have gone wrong, yes, but they have more than proven they can't handle this terrorist **** on their own. Perhaps if more than one country aided.
User avatar #85 to #65 - miklthepikl
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but who would intervene? im pretty sure the USA has kinda had it with the world police thing for at least a decade
User avatar #67 to #65 - gibssowas
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That would probably for the best, but when I consider my country (germany) we won't even intervene when they slaughter every single civilian in this country.
User avatar #9 - cleateater
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That's nice
where was the funny?
#319 to #9 - urapooper
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the guy in the red sox shirt apparently
User avatar #12 to #9 - narcomancer [OP]
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and then there's this asshole.
User avatar #1 - ishallsmiteyou
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What we need, and I'm not trying to sound like a jackass, but we need a reaction. I'm not talking full out invasion, I'm talking precision strikes on key targets (I.E bases, ammo dumps, vehicle depots, etc.) for the purpose of weakening their forces to such an extent that local governments can effectively defend against, and eventually eliminate ISIS forces. All an invasion would do is cause even more trouble and give ISIS an extra excuse.
#14 to #1 - anon id: 0ff91a75
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Theres no need for a reaction. 1 in 4 able bodied, fighting age iraq men have volunteered to fight ISIS. So far they have raised an army of over 2 million strong. Thats over 150 times the army ISIS can field in size. Its bigger than the entire US military actually. They dont have the equipment no, but numbers should way more than make up for that with that kind of quantity difference. (and before you say anything about them not being professional soldiers, professionalism is over valued. It helps reduce losses in the early stages yes, but the survivors will learn to fight, and fast. And they've got the manpower to deal with ISIS already there.
User avatar #110 to #14 - ishallsmiteyou
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But those 1 in 4 able bodied people aren't properly trained, have inadequate equipment, low morale, and poor leadership. They don't care about Iraq, it's a foreign concept to them. They care about the territory of whatever group they come from, not the Shiite government's territory. The ISIS insurgents have proven to be far more effective in combat and although their numbers are small they've taken the middle east by storm thus far and are nearly impervious to combat losses as for every one that falls there's one more picking up a rifle to take his place. One adequately trained soldier can take down any number of civilian militia before he gets killed himself.
#87 to #14 - anon id: 62ff1f7c
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So we should react with supplies then?
User avatar #577 to #1 - grebllejk
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That's actually happening now tho. Iraq has purchased Russian fighters and the US has promised air strikes
User avatar #582 to #1 - hatesmlp
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They use civilians as shields, so precision strikes would in that case kill innocent people.
User avatar #621 to #582 - ishallsmiteyou
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they don't hold civilians in ammo dumps. They don't hold civilians in vehicle depots. The only place they might hold them is in combat and bases, and that's why you drop in CSOR or something instead of turning it into a crater.
#679 to #1 - becauseoprahsaidso
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We can't go straight to them and attack them, too many lives would be lost and many Americans wouldn't support it. But this is like a cancerous growth that needs to be stopped. Drones and robots could carry out this war. We could collect information via satellite and spies and bomb the **** out of their "government" officials. This is an engineering problem as much as it is a social and a political one.
User avatar #685 to #679 - ishallsmiteyou
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Too much collateral damage, can't just turn it into a crater. Air dropped infantry would likely be more effective and if done right result in extremely low collateral damage and almost none, if any, casualties. And who said it would be Americans?
#2 to #1 - narcomancer [OP]
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we shuld 720° no scoep dem fags
User avatar #18 - fuckyeahxd
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good luck conquering israel like that went well the last thousand times
#114 to #18 - anon id: a7127725
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Would be nice if they could so we wouldn't have to deal with the jews. The sand ******* will die quick after the rest of the world intervenes.
#19 to #18 - stoneshit
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Few chemical projectiles on Israel aaaaannnnndddd they're gone
User avatar #20 to #19 - fuckyeahxd
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well not so much, we have anti missiles. anything you shoot can be detonated mid air.
User avatar #247 to #20 - garymotherfingoak
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whats the actual accuracy of those types of defense systems though?
User avatar #449 to #247 - fuckyeahxd
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about 98%. they destroy every missile that is going to impact a civilized place, when there is no danger for human lives it does not interferes with the rockets.
User avatar #22 to #20 - stoneshit
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That **** fast, yo
User avatar #21 to #20 - stoneshit
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What about heavy artillery?
User avatar #23 to #21 - fuckyeahxd
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you mean like atomic bomb? i dont think there is someone dumb enough to use that ****
User avatar #42 to #23 - fuckyouthatswhy
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well ISIS seems pretty dumb to me
User avatar #24 to #23 - stoneshit
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Something like that, I heard Russians have artillery that shoots a balistic head.

You really think those dumb ***** would not do that?
Hurrr durr, for the name of peace and love, hurrr.
aaannnndddd you're gone
User avatar #25 to #24 - fuckyeahxd
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they wont do because it will bring a world war and they have no chance against america in full rage in a side note they are dumb enoug to do so.
User avatar #26 to #25 - stoneshit
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They have an IQ of a bacteriophage, they would do it. Besides, they can bring a lot of resistance to other countries since USA doesn't want to get involved.
User avatar #28 to #26 - fuckyeahxd
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agree. oh and here a video of the "iron dome" start in 00:50 for less talking www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrlsCE4Bdn0
User avatar #30 to #28 - stoneshit
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Skip to 0:20
User avatar #29 to #28 - stoneshit
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I agree with stopping the rockets, but, tell me, can the iron dome stop this?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZZ2Hgu7JG0

Those ***** probably have it, or will get it for the attack on Israel, don't underestimate them.
User avatar #33 to #29 - fuckyeahxd
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lets agree that in a legit' fight (no nuclear bombs) israel will win.
and about the chemical projectiles, every household have by law some gas masks due to a real danger that those bombs would have gotten us in the 90'. i will show a picture of mine tomorrow.
User avatar #38 to #33 - stoneshit
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Israel would win in a legit fight, I guarantee, but what makes you think they wouldn't try to capture Jerusalem and Israel by playing dirty? Let's look at this way. Israel is the strongest force on that area, right? If they destroy you guys, they will show how strong they are and will push fear in bones of other nations, plus, get a nice position for further plans. If they push fear in other nations, they will destroy them easier, like France killed by Germany in WW2, by a simple surrender.

User avatar #39 to #38 - fuckyeahxd
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they will try to capture jerusalim but they will never destroy her. naha, too important to islam for that to happen.
User avatar #41 to #39 - stoneshit
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Okay, not Jerusalem, but destroy other mayor or important cities, and Jerusalem will be a piece of cake.
User avatar #44 to #41 - fuckyeahxd
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yes it could happen, but then again only by playing dirty.
p.s it is nice to have a convo' without be called dumb,stupid,filthy jew and etc.
you da real MVP
User avatar #297 to #44 - stoneshit
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Why would I call you that? We had a nice civilised conversation, not a traditional FJ rant.
#60 to #44 - arreatface
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mfw fithy jew
#340 to #28 - anon id: 9574c067
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iron dome is impressive but to my knowledge is far from full deployment and of course could still only intercept so much. However I completely agree with you that Israel would most certainly be able to defend itself against ISIS.

Also why is the other guy bringing up nukes? The only country in the region with nukes IS Israel so i don't get how they even apply...

The only reason ISIS is doing so well is that they are fighting the incompetent Iraqi military and the war torn Syrian military. against competent militaries such as the ones possessed by Israel, Jordon, Iran, or the U.S. I just couldn't see anything even similar occurring.
User avatar #359 to #340 - inyourmind
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forgot to log in and was damn near impossible to find this comment again.
User avatar #141 to #19 - donthepotato
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Do you even Samson Option?
User avatar #688 to #19 - asschwitz
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From what I understand though, attacking Israel equates basically to forcing the U.S. to come in and **** ****. Not the wisest move on ISIS's part in my opinion.
User avatar #643 to #19 - kristovsky
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Yeah, NEVER bet against Israel.
#271 to #19 - anon id: 8b69b31e
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Not even America would **** with Israel.
User avatar #31 to #19 - paranoidmuffin
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They don't even need projectiles. They just need to get a **** ton of sarin gas and a few dozen vans and do some suicide bombings at key military & government locations.
User avatar #35 to #31 - fuckyeahxd
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like that never happened to israel
User avatar #36 to #35 - fuckyeahxd
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besie the sarin gas all this allready heppened. didn't stop us ptriotism to the top
User avatar #37 to #35 - paranoidmuffin
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I've yet to hear of a chemical attack in isreal. I think recently isreal found out about some guys in syria that wanted to do it but other than that, i don't thinks it's happened yet.
User avatar #40 to #37 - fuckyeahxd
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there was a big threat for this to become real, so we are very prepared for this.
#252 - yuukoku
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Been a Yankees fan all my life. I knew the Red Sox were evil from the ******* start.
User avatar #584 to #252 - hatesmlp
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I do believe this is local Iraqi militia fighting the ISIS.
User avatar #788 to #584 - yuukoku
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I do believe that you need to read his shirt. He's obviously a Red Sox fan.
#638 to #252 - dronenortle
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Derek Jeter is love. Derek Jeter is life.
User avatar #254 to #252 - haeckal
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I'm a Red Sox fan, but I loled.
User avatar #255 to #254 - yuukoku
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We should all share the lol here.
User avatar #84 - muffaletta
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As an American, I hope we don't get involved. Because the second we do, everyone in europe will say we invaded for oil.
User avatar #154 to #84 - envinite
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Gee, it's like American and every hippie people from every continents don't say that.
#457 to #84 - anon id: d146f898
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well let's be honest, you did invade Iraq originally and also Afghanistan for oil. Stop pretending you didn't
User avatar #629 to #457 - noooooooooo
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Implying Afghanistan has oil
#434 to #84 - springbok
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You’re lucky; you only have to deal with corrupt narcissistic Middle Eastern regimes. We get our oil from this guy!
User avatar #414 to #84 - abstractpink
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"I don't want my country to save million of lifes, because we might look a bit bad in the media for a couple of years and get made fun of on the internet"

Okay, I totally understand.
#109 to #84 - nsfwanon
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No, you were bringing democracy! Everyone knows that..
#240 to #109 - hybridxproject
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User avatar #242 to #84 - hoponthefeelstrain
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why the **** don't the Europeans handle it? **** they're closer.
#391 to #242 - captainp
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Europe was involved in both Afghanistan(as part of the Nato) and Iraq(some european allies joined us forces) wars. Europe doesn't have the economy or manpower to support such a war and a lot of the bigger countries are multicultural as of lately. For example France and Germany probably would have lots of trouble keeping peace on their own territory.
The real question is why 'super power' Russia never does anything, but plotting against their neighbors.
#690 to #242 - followtheworms
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Well, Iraq has turned to Russia in the wake of this ISIS ****. I haven't heard what Russia's response is/was.
#278 to #242 - youngsterman
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with how well prepared and superior America's army is I'd imagine they'd still be able to get there quicker. If we can circumnavigate the globe in 16 hours it should no longer matter how fast it would take to deploy. I'm not entirely certain how old this map is, but it's post 9/11 in the least.
User avatar #282 to #278 - hoponthefeelstrain
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but still, we're in so much debt, and they're not. Starting another war would just be causing more debt for other countries to laugh at us about.
User avatar #311 to #282 - toosexyforyou
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The US is in a lot more debt than European countries but most European countries have a far worse economy than the US. The exceptions would be the obvious Sweden and Norway
User avatar #417 to #311 - abstractpink
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You're forgetting Denmark.

Denmark is the only Scadninavian country willing to actually join wars like these, which is why they helped the US so much in the past in the Middle East
User avatar #718 to #417 - toosexyforyou
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With Sweden and Norway, I was talking about economy
User avatar #719 to #718 - abstractpink
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There's something wrong with the Danish economy now?
User avatar #722 to #719 - toosexyforyou
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Nah, man. I was giving a couple of examples
User avatar #504 to #417 - bastardusnorvegi
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hey norway bombed libya with as many planes as you denmark norway got the highest number of targets destroyed in relation to troops deployeden.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_military_intervention_in_Libya
User avatar #505 to #504 - abstractpink
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Well then I guess it's Norway and Denmark
Sweden does nothing
User avatar #506 to #505 - bastardusnorvegi
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bloody svenskjævler
User avatar #50 - nyeeeh
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what does NSFL mean? Not safe for life?
#585 to #50 - anon id: 123293d0
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Not safe for lawns
User avatar #606 to #50 - fukkendragonite
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I guessed Not Safe For Lunch (cos you'll throw up, see?)
User avatar #81 to #50 - pabloenis
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I watched a execution video once that was posted on reddit. Trust me, that's something you don't want to see. These images stick in my head now and they just give me fear, anger and sadness.
#481 to #81 - xravishi
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As someone who's browsed execution websites. I hope you do not attempt to watch any other content, because you've "experienced it already" or something. You just end up being a careless ****** who doesn't take small incidents too seriously. Like i did.
User avatar #780 to #481 - pabloenis
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What's the worst thing you ever saw? What's stuck in your mind forever?
#601 to #81 - cabbagemayhem
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Ouch. You got raped all the way over at Reddit.
User avatar #422 to #81 - demonican
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I saw a beheading once, the victim started to throw up midway. Am i sick for not caring?
#456 to #422 - pabloenis
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a litle
User avatar #56 to #50 - gameshredder
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National Soccer/Football League