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User avatar #87 - canadiantrekker (10/25/2013) [-]
Holy **** this post is stupid.

The burden of proof belongs to whoever makes the assertion that something is true. Until that burden of proof is met with sufficient evidence, it is not logical to assume that the assertion is true. This does not mean that the assertion is untrue, but rather that his has not been proven to be true. In order for Christians to prove that their beliefs are accurate, they must be able to successfully disprove any opposing evidence and they must also be able to provide evidence that cannot be dis-proven. It is not enough to simply say, "oh well you can't prove me wrong so we are on equal ground" because that is not true. You made an assertion, you could not prove it, and you also could not disprove opposing evidence. ( Evolution, Fossil Records, Carbon Dating, ect...) Look at how the legal system works. It may help if you have a good explanation when you are being charged with something, but as long as the prosecutor is unable to prove that you are guilty, the court has no choice but to assume you are innocent. If you make an assertion that god does not exist, then yoiu are even ground, but when it comes to simply defending your lack of belief, you win as long as the Christians are unable to prove themselves right, no matter how bad your argument is, because they possess the burden of proof.
#130 to #87 - anonymous (10/25/2013) [-]
Ok, there are things in space beyond what we can see. No one can prove it, but it's certainly true. There is no "burden of proof", that's just a fact, because human science lacks the technology to understand an exponentially infinite universe. To claim the "burden" lies with the person who makes a claim that there are things beyond what we currently know is not only misleading, but overall dismissive of a viewpoint that isn't your own.
User avatar #283 to #130 - canadiantrekker (10/25/2013) [-]
The fact that their claim is so massive is why they possess the burden of proof. You cant simply make such a large claim and expect people to take it as fact. That is not how science works. Just because it is hard or even impossible to prove or disprove, it doesnt mean that we should take their word for it.And they are not just saying that there are things we dont understand, they are saying their is a god which is a very specific claim. also, CURRENT human science lacks the capability of understanding these things but that does not mean it will not be able to in the future.
User avatar #98 to #87 - heartlessrobot (10/25/2013) [-]
OR we could just not give a **** either way. If there truly is a god/gods up there, and we live our lives the way it suits us and our code of morality, there are two chances. One, we make it to paradise and we should praise them. Two, they send us into the inferno for not living the way they decide. Then they are not worthy of us. That is, IF there are such places and higher beings.
User avatar #112 to #98 - canadiantrekker (10/25/2013) [-]
That's the problem. There is nothing wrong with everybody trying to live according to their own moral code as long as it is a good moral code, but you cant derive good morals from the bible and that's what people do. Sure, some things it says are fine, but many are not. Religion, at least the ones that exist today are negative on society.
User avatar #116 to #112 - heartlessrobot (10/25/2013) [-]
Hey, I don't mind when people believe in what they do. But you're right, religion should not impact laws and morals.
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