land of the free. we're also one of the largest sources of arms in the world. can an an Hm , l an [HINT DRINK It our or L WINE. If you think drinking wine from a cup is a good idea, you're too young to drink wine. land of the free we're also one largest sources arms in world can an Hm l [HINT DRINK It our or L WINE If you think drinking wine from a cup is good idea you're too young to drink
Upload
Login or register
Hide Comments
Leave a comment Refresh Comments (111)
[ 111 comments ]
> hey anon, wanna give your opinion?
asd
User avatar #17 - pwnagraphy
Reply -3 123456789123345869
(08/21/2014) [+] (33 replies)
stickied by infinitereaper
Alcohol and drugs I don't understand the policies on. Who gives a **** if you wanna shoot up heroin? "Oh but it can kill you! If it doesn't it's bad for you!" So? So's cake, but you can buy that in the supermarket. If drugs were legal to be purchased that would put criminals who ell it out of business, because it can be bought legally.

Same with alcohol. 9/10 kids think alcohol tastes ******* disgusting when young, so they probably wouldn't drink it anyway. "But we don't want people drinking and driving!" It happens anyway with adults. Plus they drill that **** into your head for the first 18 years anyway.

TL; DR Who gives a **** if you wanna drink or do drugs? Only person you are hurting is yourself, and that's your choice if you wanna be a *******
#58 to #17 - anon id: 42f84479
Reply 0 123456789123345869
(08/22/2014) [-]
enter the nanny state
#60 to #17 - swagbot
Reply 0 123456789123345869
(08/22/2014) [-]
It's true that doing drugs CAN make you hurt others (alcohol + cars = death)

So if people want to make laws in their local communities to deal with those sort of things, fine.

I think what most Libertarians (including myself) have a problem with is the idea that the Federal Government is making a law about these things:

Why does that piss us off?

> Because our ENTIRE nation was only supposed to agree on a few basic rules - basic things about rights' protection and mutual defense.
> It was never a requirement for everyone in our nation to agree about highly personal, subjective, value-based issues like drugs, abortion, even race rights, etc.
User avatar #65 to #17 - holycrapimacupcake
Reply 0 123456789123345869
(08/22/2014) [-]
So a drunk driver only hurts himself? A mugger who's high on cocaine only hurts himself?
#67 to #65 - poppenhoffer
Reply 0 123456789123345869
(08/22/2014) [-]
But either of those two people are likely still going to find ways to feed their respective habits regardless of the legality of the situation. Look up how the handled drugs (and the decriminalization of them) in Portugal. They've showed the world that you can decriminalize drugs and make it work.
User avatar #68 to #67 - holycrapimacupcake
Reply 0 123456789123345869
(08/22/2014) [-]
I'm aware of that. You just stated that they are only hurting themselves which is untrue.
#69 to #68 - poppenhoffer
Reply 0 123456789123345869
(08/22/2014) [-]
I'm not OP doe.
User avatar #70 to #69 - holycrapimacupcake
Reply +1 123456789123345869
(08/22/2014) [-]
Ah...I see that now...good day sir or madam.
#42 to #17 - eezo
Reply +8 123456789123345869
(08/21/2014) [-]
"Kids probably wouldn't drink it anyway"


10/10 funniest thing I've seen all day
User avatar #23 to #17 - infinitereaper [OP]
Reply 0 123456789123345869
(08/21/2014) [-]
you fill me with hope
User avatar #39 to #17 - citruslord
Reply 0 123456789123345869
(08/21/2014) [-]
That's the evolving thought process nowadays, with the consensus becoming more progressive.
In the past though, part of it coming from the privatized prison complex, there were fear campaigns drumming up support for the criminalization of drugs and eventually the war on drugs. Alot of people seem to make alot of money off of it.
User avatar #52 to #17 - Indoknight
Reply 0 123456789123345869
(08/22/2014) [-]
Drunk drivers are harmless enough.

Let's legalize all drugs so people will feel free to shoot up on cocaine and drive!

I do agree all drugs need be made legal but there must be a plethora of laws in terms of how much, how often, and where one can consume.

We need safe zone drug bars that have security guards and doctors on site.
User avatar #84 to #17 - mtndewisgreat
Reply 0 123456789123345869
(08/22/2014) [-]
The big deal is the development of the human brain. Untill you are 21, your brain is still growing and so are you (more important your brain.) So we have that law because we want you to be fully developed before you choose to mess yourself up. Not saying you will, but it's a choice you know.
User avatar #85 to #17 - seydiltz
Reply 0 123456789123345869
(08/22/2014) [-]
The people in the ER do when they have to fix your priapism caused by heroin withdraw (yes this happens).
#88 to #17 - herosoldier
Reply 0 123456789123345869
(08/22/2014) [-]
Cake doesn't make you stab a ****** when you dont have enough money for a another fix
Cake doesn't make you stab a ****** when you dont have enough money for a another fix
User avatar #99 to #88 - lanfearandthecup
Reply 0 123456789123345869
(08/22/2014) [-]
yea but if heroin is in stores, you dont have to buy street, you cant go to jail, its safer, stuff, cheaper, many reasons, lots of other countries that started allowing drugs saw a decrease in crimes, violence, and overall their economies were boosted
User avatar #101 to #17 - Kulthozuer
Reply 0 123456789123345869
(08/22/2014) [-]
Destroying your body with drugs and alcohol is a major burden to the medical system. We don't have infinite amounts of treatment for people, if we did then people wouldn't be going untreated. Since we simply cannot just increase the amount of experienced medical practitioners in the world to make up for high demand, prices get raised etc... So basically you can destroy your body with drugs if you want but if you seek medical treatment for it then you are consuming resources for a problem you created and someone somewhere might not get treatment.

When you live in a society you are no longer free to do whatever you want. Your actions have consequences whether you have considered them or not.

TL;DR You are not just hurting yourself.

#102 to #17 - ronjeremysweiner
Reply 0 123456789123345869
(08/22/2014) [-]
the problem is that you might hurt someone
i dont give a **** if someone wants to snort coke
but if they then go and beat the **** outa their kids or get behind a wheel, then i have a problem.
if they do it and then lock themselves in a room they cant get out of, then go right ahead.
#111 to #17 - FiddySpense
Reply 0 123456789123345869
(08/26/2014) [-]
Well the problem is most kids aren't educated on the effects of drugs and alcohol. So if you make em wait, at least they'll know by time they're legal.

I guess it doesn't matter that much since the rest of the world doesn't seen to care, but that's just one way to look at the need for a legal age.
User avatar #40 to #17 - lininop
Reply +6 123456789123345869
(08/21/2014) [-]
What I got from you argument: "cake and heroin are the same thing"
User avatar #57 to #17 - heartbleed
Reply 0 123456789123345869
(08/22/2014) [-]
I dunno about heroin or some other drugs. Crazed heroin addicts wandering the streets would kinda suck.
#54 to #17 - anon id: 42cf191a
Reply 0 123456789123345869
(08/22/2014) [-]
Because my parents doesnt want me to drink (but they themselves do) i decided to not to.
Was stupid enough to drink once
Now i keep myself inside, tearing myself down, cant get myself together to do **** about it, failing life, "lost" contact with people i know, trying to please those closest to me

Life lesson; Do crazy **** if you want
#55 to #54 - anon id: 42cf191a
Reply 0 123456789123345869
(08/22/2014) [-]
Its not just that, and theres more to it, sounds lame
User avatar #80 to #17 - ohemgeezus
Reply 0 123456789123345869
(08/22/2014) [-]
>only person you're hurting is yourself
right, drunk drivers and people that take drugs and then go out hurting other people only hurt themselves. Smart logic you got there
#48 to #17 - anon id: cbb180d2
Reply 0 123456789123345869
(08/22/2014) [-]
Heavy drugs become legal and much more present in society.
Personality-affecting drugs turn people into crazed **** heads.
More people ruin their lives by gaining addictions that they continuously feel the need to throw away all their money for.
Kids want to take drugs like their parents and other cool adults, **** up their development early on, become burdens of society.
Almost 20% of people become burdens of society due to ******* themselves up.
More slums have to be created.
Violence and crime go the **** up. But hey, at least crimes surrounding drugs no longer exist! Brilliant idea, crackpipe/10.
#78 to #17 - noschool
Reply 0 123456789123345869
(08/22/2014) [-]
they don't want kids to drink because it can hinder brain development and they don't trust kids with that decision because their brain hasn't developed. the issue is strong drugs, like meth and heroin etc. causes addictions that lead people to need the substance to just get by, eventually they will lose there jobs and homes and all money and resort to crime to get some sort of income to buy more drugs. you can kinda call alcohol out for causing the same thing but generally people can drink alcohol and remain a productive member of society, i have never really heard of a casual meth user.
#24 to #17 - anon id: 61f089fa
Reply 0 123456789123345869
(08/21/2014) [-]
I agree with you, but some stuff (angel dust, bath salts, sometimes alcohol, etc) can make a person a danger to the rest of society by making them act violently or erratically.
User avatar #35 to #24 - pwnagraphy
Reply -1 123456789123345869
(08/21/2014) [-]
Yeah but 9/10 times people are doing this **** in their own homes. What you do at home is none of my concern, and quite frankly you'd think people would have to common sense to not do ******* angel dust

And who the hell came up with snorting bath salts? I get that they smell amazing, that's why you put them in with bath beads and bathe like a god, but come on
User avatar #37 to #35 - ninjaroo
Reply +13 123456789123345869
(08/21/2014) [-]
Addiction is a disease, and prevention is a hundred times more effective than a cure. What you do in your home is none of my business, but how it effects society is, and when a significant portion of the population is crippled by something that thing has to be taken away.
#81 to #35 - anon id: 3518caa4
Reply 0 123456789123345869
(08/22/2014) [-]
It's not actual bathsalts man.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_salts_%28drug%29

Kind like how spice isn't actually spices. It's just herbs sprayed with a synthesized canabanoid compound
User avatar #75 to #17 - bubbabrent
Reply 0 123456789123345869
(08/22/2014) [-]
I'm sure it's because they consider it "endangering yourself and others" that's just my theory on why THEY have the policies on it. Not my personal opinion.
User avatar #61 to #17 - catpisseverdeen
Reply -1 123456789123345869
(08/22/2014) [-]
Tennessee legalized moonshine. Unsurprisingly, both the consumers and traffickers don't like paying taxes, so they still make it illegal. In Colorado, 1 out of 4 crimes are committed within 1,000 ft. of a Pot shop. Also, most of the stores/farms are being fought over by the cartel. Really? Drinking and driving only hurts yourself? Doing drugs only hurts yourself? **** YOU. I have lost several friends to drunk drivers. My cousins life is ruined by weed. Just by buying weed, you are funding the cartel. The cartel murders hundreds of people a year, possibly even more. Several terrorist groups are funded by drugs, and we all know how that **** is working out in the Middle East.
User avatar #72 to #17 - trollins
Reply 0 123456789123345869
(08/22/2014) [-]
Resources are spent on raising someone, and drugs and excessive alcohol waste and shorten their productive output periods.
User avatar #45 to #17 - enigmaticspirit
Reply +8 123456789123345869
(08/21/2014) [-]
Yes, heroin is the same as cake.

Brain isn't fully developed until 25, 21 is closer to the age it is fully developed and will cause less long-term effects than starting at 18. I"m not saying I agree with it, I'm just saying there is a reason scientifically.
User avatar #5 - dalokan
Reply +40 123456789123345869
(08/21/2014) [-]
If you think drinking wine from a cup is a good idea, you're too young to drink wine.
#7 to #5 - anon id: aaa2eb1b
Reply 0 123456789123345869
(08/21/2014) [-]
totally ignoring the point
User avatar #66 to #7 - lithiumdebator
Reply +1 123456789123345869
(08/22/2014) [-]
Totally by accident. Not at all the joke.
User avatar #95 to #5 - leafonthewind
Reply +1 123456789123345869
(08/22/2014) [-]
everybody knows wine in a can is better
User avatar #15 to #5 - ostemad
Reply +11 123456789123345869
(08/21/2014) [-]
He's right man, drink from the bottle!
User avatar #2 - konradkurze
Reply +31 123456789123345869
(08/21/2014) [-]
America:
18 years old

* get married.....yep
* have kids.....yep
* join the military....yep
* go to war and kill people.....yep
* drink alcohol....nope
*
User avatar #73 to #2 - ifightdragons
Reply 0 123456789123345869
(08/22/2014) [-]
star in depraved porno...yep
User avatar #98 to #2 - fuckthehabs
Reply 0 123456789123345869
(08/22/2014) [-]
Can't even by tobacco in the cities surrounding mine at 18, gotta be 21 now
User avatar #103 to #2 - zelivingzombie
Reply 0 123456789123345869
(08/22/2014) [-]
I believe that there was actually a senator from Texas who tried to start a motion to change this so that you could drink at 18, but of course the soccer moms shot that plan to hell
#16 - forsakenas
Reply +19 123456789123345869
(08/21/2014) [-]
>can't even buy weed
>can't have consensual sex for money
>can't marry a person of the same sex or multiple people
>Land of the Free

Yes, I know laws differ between states.
#33 to #16 - anon id: 397b4fcb
Reply 0 123456789123345869
(08/21/2014) [-]
but a little tyranny and oppression are a small price to pay to live in the land of the free
User avatar #49 to #16 - Conquistador
Reply 0 123456789123345869
(08/22/2014) [-]
Typical liberal.
#51 to #16 - anon id: 632e9b34
Reply 0 123456789123345869
(08/22/2014) [-]
>Implying weed shouldn't be illegal.
>Implying prostitution isn't morally wrong and isn't funding larger criminal organizations.
>Implying fag marriage is that important when there's other issues at stake.
#76 to #51 - anon id: 4ef198f8
Reply 0 123456789123345869
(08/22/2014) [-]
">Implying prostitution isn't morally wrong and isn't funding larger criminal organizations. " WUT

If it was legal and regulated it would act just like any other business.
#59 to #16 - cavysback
Reply 0 123456789123345869
(08/22/2014) [-]
marajana is bad 4 u
marajana is bad 4 u
User avatar #64 to #16 - friedgreenpomatoes
Reply 0 123456789123345869
(08/22/2014) [-]
Even in states where you can buy weed, you have to be 21.
User avatar #36 - crazyanimal
Reply +7 123456789123345869
(08/21/2014) [-]
Teens are already the leading in car fatalities... Adding legalization of 18 year old drinking is not a good mix to that
User avatar #93 to #36 - devilofscience
Reply 0 123456789123345869
(08/22/2014) [-]
18 years of age is usually the universal standard for this however and not too long ago it was ours, 21 is a relatively new number and I believe it has greatly offended quite a few people who view themselves as rational drinkers again particularly when they realize we're the only ones getting behind it.
User avatar #96 to #93 - crazyanimal
Reply +1 123456789123345869
(08/22/2014) [-]
The rational drinkers should be smart enough that this is for majority of the retards in the country. Waiting an extra 3 years to legally drink is fine. Then you csn drink til your stomach decays
User avatar #100 to #96 - devilofscience
Reply +1 123456789123345869
(08/22/2014) [-]
I only said rational, their still drunk that kind of impedes upon them being smart. please don't get mad at me for this joke.
#10 - anon id: a94ef3ff
Reply 0 123456789123345869
(08/21/2014) [-]
Most states you can drink before the age of 21, it has to be in the privacy of your own home. The federal law only applies to what age you can buy it and drinking outside your home.

Look it up ignorant *****.
User avatar #11 to #10 - infinitereaper [OP]
Reply -1 123456789123345869
(08/21/2014) [-]
Most countries have legal limits on all grounds much lower than the "goody goody we have the largest amount of prisoners on the planet" of the US. Lots of what goes on here, especially what is and isn't socially acceptable is ******* retarded. Our laws are all over the place.
User avatar #12 to #11 - slenderwolf
Reply +1 123456789123345869
(08/21/2014) [-]
Well in the grand scheme of things we are a much younger country than say England or France or Germany
#14 to #12 - montykarl
Reply +4 123456789123345869
(08/21/2014) [-]
While you're mostly right, We're actually much older than Germany. Germany was just a cluster of tons of little states until the mid 19th century.
User avatar #21 to #14 - Ashtaroth
Reply +2 123456789123345869
(08/21/2014) [-]
On top of this, the U.S. actually has the OLDEST continuously functioning system of laws and government of any country in the world.
#89 to #10 - kameken
Reply +1 123456789123345869
(08/22/2014) [-]
>On the internet
>"Don't make fun of things you don't know about"

That'll be the day.
#3 - anon id: 200b2c04
Reply 0 123456789123345869
(08/21/2014) [-]
18 years old
*can commit a crime and be charged as an adult (hell, this can apply to 15 year-olds)
*can be shot by cops and referred to as an "18-year-old boy"
User avatar #13 to #3 - definitelynotarab
Reply +4 123456789123345869
(08/21/2014) [-]
>Be 18 Years old
>Be a thug, enter store
>Beat up store cashier
>Steal money
>Run outside, oppressive abusive cops show up to prevent my freedom
>Racist cop tries to take my hard earned money
>I give him a fist full of freedom in his face
>Use my freedom to try and grab his gun
>Racist cop shoots me back and prevents my freedom of expression
>Get killed after robbing a store and trying to take a cops' gun
>Np, Media ******* call it racism and everybody believes
#82 to #13 - ohemgeezus
Reply +1 123456789123345869
(08/22/2014) [-]
thankfully 4chin or someone made a gofundme and the officer currently has more donations than the negro. Tumblr and Twitter are having a fit about it   
   
Up by 40k
thankfully 4chin or someone made a gofundme and the officer currently has more donations than the negro. Tumblr and Twitter are having a fit about it

Up by 40k
User avatar #43 - dbdbdb
Reply +3 123456789123345869
(08/21/2014) [-]
Neurological development continues until age 25 - mostly in the areas of reasoning and decision making. I know a lot of the legislation comes from that idea, that they don't want your already-inhibited decision making abilities hindered any further. Look at how many dumb ***** drink underage and go driving and other stupid ****. Stop being so closed minded and move somewhere else if you have such an issue. The comparison between a simple legal proceeding (marriage) and the legal possession (and therefore consumption) of a neurotoxin is null.

Although I drink underage every so often - I aint no cop.
User avatar #8 - demandsgayversion
Reply +3 123456789123345869
(08/21/2014) [-]
Your brain isn't fully developed yet. Alcohol could impede that growth process.
#25 to #8 - comradvlad
Reply -3 123456789123345869
(08/21/2014) [-]
A bullet to the brain can also impede that growth process... But you can join the military at 18 and get sent over to sand land.

So what's your point?
User avatar #29 to #25 - demandsgayversion
Reply 0 123456789123345869
(08/21/2014) [-]
At 18, you're mature enough to decide if you want to protect your home - but your brain isn't biologically able to withstand the effects of alcohol.
#30 to #29 - comradvlad
Reply -3 123456789123345869
(08/21/2014) [-]
at 18 (or any age for that matter) your body isn't biologically able to process large amounts of junk food and chemicals and stay healthy... Again what's your point?

Also you are saying that at 18 you are old enough to decide to risk your life to join the army, but apparently not old enough to handle the risks associated with alcohol?

You aren't making very good arguments.
User avatar #38 to #30 - demandsgayversion
Reply 0 123456789123345869
(08/21/2014) [-]
Joining the military is a conscious decision. Legally speaking, it was decided that most individuals at 18 are physically and mentally capable of choosing to enlist. It doesn't matter how tough or mature you are at 18, it doesn't change the rate at which your brain develops.

And your body can always bounce back from junk food. But impeding the development of your brain? That doesn't go back.
#110 to #38 - comradvlad
Reply 0 123456789123345869
(08/22/2014) [-]
Choosing to drink is also a conscious decision. There are a LOT of CONSCIOUS decisions you can make at 18 that can hurt you... That's the ******* point.

Why don't you educate yourself a little bit before saying you can bounce back. Here is one example:
www.diseaseproof.com/archives/children-junk-food-may-limit-childrens-intelligence-and-learning-ability.html

At 18 you can buy cigarettes... Just as harmful if not more so than alcohol. So how does your point apply to that?
User avatar #86 - levvy
Reply +1 123456789123345869
(08/22/2014) [-]
America is a Dictatorship
#104 to #86 - anon id: 5d664cb4
Reply 0 123456789123345869
(08/22/2014) [-]
By definition, it's not. It's a democratic republic, you stupid ****. By the way, you're the one who loves brutal communist regimes so much, so why don't you go choke on Stalin's cock.
User avatar #105 to #104 - levvy
Reply 0 123456789123345869
(08/22/2014) [-]
Stalin is dead.

But Stalinism did make the Soviet Union 100% more productive then the United States.