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User avatar #159 - rawrstomp (07/24/2010) [-]
Many people think smoking marijuana is as harmful as smoking tobacco. wrong!

Most weed smokers smoke the bud of
the plant. The bud contains only 33% as much tar as tobacco.

weed smokers do not smoke anywhere near as much as tobacco smokers, due to the psychoactive effects of cannabis.

Cannabis, unlike tobacco, does not cause any narrowing of the small air passageways in the lungs. marijuana has been shown to be an expectorant and actually dilates the air channels it comes in contact with.

due to marijuana's ability to clear the lungs of smog, pollutants, and cigarette smoke, it may actually reduce your risk of lung cancer. weed is also different from tobacco in that it does not contain nicotine and is not addictive.
User avatar #583 to #159 - bamman (07/25/2010) [-]
I'm probably going to be attracting a lot of negative thumbs here, but we really are not certain about the long term effects of Marijuana in the human body.

Most of these studies do not have a strong enough basis to be considered fact, most of you would say "Thats ******** " if the statistic wasn't in your favor.

And I'm not too sure about the "reducing lung cancer" thing. Even with 33% concentration of tar relative to tobacco, it still can't beat smoking absolutely nothing.

If you wan't an opinion on legalization, I say legalize it in California as an experiment. If it turns out well, other states will quickly follow, and if it doesn't, it's California.
User avatar #594 to #583 - rawrstomp (07/26/2010) [-]
the tar the plant contributes to your body is miniscule, add to that the fact that you dont smoke a pack of joints a day, at most only 1 because you dont need anymore to get high, and human beings living for a natural lifespan will be virtually unaffected. if you live for, say, 200 years, the tar may eventually become a problem if you smoke everyday. if a person can live a normal life and smoke weed, that should be legal. if they do something against the law while high, they should be taken to court for that crime, not for smoking weed. im confused as to what you mean by most of these studies arent strong enough. its medical evidence across the board. ill believe a medical board before i believe some hack on abovetheinfluence . com


User avatar #599 to #594 - bamman (07/26/2010) [-]
I'm not sure about this, but I don't recall any long term studies on marijuana use. Therefore, there are no studies that could link it to lung cancer. (Aka: Link Me)

If marijuana were legalized, the strength of the product would probably go down quite a bit. Less strength = More to get the same effect = Increased amount of tar by marijuana smoke.

A DUI is a good counter example to that last one. If the substance provoked the crime, they should be charged with inappropriate behavior while high along with the crime.

I'm saying we need to have a trial before it is legalized everywhere, not that it shouldn't be legalized. Also, we need to build the infrastructure (companies, retailers, blah blah blah). Ran out of space...
User avatar #582 to #159 - freshblob (07/25/2010) [-]
Tobacco is bad for you lungs
Weed is bad for your brain

Weed has some good effects too but don't act like it has no bad ones
User avatar #593 to #582 - rawrstomp (07/26/2010) [-]
*sigh*

the claim that marijuana kills brain cells is based on research done during the second Reefer Madness Movement. A study attempted to show that marijuana smoking damaged brain structures in monkeys. However, the study was poorly performed and it was severely criticized by a medical review board. Studies done afterwards failed to show any brain damage, in fact a very recent study on Rhesus monkeys used technology so sensitive that scientists could actually see the effect of learning on brain cells, and it found no damage.

http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/1732
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ive already posted this, but just for you ill repost it.
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User avatar #572 to #570 - rawrstomp (07/25/2010) [-]
it wont help his addiction to the cigarettes but the effects of smoking will be countered by smoking weed, yes.
User avatar #556 to #159 - SteyrAUG (07/25/2010) [-]
Just keep telling yourself that as you pump your body full of chemicals. No problem.
User avatar #569 to #556 - OnlyInRussia (07/25/2010) [-]
weed has no chemicals compared to a cigarette dickface
User avatar #568 to #556 - ronansher (07/25/2010) [-]
He's right, dickface
#577 to #568 - ryantwopointo **User deleted account** (07/25/2010) [-]
it does have as much chemicals... it just is never smoked to the same extreme as tobacco
User avatar #514 to #159 - RyanUndead (07/25/2010) [-]
wow almost the whole comment page is apart of this thread
User avatar #426 to #159 - demented (07/25/2010) [-]
And know you know. And knowing is half the battle.


...the other half is PURE CARNAGE!!
#229 to #159 - Patchers (07/24/2010) [-]
Only idiots think that pot is really bad for you, most people are not that dumb. The REAL reason there's a problem with smoking it is because it helps fund street crime, which is a problem that would be solved by legalizing it. So long story short, pot is illegal because pot is illegal.
#518 to #229 - theoriginaltyson **User deleted account** (07/25/2010) [-]
dude you just blew my mind, that means pot cant be legal unless pot is legal, which is impossible:(
#211 to #159 - theguybelowmeisgay **User deleted account** (07/24/2010) [-]
,___,
[0.o] - potheads charing their knowledge up in this bitch!
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#198 to #159 - 4chan refugee (07/24/2010) [-]
Holy **** ,did anyone else find this 2 F'n long 2 read? How about:Pot is Good,Do it!
User avatar #200 to #198 - rawrstomp (07/24/2010) [-]
a lot of people would find it hard to believe pot is good unless you told them why.
#193 to #159 - TDWPFTW **User deleted account** (07/24/2010) [-]
i smoke but not regularly and ive had no long time effects nor has it decreased my ability for sports nor thinking i just think the lobbyists are a bunch of ************
#189 to #159 - MissEmzo **User deleted account** (07/24/2010) [-]
Yes you're right and one of the reasons it's illegal is because the greedy Government don't get tax for it.
#567 to #189 - 4chan refugee (07/25/2010) [-]
If the gov't DID tax it, we could raise a high tax, like with cigarettes. It could boost a state's funds, which would be EXTREMELY helpful in this economy.
#571 to #567 - kaptinkush **User deleted account** (07/25/2010) [-]
but then it would cost more, and **** that
#185 to #159 - 4chan refugee (07/24/2010) [-]
WHY DO YOU FAGGOTS ACT LIKE YOU SMOKE POT...... MOST OF YOU ARE POKEMON LOVING PUSSIES
#231 to #185 - Patchers (07/24/2010) [-]
Dude I love pokemon and I used to smoke pot a lot, but I gave that **** up when I grew up. Didn't give up the pokemon though.
User avatar #182 to #159 - DietWater (07/24/2010) [-]
Also, when compared to alcohol, its much better. No violent feelings or stupid choices. Also, no hangover.
User avatar #160 to #159 - rawrstomp (07/24/2010) [-]
usage of a bong effectively eliminates all the harmful effects smoking weed has, making its harmful effects almost nonexistant.
#440 to #160 - 4chan refugee (07/25/2010) [-]
and/or my bubbler i just ripped 3 bowls out of :]
User avatar #372 to #160 - eldorito (07/25/2010) [-]
Brownies make it completely nonexistant.
User avatar #176 to #160 - SuperHyperCrazy (07/24/2010) [-]
So you can smoke weed
and any problems you get from it
can be taken care of by a bong?
User avatar #181 to #176 - rawrstomp (07/24/2010) [-]
if you use a bong instead of actually smoking the plant, then yes, because the tar does not get into your system, which is the only real downside of weed. you can ingest weed as well (brownies, etc.) which will produce the same effect without tar.
User avatar #184 to #181 - SuperHyperCrazy (07/24/2010) [-]
SO theres no point of just done weed then?
Beacuse the bong is like....perfect?
#206 to #184 - Eatmyass **User deleted account** (07/24/2010) [-]
yep, and the bong gets you higher so its a win win!! theres no reason not to use a bong
User avatar #190 to #184 - rawrstomp (07/24/2010) [-]
yeah, youll be hard-pressed to find actual scientific evidence that marijuana, disregarding the effects of tar, is bad for you. a few biased studies were leaked by the government that said it was bad for you years back, but they have been proven false twenty times over. as many have already said, the only reason its illegal is because hemp was so much cheaper than paper that it was made illegal to grow, or have. the only reason its still illegal now is because the propaganda machine has been running for so long that people actually believe it, never challenge it, and never search for factual evidence of it. they see the commercials on tv and assume it must be true that weed is bad for you, and never think anything more of it.
#166 to #160 - shatteredwindow (07/24/2010) [-]
As an anti-depressant, it actually makes you happy, not a zombie. For cancer patients, the munchies counters the effects of chemo so they eat and stay healthy, and also gets rid of the nausea, headaches, and just pain and and general sickness caused by the drugs. The main reason it was made illegal was because of lumber lobbyists who would get more money if it was made illegal because the hemp can be used for making rope and canvas and paper, and cannabis was actually an important cash crop in the colonies. Also, in countries where pot is legal, say Holland (Netherlands technically) pot is smoked less often by less people then in the states, and thats true with a lot of things
User avatar #179 to #166 - KSMO (07/24/2010) [-]
The founders of the U.S. grew Hemp (Marijuana). The Declaration of Independence is written on Hemp paper... -random facts-

They did studies on how weed itself, could get America out of its financial slump, and make us a prospering country...If the government legalized it, in all states, California alone would have over a $1,000,000,000 in tax revenue...crimes would fall greatly, because no one would be getting arrested for weed....but a bunch of butthurt *************** sitting in leather chairs in an old building said no...
#543 to #179 - Anomalous **User deleted account** (07/25/2010) [-]
George washington had a massive hemp farm. The dude grew weed.
#167 to #166 - shatteredwindow (07/24/2010) [-]
like counties where alcohol isnt a big deal (really anywhere else in the world) they have a lower rate of alcoholics and alcohol poisoning when they can legally drink alcohol, as it is so important that when someone in the states turn 21, they binge drink which is extremely unhealthy
User avatar #173 to #167 - Skullborn (07/24/2010) [-]
We have the same problem in the UK (Scotland in particular), the legal age is 18 and we have a huge rate of alcoholism. I can't remember if it was Scotland (where I live) or the Republic of Ireleand that came first, but we're the top two countries for alcohol consumption per capita in Europe. In contrast, France and Italy (where the drinking ages are 16 and 14 (I can't remember which is which)) there is a much lower rate of alcohol consumption and alcohol abuse...
#175 to #173 - shatteredwindow (07/24/2010) [-]
Its better there though, I grew up in the UK, I've already had my own pint before and Im 14 because its perfectly legal there in private. In the US, we can't even have alcohol under 21 in our own homes or with meals
#163 to #160 - 4chan refugee (07/24/2010) [-]
Hey. If the bong water takes care of our lungs.. if all the chain cig smokers out there totally 180'd to weed, just how much would we be polluting the Earth THEN? Or would it be totally biodegradable?
#162 to #160 - MagentaNinja (07/24/2010) [-]
but according to the ******** anti weed programs the government spend BILLIONS on, smoking weed makes your d*** fall off and land in an alternate dimension ruled by Hitler and Satan
User avatar #578 to #162 - nigthshadow (07/25/2010) [-]
"It`s pure ******** "
love that show
#579 to #578 - MagentaNinja (07/25/2010) [-]
what show are we talking about?
#394 to #162 - 4chan refugee (07/25/2010) [-]
Buddy, the anti-weed smoking programs are funded by the major tabacco companies
#168 to #162 - shatteredwindow (07/24/2010) [-]
Too bad the government has done no long term studies on weed and very little short term studies, and say that it will turn you into a complete dumbass with almost no evidence to back it up.
#178 to #168 - ZFiveFive (07/24/2010) [-]
Evidence - my school where everyone does it and everyone is a complete ******* dumbass.

They do it way too much. They have lost so many brain cells that they're damn near retarded. It IS bad if you do it too often; I would never do it but I would support it for medical reasons like depression or a bad back.
User avatar #565 to #178 - rawrstomp (07/25/2010) [-]
the claim that marijuana kills brain cells is based on research done during the second Reefer Madness Movement. A study attempted to show that marijuana smoking damaged brain structures in monkeys. However, the study was poorly performed and it was severely criticized by a medical review board. Studies done afterwards failed to show any brain damage, in fact a very recent study on Rhesus monkeys used technology so sensitive that scientists could actually see the effect of learning on brain cells, and it found no damage.

http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/1732
You need to login to view this link rticle/2159875/does_marijuana_really_kill_brain_cells.html

two sources to corroborate this, but heaven only knows if the url will stay up.
#180 to #178 - shatteredwindow (07/24/2010) [-]
those people give it a bad name. They are the kids that come into school stoned, but there ARENT long term effects that are any worse than things that are already legal like tobacco and alcohol
#169 to #168 - MagentaNinja (07/24/2010) [-]
our school tried to say that smoking pot makes you gay...
i'll repeat:
smoking pot makes you gay...
WHAT THE F***
if you want the truth about pot watch Penn and Teller's ********
#164 to #162 - tothemaximum (07/24/2010) [-]
dont even joke about that, it happened to my uncle and he didnt even smoke weed
User avatar #199 to #164 - Siaba (07/24/2010) [-]
made my day.
User avatar #574 to #199 - thecollegedropout (07/25/2010) [-]
long comment chain is looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong
#581 to #574 - CoolPuffDaddy **User deleted account** (07/25/2010) [-]
Just like my...
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