I like kiwi!. . New Zealand has been rated a] in human freedom WHAT' S THAT. Doesn't really surprise me, seeing that our government wants to spy on everyone. I like kiwi! New Zealand has been rated a] in human freedom WHAT' S THAT Doesn't really surprise me seeing that our government wants to spy on everyone
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User avatar #1 - astrozombies **User deleted account**
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(09/28/2013) [-]
Doesn't really surprise me, seeing that our government wants to spy on everyone.
User avatar #38 to #1 - crazyeyedbioll
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(09/28/2013) [-]
I dont see why people think they want to spy on everyone. you arent important enough for them to give a **** what you do.
User avatar #24 to #1 - whatsgoodyo
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(09/28/2013) [-]
I find it rather strange that people have a problem with the government spying on them when almost everyone in the country is willing to make Facebook accounts and just give away all their personal information anyway. We basically give them everything they ever need but suddenly we care about phone records.
User avatar #28 to #24 - kiratheunholy
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(09/28/2013) [-]
You know I really have to agree with you.

Though I THINK the reason people make facebook accounts is that they don't KNOW all their information is being sold to a multitude of companies. Ignorance is bliss, right?

In any case that's the exact reason I don't use facebook. Don't want any little facebookers to go doxing me and selling my information to penis enlargement companies or whatever.
User avatar #30 to #28 - whatsgoodyo
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(09/28/2013) [-]
I know that a lot of people probably don't know some of the underlying schemes of social networking, but the information is still out there. I'm just pointing out that there is some irony in it. The government doesn't really need to spy on us if we do it for them already
User avatar #31 to #30 - kiratheunholy
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(09/28/2013) [-]
I just wish people would be more careful with their information. A lot of people don't realize that just by visiting a website you can get information such as your ISP, and general area of residence. Or that if you give away your email address that can give away a LOT of information linked to you.

But yeah I totally agree I guess people just don't really think about it. Probably giving facebook a degree of 'trust'. Which is pretty dumb seeing as how irresponsible they are with the information they have.
User avatar #3 to #1 - supershorty
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(09/28/2013) [-]
Unluckily in New Zealand a new bill just passed legalising the spying on citizens.
Seems nobody is really free.
User avatar #29 to #3 - kiratheunholy
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(09/28/2013) [-]
We're still free here in Canada.... though it seems governments are evolving to start spying on their people. I wonder how long we have left before it happens here...
User avatar #11 to #3 - krasnogvardiech
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(09/28/2013) [-]
Most things are government owned and operated anyway. Bank of New Zealand, Air New Zealand, most things are. Personally, I consider it the largest and most readily accessible trade partner.

Our StudyLink program is essentially welfare for students, but better. And our ZeroFees scheme means that if we're approved we essentially have to pay nothing for courses in exchange for having increased bills and/or taxes later on in life. Essentially, no student debt.

At least, this is all I know about it. And this is just the programs we have for students, I have no idea what else goes on.
We're not technically free, but it's mostly for our benefit anyway.
User avatar #12 to #11 - supershorty
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(09/28/2013) [-]
Well true, but have you ever dealt with StudyLink?
most useless bastards on the planet. I once waited 6 months to get my weekly payments, and even then they gave me **** all.
User avatar #13 to #12 - krasnogvardiech
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(09/28/2013) [-]
I'm about to get in with them, and a lot of my friends are taking them too. Is taking up a job on the side a viable option?
User avatar #43 to #13 - supershorty
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(09/29/2013) [-]
Can be, but you can only work a certain ammount of hours, if you earn to much, they will dock your studylink pay.
Make just do enough hours so they don't dock your studylink pay and you should have a nice bonus.
And of course you dont wanna work too much that it doesnt give you enough time for studies.
#10 - xxDanvelxx
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(09/28/2013) [-]
Wouldn't Somalia be 1st since they basically don't have a government?
#15 to #10 - SirMartin
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(09/28/2013) [-]
thats true
#6 - princessren
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(09/28/2013) [-]
Apparently US is only # 7   
US is only #7   
is only #7   
only   
#7   
   
weeeell excuuuse me  princess
Apparently US is only # 7
US is only #7
is only #7
only
#7

weeeell excuuuse me princess
#5 - jewsburninindaoven
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(09/28/2013) [-]
Canada is ahead of the US too
#7 to #5 - Dun
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(09/28/2013) [-]
Denmark being tied at 7th with US? ROFL Denmark is often considered to be one of the most socialist countries ever by western countries!
User avatar #8 to #7 - herecomesjohnny
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(09/28/2013) [-]
depends what they're talking about, if they're talking about duly application of human rights and not governmental economic interventionism, then a socialist country could perfectly be up there like any other
User avatar #34 to #8 - madcoww
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(09/28/2013) [-]
I don't understand. Are you saying that a country that has something like universal health care (at taxpayer expense: a suppression of liberty) can make up for it by giving its people social freedoms (homosexuality, weed) and by not using tax money to bail out big companies? If so, I understand what you are saying, but you have to admit that socialism is an impediment to freedom (although not the biggest in terms of this particular survey), right?
User avatar #39 to #34 - herecomesjohnny
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(09/28/2013) [-]
i live in a socialist country and i don't see how a government widening a social security budget is "a suppression of muh liberty" myself
each his own
User avatar #40 to #39 - madcoww
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(09/28/2013) [-]
Taxation is essentially the government telling you how to spend your money. Social security is a coerced saving for retirement. Saving for retirement is a good thing, but why must the government take that money away from you in order to give it back when and how it deems fit? Regardless of whether or not the government is making the right choices for you, it is taking that choice away from you. Thus, isn't it a limiting of freedom?
User avatar #42 to #40 - herecomesjohnny
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(09/28/2013) [-]
wow i thought you were pretty right wing at first but damn you're basically anti-government
#9 to #7 - anon id: c007b5ee
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(09/28/2013) [-]
How retarded do you have to be to think socialism means you can't be free.
#32 to #9 - anon id: 08801ff3
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(09/28/2013) [-]
I thought socialism meant being taxed for the sake of social programs. Taxation is mandatory. Freedom is a two-sided sword: you are at liberty to do what you want, but you must accept the full consequences of your choices without anyone being forced to provide aid. Philanthropy is not socialism. Good people giving their time and money of their own free accord contrasts sharply with everyone being taxed into doing so, which is what socialism is about.
#21 to #7 - vikingesnumerouno
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(09/28/2013) [-]
you are actually retarded   
dont have children
you are actually retarded
dont have children
User avatar #33 to #5 - timmity
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(09/28/2013) [-]
BUT IRELAND CONTAINS 2 COUNTRIES! WHICH IS IT? WHICH IS IT?!
User avatar #18 - tomowrath
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(09/28/2013) [-]
Then lets go ******* invade them and consume their freedom
#23 to #18 - sirbadass
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(09/28/2013) [-]
True that. With all this crap about terrorism and weapons and eastern people and whatnot, when was the last time we had a good old-fashioned war for freedom?
User avatar #19 - luxray
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(09/28/2013) [-]
B-b-but we...
America...
Freedom....
Fireworks.....
Muh freedoms....
User avatar #2 - eattherich
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(09/28/2013) [-]
I logged in just to thumb up. Feel special.
User avatar #37 - crazyeyedbioll
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(09/28/2013) [-]
this information is old. get some new material
#17 - konradkurze
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(09/28/2013) [-]
< america actually had a nervous breakdown
#41 - halor
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(09/28/2013) [-]
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