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#12 - dadkors
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#91 to #12 - frostylasers
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Nited States of America?
#15 - durkadurka
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User avatar #10 - TARDIS
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Because terrorists don't put #terrorism on everything they send to each other.

User avatar #86 to #10 - lolzordz
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i hope you dont think its for your own protection lol thats really naive
User avatar #98 to #86 - itsjustblaze
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I hope you really dont think they give two ***** about what you yourself are doing. Idgaf, cause all they will see is i watch too much porn and smoke too much, then they will move on to the next person
User avatar #106 to #98 - lolzordz
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aww haha dont be offended my friend. you are right. you personally dont put the government at any risk.

but believe it or not, there are people in the world who want to do something bigger with their lives. make their own businesses.. become their own power. but are limited since the government have their hands in everything.

the government is too paranoid to let anyone rise to a certain amount of power, anyone who does this outside laws and regulations (which are basically limits to weaken the masses) are immediately dubbed 'criminals'

you dont feel it of course because you are at home, wanking. if you ever did try to start up a business, you would immediately know what i mean.
#114 to #106 - gerfox
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Yeah, I hate it when the government dub people criminals for nothing. God damned stupid laws and regulation.

I mean seriously, when has ever drugs, illegal weapons, tax fraud, murder, rape, smuggling, identity theft, scams or burglary done to anyone? I think they should just abolish all laws and regulations this instant, then we can live in the natural condition instead. Survival of the fittest, y'know.



Laws are there for a ******* reason, and the reason why they are "too paranoid" to let anyone rise to power while breaking them is because it's illegal - and it gives the criminals an unfair advantage over everybody else, or even puts other people in danger.
User avatar #118 to #114 - lolzordz
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ahh it would be very hard to explain something thats over on the other side of the wall to a midget. lets just say, those laws and regulations are broken by government every day and the things you say are laughable to a person with real knowledge of the outside world.

lets leave it as - youre the little bitch the government always wanted you to be!

by all means, thumb me down lol it feels like youre just humping my leg
#122 to #118 - gerfox
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Yeah, it's because you're the naive ************ who's afraid of the real world.

I'm so glad I don't suffer from paranoia like a lot of the conspiracy nuts out there. Yeah, the government are of course watching us. Yeah, of course they invade our privacy. Yeah, sometimes the government do break laws - but most times they are later punished for it. And also, many times, the government actually get something out of breaking the law - they manage to do something for the common good. I try to think about for instance terrorist attacks that surveillance has prevented, or other crimes that has been prevented - rather than bitching on and on about it.

Life ain't fair, deal with it - and if you had actual knowledge of the real world you wouldn't be doing a freaking crime, because you would know you will be caught.

I like how you just push aside everything claiming you have real knowledge of the outside world - just implying no one else has it, and that your intellect is above mine, or that of everyone else for that matter.

Of course it's hard to explain it to me, apparently the midget, especially since you're blind yourself, and you just imagine things beyond the wall trying to justify your own screw ups. Grow the **** up.

I don't care about how you feel about me thumbing you down, I just did it because your post was ******* stupid.
User avatar #129 to #122 - lolzordz
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yes its all imaginary. its all conspiracy. conspiracy is the new joke. before hippies were made to look uncool. you keep doing what you do, i dont mind. im just telling you from the start. that this whole surveillance thing isnt primarily for your own protection. youre telling me life is unfair, so you agree now? make your mind up Mr 'level headed person'
#134 to #129 - gerfox
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Have I ever said that life is fair? No, life can be unfair at times, you CAN get unlucky, doesn't necessarily mean it is the government who's behind it all. But the next time, maybe you'll get lucky. That's how life goes.

You're the one believing everything is a conspiracy, I'm just saddened by people who do believe in all of these ******** stories.

I'm Norwegian, and I once was a member of a Norwegian forum. A poster decided to do something fun one day, so he made up this ******** story about how the government mind-controlled the whole world by creating underground windmills who emitted electromagnetic waves controlling brains of people - these windmills btw. rotated at a speed of 20 000 rpms (and every blade on the windmill had a weight of 10 tons btw). He also spiced it up with the regular, "I'm a whistleblower, and the government will kill me if I come out with me true identity" crap. He then sent the whole ******** story to a conspiracy theorists site, they published it as a story with several follow up articles - and the comments section were filled with people blindly believing a story someone made up in 5 minutes with facts that are not physically possible. When he sent a mail to the site saying he was just kidding all along, and how stupid they were to actually believe him - they were angry and wrote back at him (of course). Then they went on writing a couple of more articles on the **** he made up, and rounded it off with a classic "the government made our whistleblower not speak anymore".

Morale of the story?
Conspiracy theorists are idiots who'd believe what you'd tell them 99% of the time due to their own paranoia.
User avatar #16 - responsibletim
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Obama is a terrible president and I am forever not sorry.
User avatar #59 to #16 - DrPeppir
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I think he's a pretty good president.
Sometimes I use a spoiler because I don't have the balls to show my opinion.
#65 to #59 - kmichel
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Obama has been one of the worst recent presidents we've had. I can't understand why liberals still support him when he's done so many things counter to what they believe in.
User avatar #67 to #65 - DrPeppir
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I'm not liberal, I'm just not someone who goes on about how Obama 'took away my rights, poisoned my food and raped my grandmother.' I hate both extremes.

I think every president has been called "one of the worst recent presidents" anyway.
User avatar #22 to #16 - largeheadphones
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I hate people who use the spoiler for everything
User avatar #23 to #22 - responsibletim
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I - can't - understand - your - accent. -
User avatar #17 to #16 - saltyfries
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it's funny, I wanted to believe Obama was a better president than Bush, it turns out their both terrible in their own rights, Bush was a dumbass puppet controlled by Dick Cheney whom both let the country rot by the last 2 years of their terms, Obama is the definition of corrupt, so many scandals in his terms it's not even funny, at least Bush kept in line somewhat, but Obama, good god never have I lost so much faith in a single president ever, but it could've been worse, Romney or McCain could've been president...
#18 to #17 - responsibletim
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I actually wanted Romney to win.
#19 to #18 - saltyfries
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imo Romney looked like a Villain from a thriller/action film, it also didn't help that he wasn't an advocate for women's rights. Also I think him being morman would've given him biased ideas for laws when there should be separation of church and state, and him being republican means conservative, conservatives like businesses to do what they want (laissez-faire economics), and when businesses are left to do what they want in a capitalist country, corrupt things are going to happen...
User avatar #31 to #19 - commontroll
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You realize the same thing about separation of church and state was said about Kennedy because he was Catholic, right? And pretty much every other President has been a Protestant or a Deist.
User avatar #37 to #31 - saltyfries
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while true I just had a gut feeling that Romney was going to follow through with making laws from his religion, considering right now the biggest stereotype I've noticed from conservatives is that they're very religious and like to force their beliefs onto others like Vegans.
User avatar #44 to #31 - psychopsychedelic
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Mormons are scary though. I'm a Catholic. So Kennedy doesn't seem that weird to me.

But Mormons man. The only thing I find scarier than that is backwoods southern baptist. Don't see many of them on here, wonder why?
User avatar #50 to #44 - commontroll
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I agree that Mormonism is... not a very normal worldview and they're very strange. Honestly if you look into the things they do, it's pretty cultish. But I'd say Scientology wins.

But, I'm just saying, the Catholics were viewed the same way as Mormons are now (well, similarly) as I'm sure you know.
User avatar #58 to #19 - Ruspanic
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I don't respect any criticism of Romney because of his religion. If he weren't a Mormon, this sort of thing would be called bigotry. There's no reason to believe he would have been guided by his religion any more than our past Christian presidents were guided by theirs.

Also the free market works a lot better than people give it credit for. The issue is when that money comes into politics, and you have rampant crony capitalism.

Romney was a bland moderate who didn't know how to pander properly.
#26 - specialone
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Still better than Romney.
User avatar #29 to #26 - kommandantvideo
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Ron Paul would have been best president IMO.

I could be wrong, but I think he would have actually changed the US for the better during his term. But then again everyone thinks that about all the presidents.
User avatar #33 to #26 - twofreegerbils
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Republican, Democrat, yaddah yaddah, their political leanings and policies are almost exactly the same.

Ron Paul 2016
User avatar #104 to #33 - failtolawl
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Ron Paul or one of his minions will come into office and find out that washington doesn't work like they think it does.
User avatar #100 to #33 - pokemonstheshiz
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*Gary Johnson 2016
FTFY
User avatar #87 to #33 - lolzordz
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you really believe anyone revolutionary will rise to power? really?

if ron paul ever did become president and do what the people always wanted, its john F kennedy time ************
#71 to #33 - kmichel
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By the way, the Women's League was quoted as saying the following before leaving, "The League of Women Voters is withdrawing sponsorship of the presidential debates...because the demands of the two campaign organizations would perpetrate a fraud on the American voter. It has become clear to us that the candidates' organizations aim to add debates to their list of campaign-trail charades devoid of substance, spontaneity and answers to tough questions"
#70 to #33 - kmichel
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It's true that the Republicans and Democrats are essentially the same, but as for 3rd party candidates I'd recommend looking into Gary Johnson. He's like a "Ron Paul lite" without the scary ideas such as eliminating the EPA.

Unfortunately, the RNC and DNC have collaborated to effectively prevent 3rd parties from ever gaining power. This occurred after the chairmen of the RNC and DNC took power over the general debates and the Women League of voters stepped down. The mainstream media is also against 3rd party candidates as shown in a study by The Atlantic. Not only do they give the candidates disproportional airtime, they only talk about them in terms like, "are they in it to win it"?, or "do they have a chance"? Even when a 3rd party candidate is winning in the primaries, the mainstream media omits that candidates name from the headlines, and even the story itself sometimes (see, "Romney in 1st, Gingrich in 3rd" with no mention of Paul in 2nd).

We need to vote only for 3rd party, but more importantly reform the system.
#7 - krasnogvardiech
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Because the world sucks and more and more people are starting to think that going on casual killing sprees are a good idea.
User avatar #6 - koneella
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syria doesn't have chemical weapons.
Syrian national coalition has chemical weapons.
Syrian national coalition is funded by the us gov
#66 to #6 - kmichel
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Yes, and the conflict is primarily about natural gas and oil, not chemical weapons.
User avatar #88 to #6 - unhappyspanners
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What's that? Assad said he plans to destroy his chemical weapons stockpile, but that it might take some time.
User avatar #14 to #6 - konradkurze
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USA and the CIA:
funding the very terrorism they claim to fight
#72 - imonaboatman
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There's so much hate on Obama. Yeah, he's lied and made mistakes (like every politician). But he's at least reversed some of the damage that Bush did by reversing some of his ridiculous policies and reinstating ones that Bush eliminated, and has funded many scientific advances (which we desperately need). He may be a lying politician and I certainly don't support everything he does (I'm completely against intervention in Syria, for one thing), but sometimes you have to choose the lesser of two evils.
User avatar #73 to #72 - ghostofgemini
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I mean, I would have agreed with you a year ago or so, but the NSA spying and **** is over the top.
User avatar #110 to #73 - scaryhumor
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that was to protect us 'cause someone might be planning to murder someone over the phone but they hear them and stop it.
User avatar #109 to #72 - scaryhumor
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im for it because next thing you know they may be coming for us he is trying the best he can 'cause just imagine if you had to do an essay or everyone would get pissed but then if you finish it everyone gets pissed he is just stuck coming into a country that is ****** .
User avatar #84 to #72 - noblexfenrir
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Science advances maybe, he really didn't do anything socially since all of the changes brought from them are simply culture progression.

However, none of that means anything when we look at what he's turning the US in Disregarding anything he specifically has caused, I'm talking about the level of control his policies are giving to the government, it's absolutely absurd. They are becoming more and more interweaved in our country and it's disastrous.

In the end, more bad than good has stemmed from his presidency. I honestly would have preferred Gary Johnson but hey, what ya gonna do.
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#76 to #72 - paradoxander
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PATRIOT Act and NDAA

Obama actually continued most of Bush's most totalitarian policies.
User avatar #77 to #76 - imonaboatman
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Yeah, and I don't support that at all. I don't think he's a great president. But at least he's been more in favor of scientific advances and human rights than Romney would've been or Bush had been. Bush was just a puppet president. Obama may be abusing his power, but he's at least doing some good with it.
#28 - mynameisgeorge
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Woah, one of the 3 "hot button" topics the peasantry knows about.

Can't wait to hear more on the evil, spying NSA

or The doomed economy

Also, the atrocity of certain states not allowing gay marriage.

Hooray for oversimplification

Inb4 10,000 12 year olds with "The Funnyjunk Guide to Politics" thumb me down
#30 to #28 - mitchr
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Oh, we oversimplify, that must mean that we're the ones who are evil.


********. What the NSA is doing is ********, plain and simple. I don't have facebook, nor do I have twitter, or anything of the sort on any social network, because I value my privacy. It's the same with my dad. The NSA is trying to violate that. Sure, WE're the evil ones for trying to protect our rights.
User avatar #34 to #30 - mynameisgeorge
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What do you think the NSA did?

Because, newsflash, all they have are the phone numbers and addresses of people. So does: Google, your local government, yellow pages, your insurance provider, your job, and countless other places. All they did was see how long certain calls were. Calls that were made or received by suspected terrorists. Just because they had access to random citizens' calls doesn't mean they listened to them. The only people with "their rights violated" (i.e.: had information that anyone can get) were people that were suspected of terrorism.

The FBI does the same things to drug cartels and murderers, and guess what, they can get people's information too.
User avatar #95 to #34 - noblexfenrir
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Curious, so what if I say I don't care what information they have on me, I don't care that they don't listen to the calls, I don't care that they don't use my address (Also do some basic research mate, they have ALOT more than that.), I could care less about anything they have on me, I don't want them to be storing my private information. I give google the right to, I don't give apple the right, etc etc. in general I choose who I give my information

So should the NSA have to get rid of my information and any others who simply don't like the idea of our info being gathered and stored?
User avatar #36 to #34 - mitchr
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For one, www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/10263880/NSA-employees-spied-on-their-lovers-using-eavesdropping-programme.html
Another, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program)
They don't just have our phone numbers. They can eavesdrop; they log who we call and when, and we don't even know what else.
User avatar #39 to #36 - mynameisgeorge
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Like I said "Just because they had access to random citizens' calls doesn't mean they listened to them"

You're a paranoid ******* retard if you think the NSA gives two ***** about what phone sex line you call at night.

In case you weren't aware 9/11 wasn't the only terrorist attack to happen in the US, and they aren't only caused by foreigners.

Oh and by the way:
www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/06/nsa-phone-records-verizon-court-order
The information they had was""the numbers of both parties on a call ... location data, call duration, unique identifiers, and the time and duration of all calls" but not "[t]he contents of the conversation itself".

Again, information easily accessed by anyone if they call your service provider and pretend to be you.
User avatar #40 to #39 - mitchr
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Wait, are you ******* kidding? Location? ****.

See, the thing is, I don't care if they haven't been listening to it. They have the ability And that ******* creeps the **** out of me more than anything else. There is no reason they might need to track my ******* location every time I make a call.
User avatar #42 to #40 - mynameisgeorge
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They aren't tracking your location, they're tracking people they actually give a **** about.

Unless you're planning on bombing something, you have nothing to worry about.

Your service provider can track your location too, GPS comes standard in most phones.
User avatar #97 to #42 - noblexfenrir
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"Unless you're planning on bombing something, you have nothing to worry about. "

Read Orwells 1984, seems like the perfect society for you then.

Are you ******* kidding me? So you would be perfectly fine with me placing cameras around your property, going through your garbage and collecting information you may or may not have realized you've thrown away, videotaping you and your family outside of your house, and holding up a voice recorder to every public phone call you make right? I mean you have nothing to worry about so it shouldn't be a problem.

User avatar #48 to #42 - daboomee
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Wow...you're a bit of a dumbass aren't you?

Think of it like this: Obama recently passed a bill allowing him to kill and hire hit-squads on American civilians without proof of them doing anything wrong. Think about that, Obama can legally kill whoever he wants, and has the addresses of every American in the country.

I know what you're going to say "Durrrr Conspiracy nut! Go wear a tinfoil hat durpedy doo!"

Go look it up, Obama has rounded up hundreds of innocent civilians and locked them away without any trial or judge, he just threw them in jail. So yeah, I'd rather not have a sociopath president having my address on his *********, thank you.
User avatar #57 to #48 - mynameisgeorge
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He could've gotten that information anywhere

Your town has your information too, and the president has the power to get that information, with or without the NSA.

If you're so ******* paranoid that the big, bad government is gonna get you, why post anti -American/anti-Obama **** on the internet, when the almighty government can just track your IP and put you in one of their secret death camps.
User avatar #46 to #42 - trollchildxy
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Yes, while that is all fine and dandy. We don't really know what all the NSA has done or could do. All I know is they are another group of assholes okay with throwing the "Because we thought you/he/she might be/have-been a terrorist." gambit around for violating the fourth amendment, get a ******* warrant.
User avatar #49 to #46 - mynameisgeorge
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You're aware that searching someone with probable cause is part of the 4th amendment, right?

Like if someone has burned a government building, they can observe that person.
User avatar #52 to #49 - trollchildxy
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Yes you're absolutely right. But not everyone they observed, in fact probably a super-minority of the people the observe have done anything legally recognized as a crime, or even worthy of suspicion. These people were probably seen in a grocery store waving at someone the NSA knows is a terrorist and decided the, completely unaware their acquaintance was a terrorist, civilian is in need of some violation.
www.nationaljournal.com/nationalsecurity/nsa-spying-appears-to-stem-from-550-word-section-of-patriot-act-20130607
User avatar #51 to #49 - mitchr
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Yes. And so if an Al-Qaeda terrorist hijacks a plane, they can track every US citizen?

What the ****.
User avatar #54 to #51 - mynameisgeorge
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So you bitch when the government does it

But not when any private company does it

I repeat, terrorists aren't just foreigners.

Bill Ayers bombed the ******* pentagon and got away with it. The Boston Bomber went to school in America.

Google can track you too, and they have access to all your emails on their site.

User avatar #56 to #54 - mitchr
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Yes. But one: I trust Google. I don't trust Apple, I don't trust EA. I'll trust Google, at least. Also: Do read all of my comments. I already said that I would be just as pissed if a private company did it. I know some do, yes. There's ******** I can do about it.

But you know what we can do something about? The constitution's abuse. We're making laws that say that the Constitution only applies in these circumstances. That's unconstitutional. That's wrong. We are subverting the highest law of the US for the purpose of catching "terrorists". We are, as I said, playing right into their hands, terrified, scared, scared of anything that could be a terrorist, enough to let our rights be taken.

I won't have my ******* rights be taken. I won't have anyone's rights ******* taken. Constitutional rights are above all else. Above all laws in our nation. You cannot take those away; you can't make it so those don't apply.
User avatar #60 to #56 - mynameisgeorge
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By saying Google can do it and Apple and EA can't is "unconstitutional" too because you're giving exceptions.

I'm not afraid of terrorists, I just think everyone just blows **** out of proportion because they think they'll look smart because everyone else is talking about it.

**** like this has been going on for years with a bunch of different government agencies and private companies alike, but people decide to bitch now because they wanna look smart in front of their Facebook/Funnyjunk peers.

Constitutional rights are above all else, but precedent is what determines the interpretation of those rights. If we have a precedent of this, it's not unconstitutional because the Constitution allows the judicial branch to interpret the laws. If the Supreme Court hasn't declared it unconstitutional, then according to the Constitution, it isn't.
User avatar #64 to #60 - mitchr
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Who the hell said I didn't think they could? They all can. It's called a contract. The contract for the USA is called the Constitution, but contracts go both ways. No more can I break it than can the government.


They break it anyways.

And who the **** talks about it to look smart? I'm not. Perhaps other people are. But what I'm doing is speaking up because it's ********, and I want to change it.

Moreover, the Supreme Court HAS declared segregation constitutional before. They reversed it years later. What they decide is ridiculous. Somebody would have to challenge the laws for them to be declared unconstitutional.
User avatar #47 to #42 - mitchr
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Yeah, but they aren't the government.


See, there are laws in place keeping both government and private companies from doing things like this.
If Verizon Wireless employees started wiretapping their ex-girlfriends, I'd be just as pissed. The NSA, however, gets off, because they're a ******* government agency, and "OH BUT IT CAN HELP PREVENT TERRORISM" **** that.

Honestly, it's been ten years since 9/11. Every single prevention system we've put in place has just created paranoia about terrorism, and now this **** happens. We ******* played into their hands. We're crumbling because we are ******* doing EXACTLY what they want. We're terrified. Oh, this could be a terrorist, 'random' search. Oh, this could maybe possibly not-really stop a terrorist, let's all drop our pants and bend over for the NSA. ********. We ended up terrified. Terrorism is the boogeyman of the USA. We ******* did exactly what they wanted us

Do you not understand? It's not that they use it, or don't, it's that they CAN. That they can do **** like this and not get away. When we're so scared that we won't stand up to ******** that is unconstitutional, then the terrorists have won.
User avatar #32 to #30 - bitchplzzz
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go swallow dick, fagget
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