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User avatar #1 - osamathemamalama (09/16/2013) [-]
I never seen this one before. Thanks for sharing!
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User avatar #14 - traelos (09/17/2013) [-]
But...but if you literally avoided all of those you would be entirely incapable of expressing a differing viewpoint from anyone else.

I mean Middle Ground is a logical fallacy now?
User avatar #15 to #14 - thenewgizmobox (09/17/2013) [-]
the middle ground one is just about immediately thinking the middle ground is correct without question.
User avatar #16 to #15 - traelos (09/17/2013) [-]
But isn't that "special pleading"?

"The middle ground is overarching and silly"

"But it only counts if you assume the middle ground is correct without question".
User avatar #17 to #16 - thenewgizmobox (09/17/2013) [-]
well, special pleading is again making assumptions without question. the middle ground fallacy is just stating that the middle ground isn't always right, don't just assume so, do your homework.
User avatar #18 to #17 - traelos (09/17/2013) [-]
But that's giving "special pleading" to special pleading as well.

If none of these count unless they were "done without researching it first" then they're not really very valid are they?
User avatar #19 to #18 - thenewgizmobox (09/17/2013) [-]
but that's not it, guh, i'm an idiot trying to explain things, this might take a while bear with me.
all of these logical fallacies are just substitutions people use so they don't have to use any real thinking.
User avatar #20 to #19 - traelos (09/17/2013) [-]
If you apply actual logic to any of these logical fallacies then you realize they are the defenses of a small minded person.
User avatar #21 to #20 - thenewgizmobox (09/17/2013) [-]
yeah, that's pretty much it
User avatar #22 to #21 - traelos (09/17/2013) [-]
I'm not sure you're picking up what I'm laying down here. I'm saying accusing someone of "Loaded Question" is the defense of a small minded person. Asking a loaded question is just good rhetoric.

That being said some of them are mostly valid, like "begging the question".
User avatar #23 to #22 - thenewgizmobox (09/17/2013) [-]
well, as i've said i am kinda dum, but i think i get it now
User avatar #24 to #23 - traelos (09/17/2013) [-]
at least you're trying.
User avatar #25 to #24 - thenewgizmobox (09/17/2013) [-]
User avatar #11 - jrondeau **User deleted account** (09/17/2013) [-]
Holy **** have I dealt with begging the question enough today.
User avatar #9 - Hashenmier (09/17/2013) [-]
One that I see all the time
"False counter example"

I say "I don't like X"

the response "Therefore you Y then, and here is why Y is so much worse than X and thus why you should like X in comparison to Y"

I was not talking about Y, merely stating my opinion on X, Y is irrelevant to that view.

More tangible example: I can call Poll Pott and evil person and explain why what he did was wrong, without automatically supporting Stalin
User avatar #12 to #9 - jrondeau **User deleted account** (09/17/2013) [-]
I think that's black or white (bottom left).
User avatar #13 to #12 - Hashenmier (09/17/2013) [-]
I'd say the difference between the two is that black and white are related things, whereas false counter example uses un related things
#7 - stythax (09/17/2013) [-]
One that should be up there is "Whitewashing"
Like what Muslims do when we quote the qua'ran at them
and they compare it to the bible to make certain points seem less

Example: Muhammed (prophet dude) had a lot of weapons he named after gruesome crap like "Throat Slitter" and "Bloodthirsty"

A "whitewash" of this is arguing that the translation is off and asking if you personally read it from the original text, refuting anything you say as ignorance anyway, and then comparing it to the bible as Jesus had a sword for a time, something about fulfilling a prophecy about himself being a brigade.
User avatar #8 to #7 - commissarcrunch (09/17/2013) [-]
isn't that a strawman, the strawman in this case being jesus? or maybe tu quoque?
#26 to #8 - stythax (09/23/2013) [-]
Yeah I see how that could be a Strawman. Perhaps i dun ****** up as bleach drinker kids dad would say, either way you know what im getting at yeah?
User avatar #27 to #26 - commissarcrunch (09/23/2013) [-]
yeah I get what your saying
#6 - iffyjiffy (09/17/2013) [-]
in most of these guys' works, they were wrong in practice.
User avatar #5 - icameisawilostit (09/17/2013) [-]
Consider the following:

The thing about religion is that it's about faith, not certainty.
Laughing at someone for their faith will only make their faith stronger.
User avatar #10 to #5 - jrondeau **User deleted account** (09/17/2013) [-]
Faith is all well and good, but when it has negative real-life consequences (people saying that God will take care of their problems, preventing gays from marrying based on religious texts, etc.) is when people need to recognize that they're wrong, or at least need to take their faith and supplant it with evidence.
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User avatar #3 - schwowpow (09/17/2013) [-]
I remember having to learn these in a thinking skills class.
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