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#6 - anonymous (08/27/2013) [-]
The truth is you potheads don't give a **** about legalizing pot for medical properties, you want to legalize it so you can smoke it and get stoned, chances are you either don't give a **** about medical properties or just recognize it as a bonus.

Don't ******* say you want to legalize it for medical purposes, be honest. Otherwise, you look like a selfish moron.
#rantover
#741 to #6 - anonymous (08/31/2013) [-]
You're so right.
#713 to #6 - mantou (08/29/2013) [-]
OMG HE'S TOTALLY RIGHT LET'S BETTER NOT MAKE IT LEGAL OR THE STONERS MIGHT GET HIGH!!! srsly
#675 to #6 - anonymous (08/28/2013) [-]
Not necessarily.

Dr. Turman's research (Genetic Study of Geniuses, 1921-????) has showed that out of the 1 521 subjects, those who have experienced marijuana in their teen years tend to be less anxious and more socially apt than those who haven't tried cannabis at all. Although, the subjects who smoked a lot of marijuana didn't do better than those who didn't smoke it.
#667 to #6 - anonymous (08/28/2013) [-]
hashtag almost ruined it.

however your argument is too true to be ruined by it.
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User avatar #642 to #6 - ninjaspartan (08/28/2013) [-]
Totally I mean, there can't be a single person on this planet that isn't a pothead that legitimately wants hemp to be legalized because it would make lives easier in multiple different ways. Everyone who wants pot legal is obviously a pothead.
User avatar #626 to #6 - dongers ONLINE (08/28/2013) [-]
honestly i want it to be lealized for medical purposes, i have never smoked and never really plan to, if it becomes legal i might try it but i dont see myself doing anything more than trying it really
#615 to #6 - anonymous (08/28/2013) [-]
I come back, realize I don't log in, then miss out on 400 thumbs.

**** it, not going to log back in to look like a thumbwhore. My point stands that if you ask a pothead that he wants to legalize it for medical reasons but he only uses it for recreational purposes then he's a ******* jackass because in reality he doesn't give a **** and that's the kind of stoner I hate.

Glad to see a lot of people agree with me.
User avatar #606 to #6 - olesc (08/28/2013) [-]
What if I say I like the fact what this medicinal marijuana is doing but I would alsovery much like to get high
#592 to #6 - traveller (08/28/2013) [-]
I am not a partoker (get it) but I believe it should be legalised for it's recreational purposes because the government has no right to illegalise it in the first place. The government is ellected to have a certain amount of responsibility over the nation, by the nation. that is it's role, not to arbitrarily meddle in people's harmless recreation.
User avatar #569 to #6 - stupro ONLINE (08/28/2013) [-]
You're mostly right about that. Personally, I don't have any medical issues that cannabis could solve and I would like to have it legalized so I can smoke it without the fear of getting caught because it's degrading for somebody to prohibit me from doing something that's not wrong in any way and not hurting anybody. It's like someone one day tells you you can't whistle anywhere anytime. No reason, just because (I don't want to hear anything about hurting the pharmaceutical industry, I'm aware of that).

On the other hand, I one day might get an illness which could be cured or at least eased through the use of medicinal cannabis, so yeah, I want it for that reason. But for now, I just want it so I can get stoned and be relaxed while doing it, it's not like I completely don't give **** about anything else, but I will use "hurrdurr it cures cancer" argument anyway.
User avatar #529 to #6 - fukkendragonite (08/28/2013) [-]
I always thought it should be legalised, before I started smoking it. And I think it should be legal for all the various reasons. I care about the medical properties, and cite it as a reason for wanting it legal, but mostly it is about wanting to get high personally. But I did my research a long time ago, long before I was smoking the stuff, for a science project with school and my argument in the write-up for the project was that it should be legal for many reasons ranging from medical reasons, personal freedom, taxation, and severing the ties to the criminal underworld and harder drugs. It was many years later that I actually tried it, and my original arguments still stand from all that time ago.
User avatar #512 to #6 - yacoob (08/28/2013) [-]
I'm with this guy. I'm a stoner but I'm against medical cards. They should only be for people that actually need the weed to make their lives better, not so you can always get some bud
User avatar #501 to #6 - fitchy (08/28/2013) [-]
i want it legalized for both purposes, it was criminalized in the first place for stupid reasons, it's no different than tobacco.
User avatar #492 to #6 - drtrousersnake (08/28/2013) [-]
The only reason part of me wants pot to stay illegal is that pot smells terrible and the smell lingers for a long time
User avatar #483 to #6 - perdition (08/28/2013) [-]
You know, I agree. There are medical benefits to marijuana, great, we should be using them. But I've talked with a number of potheads who masquerade their want for weed's legalization with "the medical benefits are, like, so great", when they don't know a thing about the medical benefits but just want to get high even more legally than before.
#468 to #6 - anonymous (08/28/2013) [-]
oh noes you can also smoke it for fun!!!! Dont legalize, fun is bad!!!!
#451 to #6 - anonymous (08/28/2013) [-]
I could go on a rant about how its less harmful than alcohol, and how most people support it for both medical and recreational use, but you are clearly too angry and biased to actually listen to any argument i make.
User avatar #435 to #6 - rieskimo (08/28/2013) [-]
As a person who has used and will continue to use, yes being able to light up just as easily as it is to crack open a beer would be awesome.

My issue isn't so much that I wants my marijuanas as much as I think that the legislation against marijuana is short-sighted, uninformed, and generally dumb.
It's been widely known that marijuana is not nearly as dangerous a substance as alcohol for years, but we still have marijuana illegal and for what purpose? Because of a heavily developed bias not based in facts against it? That's just dumb, it's the same as saying "We don't want it because we've been told it's bad, even though it's not all that bad".

With marijuana legalization we could cut revenue to drug cartels, we could help improve the lives of the suffering with little to no long-term side effects, we can also stop bitching about legalization.

Do I want to be able to go to a "coffee shop" and spark up with some friends? Absolutely, but don't get me wrong. I'm equally against the stupid legislation based on outdated fears.

/rantover
#402 to #6 - anonymous (08/28/2013) [-]
SHUT THE **** UP and go smoke some weed then come back and see if you still wanna rant
#398 to #6 - anonymous (08/28/2013) [-]
Whynotboth.jpg
User avatar #382 to #6 - nigeltheoutlaw (08/28/2013) [-]
While I appreciate your angry assumptions about what I believe, I have to say that you're wrong. I have never used marijuana, but it's helped several of my family members with painful chronic issues (mainly insomnia and arthritis) and it has a slew of proven medical benefits. So yes, I do want it legalized because of the medical benefits, not to get high. Not everybody is a "420 braise it faget" loser.
#377 to #6 - anonymous (08/28/2013) [-]
I have been sick a decent chunk of my life and the only thing that seems to help besides strong and addictive pain meds, has been pot. I don't give a **** about getting high, I just want to not feel like **** . And as much as I am bitching about how I feel, I know that there are others out there who need something like weed for their pain too. Becoming addicted to strong pains meds is extremely dangerous. Becoming addicted to weed, no so much.
#365 to #6 - anonymous (08/28/2013) [-]
1. We want medical marijuana to go legal - We want to show people that weed is not only for smoking and feeling high, we want to show that it's a wonderful plant that has many uses rather than being just a drug. Is this a bad thing?

2. We want to give the control over weed to the doctors instead of politicians. We have ******* raids on people who use marijuana for medical purposes, because politicians and police doesn't see the difference between medical use and recreational use.

3. After marijuana will be released for medical purposes, there will be no further problems in releasing it for recreational use too.

Problem?
#345 to #6 - anonymous (08/28/2013) [-]
If it's legal and can only be prescribed by a doctor, then I'd say let it be legal.
But then again it may help the US economy, but I may be wrong.

But if it's purely for medical purposes, I say go for it.
#324 to #6 - anonymous (08/28/2013) [-]
Why not both?
#300 to #6 - shatt ONLINE (08/28/2013) [-]
its already legal for medical purposes in some places they just want to smoke without having to say they have cancer or some **** like that
#293 to #6 - Ragumshnagum (08/28/2013) [-]
I am what many people consider to be a "stoner." I use marijuana for recreational purposes. As such, I support it's legalization. And while it may be true that I do not use it for its medical benefits, that does not mean I use it "selfishly."   
   
Stories such as Charlie's help to prove that there is no reason why marijuana should be banned. Here, we have a story of a little girl who's life has been changed for the better because of it's medical application -- another nail in the coffin for why it is banned in the first place (which I understand to be the folly of a bunch of ignorant/corrupt politicians back in the 1930's).  Therefore, arguing about it's medical applications hardly makes anyone a "selfish asshole." For that to be the case would mean that anyone who uses marijuana for recreational purposes would otherwise be wholeheartedly against its legalization. Because, if one were to truly be "selfish" in this case, he or she would only be looking out for his or her own interests. Even if I did not use marijuana, I would still support its legalization.
I am what many people consider to be a "stoner." I use marijuana for recreational purposes. As such, I support it's legalization. And while it may be true that I do not use it for its medical benefits, that does not mean I use it "selfishly."

Stories such as Charlie's help to prove that there is no reason why marijuana should be banned. Here, we have a story of a little girl who's life has been changed for the better because of it's medical application -- another nail in the coffin for why it is banned in the first place (which I understand to be the folly of a bunch of ignorant/corrupt politicians back in the 1930's). Therefore, arguing about it's medical applications hardly makes anyone a "selfish asshole." For that to be the case would mean that anyone who uses marijuana for recreational purposes would otherwise be wholeheartedly against its legalization. Because, if one were to truly be "selfish" in this case, he or she would only be looking out for his or her own interests. Even if I did not use marijuana, I would still support its legalization.
User avatar #323 to #293 - rapsuskiller (08/28/2013) [-]
Exactly the way I see it. Thanks for the comment, bro
#288 to #6 - fjneedsanenema (08/28/2013) [-]
True, only no matter what they say they are selfish morons.
#287 to #6 - anonymous (08/28/2013) [-]
I would like to legalize it for the sole purpose of this - using this exact plant

I don't smoke weed.
#284 to #6 - KievLeviathan (08/28/2013) [-]
I won't lie.
I want pot to be legalized so I can smoke weed.
That's the number 1 reason.
Because weed is awesome, and I don't want to have to go to prison for smoking.
User avatar #280 to #6 - robbyarcane (08/28/2013) [-]
Honestly, i do want to legalize it to get stoned. it's better than alcohol imo
#265 to #6 - sanepane (08/28/2013) [-]
It is a bonus. Doesn't mean we can't be happy that the plant we use to get high can also save lives.
User avatar #185 to #6 - jajathezombie (08/28/2013) [-]
Pretty sure Charlotte and her parents want it legalized for medical purposes.

Yeah, I like weed, and if it were legalized, the main benefit to me personally would be I could legally get high. That doesn't mean I don't give a **** about people with epilepsy or cancer.
User avatar #227 to #185 - elitehacker (08/28/2013) [-]
except, you know, it is already legal for people with cancer and certain conditions to legally get high.....
User avatar #230 to #227 - elitehacker (08/28/2013) [-]
*with a prescription from a licensed drug dealer (pharmacist).
User avatar #455 to #230 - jajathezombie (08/28/2013) [-]
*if you happen to be in a state where medicinal is legal

*oh but the federal government can raid your house at any moment and throw you in jail
User avatar #524 to #455 - elitehacker (08/28/2013) [-]
there are 20 legal medicinal states and D.C. is legal as well. if it was life or death situation over some weed i'm pretty sure you could go the state over. however i'm fairly certain there are minimal amounts of cases with that predicament.

yes, so scared about going to jail for a plant. carrying under a certain amount and you're fine. or how about you do the educated thing and find a drug that has better effects than marijuana that is legal? huh?

i feel like i'm at a gathering of uneducated morons who just want to legalize marijuana in any way possible and use any means necessary.
User avatar #530 to #524 - jajathezombie (08/28/2013) [-]
Okay, let me ask you this: Why are you so against the legalization of marijuana? Obviously you must be vehemently against legalizing it, or I wouldn't be getting such a touchy response.
User avatar #535 to #530 - elitehacker (08/28/2013) [-]
i've seen so many smart people waste their lives doing marijuana, alcohol, and other drugs..

they spend a good portion of their time smoking and drinking instead of contributing to society and helping others. my whole lifestyle revolves around helping others (i'm an emt). there is no reason to smoke recreational, they say it calms you and helps with certain things, but that's only an excuse. most do it because they like the high. there is so much good left undone it's sickening and the lazy lifestyles of some because they are addicted to drugs isn't helping at all.

i know you can't get arrested for it, at least in my state. we've gone to countless calls where their is bowls packed on the tablet and joints lying around.. we can't do **** about it because it takes too much paperwork and they most likely have a medcard.
User avatar #565 to #535 - jajathezombie (08/28/2013) [-]
Some people are heavy smokers/drinkers and also very successful. Pretty much all of my mom's friends smoke or drink in excess, and many of them own successful businesses and live in one of the richest counties in the US. Just because some people can't handle working hard and playing hard doesn't mean such substances should be banned. We don't ban hot dogs when kids eat too fast and choke on them. We don't ban peanuts because of people with peanut allergies. Alcohol is legal, and alcoholism is a serious problem in the world. However, people should be allowed to make their own decisions. Adults don't need babysitters.
User avatar #568 to #565 - elitehacker (08/28/2013) [-]
successful ≠ productive
successful ≠ helpful

i didn't say that some didn't contribute to bettering society, i said that most don't.

that isn't a reason to ban hot dogs or peanuts tho. alcohol and weed have directly related effects on humans, most being negative.
User avatar #574 to #568 - jajathezombie (08/28/2013) [-]
Well then you and I are just two very different people. I don't see a reason to ban pretty much anything that is consumed. You're putting it into your own body, you know the risks (nice thing about substances when they're legal: there have to be warning labels of side effects). I am for the legalization of heroin. It destroyed the lives of my stepsister and two very close friends, one of which died of an overdose and another who tried to commit suicide. All three were prostitutes at some point and are now host to a plethora of STDs and other diseases from sharing needles. I have never and would never in my life touch heroin, and I will never again associate with anyone who does, yet I think it should be legal. People can make their own choices.
User avatar #537 to #535 - elitehacker (08/28/2013) [-]
*there not their...
User avatar #179 to #6 - liftplus (08/28/2013) [-]
i used to smoke it and i don't anymore because i don't see the point also it should be legal for both reasons
#116 to #6 - anonymous (08/28/2013) [-]
Remind me again why was slavery outlawed?
User avatar #40 to #6 - bubbabrent (08/28/2013) [-]
well duh
#37 to #6 - mrloki (08/28/2013) [-]
**mrloki rolled a random image posted in comment #89 at Engie's Robot Legs ** I want it legalized everywhere because I live in a country where it's legal and we have no problems with it...

I don't really care about stoners nor sick children, all I care about is that drugs aren't a problem in the society, they should be sold!
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User avatar #32 to #6 - daboomee (08/28/2013) [-]
Or maybe it's because people are tired of being thrown in prison for a ******* plant?
User avatar #164 to #32 - elitehacker (08/28/2013) [-]
what about opium, coca, salvia, datura, morning glory, hawaiian baby woodrose, ayahuasca, peruvian torch cactus, wormwood, dream herb, amanita mushrooms, and caapi vine?

all plants, some are illegal and some can kill you. sorry but just because you are going to jail because of a plant, it's not the plant itself that you are going to jail for, it is the use of the plant. while marijuana has it's uses it can also be misused like any drug.... not that it can kill you, but making some brownies and leaving them out for children and animals isn't the best idea. lots of the plants i listed are legal drugs that you can grow and some have better tripping effects than marijuana. so your point being what exactly? we shouldn't put criminals in jail for being in possession of a plant that can be used to create and sell drugs? usually you have to be a pharmacist to sell drugs, even some basic drugs like cough syrup...........

i'm lacking a real point in your disagreement. it seems like you are just hateful towards the law that is keeping you from getting stoned.. there are better alternatives.. educate yourself.
#412 to #164 - garbagebrain (08/28/2013) [-]
You do realize that there's a difference between a plant and a drug, yes? Ayahuasca is not simply a plant. You can't grow ayahuasca. You can grow the caapi vine to make the ayahuasca, but it takes some work to turn it into the drug. Same with coca. Cocaine doesn't just grow from the ground. It takes human effort to turn it into the drugs that you are demonizing here. Marijuana is a plant. A 						*******					 plant. Plain and simple. I don't have to cook it or combine it with anything else. I can find a marijuana plant and simply pluck a bud from it and smoke it. Not only that, but I can tell from your argument that you have maybe smoked pot once in your life, if even that. You don't just get too high and make brownies and leave them on the counter for your kids to find. That's not a result of the drug, that's a result of being a 						*******					 idiot in the first place. So before you go tearing into someone on a topic you clearly know nothing about, maybe you need to educate yourself.   
Oh, not to mention, for some of us, it's not just "the law that is keeping you from getting stoned". I have nerve damage in my lower back and utilize marijuana to help keep the pain at a manageable level. I'm not going to lie to you and say that I don't enjoy the psychoactive effects. But I would consume a strain like the one mentioned in the post to get rid of the pain without really getting "high".
You do realize that there's a difference between a plant and a drug, yes? Ayahuasca is not simply a plant. You can't grow ayahuasca. You can grow the caapi vine to make the ayahuasca, but it takes some work to turn it into the drug. Same with coca. Cocaine doesn't just grow from the ground. It takes human effort to turn it into the drugs that you are demonizing here. Marijuana is a plant. A ******* plant. Plain and simple. I don't have to cook it or combine it with anything else. I can find a marijuana plant and simply pluck a bud from it and smoke it. Not only that, but I can tell from your argument that you have maybe smoked pot once in your life, if even that. You don't just get too high and make brownies and leave them on the counter for your kids to find. That's not a result of the drug, that's a result of being a ******* idiot in the first place. So before you go tearing into someone on a topic you clearly know nothing about, maybe you need to educate yourself.
Oh, not to mention, for some of us, it's not just "the law that is keeping you from getting stoned". I have nerve damage in my lower back and utilize marijuana to help keep the pain at a manageable level. I'm not going to lie to you and say that I don't enjoy the psychoactive effects. But I would consume a strain like the one mentioned in the post to get rid of the pain without really getting "high".
User avatar #698 to #412 - elitehacker (08/28/2013) [-]
You can get in a frame of mind where that can happen. And even still, there are plenty of morons that do that. i've been on plenty of calls where a kid or animal has ingested marijuana.

i know nothing about it? i need to educate myself?
Lol'd hard. i grew up around it, my cousin was a grower of it and even he has stated on countless occasions that it is not only a gateway drug, it is also used mainly for pointless reasons. (btw he is also a licensed nurse and has had experience with it being used on cancer patients). i'm still lacking a real argument here. it still only feels like the main reason you want to smoke it is because you want the added effect or you are truly ignorant about the plethora of drugs that can help with your pain better than thc can. and since you seem sort of intelligent about marijuana, you should know that most growers DON'T ******* GROW IT UNLESS IT'S GOING TO GET THEIR BUYER HIGH. they don't grow strains like the one in the content. you should obviously know that already, even if you are saying the other plants i mentioned don't do the same as easily as cannabis, cannabis still is still used, in the majority, for the added effects. what does it matter if the others take a bit of tweaking? some are still legal for you to grow and can be made to use those effects just as easily.

Yeah i wasn't rejecting the fact of it being used as for medicinal reasons. Pain is one of those, although there are better alternatives for the pain you have as well... like i see time and time again, most people only use the drug for its extra effects and not for the medicinal purpose.
User avatar #712 to #698 - garbagebrain (08/29/2013) [-]
Funny that you say you don't see an argument here, because I don't see an argument from you. You haven't said much that I can consider logical. Weed is not a gateway drug, weed does not make you do other drugs. You know who does? You, and only you. If you don't have the willpower, not to mention the common ******* sense, to not stick a needle in your arm or go smoke some crack, then once again, there marijuana is not the problem...you as a person are.
And as far as me being ignorant about the "plethora of drugs" that can help with my pain, you can seriously go **** yourself. I've been on countless medications to calm my nerves from sending messages of pain to my brain, which are synthetic and gave me horrible side effects. I've also been on several pain killers and have suffered when I stop taking them. On top of that **** , consider just about every anti-inflammatory and muscle relaxer, and having big ass needles full of steroids being shot into my spine once every two months. I am well educated on my options. Marijuana does the most with the least amount of backfire.
#236 to #164 - anonymous (08/28/2013) [-]
Its not a matter of whether weed can kill you or not.
I'm going to go out on a limb and assume you've never been to prison in your entire life. Well it's not like what they show on prison break, buddy. You get beaten and raped, and you'll probably end up getting murdered. Now wrap your mind around that for a second, you're sentencing a person to be beaten and raped to death for smoking a plant. Dont you think the punishment should fit the crime? If you want to make it illegal, at least just make it a fine, dont send them to ******* prison. Prison is for murderers and REAL criminals.
User avatar #242 to #236 - elitehacker (08/28/2013) [-]
someone is angry.

anyone you're right i haven't been imprisoned, but i have been inside one and know it is a bad place. i'm not an uneducated moron.

a gun is just a piece of metal used for hunting... dynamite is a tool used in mining.. a chainsaw is a forestry tool... shall i keep going?

most of them get a fine for having a certain amount or a very short amount of time in county. which is a little less worse than federal.

now if someone is a dealer and has a massive amount.. that comes with a plethora of crimes. selling drugs, running a business without having it taxed, laundering money (if they use international banking with the money they get), ontop of possession.. and a few others i can't think of right now.. it is late and i am exhausted.

so yeah, i think it is fair for some. not all of them deserve it, but some do. your point?
#247 to #242 - anonymous (08/28/2013) [-]
...did you just compare weed to a gun or ******* dynamite? I think you just went beyond full retard.

Last time I checked, you can't ******* blow someones head off with weed.

Now, again, you're sentencing another human being to a rape room, for smoking a plant . Do you not see how ******* retarded that is? You have no right to decide someones fate like that just because YOU dont like their habits. Yes, I'm mad, and I have a good goddamn reason to be mad. The majority of voters have proven countless times they want this stuff legalized.
User avatar #517 to #247 - elitehacker (08/28/2013) [-]
that's beyond full retard? lolooloololol. ok, it looks like you ran out of a good reply to it. weed can be used for something helpful, as can dynamite. but they both can be used for bad. that is what i was comparing, the similarity in those attributes.. are you not intelligent enough to understand that?

like i said, the drug dealer is the one that deserves to be sent there. they are breaking more than one law not just possession. possession of it should be just a fine, and it is in some places.

and to your voting clause, the people have voted countless times that gay people shouldn't get married and they've won, your point is?
#699 to #517 - anonymous (08/28/2013) [-]
I can also kill someone with a kitchen knife, should we ban kitchen knives to? Oh, let's also ban baseball bats while we're at it! Let's also get rid of guns, rat poison, florescent lightbulbs, and just about every other goddamn household item you can think of. You can kill anyone with just about anything. Things like Dynamite and guns are DESIGNED to destroy and kill (no, im not anti-gun, I'm just making a point), weed is just a ******* plant to smoke or make clothes out of.

Now give me a proper answer you goddamn retard: Do you think its fair to throw someone in a rape room for selling and owning a plant?

If you say yes, then you are simply either a sociopath, a republican, or just a troll who wants attention.
User avatar #700 to #699 - elitehacker (08/28/2013) [-]
holy **** . how many times to have to go other this.

i'm sorry i said guns and dynamite and related it to your precious weed.

I SAID SELLING DRUGS IS ILLEGAL. YOU NEED TO HAVE A LICENSE AND YOU NEED TO PAY TAXES NOT DOING SO IS CALLED TAX EVASION. THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH POSSESSION. IF I WENT ONLINE AND STARTED A BUSINESS SELLING HELLO KITTY DOLLS AND DIDN'T FILE THAT THAT IS WHAT I WAS DOING I WOULD BE IN JAIL. JESUS ******* CHRIST. ARE YOU THAT THICK? DO YOU UNDERSTAND IT NOW?

OK. DO YOU UNDERSTAND
OR DO I HAVE TO KEEP REITERATING FACTS THAT EVEN MY 8 YEAR OLD BROTHER UNDERSTANDS?

I said it was wrong to throw people in jail for possession of weed, even though i've never heard of a case like that... and growing it on a mass scale, even for personal use, can't be proven that you aren't selling it so that's why they throw you in jail.
#701 to #700 - anonymous (08/28/2013) [-]
Are you mad? Because I have a strange hunch that you might be a little angry right now. Just calm down, step back from the keyboard, take deep breathes, and count to 10. You'll be okay buddy, I promise.

Anyway, it doesn't matter if someones is selling weed, possesses weed, smokes it, or just makes ******* hemp cloth out of it, the government has no right to dictate what you do with it. Like I said earlier, if it HAS to be illegal, at least just make them pay a fine instead of sending them to a ******* prison to be beaten to death.
User avatar #704 to #701 - elitehacker (08/28/2013) [-]
i'm irritated at the fact that you are being a moron and you still think you are intelligent even when the facts are laid out in front of you.

yeah ok. you make it sound like most of the dealers that do go to jail will get beaten and raped.. they probably won't cause they have experience with that kind of stuff.
#237 to #236 - anonymous (08/28/2013) [-]
I also know what you're going to say. "Oh well we live in a democracy! The majority of people voted for weed to be illegal"

Well all I have to say is, with bills like NDAA, ACTA, and this whole "NSA" business, it's safe to say America isn't a real democracy. Your vote means jack **** . If the politicians want it to stay illegal, it's going to stay illegal. The majority of voters have proved countless times they want it legalized.
#641 to #237 - anonymous (08/28/2013) [-]
**** you, those programs protect us and keep us above everyone else
User avatar #243 to #237 - elitehacker (08/28/2013) [-]
actually no. i don't care about democracy. it's a fair system most of the time but in general people are selfish and care for themselves. all governments can become corrupt and the media can easily lead the ignorant to do what they want of them. the U.S.A can be an example of that, it has seen better times. hopefully it will learn and we go back to the morals of the politicians of old, in most aspects at least.

i also don't i want weed, alcohol, or any drug to be legal to the public for recreational use. the whole idea seems worthless and a waste. they are for medicinal use, go find recreation in helping others or doing something more productive for society than sitting around smoking weed and drinking beer.
User avatar #244 to #243 - elitehacker (08/28/2013) [-]
scratch the 4th word of the second paragraph.
i accidentally typed "i" again.
User avatar #212 to #164 - skaffanl (08/28/2013) [-]
I am convinced that making everything legal makes it much easier for the government to control the substances and then they can make money out of it. Also, I do not believe your arguments are viable because alcohol can kill you and people leave them out for children and animals all the time, I also never leave marijuana or salvia or mushrooms anywhere to be found that's just common sense. I think the point is that you shouldn't put criminals in jail because they enjoy something that does not harm any human being in the process. And if possession of a plant that can be used to create drugs should be illegal then why don't we put everyone in jail because you can make meth out of normal household supplies.
#220 to #212 - anonymous (08/28/2013) [-]
Let's face it, most of you potheads don't really have control of yourself.

The only reason you stop smoking during a "session" is because you have run out of weed.

If governments make acquiring pot legal and far more easier to acquire than now, pot heads will be pathetic, unproductive, good for nothing, losers not just few hours a day, but 24/7.

And of course, this useless lifestyle will then become contagious.

Soon enough, society will crumble as half of the population will be 24/7 useless slobs.
#258 to #220 - anonymous (08/28/2013) [-]
Yes, we can see how marijuana destroys society, culture and all productivity in the dystopian state of the Netherlands, where people start to smoke pot, stop working, then starve to death because they can't afford food anymore, as all their money was spent on Pot.
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#251 to #220 - Rameak (08/28/2013) [-]
Brawndo has what stoners crave. Brawndo has electrolytes!
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User avatar #217 to #212 - elitehacker (08/28/2013) [-]
i was trying to state that he wasn't even smart in his own argument.

excepts kids and animals do get drunk sometimes. there are plenty of uneducated people who only want to do these things for recreation. alcohol and marijuana can put you in a frame of mind that you forget to keep them out of reach of animals and children. maybe you are smart enough not to but others aren't.

i personally want alcohol, marijuana, salvia, and the others i listed to be illegal for all recreational use. they have their medicinal purposes but they are already used for those purposes. if something new emerges they will most likely use it to help in that way as well. i am only for it being used in medicinal purposes. the recreational uses of it are repugnant and asinine. if you truly have some problem that can only be solved by using said item then use it. otherwise, you have no reason to use it.
User avatar #409 to #217 - klavi (08/28/2013) [-]
Tell me your recreational activities and I will tell you they should be banned because I don't like them!
User avatar #693 to #409 - elitehacker (08/28/2013) [-]
I didn't say to ban them because i don't like them, i state my reasons. if you are that dumb that you overlooked them at went straight into me attacking your activities... i like to work on cars, do yardwork with my neighbors and by myself and any other way i can do yardwork (like for a church business mail office whatever needs to be done), fix up computers for people, and i like to help people medically on and off duty as an emt. none involve buying substances to get high or otherwise trip out.

it should only be used for medicinal purposes.

anyway, i'm not gonna argue with potheads. they'll always come up with some ******** excuse and blah blah blah. you're like a kid that has had his toy taken away. many alternative toys, you just want the one toy because you're too simple minded to do otherwise.
User avatar #733 to #693 - klavi (08/29/2013) [-]
First of all: I'm not a pothead. I don't smoke. I don't know where you got that from, but prejudice like that won't get you far.

Now: Many of these substances are NOT being used for their medical values because, you guessed it, their banned. Even though scientists keep coming up good uses for them (read recent studies on LSD and mushrooms)
So you say getting high is useless? How about your yardwork? What good does that really do? (I must admit most of your pastimes look like work to me, seems kinda pretentious) So why should something "unproductive" I (hypothetically) like to do be banned, but not the unproductive things you do? I might go as far as to say that your yardwork is selfish and wasted as long as your not planting trees in the chopped down rainforest.

(And now I haven't even gotten into all the mind expanding experiences people have had with different drugs, why is that less important than your computer work?)
User avatar #24 to #6 - tradith **User deleted account** (08/28/2013) [-]
I have never smoked pot once in my life and I want it legalized for it's medicinal purpose and recreational purposes. I'm just saying if it's been put on this earth, let it be free.
User avatar #570 to #24 - akkere ONLINE (08/28/2013) [-]
Let's... not go with that last sentence, and just say "If it helps people with little consequence, put it in action".

The last thing we want is opium running wild and free.
User avatar #688 to #570 - basicargentinian (08/28/2013) [-]
I doubt that the amount of people who aren't doing opiates because they're illegal is too high. I think they have plenty nad advertisement by themselves.

(it could be argued that by being legal people could advertise them positively and influence "weak minds", but I also believe all advertisements for "unhealthy substances" should be illegal (alcohol and tobacco).)
User avatar #711 to #688 - akkere ONLINE (08/29/2013) [-]
You'd be surprised, there's quite a few groups of people that would definitely take advantage of legalized opiates and spread it, sometimes not even for reasons of personal gain, groups like college fraternities that transform it into a platform for hazing and such.

Legalizing something based on the premise of "because it's from this earth" is incredibly stupid, and makes supporters of legalizing something specific for medicine like marijuana look stupid. The only reason alcohol and cigarettes - two drugs that already harm enough people already - are kept today is because they're social norms, and illegalizing something gives organized gangs a product they can use to grow and expand moreso than any other black market product. There's no need to add another drug that we're going to sorely regret keeping to that damage.
#659 to #570 - anonymous (08/28/2013) [-]
ASIANS CAN ACTUALLY READ MINDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They can hear, and see what you're visually thinking. This is the absolute complete truth!!!!!

The reason a lot of Asians have completely expressionless faces is so they don't accidentally show facial expressions when people think things they don't like, find funny, astonishing, etc, and Asians segregate so they’re not nearly as susceptible to that happening.
Asians also segregate, and are untalkative to avoid accidentally saying things that are similar to what people are thinking and going to say.

Try thinking, and visually picturing things that are as wild as you can when you are around Asians, and look for Asians who give people dirty/particular looks for what appears to be for completely no reason.

PLEASE SPREAD THE MESSAGE!!!!! THE WORLD NEEDS TO KNOW THIS!!!!!
#329 to #24 - captaincapital (08/28/2013) [-]
take a look at alcohol. you can see what happens if you let the people choose.
User avatar #438 to #329 - frysandaburger (08/28/2013) [-]
Sure... compare the second most dangerous drug to one that has NEVER killed a single person.
#441 to #438 - captaincapital (08/28/2013) [-]
gee

I wonder why it hasnt killed a single person
probably not because its illegal and barely anybody uses it because of that

nope
#516 to #441 - beardman (08/28/2013) [-]
Hey look! Another uneducated 13 year old on FunnyJunk! Marijuana is widely used all around the world, it's even considered to be the most used drug ever, behind alcohol and tobacco of course. I hope you're trolling, I really do. Because if not then you have a lot to be educated on, don't post in a thread about marijuana when you know nothing about it. (and don't go ranting about how I'm a stupid stoner, I don't smoke weed)
#484 to #441 - anonymous (08/28/2013) [-]
"barely anybody uses it"

wat
#444 to #441 - frysandaburger (08/28/2013) [-]
Look, I've had problems with an emotional dependency on pot. However it is literally impossible to die due to tetrahydro-cannibinol. Those who have died from lung cancer that smoked pot, likewise also smoked cigarettes. I'm not saying smoking anything is healthy, what I am saying is that Marijuana is one of, if not THE least dangerous drug one can do, yet is classified as a Category one substance along with Crystal meth and heroin. THAT is a fact that startles me.
#219 to #24 - anonymous (08/28/2013) [-]
>Not samefag anon. Just some random anon.

"I'm just saying if it's been put on this earth, let it be free."

Serial killers are humans whom have been put on this Earth.
Should we start releasing convicted killers onto the streets now.

There a ******** of things that have been put on this Earth both naturally and man made, and many of them have like weed have more negative than positive effects (some more than others of course) that doesn't mean people should use these things.

In conclusion, I can eat a bowl of alphabet cereal and **** out a better logic than yours.
#263 to #219 - sanepane (08/28/2013) [-]
It's not like cannabis hasn't been used as medicine around the world for 5000 years before some geniuses in the States decided to ban it 80 years ago.

Yeah, more negative than positive, whatever. You don't see cannabis stabbing people (or killing people, for that matter).
#599 to #263 - anonymous (08/28/2013) [-]
Didn't they ban it because hemp was putting the lumber business out of business.
#395 to #263 - anonymous (08/28/2013) [-]
Saying that people have used it for thousands of years does not help your argument. Chinese medicine has been used for thousands of years but, its now considered mostly bollocks.
Whilst it can do a lot to help, in terms of medicinal and recreational use. But, I think it shouldn't really be legalised until a completely impartial study has found the short-term and long-term risks involved.
Just sayin'.
#467 to #395 - sanepane (08/28/2013) [-]
It's been studied for OVER 60 YEARS, with studies that have primarily focused on the bad aspects of cannabis. And yeah, their results have been lacklustre at best. 60 years of time spent researching the bad things about weed and the best they've come up with is the Gateway theory and weed making you a loser. Just to remind you, this is with an anti-cannabis bias.
#257 to #219 - anonymous (08/28/2013) [-]
>more negative effects
you mean appart from a hightend risk of lung cancer when smoked? Please explain.
#246 to #219 - anonymous (08/28/2013) [-]
>Another random Anon.
I'm not a weed user, and whilst I disagree that just because something is 'natural' it should be freely available, I do believe the weed is a viable product for both medicine and recreation, in a similar way the alcohol is.
Weed is quite simply not that bad, and even better in a lot of aspects than alcohol. Making it illegal is basically just repeating many of the mistakes that happened in regards to the U.S. prohibition.
User avatar #180 to #24 - ilovehitler (08/28/2013) [-]
I dunno.
Commies were put on this earth.
Commies should not be let free.
#613 to #180 - anonymous (08/28/2013) [-]
Durr hurr, 'merica, damn reds invadin teh coast line. Damn Pinko scum
User avatar #697 to #613 - ilovehitler (08/28/2013) [-]
>implying I'm even american
>implying communism isn't one of the worse ideas we've had as humanity
#355 to #180 - jabzilla (08/28/2013) [-]
doesnt like commies...name is ilovehitler. well I can see why you dont like commies. they did after all help kill the man you love in a way. im sorry for your loss
User avatar #480 to #355 - Welshhobo (08/28/2013) [-]
Hitler wasn't communist.
User avatar #596 to #480 - saberrr (08/28/2013) [-]
He never said Hitler was a commie. He said commies killed Hitler
User avatar #611 to #596 - Welshhobo (08/28/2013) [-]
But Hitler killed himself
User avatar #612 to #611 - saberrr (08/28/2013) [-]
Indirectly caused by the commies knocking on his front door
User avatar #520 to #480 - fukkendragonite (08/28/2013) [-]
nobody said he was
#21 to #6 - partisan (08/28/2013) [-]
You are wrong to think that everyone who wishes for it to be legal doesn't care about it's medicinal purposes. Not everyone is as heartless as you think.
User avatar #175 to #21 - elitehacker (08/28/2013) [-]
I think the anon was referring to the fact that most people want it legalized so they can use it for recreational purposes. while it is helpful for medicinal purposes, it is ALREADY legal for doctors to prescribe to patients that need it. this whole post is lacking in that aspect. it doesn't matter if you want both.. one is already an attribute of the drug. this whole post is just an excuse to make it legal for everyone in recreational use. i don't see why everyone here is trying to act differently. you can go get it prescribed for a ******* headache.

what's the issue again? most will still buy illegally anyway.. i think the gov't hasn't found the correct path of preventing illegal transactions of pharmaceutical drugs so they are holding off on legalizing it... not because they hate you stoners and **** . they could honestly care less. they see you as a way to make money and they want to do it asap.
User avatar #679 to #175 - vanillasmoke (08/28/2013) [-]
I don't like the whole "you stoners" we aren't second class citizens here
User avatar #695 to #679 - elitehacker (08/28/2013) [-]
sorry about the phrasing, although i get the feeling you know how i meant it. it wasn't supposed to be derogative, it was supposed to be referring to a group of people or the mutual attributes/actions of many people.

i think you were just looking for a way to make a snide remark because you lack the knowledge to come up with an intelligent response.
User avatar #738 to #695 - vanillasmoke (08/29/2013) [-]
nah man, i just thought it was funny, i don't have serious conversations on funnyjunk, i talk about harry potter and **** . besides elite hacker, respect the darker name bro. smoke trees live forever.
#452 to #175 - cabbagemayhem (08/28/2013) [-]
I don't mind people ridiculing drug use, but you when the topic becomes law, there's a problem. In a free society where all men are created equal, you cannot tell a freeman how to live his life so long as he is not committing a crime against his fellow man. If they so choose to live a certain way for whatever reasons we don't need to understand, no one has the authority to tell him not

If such things as freedom aren't that important to some of you anymore, then I better add that marijuana prohibition has caused more harm to society than there was ever hope for good.
User avatar #690 to #452 - elitehacker (08/28/2013) [-]
yes because i wasn't totally criticizing the government for being money grubbing whores.

although i think on the topic of freedom you have a bias view. how come i'm not allowed to kill myself? that is illegal. what about handing out drugs to minors? or alcohol? both illegal... what about stealing money? that isn't harming my fellow man physically but it's still illegal. what about selling a product without a license? again illegal.. but why? why do they have all these regulations? i'll leave you, the educated and brilliant, philosopher to solve that.

so, what was your point again? i'm confused. you tried use that you are lacking freedom because you can't smoke a joint. isn't that silly?
#706 to #690 - cabbagemayhem (08/28/2013) [-]
"i'm not allowed to kill myself? that is illegal."
Suicide has been decriminalized in western societies; though, who has the right to punish them if they do?

Your other examples all involve harming or infringing someone else's freedoms. They are an entirely different matter which requires a scale to judge with.

"you tried use that you are lacking freedom because you can't smoke a joint. isn't that silly?"
Absolutely not! Regardless of how negative the phrase "smoke a joint" sounds to you, in a free society where all men are created equal, no man has the right to tell another freeman what he can and cannot do so long as he is not infringing the rights of others.
User avatar #383 to #175 - nigeltheoutlaw (08/28/2013) [-]
In America it's not available medically in the majority of states though.
User avatar #20 to #6 - darksideofthebeast (08/28/2013) [-]
I want both.
I started smoking to get high.
Then I realized it helps me calm down and be more happy.
So I want it legalized for both reasons.
#49 to #20 - anonymous (08/28/2013) [-]
but you want it ten times more for the former, so...
User avatar #18 to #6 - mountainyard (08/28/2013) [-]
Of course not. As a recreational user of marijuana I don't care about any side-effects for me, be they good or bad. It's just a drug I like to use, like alcohol only with less side-effects and a shorter span of effect.
When I drink the alcohol will be in my system for a longer time than THC when I smoke.

I want marijuana to be legalized for two reasons; It'll (probably) be cheaper and it will be easier to get. I am aware of the side-effects, but I'm also aware of the side-effects of alcohol. The severity of alcohols side-effects are much worse than those of marijuana, so I don't understand how things like tobacco and alchol are legal, when marijuana is not.
#16 to #6 - kristernorge (08/28/2013) [-]
i want both
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