Hawking. . l have noticed even people who claim everything is predestined, and that we can do nothing to change it, look before. they cross the road." Stephen H
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User avatar #1 - flemsdfer ONLINE (08/23/2013) [+] (16 replies)
Because they are predestined to look before crossing. Who are they to change fate?
#8 - improbable (08/23/2013) [-]
maybe they were predestined to look before they walk
#27 - englman ONLINE (08/23/2013) [+] (63 replies)
WARNING- DO NOT READ THIS IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE WAY YOU CURRENTLY VIEW REALITY.   
   
This type of thing has been infuriating me for over a year now.   
Deterministic Philosophy   
Throwing a rock makes it move. Simple. Well basically, Deterministic Philosophy is that idea times a Decillion. Starting at the time of the Big Bang, the 'rock' was 'thrown.' Physics then followed the natural course. The 'rock' (bang) 'created' everything, then everything eventually turns into whatever it's 'meant' to turn into (a star, galaxy, black hole, Earth, organisms, people, etc.) Now hold on. It gets to the very first organisms, okay? Would you say that bacteria have 'Free-Will'? Not likely. They're complicated (but some of the most simple, as of now) BioPhysics. They're essentially 'running' like a living computer code. This 'computer code' would be a direct result of the initial 'throw' in the beginning.   
   
Now my hang-up is somewhere along the way, the idea of 'Free-Will' comes about.. We believe we have Free-Will and feel like we dictate our own actions, but do we? Or are these just tricks that our ego plays on us? Are we actually just an insanely complex version of the bacteria example?   
All of our decisions, thoughts, actions, etc are basically the result of our Environment and our personal Biology/Chemistry. Nooooow.. Biology and Chemistry follow the same laws of Physics. Our thoughts are Biochemical. Do you see where I'm going?.. Thus is everything that ever happens in the entire Universe (every thought, intimate moment, star death, galaxy formation, etc.) already 'Pre-written' in a sense?   
   
The only way I can imagine we could truly have Free-Will, would be if there was some form of thinking that didn't involve any 'Domino-effects'. (I believe 'Causality-Free Thinking' might be accurate). That, or maybe there's an answer hidden in Higher Spatial Dimensions (Which if there is, we will never know).   
Otherwise, are we seriously just a complex, living, 3D, 'program' of sorts?
WARNING- DO NOT READ THIS IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE WAY YOU CURRENTLY VIEW REALITY.

This type of thing has been infuriating me for over a year now.
Deterministic Philosophy
Throwing a rock makes it move. Simple. Well basically, Deterministic Philosophy is that idea times a Decillion. Starting at the time of the Big Bang, the 'rock' was 'thrown.' Physics then followed the natural course. The 'rock' (bang) 'created' everything, then everything eventually turns into whatever it's 'meant' to turn into (a star, galaxy, black hole, Earth, organisms, people, etc.) Now hold on. It gets to the very first organisms, okay? Would you say that bacteria have 'Free-Will'? Not likely. They're complicated (but some of the most simple, as of now) BioPhysics. They're essentially 'running' like a living computer code. This 'computer code' would be a direct result of the initial 'throw' in the beginning.

Now my hang-up is somewhere along the way, the idea of 'Free-Will' comes about.. We believe we have Free-Will and feel like we dictate our own actions, but do we? Or are these just tricks that our ego plays on us? Are we actually just an insanely complex version of the bacteria example?
All of our decisions, thoughts, actions, etc are basically the result of our Environment and our personal Biology/Chemistry. Nooooow.. Biology and Chemistry follow the same laws of Physics. Our thoughts are Biochemical. Do you see where I'm going?.. Thus is everything that ever happens in the entire Universe (every thought, intimate moment, star death, galaxy formation, etc.) already 'Pre-written' in a sense?

The only way I can imagine we could truly have Free-Will, would be if there was some form of thinking that didn't involve any 'Domino-effects'. (I believe 'Causality-Free Thinking' might be accurate). That, or maybe there's an answer hidden in Higher Spatial Dimensions (Which if there is, we will never know).
Otherwise, are we seriously just a complex, living, 3D, 'program' of sorts?
#107 - texafornication (08/24/2013) [+] (1 reply)
User avatar #90 - dafiltafish (08/23/2013) [+] (15 replies)
predestination is not the same as ignorance of danger.
#21 - vonspyder (08/23/2013) [+] (14 replies)
maybe they were predestined to look before crossing the road.
#15 - stagger (08/23/2013) [+] (3 replies)


Philosophy: A route of many roads leading from nowhere to nothing.

-Ambrose Bierce


This man. I could quote him all day.
User avatar #99 - floraa (08/23/2013) [-]
maybe they were predestined to do so
#71 - pappathethird (08/23/2013) [+] (2 replies)
Well, it's not going against fate to use your survival instincts
Well, it's not going against fate to use your survival instincts
#52 - weenieandthebutt (08/23/2013) [+] (6 replies)
<Reminds me of this.
The whole Naruto vs Neji fight really inspired me to seek change in myself.
User avatar #141 - imcoolashell (08/24/2013) [+] (1 reply)
they were predestined to check if the road's clear
#164 - lulzdealer ONLINE (08/24/2013) [-]
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Although it could be argued that is was predestined that said person would look before crossing.
User avatar #138 - iLime (08/24/2013) [+] (1 reply)
I guess Steven hawking didn't.
User avatar #95 - asheskirata ONLINE (08/23/2013) [-]
What I find amusing is when people try to excuse their cognitive dissonances, which is what he's talking about, with this whole "I have faith" thing.

As Dr. Gregory House said, "You can have all the faith you want in spirits and the afterlife, heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot, because you can tell me you put your faith in God to get you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways."
#58 - technoplasm **User deleted account** (08/23/2013) [+] (1 reply)
What if they were destined to look?

pic unrelated
User avatar #64 to #58 - technoplasm **User deleted account** (08/23/2013) [-]
Attention everybody on this website who gets off to being a ******* douchebag to others even though they accomplish nothing: I have recently discovered that this statement has been said before in the comments section.

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User avatar #35 - benjamino (08/23/2013) [+] (4 replies)
Read it in his voice
User avatar #5 - TropicThunder (08/23/2013) [-]
Ironic that he only look's one way.
#136 - ainise (08/24/2013) [-]
I have trouble imagining Hawking saying something as inane as this...
Mind you I'm completely agnostic of any of these beliefs, I don't really even think about it outside of "Maybe, but who the **** cares?" however I understand both sides.

The movements of the earth are irrelevant to the ant, even if the movements of the earth may end this ants life. Getting hit by a car while crossing a road because you didn't look both ways - or inversely avoiding getting hit by a car because you did look both ways may infact be the universes plan. From the perspective of those who believe everything is predestined, you were always going to check before you crossed and as such were not going to get hit by that speeding van; or inversely you were never going to look before crossing and were going to die on that crossing.

In the eyes of those who subscribe to this belief, all of those actions were predetermined.
#14 - Cyraxx (08/23/2013) [+] (2 replies)
Yes because it was predestined that you look before you cross the road.
#6 - knowstoomuch (08/23/2013) [-]
For predestination to work, IMO there needs to be a doubt or lack of awareness of the predestination.
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