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#27 - ogvind ONLINE (08/23/2013) [-]
I'm neither religious nor Athieist, i used to call myself an atheist but then i found alot of  atheist pages and it was just filled with hate on religion, i mean religion is FAAAAR from better but gods sake, i can't handle all the hate...   
   
 just my opinion... if anyone should happen to care
I'm neither religious nor Athieist, i used to call myself an atheist but then i found alot of atheist pages and it was just filled with hate on religion, i mean religion is FAAAAR from better but gods sake, i can't handle all the hate...

just my opinion... if anyone should happen to care
#123 to #27 - grapefruity (08/24/2013) [-]
Don't be 'X' to be part of a group. Think for yourself, have your own opinion.   
   
Half of the 'Atheists' on the internet are just kids looking to fit in with a group to feel special. I am what would be referred to as 'Agnostic' (Sort of, in a skewed definition of it), but it is just my view-point based on evidence, and not 'Hurr durr lets all not believe in god right guys?'   
   
Your opinion is what defines you, not the label that comes with it. A good day to you sir!
Don't be 'X' to be part of a group. Think for yourself, have your own opinion.

Half of the 'Atheists' on the internet are just kids looking to fit in with a group to feel special. I am what would be referred to as 'Agnostic' (Sort of, in a skewed definition of it), but it is just my view-point based on evidence, and not 'Hurr durr lets all not believe in god right guys?'

Your opinion is what defines you, not the label that comes with it. A good day to you sir!
User avatar #114 to #27 - dwarfman (08/24/2013) [-]
Agnostic.
#100 to #27 - redteamgriff (08/24/2013) [-]
I think you might be agnostic, my friend, which from what I have gathered, means you really can't prove or disprove a higher being so you don't debate about it.

I take it as "shut the **** up and believe what you want", and my calm, polite response is "just don't cram it down my throat or I'll cram it up your ass".

all glory to the hypnotoad master religion
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User avatar #95 to #27 - rhiaanor (08/24/2013) [-]
thats like being president and just like "Well, I dont really like the image the other president's havfe so you're gonna call me king shapoopy." You don't believe in a god, You're an aetheist. It's not a ******* cult, its literally just nonbelief.
User avatar #93 to #27 - pacmanwakkawakka (08/24/2013) [-]
you used "God sake"
User avatar #92 to #27 - hourlyb ONLINE (08/24/2013) [-]
So you're agnostic?
#87 to #27 - tomtomvdp (08/24/2013) [-]
Atheism is not a club , that's the great thing about it , unlike religion you are not subscribed to a base of rules , for example the Christian bible . so any atheist is a man of his own , but i get what you are saying , if somebody asks me i say that I'm agnostic . Just because i think that it represents better what i think , and it's more "tolerant" towards those who believe in something.

TLDR - cool
#82 to #27 - anonymous (08/24/2013) [-]
You should probably base your religious or non-religious beliefs on what you actually believe, not what group you'd most prefer to be associated with. Religion, or lack of it, isn't about what everyone else is doing.
#68 to #27 - thempc (08/24/2013) [-]
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i'm only an atheist when i'm angry
you wouldn't like me when i'm angry
User avatar #70 to #68 - thempc (08/24/2013) [-]
correction, i would consider myself nonreligious, but not antireligious, except to fundamentalist overly religious people
User avatar #48 to #27 - skeptical (08/24/2013) [-]
gods sake
#54 to #48 - lordraine ONLINE (08/24/2013) [-]
Found the atheist.
User avatar #59 to #54 - skeptical (08/24/2013) [-]
psst
it was a joke
#104 to #59 - lordraine ONLINE (08/24/2013) [-]
So was mine. Didn't stop you from thumbing it down, though.
User avatar #122 to #104 - skeptical (08/24/2013) [-]
Think of it more as a deposit. If I found out (as I just have) that you weren't the one who thumbed me down irrationally I would (and did) thumb you back up. Sorry, I just thought the red thumb coincided with your comment.
#43 to #27 - anonymous (08/24/2013) [-]
You and me. We are friends now because we share similar points of view.
User avatar #36 to #27 - sinclairr (08/24/2013) [-]
thus you're agnostic.

Meaning you don't know what to believe yet and your opinions can change over periods of time and with facts. Being an Atheist every one thinks you're some devil-worshiping emo.... Meh...
#109 to #36 - popeflatus (08/24/2013) [-]
Who's the 'everyone'? Uneducated people?
User avatar #28 to #27 - asheskirata (08/23/2013) [-]
Buddy, you shouldn't throw away a title that describes you because of the bandwagon idiots who probably aren't even atheists to being with. I'm an atheist and, yes, I find religion to be evil. Now, what I would like to point out is that, just because I think that doesn't mean I think that I'm the only one with a valid opinion. Religion has done one good thing for society in the last 50 years and that is creating strong communities. Even if, in the American southeast at least, (speaking from experience on this portion) they are foolish and inept at dealing with anything that contradicts their beliefs.
#39 to #28 - destismad (08/24/2013) [-]
Strong communities, yeah, just like Salem.
User avatar #40 to #39 - asheskirata (08/24/2013) [-]
Yes, exactly. There are horrific ones like those, there are also some moderate ones, but all of them and I mean ALL of them are evil to the core. The only difference is how well they hide it.
#41 to #40 - destismad (08/24/2013) [-]
I'm pretty sure you're talking about the religions themselves being evil, not necessarily the worshipers, right? I know there are many horrible religious people, like Westboro Baptist Church goers and such, but not all of them are like that.
User avatar #42 to #41 - asheskirata (08/24/2013) [-]
Yes, thank you for being the first person to understand what I'm talking about You wouldn't believe how many people thought I was talking about the people who are fooled into believing this crap.
User avatar #64 to #42 - thereoncewasaman (08/24/2013) [-]
In this situation I like to say, ironically, to love the sinner and hate the sin. I don't hate most of you people who believe, I hate the fact that your beautiful minds are poisoned by these evil thoughts implanted in them. I hate the beliefs themselves, bigoted and blind as they are. When I criticize your faith it is not an attack on you, I am trying to open your eyes and show you the world from my perspective, to show you how silly and blind these beliefs have caused you to become. But almost no believer I have met understands that, they take it as an assault on them as a person.
User avatar #65 to #64 - asheskirata (08/24/2013) [-]
Uh... what? You do realize you just replied that to an atheist who hates religion, right?
User avatar #66 to #65 - thereoncewasaman (08/24/2013) [-]
Yeah I was elaborating on your point is all.
User avatar #67 to #66 - asheskirata (08/24/2013) [-]
ah, I hear ya, I just wanted to ask that question before I bit any heads off. A lot of people here on FJ seem to think I'm an asshole simply because I don't take **** from people. Then again, I do have an ego to match the Christian God's, so maybe that's a part of it
User avatar #71 to #67 - thereoncewasaman (08/24/2013) [-]
Haha that's not an ego that can be contained in this reality.
#72 to #71 - asheskirata (08/24/2013) [-]
Of course it is, because it doesn't actually interact with this reality itself. It interacts with reality through me. But now we're getting into all that metaphysics **** and that's just where everything gets weird. Lol
User avatar #74 to #72 - thereoncewasaman (08/24/2013) [-]
I meant it more as a joke (you equated your ego to god's, god has a giant ego but doesn't exist so he isn't a part of reality) but I feel where you are going with that and I like it.
User avatar #75 to #74 - asheskirata (08/24/2013) [-]
The human ego is God. Therefore the human mind is God. Therefore WE ARE GOD! Who'd have thought that? Seriously, you look at history and you notice that all of the Gods were created to have the mentality of a 5 year old who just broke his favorite toy.
User avatar #76 to #75 - thereoncewasaman (08/24/2013) [-]
That is very much true
#44 to #42 - destismad (08/24/2013) [-]
Not that I get into debates or arguments often, but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
Okay, I'm sorry, that's what popped into my head, damn T.V.
Anyways, I normally try to start with getting them to realize the literal reason for why they're religious, being their upbringing. Their parents teaching them as they were taught, and their school peers being taught the same thing. I've met a few extremely ignorant ones who said everything they could think of so as to not listen to me rationally, but some listened and thought about it.
Personally, I've always been surprised that religions are actually believed at all now. I realized it was ******** when I was 10 or 11, and dropped Christianity immediately, just shortly after Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy.
User avatar #45 to #44 - asheskirata (08/24/2013) [-]
Yeah, that's more or less how it worked for me as well. Reason doesn't work on a lot of religious people though, otherwise there wouldn't be religious people, to quote Dr. House.
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User avatar #29 to #28 - ogvind ONLINE (08/23/2013) [-]
True, but i only considered myself an atheist because i wasn't a christian, but now i actually believe in a higher power, but not in a million years will i worship any of the current religions, i just believe that there is more to life than what we see.
User avatar #33 to #29 - asheskirata (08/24/2013) [-]
I was a Catholic up until I became an atheist. Life, in my opinion, has the meaning that we give it, nothing more and nothing less. To give it a supernatural meaning is, also my opinion, to denounce the true beauty and simplicity of life and the universe.

The modern religions, especially those of the Abrahamic God, are all evil to the core bastardizations of the mythologies of the ancients. The Babylonians, Greeks, Romans, Sumerians, Phoenicians and Egyptians etc. all had stories and legends which were stolen by the Jews, Muslims, Christians and whatever else is there and picked apart and reconstructed to say exactly the same thing with a few different names and such.
User avatar #55 to #33 - shiifter (08/24/2013) [-]
By that logic, the english language, the one that you speak this very moment, is just a sick bastardization of latin and anglo-saxon, and those are just sick bastardizations of other things.

Do not mistake progression for debasement. If it changes, it's not bad.
User avatar #58 to #55 - asheskirata (08/24/2013) [-]
I'm sorry, but bastardizing stories from the epic of gilgamesh to use as fuel for an evil religion(The story of Ut-Napishtim from Gilgamesh is the original version of Noah) is disgusting.

Also, you just completely changed what this had anything to do with. Please keep to one topic and don't bring your ridiculous straw-mans into this conversation.
User avatar #60 to #58 - shiifter (08/24/2013) [-]
You sanctimonious asshat.

Stories change. Legends are altered. It's not a bad thing. It's just the way humans work. You think the epic of gilgamesh was the greatest ******* thing ever? It was made up! All so that the man himself could live like a king.

I know the folly of arguing about religion, especially with someone as self righteous and egotistical as you, but what you're saying is just stupid.
User avatar #63 to #60 - asheskirata (08/24/2013) [-]
When you turn something that was meant as a work of fiction into a story that garners more blood to itself than any other source in history, that is where we draw the line of good and bad. Also, you're showing yourself to be a hell of a lot more of a self-righteous asshole than I am. I never said the epic was the greatest thing ever either, you just put words in my mouth, like a cunt.
User avatar #77 to #63 - shiifter (08/24/2013) [-]
"garners more blood to itself than any other source in history"

Elaborate.
User avatar #78 to #77 - asheskirata (08/24/2013) [-]
You're serious? You're really serious? The bible, a.k.a. the book that has the bloodiest history of any book in recorded history, the one that gave an excuse for the Crusades, the bloodiest wars in history. The one that has stories of genocide, rape condonement, murder condonement, slaughter, misogyny, slavery condonement and infanticide in it. Wow, you are dense.
User avatar #80 to #78 - shiifter (08/24/2013) [-]
You're just so wrong on so many levels that i don't even know where to start, so i'll try to sweep it all up in one statement.

The bible wasn't the reason for all those things, human ambition was. A lot of things in the bible say that those things aren't okay, but those points were ignored. Instead, the words were twisted to accommodate the agendas of a few men.

Take for example, the law. Say someone commits a terrible crime, and gets off because of a technicality. Does that make the law evil, or is it the fault of the man himself?
User avatar #81 to #80 - asheskirata (08/24/2013) [-]
Oh my god... you really want to start using straw mans... First, I didn't say it was the Bible's fault. Second, go read the stupid book, all of those STORIES I mentioned are IN THE BIBLE. Third, you're an idiot and you should feel like one.
User avatar #83 to #81 - shiifter (08/24/2013) [-]
Their not strawmans, they're examples. But whatever. You're not going to hear anything from me that you wouldn't hear from anyone else. This conversation is pointless. You're not ready to hear what i'm trying to tell you. Maybe someday you will be, but until then, believe whatever contrived nonsense you want.
User avatar #84 to #83 - asheskirata (08/24/2013) [-]
Your examples were for a completely different point than the one I was making. The book itself is evil to the ******* core, it gave an EXCUSE for something to happen. I never said it caused anything, ******* .
User avatar #85 to #84 - shiifter (08/24/2013) [-]
Tell yourself whatever you need, i'm not arguing anymore.

Besides, you're getting real mad about this whole thing. I think you need a nap.
User avatar #30 to #29 - kyuubey (08/23/2013) [-]
Deism or Pantheism would probably fit you best then.
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