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#4 - snakefire (08/22/2013) [+] (41 replies)
The problem is some parents don't know where to draw the line. Some kids get punished for things that they didn't do, and others get punished too harshly for things they did. Hitting should be a last resort punishment.   
   
My dad has thrown me   
Slammed me against walls   
Punched me   
Or just plain yelled at me until I cried.    
Most of the times for things that were not a very big deal. (IE forgetting one of my many chores.)   
He still does to this day. And I'm not a strong enough person to hate him for it.   
   
So stop with your edgy 						********					 and think of the adverse consequences. I still don't know how my past will affect my future.
The problem is some parents don't know where to draw the line. Some kids get punished for things that they didn't do, and others get punished too harshly for things they did. Hitting should be a last resort punishment.

My dad has thrown me
Slammed me against walls
Punched me
Or just plain yelled at me until I cried.
Most of the times for things that were not a very big deal. (IE forgetting one of my many chores.)
He still does to this day. And I'm not a strong enough person to hate him for it.

So stop with your edgy ******** and think of the adverse consequences. I still don't know how my past will affect my future.
#76 - feelythefeel (08/22/2013) [+] (5 replies)
Or you can be emotionally and physically invested in your children and not beat the **** out of them. That's a thing.
#52 - jaypaul ONLINE (08/22/2013) [+] (4 replies)
Bad parenting is the problem. It's not a lack of corporal punishment. If a parent resorts to spanking, hitting, yelling, or aggression against their child in anyway they are doubtless not communicating with the child. "What you are doing is bad, but I am incapable of reasoning with you. Therefore, I must resort to spanking you with the goal of modifying your behavior by inflicting pain." The parent feels helpless to do anything about their child's behavior. This can be due to a lack of preparing to negotiate with their child effectively or for a myriad of other reasons, but discussing why the child is misbehaving by the parent's standard is arbitrary to the fact that the parent is using violence against a defenseless and dependent child, which by the moral principle of Universally Preferable Behavior (UPB) which entails the Non-Aggression Principle (NAP) is an immoral act.
Here are just a couple studies I pulled just now on why copral punishment is not the cure people believe to our societies social problems concerning miscrient children, teens, young adults, etc. Empathy towards children is key to a more peaceful future, because children are the future.

https:// sites.google . com/a/umich.edu/agrogan/research-on-corporal-punishment

You need to login to view this link www . sciencedaily . com/releases/2011/07/110726111109.htm

You need to login to view this link www . endcorporalpunishment . org/pages/pdfs/Summary%20of%20research%20on%20the%20effects%20of%20corporal%20pu nishment%20April%202013.pdf
#2 - icheatjews (08/22/2013) [+] (8 replies)
inb4 edgy teen/euphoric fedora

>"m-Muh Rough Childhood!!1"

Faget pls... You aren't any more special because if it
User avatar #5 to #2 - snakefire (08/22/2013) [-]
I don't know if I like what you're implying. I'd like to see if you would think the same way after almost having your arm broken by your father on several occasions.
User avatar #79 - lamarsmithgot (08/22/2013) [+] (4 replies)
I'm pretty sure most wiggers and delinquents are the way they are BECAUSE their parents beat them.
#75 - Keavy (08/22/2013) [+] (9 replies)
'Can we agree that...'

No, because you just took two completely random things with no evidence or even personal experience to back it up. You might as well have said 'Can we agree that with more penguins there would be fewer assault rifles?'
#196 - hundrings (08/23/2013) [+] (3 replies)
I'm so sorry to have this opinion at all, but I am strongly against hitting your children in any way, even as light spanking. I was never, EVER hit by my mother(my dad died when I was 2), and I have always respected her out of love and admiration for the person she is. She never had to hit me, and I think that as long as you provide your children with some sense and alternatives, you shouldn't have to use violence.
Let's face it, what you are doing when you spank your child is asserting your dominance in a frightening way, whether you intend to or not. That's the message you send out. The child will go on doing whatever you like, because they don't want the same reacton to be repeated. And ironically enough, the same people that were spanked as kids, feel that it's the ideal disiplining technique, and often see no other option.
#94 - pappathethird (08/22/2013) [-]
that's not how it works ... at all
that's not how it works ... at all
User avatar #16 - fuzzyballs (08/22/2013) [+] (11 replies)
I used to get slapped in the face with an open hand almost every day until I turned 14 and hit him back
look at me now, i'm an asshole with no friends
hitting kids doesn't work, it makes things worse
User avatar #362 - dafuqijustpost (08/23/2013) [-]
The only reason kids come out to be ******* like this is because the parents failed to bond with them more, slapping their ass repeatedly isn't going to ******* solve anything.
User avatar #251 - tenthdivine (08/23/2013) [-]
Nothing like a little father-son BDSM.

look at his face. he's loving that **** , little slut....
#117 - kupfner (08/22/2013) [+] (3 replies)
As a reply to everyone in the comment section;

Spank ≠ beating

There is a huge difference.
#38 - wheresmymarbles (08/22/2013) [-]
So, by teaching a child that if someone annoys you you may beat them, you teach them not to be violent when they are older? Makes sense. How about you just instruct your child and love them instead of making them fear you.
User avatar #214 - sweetdickwilly (08/23/2013) [+] (1 reply)
One of my old acquaintances had a dad who beat the **** out of him, and I've never met a child that turned out worse. One of my best friends has never been hit by his parents in his entire life, and he turned out to be a respectful, friendly, and bright person.
User avatar #216 to #214 - makonendrak (08/23/2013) [-]
I think the first picture represents discipline. You can be disciplined without the use of physical force, and there's no way in **** that having your dad kick the **** out of you can ever be considered discipline.
#343 - Schwarzenegger (08/23/2013) [+] (2 replies)
I agree. Anyone who thinks it's abuse, suck mah cawk
#346 to #343 - mrmamric (08/23/2013) [-]
Arnold, go home. You didn't have parents. A volcano spit you out into the ocean where you hardened to pure obsidian and began saving the world since the day you were created. You don't know what it's like to be a human. You are quite literally a very dense mother ****** .
User avatar #37 - friendlyanon ONLINE (08/22/2013) [-]
Guys, nobody is promoting children abuse.

Children abuse is when your father takes his belt out and lashes your ******* ass until you bleed. Spanking is not children abuse, it is a corrective.
Sure, maybe not the first one you should use. But sometimes children simply get out of control and you have to assert your authority as a parent.
#289 - pikininja (08/23/2013) [+] (5 replies)
I completely disagree. "Swaggots" or "gangstas" or whatever you call them are usually formed by parents that didn't give a 						****					 what they did, spoiled them to no end, and/or never disciplined them. You should raise your child with love and respect, not with violence. Violence is never okay unless necessary to preserve your life, and this should be taught to a child a very early age.   
Spanking does not equate with discipline. Spanking will teach your child to fear you, which is the absolute worst way to grow up; furthermore, the child won't break the rules because they are afraid of punishment, not because it's morally wrong and/or disrespectful to the parents. Discipline should be handled under three circumstances:   
1. Consistent   
2. Immediate   
3. Mild   
If you love your child, you won't raise your hand in anger at them.
I completely disagree. "Swaggots" or "gangstas" or whatever you call them are usually formed by parents that didn't give a **** what they did, spoiled them to no end, and/or never disciplined them. You should raise your child with love and respect, not with violence. Violence is never okay unless necessary to preserve your life, and this should be taught to a child a very early age.
Spanking does not equate with discipline. Spanking will teach your child to fear you, which is the absolute worst way to grow up; furthermore, the child won't break the rules because they are afraid of punishment, not because it's morally wrong and/or disrespectful to the parents. Discipline should be handled under three circumstances:
1. Consistent
2. Immediate
3. Mild
If you love your child, you won't raise your hand in anger at them.
User avatar #62 - sparkyoneonetwo (08/22/2013) [+] (1 reply)
You know people probably said the same thing when rock and roll and long hair became a thing. They probably said the same thing in the 80s when head bagging and metal started to become a thing. They will probably say the same thing the next time society makes a change like that.
User avatar #50 - useroftheLOLZ (08/22/2013) [+] (1 reply)
You can punish your kids without having to beat their ass, you don't have to have your kids be scared **** less of you, or hate your guts, just to make them well adjusted. Once they learn to hate you with every fiber of their being, they will get violent because you taught them that the only way to inflict a punishment or harm is by physically doing it. The faggots on the bottom are assholes who had parents who didn't want to play parent, and decided to let their child grow up under the guidance of their peers, and society.

>inb4 OP is a faggot
****** , I was seriously beaten as a kid, I was bullied horrendously in school, and I was beaten physically, mentally, and verbally, up until my parents had my second sister, or their third child, it still continued, but it was much tamer compared to before, by that time I was 12, and on the brink of suicide, because I had no value of my self, because my parents not being able to understand how to properly punish their child, or me. It finally stopped when I violently burst out my anger, and had beat a bully within an inch of death, and had to have teachers restrain me, otherwise I would have gone back and killed the ****** . It really stopped altogether when I tuned 14, when my father punched me, and I ended up socking him back, and ended up grabbing a knife to kill him if he came at me. This was when my parents realized that pain will only teach fear, hatred, and violence, and compassion will teach love, politeness, and compassion, under the guise that it is controlled.

tl;dr BE A ******* PARENT, IF YOU DONT WANT TO YOUR CHILD TO HATE YOU BECAUSE YOU BEAT THEM, AND DONT WANT THEM GROWING UP TO BE IRRESPONSIBLE BECAUSE THEY DIDNT HAVE THE RIGHT GUIDANCE. PUNISH THEM WITHOUT THEM HAVING TO FEAR FOR THEIR LIVES, SHUT OFF THE INTERNET, TAKE AWAY THEIR GAMING CONSOLES, COMPUTER PRIVILEGES, FOR ***** SAKE, GET CREATIVE, BUT WHEN YOU DO PUNISH THEM, PUT YOUR SELF IN THEIR SHOES FIRST.
User avatar #14 - leglesslegolegolas (08/22/2013) [-]
Why the **** did you block snakefire for that comment? Don't be an insensitive twat.
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