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User avatar #12 - nuttyturd (08/05/2013) [-]
Ok i just found out that United states of america is a country AND its part of Americas witch makes no sense bcause how can a country be in another county #confused.

User avatar #27 to #12 - meganinja (08/05/2013) [-]
that could actually work out because I'm pretty sure that states are actually countries inside of the United States, which are extremely close together, like the EU on steroids.
User avatar #40 to #27 - thatoneiranianguy (08/05/2013) [-]
When the United States first started they were loosely governed states that had a common interest so they formed a Confederacy. Hence the articles of confederation.
User avatar #46 to #40 - meganinja (08/05/2013) [-]
con·fed·er·a·cy
/kənˈfedərəsē/
Noun
A league or alliance, esp. of confederate states.
An alliance formed for an unlawful purpose; a conspiracy.


Confederacies are made up of seperate countries who form together under a common purpose, like an alliance. This is similar to the EU, which I said, only much more unified.
User avatar #48 to #46 - thatoneiranianguy (08/05/2013) [-]
Confederacies are not confined to countries, however. In early U.S.A. they were mostly autonomous as the Federal government didn't have really any true power at the time.

The United States is a federation now though, not a confederacy. Therefore they're not just an alliance with a common goal. They're linked together by a strong central government.

That being said you'd be wrong about the United States as it does not work like that anymore. And I wouldn't consider the EU to be either a Federation or Confederation as many nations within the EU are arguing against each other in what path they should take is to be autonomy or a centralised system.

For instance, the fact that borders practically don't exist anymore would imply a more federation approach, whereas Britain refuses to use the Euro as their standard currency and use pounds instead. It's more of a mix.
User avatar #56 to #48 - meganinja (08/05/2013) [-]
this is getting rather complex. The definiton of the word country isn't that solid of a definition, and is very often used for states. The only thing differentiating the EU and the USA is how much authority the central government has over the different states under the central jurisdiction. In the EU's case, the government is weak enough that the United Kingdom has resisted the transition to the Euro. However, it's still a central power. There are many things the United States would like to impose on its states, some things it has been able to do, and some it hasn't. For example, the central government could not raise the drinking age to 21, so they cut central funding to states that didn't obey until all had conformed.
User avatar #58 to #56 - mesr (08/05/2013) [-]
It is actually not that complicated. It all depends on whether a state is soveriegn or not. In the case of the US the states are not sovereign, they do not have monopoly on power inside their borders. Meanwhile the states of EU have monopoly on the use of power inside their borders, which is the definition of sovereignty, and therefore they are countries.
User avatar #57 to #56 - thatoneiranianguy (08/05/2013) [-]
It does get complex. Politics and Government blows balls but if you have the time and mental capacity (and a white board tends to be helpful) then it's much much easier to understand altogether.

The structured world is a unique one at that.
User avatar #28 to #27 - sonicg (08/05/2013) [-]
Provinces actually, like Alberta and such in Canadia.
User avatar #29 to #28 - meganinja (08/05/2013) [-]
I don't know if they legally are now, but back in the old days states where their own countries bonded together by an overseeing federal government. Hell, Virginia once declared war on Pennsylvania (not the civil war)
#30 to #29 - sonicg (08/05/2013) [-]
srsly?
User avatar #31 to #30 - meganinja (08/05/2013) [-]
yeah I think about a dispute over the Ohio river
User avatar #32 to #31 - sonicg (08/05/2013) [-]
Need I say 'Muricuh?
User avatar #34 to #32 - meganinja (08/05/2013) [-]
'Murka says itself friend.
User avatar #13 to #12 - mymiddleleg (08/05/2013) [-]
dont know if genuine stupid or just troll but the Americas is a continent
#26 to #13 - anonymous (08/05/2013) [-]
It is neither. You are just stupid
User avatar #37 to #26 - mymiddleleg (08/05/2013) [-]
How am i stupid for pointing out a geographical fact?
#15 to #13 - bigcdizzle (08/05/2013) [-]
If you have to ask that....you probably know the answer.
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