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User avatar #79 - skaffanl (08/02/2013) [-]
Hmm, I have a question maybe you could help to answer:

What if atheists decide to actively convert as many religious people to 'no-religion'? Would religious people react the same as atheists do now, would they react with more respect towards 'atheism' or would they react feeling offended?

I mean I personally feel offended when people (especially people I know) give me papers or other things trying to convert me to a certain religion. I mean, if I'm interested I will show my interest (this could be the trigger of trying to convert the person) and if I want to convert I'll make sure I'll convert. If your religion holds hidden truth, meaning and an effective way of living life people will come to your religion, you won't have to 'recruit' them. Religions could learn something from Buddhism in my opinion because they teach those who want to be teached. They know Buddhism follows a certain way of life in which people will become interested in and they'll know people who want to follow that way of life will come to them.

The only reason I can imagine that a religion needs to actively 'recruit' is because they don't hold hidden truth, meaning and an effective way of living your life and as a consequence people won't flock to it. I mean I know some religions believe that 'recruiting' souls saves the soul from eternal damnation but a soul that doesn't want to be 'saved' will in his heart never truly be a follower right?
User avatar #245 to #79 - dapianoman (08/02/2013) [-]
I'm not easily offended, so I can't speak for the FJ community. It seems everyone here is extremely sensitive and can be offended by someone giving them a cross. So, when someone tries to convert me or something, I'll just go, no thanks. Because there is no point getting upset about people expressing their ideas. Love thy neighbor.
User avatar #84 to #79 - RandomAnonGuy (08/02/2013) [-]
I usually don't mind religious people, but holy ******* **** this one bitch at the hospital my niece was born in? Not half an hour after my sister had gone through one of the most arduous and painful renditions of childbirth her doctor had ever seen, a woman came in and gave her a pamphlet and told her that the child had nothing to do with her, it was gods creation.
#80 to #79 - grapefruity (08/02/2013) [-]
As someone who doesn't believe in god, some of my atheist friends DO try to 'convert' people. But these people are the basis definition of 'Friend', because they are pretty dumb.   
   
I don't care what religion you follow (Hell, I won't even make fun of you for it). But that is on the grounds that people don't try to convert me. I will listen (And who knows, I might decide I believe), but I probably will end up not believing them, and that might come across as disrespectful...   
   
I don't think (Decent, well-minded) atheists would ever try to convert people. Mainly because it would be like converting a golfer into a non-golfer. The person would gain nothing, but could lose any sort of emotional support that they could gain from their religion. Pointless and potentially cruel...   
   
TL;DR Converting to atheism is a pointless ego boost. People believe what they want, just keep me the 						****					 out of it   
   
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As someone who doesn't believe in god, some of my atheist friends DO try to 'convert' people. But these people are the basis definition of 'Friend', because they are pretty dumb.

I don't care what religion you follow (Hell, I won't even make fun of you for it). But that is on the grounds that people don't try to convert me. I will listen (And who knows, I might decide I believe), but I probably will end up not believing them, and that might come across as disrespectful...

I don't think (Decent, well-minded) atheists would ever try to convert people. Mainly because it would be like converting a golfer into a non-golfer. The person would gain nothing, but could lose any sort of emotional support that they could gain from their religion. Pointless and potentially cruel...

TL;DR Converting to atheism is a pointless ego boost. People believe what they want, just keep me the **** out of it

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#89 to #80 - skaffanl (08/02/2013) [-]
Well, it doesn't necessarily have to be cruel. If I had to look through an atheist's eyes I would say converting people from religion to non-religion is beneficial to them because you free them of unnecessary dilemma's, thoughts and stress. It opens up an easier way of happiness which perhaps excludes anxiety about the afterlife and depressions of the past. It releases them of the constant guilt of sin.   
   
To me this sounds like they would gain a lot instead of gain nothing.   
   
But thank you, you have helped me understand more what it's like. I now believe that people not choose to try and convert people because they feel when other people try to convert them it's okay but because they feel their ideas and way of life is better than those of others. They will feel just as offended when someone puts effort into converting them as someone who is trying to be converted by them.    
   
Maybe because people tend to think that if their ideas or way of life is better they assume that they're also more important than those who hold different ideas. Hmm, maybe this explains the facade I keep seeing in life. People treating others as equals (with respect) while in fact they believe that they are better than others. You know you can fake respect. If you live by the heart, not the brain, and you still treat people as equals (so a genuine respect) you're a good man because you have right intentions. Treating people as equals while you believe you're better is pretending to be a good man. I believe doing a good deed does not make you a good man. Doing a good deed because of the right intentions, that I what makes someone a good man.   
   
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Well, it doesn't necessarily have to be cruel. If I had to look through an atheist's eyes I would say converting people from religion to non-religion is beneficial to them because you free them of unnecessary dilemma's, thoughts and stress. It opens up an easier way of happiness which perhaps excludes anxiety about the afterlife and depressions of the past. It releases them of the constant guilt of sin.

To me this sounds like they would gain a lot instead of gain nothing.

But thank you, you have helped me understand more what it's like. I now believe that people not choose to try and convert people because they feel when other people try to convert them it's okay but because they feel their ideas and way of life is better than those of others. They will feel just as offended when someone puts effort into converting them as someone who is trying to be converted by them.

Maybe because people tend to think that if their ideas or way of life is better they assume that they're also more important than those who hold different ideas. Hmm, maybe this explains the facade I keep seeing in life. People treating others as equals (with respect) while in fact they believe that they are better than others. You know you can fake respect. If you live by the heart, not the brain, and you still treat people as equals (so a genuine respect) you're a good man because you have right intentions. Treating people as equals while you believe you're better is pretending to be a good man. I believe doing a good deed does not make you a good man. Doing a good deed because of the right intentions, that I what makes someone a good man.

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User avatar #81 to #80 - ButtonFly ONLINE (08/02/2013) [-]
Your unrelated gif made me pointlessly happy. Thought you ought to know.
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