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User avatar #10 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/02/2013) [-]
Oh wow, that guy is so cool and hardcore, thinking for himself like that and mocking people of different beliefs. She was OBVIOUSLY trying to convert him by giving him a cross

Not like she thought it would be a nice gift or anything. Or had sentimental value. Or just made her feel better even if he knew it didn't do a damn thing

But she's obviously just a stupid religious bitch and he's a genius Atheist who also happens to be funny and is probably very handsome

Go him
#278 to #10 - anonymous (08/02/2013) [-]
Holy **** , who pissed in your wheaties this morning?
tone down the butthurt, loser. You'll be happier.
User avatar #294 to #278 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/02/2013) [-]
Wow, I haven't been called a loser in a long time. Good for you for making me remember that

In any case, nobody pissed in my shreddies, I just don't like rude people and find it very hypocritical that funnyjunk (which usually tends to frown upon rude and immature behavior) is suddenly up in arms and supporting it just because someone is making fun of something they don't like

It may come as a shock to you, but nobody deserves to have their beliefs belittled and condemned (provided they are not hurting anyone), and even if I don't agree with whatever message they are spreading, it doesn't change the fact that it's incredibly rude and disrespectful to mock them
#201 to #10 - furiousmarshmellow (08/02/2013) [-]
While I'm at it, I might as well give a Christian a Pentagram, or a Catholic a Star of David.   
   
   
   
   
 Idiot.
While I'm at it, I might as well give a Christian a Pentagram, or a Catholic a Star of David.




Idiot.
User avatar #239 to #201 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/02/2013) [-]
I never said that, someone below did. And even if you did, it wouldn't be offensive unless you were doing it maliciously
#164 to #10 - mcfc (08/02/2013) [-]
I have made a new religion which is named "suck my dick"...I see you dont follow my religion. As a token i will give you a dragon dildo. Now dont be some cool and hardcore dude thinking its okay to mock anyones religion..


Your logic is displayed above.
User avatar #241 to #164 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/02/2013) [-]
Actually it's not, because (and if you read below, you would have found this) it's not something you're seriously devoted to, it's not something that you have as a foundation to your life or problems or even your own attitude, so it wouldn't matter if I said it was quite stupid (the same way using it as an example would be. Good thing you didn't, though).

Furthermore, even if you WERE serious, I wouldn't smack it down and mock your beliefs, I would either politely decline (like a normal person does when something is offered to them), or just say thank you and that I didn't have any before and take it home. I would then either throw it out when I get there, maintaining your and my dignity, or actually keeping it and having a story to tell
User avatar #158 to #10 - rainbowrush (08/02/2013) [-]
Giving someone the symbol for pain and suffering is not a very nice gift, wouldn't you agree?
User avatar #243 to #158 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/02/2013) [-]
It's not a symbol of pain and suffering (from what I've gathered. I'm not christian so I honestly couldn't say), but I CAN say that whatever it symbolizes depends more on the christian than whatever part of christianity you follow
User avatar #331 to #243 - rainbowrush (08/03/2013) [-]
The cross has symbolized suffering far longer than Christianity has been around. It was a form of torture, after all.
User avatar #147 to #10 - wardylocks (08/02/2013) [-]
shut up meg
User avatar #244 to #147 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/02/2013) [-]
That would have hurt if you could actually come up with your own jokes
User avatar #274 to #244 - wardylocks (08/02/2013) [-]
Yeah but it looks like you're hurt anyway
and pretty mad
yep
User avatar #293 to #274 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/02/2013) [-]
Eh, if you say so; frankly I'm not the one getting my panties in a knot when someone shares a different opinion than me. I just don't like rude pricks
User avatar #107 to #10 - fukkendragonite ONLINE (08/02/2013) [-]
It's a funny joke. As long as he keeps the cross for the gift element of the whole thing it's fine. He doesn't have to convert, just keep the gift.
User avatar #120 to #107 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/02/2013) [-]
I'm not saying he does, I'm saying he could have handled it better considering she was probably giving it to him out of love and compassion, rather than a desire to convert or oppress him
User avatar #122 to #120 - fukkendragonite ONLINE (08/02/2013) [-]
I thought the joke was funny though.
User avatar #123 to #122 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/02/2013) [-]
As did I, but that doesn't change the fact it was in poor taste
User avatar #125 to #123 - fukkendragonite ONLINE (08/02/2013) [-]
I didn't think it was in poor taste at all, I thought it was a harmless bit of fun that any christian with a sense of humour would have enjoyed. As long as he kept the gift, all is forgiven imo
User avatar #127 to #125 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/02/2013) [-]
Then we're faced with a disagreement. But that's alright.

The point is, I don't think you should freak out when someone does something out of kindness (provided their actions in itself are not malicious), and the dad being in on the joke only condones that kind of behavior. I honestly think it's funnier that if this situation was reversed, I.E. a christian making fun of and degrading the beliefs of an Atheist, funnyjunk would have its panties in such a tight knot it actually WOULD be 12 years old for aweek
User avatar #140 to #127 - fukkendragonite ONLINE (08/02/2013) [-]
I would find both equally funny since I'm neither Christian nor an atheist. And I know what it's like to have my beliefs mocked since I have my own independent spiritualistic beliefs.

I don't think they freaked out because she was forcing her beliefs, it seemed to me that they saw a golden opportunity for a joke. I did a similar thing when I was handed a Gideon's bible by my school. I said "Do you mind if I give this back? It would only serve to corrupt my heathen image. And besides, I don't want to annoy my demon overlords". I took the bible anyway, because that **** has good advice sometimes, and I still have it. I just thought it would be a laugh. They laughed, I laughed. Harmless fun.
User avatar #143 to #140 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/02/2013) [-]
And it would be harmless fun if the aunt took it as a joke, but she was obviously offended. I understand that the very nature of a joke means someone's probably gonna be offended and some people should grow a sense of humour, but it's still disrespectful. I make religious jokes too, including jokes about my own religion, but that's just because it's all in good fun and if it's not I make it up to whoever I offended by just being extra charming or nice to them; this guy, on the other hand, just seemed to want to make a big deal out of it and I get the feeling he wouldn't think it was too funny if someone made fun of his Atheism
#71 to #10 - anonymous (08/02/2013) [-]
I agree with you. Guys like that are ******* losers. Who would treat their own family like that. Some people have no shame
#41 to #10 - anonymous (08/02/2013) [-]
Why not give her a pentagram and see how she likes it? It's the exact same thing. Trying to convert someone to believe in your imaginary friend is rude...
User avatar #76 to #41 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/02/2013) [-]
Except I wouldn't be trying to convert anybody. If I gave anyone a symbol of my faith it would be because they were interested/wanted one, than again I'm also not 91 years old. Nor is she trying to convert me

I like that, you say trying to convert someone to your specific form of thought is rude, yet you have no problem saying it's an imaginary friend and degrading it. Believe it or not, fundamental Atheists are just as, if not more annoying, than fundamental religious people
User avatar #39 to #10 - walhor (08/02/2013) [-]
Gee, what asshole planet are you from?
User avatar #77 to #39 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/02/2013) [-]
Apparently the one where offering someone something they don't like as a show of good will should be politely declined rather than made fun of.
User avatar #11 to #10 - redtooth (08/02/2013) [-]
Giving an atheist a cross would be the same like giving a muslim a cross, or a hebrew a cross. I'm betting they wouldn't find it very nice; heck, some might even find it offensive. By giving someone else a symbol of your religion (even as a good luck charm) in most cases you are implying your religion is better than theirs.

Not every atheist wears fedoras or has neckbeards; this post wasn't bashing christianity at all, just super-religious christians. The funny part wasn't even that it was him who made fun of it but his dad.
User avatar #284 to #11 - cakezs (08/02/2013) [-]
Giving an atheist a cross would be the same like giving a muslim a cross?!?!

An atheist doesn't have a religion, so they wouldn't be offended. I'm atheist and if you want to give me a cross who the **** cares, I obviously don't think it has any significance but it's not "implying your religion is better" because I don't even have one and I don't give a **** about other religions, hence why I don't follow one.
User avatar #268 to #11 - hotsaws (08/02/2013) [-]
My aunt is also pretty religious (Catholic) while I'm Agnostic. One time she gave me a rosary and some teen book called "Leap of Faith" but I wasn't rude so I just took it. It's a gift, not an abomination to your faith. She's never tried to convert me. If she does, then I will get rude.
User avatar #265 to #11 - kilik (08/02/2013) [-]
it was a gift from his aunt who thought hed enjoy it. he couldve accepted it and got rid of it later instead of acting like a little **** in front of her disrespectfully. IF this story was real
User avatar #253 to #11 - casualbro (08/02/2013) [-]
But atheists don't have a religion so how could they be offended right?
User avatar #240 to #11 - dapianoman (08/02/2013) [-]
I actually did not know this. I, and most of my friends, take a gift as it is: a gift, and not an excuse to rub their religion in your face. When someone hands me a cross, I say, "thank you." I don't say "IT BURNS!!!" or "I'm an atheist." I just take the gift as a sign of respect. I didn't know you guys were so sensitive as to take offense from just a present.
#225 to #11 - anonymous (08/02/2013) [-]
nope thats wrong
you know why people try to convert you? because they love you and want you to be in heaven! Not because they think their religion is better but they think their religion is right.
But to be honest
i dont really get why religios debate have this kind of big impact on funnyjunk!
Being an atheist is alright! And being religious is alright too!
#211 to #11 - anisbanana (08/02/2013) [-]
Hanging the star of david all over our ******* school on christmas is offensive to me then. And there are only like 4 ******* jews in my school out of 1000 people yet we can't put up a damn christmas tree because the greedy jews find it offensive. **** them..

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#184 to #11 - anonymous (08/02/2013) [-]
I thought athiests just don't believe in any gods. If that's the case then wouldn't they not care about the cross instead of being offended by it?
#95 to #11 - anonymous (08/02/2013) [-]
Atheists use an ignorance fallacy to rationalize their atheism: they don't understand how God exists, so they say that he doesn't exist at all. This sort of reasoning is akin to saying that extra-terrestrial civilizations don't exist because humans haven't discovered any yet. The human brain is all the evidence we need of an intelligent designer. But on top of that we also have the Bible with thousands of fulfilled prophesies, and rooted historical evidence of Christ. Simple logic leads to the reality and truth of the resurrection. Why are they so willfully ignorant? Many atheists simply hate the truth,and twist things to fit the lie they love.They don't want God,so they simply close their eyes to the obvious and then use the arguments that are simply based on the ignorance and hatred,but very little on logical fact.If your eyes are twisted,then the picture you will see will also be twisted.
User avatar #98 to #95 - redtooth (08/02/2013) [-]
Well **** me if that's not the biggest crock of ******** I've ever read in my life. I just don't want to make a big part of my life around something that I haven't seen proof for. It's similar to not believing that a man is guilty of a crime unless you've seen the proof that he is. You're doing a stupid act of rationalizing and you're probably just trolling, so I have no idea why I'm responding.
User avatar #313 to #98 - ninjaspartan (08/03/2013) [-]
Not that I'm defending anon and his extremely radical statement, but that is why we have court. If there's no proof, then then said criminal is innocent. Hence, "innocent until proven guilty."

And then we have cases like OJ and Zimmerman...
User avatar #100 to #98 - redtooth (08/02/2013) [-]
I mean generalizing, not rationalizing.
User avatar #91 to #11 - runescapewasgood (08/02/2013) [-]
i assumed it was a girl...
User avatar #93 to #91 - redtooth (08/02/2013) [-]
Actually that's very possible, I just noticed the username.
#85 to #11 - anonymous (08/02/2013) [-]
I gave my Muslim friend a cross once for his birthday as a joke (I got him a real present, too) and he just laughed it off.
#67 to #11 - longshanksthegrey (08/02/2013) [-]
I'm a Muslim and have no problem receiving any religious paraphernalia as a gift.
In Arabic Interfaith is called Da'Waah, and is a pretty big part at our mosque
User avatar #214 to #67 - foxxywithpaws (08/02/2013) [-]
Today I learned yet another awesome fact about the Islam. ^_^
User avatar #66 to #11 - lukap (08/02/2013) [-]
No it ******* wouldn't because atheists don't have a religion, they dont believe in a god so they shouldn't give a **** . Atheism isn't a ******* religion the only people who act like its a religion are fat retarded neckbeards because they get offended at **** like this and call everyone "sheepele"
User avatar #59 to #11 - Kairyuka ONLINE (08/02/2013) [-]
But since atheists don't believe it, it doesn't mean anything, right? It's just like "Ooh, this is a pretty piece of cross-shaped metal"
User avatar #160 to #59 - rainbowrush (08/02/2013) [-]
No. The cross symbolizes suffering. Giving it as a gift is quite offensive.
User avatar #163 to #160 - Kairyuka ONLINE (08/02/2013) [-]
Symbolizes suffering? I don't see a cross and think suffering, hell I barely think christianity. Crosses are more accessories than actual religious symbols nowadays. Although I myself prefer I Ching, Taiji Tu or similar asian symbols.
User avatar #44 to #11 - YllekNayr ONLINE (08/02/2013) [-]
Thank you for being a reasonable person, unlike the above commenter.
User avatar #25 to #11 - Crusader (08/02/2013) [-]
Ehh, I agreed with you for the most part until you said "you are implying your religion is better than theirs" If they are a fully functioning person that understands their own religion, they can politely refuse, or even accept it, because while it is a symbol of your religion, it can mean a multitude of other things, from friendship, to trust to just wanting to be nice.

The only people who would become offended are the same people that think their religion is better than yours, and therefore deserve to be offended.
#22 to #11 - desklamp (08/02/2013) [-]
I don't know about how a Muslim or Hebrew would react to a cross, but when I was Christian, if a Muslim had given me a Crescent, I'm pretty sure I would have said "Thank you" instead of being a cunt about it.

As a matter of fact, I'm pretty sure I owned a Star Of David at one point.
User avatar #12 to #11 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/02/2013) [-]
She wasn't giving him a cross because she wanted him to convert, or insult him, it was just a symbol of her love. He could have also, I don't know, politely declined and said he didn't follow her faith, to which I'm sure she would have been far more open to. Hell, my grandmother is incredibly religious and shares a different faith than I do, yet every time she tells me 'god bless' or 'god loves you', I just say "Thanks Grandma, I love you too" because I understand she's just doing it because that's how she shows her love and appreciation. Even when I'm not in the mood for it, I still don't freak out and make jokes about her, I just politely decline and thank her anyways, kinda like a normal person does

I wasn't bashing Atheists either, just the super entitled ones. His father seems like a dink as well. If she was ACTUALLY trying to push her faith onto them I could understand why they did that and also find it quite funny, but she was only trying to be nice and they were just dicks about it
User avatar #14 to #12 - redtooth (08/02/2013) [-]
Well, you can't know the full story, of course, so there's no point arguing about it, but I'm just saying it's just as possible that she was trying to convert him. Giving a non-religious person a cross isn't exactly the same as saying 'god bless' or 'god loves you' - the latter being endearing figures of speech and the first one being a symbol of the religion she bears.

If she was trying to push her faith onto them (IMO from the post I'd say it's highly likely) then it wasn't a very considerate gift in the first place. It's not impolite or mean to give an atheist a cross, it's just a gift that doesn't serve any purpose for the person it's given to if he doesn't have any faith in it. If both the person in question and his dad reacted the same way, have you considered that the reaction might have been deserved? That they politely declined the first 9001 times? That the aunt constantly talks about eternal damnation? I dunno, all of these are valid possibilities. The kid didn't do the best thing in the situation, but we don't have enough information about the situation itself to judge whether his reaction is deserved or not.
User avatar #15 to #14 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/02/2013) [-]
You're right, we do not know the circumstances and in that sense I will say that it seems likely she may have been trying to bear down on him, but we still don't know what she's like or what the family is like either, so we can only agree to disagree.

Ah, but it's also from the view of a teenage kid going against an established authority with the help of another authority, everything they do would be oppressive and domineering in his eyes, or witty and snide if things went his way. That's true, but people also give religious symbols as a meaning of hope and concern, like when christians pray for an Atheist; they're not trying to be mean, they're just saying they hope the person is going to be okay; or when a place is rocked by tragedy and someone sends bibles or some-such in the hopes at least someone can find comfort in it because that's what they themselves draw comfort from. In reality; she's been no more oppressive to him than someone who firmly believes in faith healing is 'oppressed' when people tell him to go see a doctor. Yes, the reaction may have very well been deserved, but its just his sheer attitude about it that makes me think he looks at it as one big joke, I.E. he doesn't take it seriously so it's not oppressive. You're right, we do not have the information; then why don't we simply say this "The aunt shouldn't push her religion, but the kid could have handled it far better". Sound good?
User avatar #16 to #15 - redtooth (08/02/2013) [-]
Sure, sounds good to me. I am (to some degree) speaking from personal experience because I know my grandma is very religious and has many times had conversations with me to try to convert me back to Christianity, and while I'm sure she has my well-being in mind, I'm also sure a part of her is just ashamed to have an atheist in the family (we live in a very religious place). Of course, I love her immensely, and I wouldn't pull this kinda **** if she'd given me the cross, but I'm just saying, there could very well be additional elements to this story that we do not know other than the teenager being an edgy atheist.
User avatar #17 to #16 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/02/2013) [-]
Excellent. Indeed I know how that feels, but the point is to remember that she does love you and only wants your well-being in mind the same way you want hers. Now, that doesn't mean you should take any abuse given to you, on the contrary you should fight any type of oppression; but there's a fine line between oppression and someone who just thinks they know better. Have a wonderful day, good sir; and thank you for the educated debate without us having to descend into insults and ad hominem's
#19 to #17 - redtooth (08/02/2013) [-]
I'm sorry that you're getting thumbed down just for expressing your opinion and arguing with valid points.
User avatar #46 to #19 - YllekNayr ONLINE (08/02/2013) [-]
He's being thumbed down because none of his comments can redeem him from the first one he made.
User avatar #75 to #46 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/02/2013) [-]
I see, so it's alright to make fun of religious people, but not Atheists?

I don't feel I'm the one who needs to be 'redeemed' here
User avatar #292 to #75 - YllekNayr ONLINE (08/02/2013) [-]
No. Don't act persecuted because you're being a dick and got called on it.

I know that's a Christian's specialty, but it won't help you here.
User avatar #296 to #292 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/02/2013) [-]
I like how you got the message that I felt I was being persecuted when all I said was "I see, so it's alright to make fun of religious people, but not Atheists?" (good job avoiding the question, though). I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I'm actually not a christian and in fact share a very different religious belief than they do. It may be hard to grasp, but I do, honestly, truly, think that being rude is a bad thing in general, regardless of what circumstances you are in.

(Also, all things considered, you're being more of a dick than I am. The person in the post made fun of over-the-top christians, I made fun of over-the-top Atheists, and now everyone has their panties in a twist over me while condoning the behavior above simply because they agree with it and feel entitled to do so. There is no difference between you thinking a religious person is stupid because of their religion and a religious person thinking Atheists are stupid because of their lack of faith. The only difference between me and you here is that I think it's best to be polite at all times, while you think politeness can go out the window regarding views you don't agree with. Quite a dick move there
User avatar #302 to #296 - YllekNayr ONLINE (08/02/2013) [-]
But lemme just get something straight:

You make that original comment, and in response I say none of your comments can redeem you from it, and that you're being a dick and acting persecuted.

This means I am MORE of a dick than you? What universe do you live in where saying something similar and lesser makes you worse?

You're a hypocrite now, as well, for wanting to make those sorts of comments and then act like anyone else that says something similar about you is being mean.
User avatar #304 to #302 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/02/2013) [-]
Lemme help straighten that out for you:

I made the original comment belittling over-the-top-Atheists (who are apparently ALL Atheists), everyone got made because they felt their opinions were more important than the opinions of others ("It's okay to make fun of religious people, but not Atheists"), and then you believe I'm acting like I'm persecuted despite the fact I never said anything about myself besides my personal attitude to it

Seeing as how YOU are generalizing Atheists (rather than myself), YOU are acting rude while in my comments above you can see I am more than willing to be civil and respectful, and YOU feel that Atheists are more entitled than religious people, yes, you are more of a dick than myself. Apparently not the same universe where being polite across the board is a good thing

Again, the post made fun of over-the-top christians, cool, I made fun of over-the-top Atheists, not so cool apparently. It's not my fault everyone chose to take it so personally and completely ignore the hypocrisy; and furthermore I never said anyone else was being rude or mean. I never complained about what people said, I never used logical fallacies, I was never rude without someone being rude to me first, and I never complained about the massive amount of red thumbs I get, and continue to get, while everyone else has green up the ying-yang because I understand that's what happens when you post a controversial comment. So no, I am not hypocritical. YOU on the other hand still have yet to answer my original question and continue to dodge my statements while putting words in my mouth and seeing things from an ill-perceived angle. I don't BLAME you for that, as it's only natural to get ruffled when someone insults something you're into, but I would at least expect you to act civilized and think with a cool, clear head without using insults, especially when you're trying to defend something you believe in due to rationality and logic
User avatar #307 to #304 - YllekNayr ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
You didn't make fun of over-the-top atheists. You singled out the man from the story, and he is not over the top by any means. And somehow you act like someone calling you out on it is more disrespectful than your original comment.
User avatar #314 to #307 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
Again, if that's not over the top, you're implying that's how Atheists USUALLY act, which (I certainly hope) is not true. Furthermore, I never complained about anyone 'calling me out' because nobody did. To 'call someone out' they have to be deliberately hiding their offensiveness, and good gods if I was trying to do that I'm the least subtle person on Earth. Besides, again, I never complained about what anyone said to me or replied, nor did I think anything they said to me was disrespectful; what I thought was disrespectful was they were mocking a certain type of faith while believing they themselves were better for the faith they had

You still haven't replied to my question, by the way. In case you forgot "So it's okay to make fun of religious people, but not okay to make fun of Atheists?"
User avatar #316 to #314 - YllekNayr ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
No, they don't. You could be actively being a jerk, and someone calls it out. After that point, you say that they're the one being worse than you.

That's why you're a hypocrite.

The answer to your question is "No, that statement is false, but atheists are far more widely despised and ridiculed than Christians, at least within the United States, and often are made fun of for things that were not offensive, while the same Christians do worse things and call it religious freedom."
User avatar #322 to #316 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
Oh, okay. I suppose your opinion over-rules common theme then. Just as well, I didn't say 'they' are being worse. I said 'they' are being hypocritical by allowing the circumstances of one insult to slide, but not another, simply because of bias. I said YOU are being worse than me because you are generalizing, assuming, putting words in my mouth, speaking for others, and debating more with emotion and feeling than with logic and reason.

You don't understand what 'hypocrite' means, do you? A hypocrite is: "Someone who engages in the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense." I never said it was wrong for someone to reply rudely to me, what I said was wrong was that someone values their own spiritual or theological beliefs more than another's based upon the same amount of evidence. That's why I'm NOT a hypocrite

Now YOU'RE the one playing the victim, as that type of behaviour happens everywhere. Here in Canada, there are far more Atheists (or at the very least, 'spiritualists' and 'agnostics') than any other religious background and religious people are often mocked for their beliefs. If you were a christian in the middle east or Eastern Asia, you would be mocked or ridiculed. The most 'Atheist' place in the world is Vietnam with a population of (I forget the exact number, but somewhere between) 78%-92% and you would be mocked for holding religious beliefs there. Being a victim does not allow you to have more rights or privileges than another, nor does being a persecutor. Besides, in a recent poll, more people actually identify with 'believing in god' than 'being christian' in America, of which there is a very firm difference.

If you do not believe it is okay for christians to mock Atheists, why do you believe it's okay for Atheists to mock christians? By making exceptions to your own beliefs and ostracizing others for theirs, you are no different than those who treat you unjustly
User avatar #323 to #322 - YllekNayr ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
Are you kidding? What does any of that have to do with this? And are you SERIOUSLY suggesting that most of America is NOT Christian, but in fact just "believes in a god"? Is that actually something you're saying? That's pathetic.
User avatar #340 to #323 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/04/2013) [-]
I find it funny that you say they have no merit when you only focused on ONE of them, of that one, you also claimed had no merit. Yet you had no trouble focusing on that one (and bringing it up later as well, including an argument for how you one based upon the single point out of my many)

You're running out of excuses
User avatar #338 to #323 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/04/2013) [-]
*Won, sorry. I'm quite tired
User avatar #337 to #323 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/04/2013) [-]
How convenient that you use my attitude at YOUR unwillingness to address the rest of my points to escape so you don't have to address the rest of my points. It doesn't matter anyways, YOU were the one who was so adamant against me, and YOU are the one who has to prove me wrong which you still haven't done. By all debating logic I'm actually in the right and have one this debate. Not even by forfeit, just by your pretentiousness that you're too 'good' to answer the rest of my statements (again, quite convenient for you, considering you probably can't).
User avatar #339 to #337 - YllekNayr ONLINE (08/04/2013) [-]
I never said I was too good to answer. I tried. But you're too thick to accept that your statements have no merit.
User avatar #335 to #323 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/04/2013) [-]
I already said below, if you would have bothered to read the comment, that you were correct and I took the point back

Comment #328 to which you already replied that you had no desire to debunk the rest of my claims, then told me to see Gish Gallop

I replied saying that was one hell of a copout, which it was; and that it was selfish of you to not humour me, yet expect me to humour you. Yet, despite all this, I'm near certain you feel that you are still less of a dick than myself, and have the upper-hand
User avatar #336 to #335 - YllekNayr ONLINE (08/04/2013) [-]
There is no upper hand with you, and this seems like one long exercise in futility. I'm willing to have this kind of conversation with most anyone, but not indefinitely, and since it seems like this is going nowhere and you seem to fail to recognize your inherent bias against atheists being.....well......atheists......I'm withdrawing from this conversation.
User avatar #333 to #323 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/04/2013) [-]
The same way you're gonna stick to yours. I just find it interesting how you are unwilling to even TRY to 'debunk' any of my previous points (obviously because you're simply above it), yet you think it should be my responsibility to look up a term so my effort can prove that you're right

Unfortunately for you I did look it up, because I'm not a lazy, self-entitled twat, and it does not prove you right. The argument is that because I 'drowned you in half truths', you automatically win, yet I only gave you ONE point that could possibly be considered a 'half truth', and when you made that point I took it back. You STILL have all the others which are based upon total fact

So yes, that is my answer, and no, I'm not changing it.
User avatar #334 to #333 - YllekNayr ONLINE (08/04/2013) [-]
You're gonna go with saying that America is NOT, in fact, a majority Christian denominations, but instead just "religious".
User avatar #330 to #323 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
That's one hell of a cop out. I'm honestly surprised you can do that while still maintaining the arrogance to think you're the one in the right
User avatar #332 to #330 - YllekNayr ONLINE (08/04/2013) [-]
So you're gonna stick with that answer, then?
User avatar #328 to #323 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
Very well then, you make a good point. I take that argument back

The other points still stand
User avatar #329 to #328 - YllekNayr ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
I have no desire to thoroughly debunk every one of your claims. See "Gish Gallop"
User avatar #325 to #323 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
Anyways, I said it because it's true. The majority of America does not identify as 'christian', whether or whether not they believe in a god is irrelevant. The same way you can believe in a god, but declare yourself 'Atheist' because you simply don't care or don't worship or don't think it has any effect. Yes, it is something I'm saying

If it honestly had no basis in this argument, you wouldn't be as upset as you are. Furthermore, I like how you call me pathetic for 1/6 of my argument (seeing as how it was part of a much bigger paragraph) while YOU are the one who caught only that, refused to reply to any other point, and continue to thumb down my comments in a childish manner
User avatar #327 to #325 - YllekNayr ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
The majority of America IS a denomination of Christianity. Whether you want to label it something else or not is irrelevant. Your statement of "is a very firm difference" is deliberate misdirection by intentionally making it seem like something else is the case, which is a blatant lie on your part in an attempt to move Christianity from the majority.
User avatar #305 to #304 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/02/2013) [-]
*Mad

Not made. That's just silly
User avatar #301 to #296 - YllekNayr ONLINE (08/02/2013) [-]
No, you made fun of any atheist, seeing as the atheist in the post was anything but over the top, yet you still felt it accurate to call him edgy and generally belittle him.
User avatar #303 to #301 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/02/2013) [-]
So ALL Atheists are that rude and disrespectful? I never knew that
User avatar #306 to #303 - YllekNayr ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
The man in this story was not rude OR disrespectful.
User avatar #311 to #306 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
Your bias is sticking through like a sore thumb
User avatar #315 to #311 - YllekNayr ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
Nobody else agrees with you.
User avatar #320 to #315 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
Actually, the first Atheist in this thread did. As do some others; the amount of red thumbs bestowed mean nothing as after a point it stops being "I'm thumbing this guy down because I dislike his opinion" to "I'm thumbing this guy down because he has a lot of red thumbs and I want to see how many he can get", similar to what happens when a person gets a lot of green thumbs

Don't deny it, I have done it, and I know you have too. This site is populated by the young and immature after-all

Sorry to burst your bubble
User avatar #324 to #320 - YllekNayr ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
You're suggesting I'm biased by stating something everyone else is saying. Rather than everyone else being biased, you're just wrong.
User avatar #326 to #324 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/03/2013) [-]
No, I'm suggesting you're bias because you refuse to acknowledge anyone taking my side, and refuse to see that it's unjust to punish one person for having an opinion and exhault another simply because you agree (or disagree) with it. You're also quite obviously an Atheist, and you showed a lot of aggression and negativity (and still do, but more so when) you thought I was christian. You're also adamant that the poster was acting completely rationally by making a mockery out of his Aunt's faith, going on to say that it wasn't over the top or undeserved at all (implying all Atheists do or should act that way) yet you're upset with me because I also made a mockery of faith and saying it was completely unjustified and I cannot be redeemed despite my calm demenour, manner, argument, and civility even toward those insulting me

That's why you're bias
User avatar #21 to #19 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (08/02/2013) [-]
It's alright. I would feel more offended if people actually thought I cared about virtual thumbs that don't even get me anything
#18 to #17 - redtooth (08/02/2013) [-]
I agree; it's nice to have a debate every so often that doesn't result in name-calling. Have a complimentary giraffe and a nice day.
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