It Works. . f .. VEGANISM IS " NEWER MAOIST WEI”. “CINE JOIE Bl HUNGER its. Let's face it Hannibal Lecter is far more preferable company than a vegan. It Works f VEGANISM IS " NEWER MAOIST WEI” “CINE JOIE Bl HUNGER its Let's face it Hannibal Lecter is far more preferable company than a vegan
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User avatar #3 - toriofwind
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Let's face it Hannibal Lecter is far more preferable company than a vegan.
User avatar #32 to #3 - newforomador
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As long as he isn't eating me I'd be perfectly fine with it. I've also always wanted to see what human tastes like. I'm not the only one here like that here right?
User avatar #35 to #32 - captainfuckitall
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Like Pork

Except a bit more harsh
User avatar #36 to #35 - newforomador
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Have you actually tasted it or is that a quote from the show?
User avatar #37 to #36 - captainfuckitall
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Real life Cannibal (and near duplicate of Hannibal Lector, so much so that they could have been the same person) Armin Meiwes said so in his biography

He also described his favourite dishes, how to best cook and prepare them, and even detailed that once you eat enough human meat, other meats tend to taste bland and boring

There's also a movie based on it called 'Grimm Love' which I absolutely adored, not for the 'grittiness' of it, but because it actually addressed the question of how far is it acceptable to go in order to feel loved
#87 to #3 - jameslongo
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Let's "face" it
#2 - wraththefurious
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#4 to #2 - asmathiel
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#7 - lemmielickdatleg
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In terms of food production, a lot of our crops and money go towards feeding livestock. So if a larger portion of the population was vegan, we wouldn't have to worry about that extra growth, or at least we'd be able to feed people with the extra.

Of course, nobody expects the whole world to become vegan. Meat is good, it's healthy if you eat a proper amount. However, not many people realize how serious the whole environmental issue is. It would be nice if we could just slow down our livestock production until we find a more sustainable way to live how we want
#8 to #7 - anon id: 032d6892
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but burgers...they taste good
User avatar #46 to #7 - logicstrike
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that would be cultured meat, and I can't wait.
User avatar #84 to #7 - bigmanfifty
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livestock is extremely inefficient
#114 to #7 - anon id: ada91374
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Or the human race could stop breeding like rabbits and every ******* one can have a steak once in a while.
#118 to #7 - anon id: 09d87414
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Cows produce a lot of methane which is bad. If we stopped killing them they might be too many. THEN all that fart will add to environment problems.
#123 to #7 - justhangingaround
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What about that whole planned pasture thing?
I know other scientist in the field hate the idea but seriously... who gives a **** about deserts?
#137 to #7 - plaruti
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the world produces enough food to feed every last person three reasonable meals a day.

If a lot of people became vegan, that's all that would change. People would be vegans. Food production would change their status quo to accommodate the new fad.

it's not like we would suddenly decide to start giving food to the people who really need it.
User avatar #77 to #7 - yuvesh
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even without animals meat would still exist
there is a lot of talk about keeping insects as livestock as you can eat there whole body and they eat less. there meat can be used in same way as animals - made into burgers etc.
User avatar #80 to #77 - lemmielickdatleg
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I don't think that would become very popular with developed countries.

I can see how that would succeed in a 3rd world country, though. I really don't know how nutritional that is, but I wouldn't expect it to be a very sanitary business.
User avatar #82 to #80 - yuvesh
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you could say the same about pigs
the insects are just kept in big cages and no one cares about insect rights

it sucks that in developed countries we are taught eating bugs is "gross" so it would take years for it to become popular
User avatar #83 to #82 - lemmielickdatleg
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The way most places produce meat these days isn't exactly "sanitary" in the first place. Close enough to meet the standards of the FDA, apparently.

If they want to keep disease out of the bugs they'd have to raise them in better ways than just big cages. There are other alternatives for meat as well. I know most people don't like the thought of using tofu as a substitute, but it takes less energy to produce a tofu burger than beef.

Another suggestion: It takes more energy to raise beef than pork, more energy for pork than chicken, and more for chicken than fish. If we could cut out more beef/pork and focus on chicken/fish in our diet, I'm sure it would make good progress.
User avatar #129 to #7 - JENNAY
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This is the first time I haven't wanted to smack somebody for using that image

Thank you for not using it to be a douche and instead actually present data instead of data plus butthurt
#12 to #7 - hypocritical
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but here's what i think. Even if, say 1,000,000 people become vegan, the companies will still use up food to produce livestock to eat. Now that these corporations have started up and are now big enough to fund anything they want, they won't care that those 1 million people are vegan, they still make profit from the billions of other people here.
#75 to #12 - anon id: ad36167b
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You have no idea about economics do you?

If a billion people stop eating meat, or eat less meat, companies run into "overproduction". They can't sell everything they produce. They spend money in producing, but can't get that money back in selling.
You know what they do?
Produce less.

lemmielickdatleg 's comment is correct.
User avatar #138 to #75 - Fgner
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1 million he said. Far less than 1 billion, and hardly enough to change production at all.
#91 to #7 - imofcnotharveydent
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also it much more efficent to use that food to feed fish rather than cows, pigs and the like because all warm-blood animals use a lot of that food to produce heat rather than fish who would just use it to wiggle around in their little fishy lives
#108 to #7 - fekillix
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I think that to please everyone demands in the future we need less people.

If everyone is going to consume as much meat and dairy products as us Scandinavians, we would only be able to feed 1/4th of the worlds population.
If everyone wants a car and a nice house, (eliminating the 3rd world) we wouldn't have enough metals.

Right now, there are 52 people per square kilometer of land (not ocean), if everyone is going to have a car, a big house and eat meat daily the amount of people needs to decrease to around 15-20 per square kilometer.

If we don't start the population decrease now, we are going to face massive problems in the future. Imagine when it becomes cheaper to use robots to manufacture electronics in china! Almost everyone there is going to be out of work, the few employers that are left are going to need very highly educated people to maintain and repair the machines that are replacing the humans.

And with so few people, environmental concerns would be irrelevant. We could use bio-fuels like bio-diesel and bio-ethanol to power our conventional internal combustion engines in cars and eventually planes. (Bio-fuel is carbon neutral). Larger boats (like container ships) can be nuclear powered (We need to research Thorium now!), many large Russian ice-breakers use uranium, and they get by with only a kilo a year and way lower running costs then conventional diesel powered ones.

When every human on earth is highly educated, there is no hunger and no greenhouse-effect. Mankind can become a multi-planetary race.

Elderly care, though, is going to be extremely difficult, especially in parts of Africa, where almost the entirety of the population is under 20. If they have few children, elderly care has to be extremely efficient to take care of everyone in a humane way.


Sorry for such a long and sinister post, I just had to get this off my chest.
User avatar #72 to #7 - Logicaltightrope
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We have complete capability of feeding the entire world, with or without meat. We just don't.
#89 to #72 - feeding
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People try there best not to feed other people.
#9 to #7 - killerpotato
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Farm animals could just eat grass (in the case of cows, goats, sheep, and other ruminent animals), or peck at seeds and bugs (chickens) and the resources used would be way lower, not perfect by any means but a huge improvement.. But that doesn't make any money because the animals don't grow as big or as fast, so instead they are fed high calorie (for them) foods like grains and soy, which of course use up a great deal of time, land, money, and water. It doesn't help that most people have gotten a taste for meat from animals fed grains and soy, and grass fed or pastured animals taste more gamey to them.
User avatar #85 to #9 - drastronomy
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grass area where other foods could be grown...and most feed their chickens soy beans from brazil today....
#143 to #85 - killerpotato
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That's why i said it wasn't perfect, just a better option. Honestly everybody in the world isn't going to become a vegan, so if they are going to eat meat (which they are) it's better for them to eat meat which causes the least amount of damage to the environment. Much more farmland is used to feed farm animals now, because the grains and soy fed to farm animals requires a great deal of land to grow as well as a great deal of water. Raising farm animals can even be a positive thing for the environment under very specific circumstances. Cattle can be used to reverse desertification and have been done so successfully in south Africa by a biologist and farmer, Allan Savory.
#29 - weediemaan
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and of course I read vaginism
and of course I read vaginism
User avatar #26 - zorororonoa
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But I don't want bad karma
#39 to #26 - brokenhalf
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mesees what you did there
mesees what you did there
#115 - Sockopolis
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Telling people that you are a vegan and preaching your ways without us asking is also a surefire way to look like a pretentious cunt.
#11 - trickytrickster
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There's a reason we have teach to chew meat and vegetables, as well as the enzymes to digest meat, but not bark, etc.
User avatar #15 to #11 - captainrattrap
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You sentenced that accidentally.
#16 to #15 - trickytrickster
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Shhhhhh
#69 - jellyraptorz
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Its been bugging me for a while who is the woman in this pic ?
#71 to #69 - budva
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a cunt
User avatar #30 - yuukoku
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This is really true >_< Cannibalism is less productive, but speaking objectively, it would solve the population problem. You also don't look like a pussy doing it.
#48 to #30 - bizzar
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Yfw inviting people for long pig BBQ
Yfw inviting people for long pig BBQ
User avatar #151 to #48 - yuukoku
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Dude, I've got a smoker here that makes meat taste like heaven jizzing in your mouth.
#14 - johnnygat
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