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> hey anon, wanna give your opinion?
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#12 - teamrocketninja
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#145 to #12 - whatamidoingwithme
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This is not the correct time to use that.
#14 to #12 - anon id: 0e7af9ed
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Don't wipe america off the cybermap, wipe america off the face of the earth by nuclear fire.
#88 to #14 - anon id: 2f20a52b
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Hey now, as much as I agree with you wait till I`m out of it
#24 to #12 - mythichyphen
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#78 to #12 - anon id: 7bd39596
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Hey phanact kill yourself. There are people in Anonymous making a difference. Don't judge the many by the few.
#92 to #78 - anon id: 7bd39596
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Does phanact turn into phanact?
#93 to #92 - anon id: 7bd39596
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Oh,it do.
User avatar #141 to #12 - missrainbowdash
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I feel like like this post tries to chip away at the op's point, but fails in doing so.
#82 to #12 - alanflindt
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#33 to #12 - kenleyP
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#39 - I Am Monkey
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#49 to #39 - anon id: 8b195d59
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why the **** edgy?
#81 to #49 - anon id: a27f5e93
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******* PENIS THATS WHY YOU UNINTELIBENT FRICK
#86 to #39 - robotrino
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I played RS but i don't get it
User avatar #94 to #86 - howtosuckdicks
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So edgy he's from Edgeville.
#97 to #94 - robotrino
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thanx
thanx
#28 - zaggystirdust
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I can agree with this   
but now-a-days I just can't take that mask seriously anymore
I can agree with this
but now-a-days I just can't take that mask seriously anymore
User avatar #62 to #28 - thelastamerican
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This is true.
#10 - anon id: c4a2bb4b
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lets stop portraying snowden as a hero. Yes, he let everyone know that the government was had the ability to spy on anyone, and searches for potential terrorists via a method that is questionably constitutional. HOWEVER, he also proceeded to tell other nations about the information we have, how we get it, and whether they are being spied on as well. This is what makes him a criminal, not the whistle blowing. A real hero tells the truth then faces the consequences, because if he truely is right than the people would defend him. Instead he chooses to flee to our countries biggest competitors. classy. If you didnt already know that the governmet had the capability of spying on you than you are naive as ****, and every government that has the ability to spies on other governments. Its been that way since the cold war. Treaties and alliances dont matter, its an extra security measure to make sure you dont get screwed over by your friends.
User avatar #11 to #10 - demandsgayversion
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Although I agree with what you say, it was really hard to read. Use some paragraphs when typing long things, please.
#15 to #10 - anon id: 999c6a75
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Tell me: what "people" would defend him when he was brought to court? Everything he did was right and brave, including fleeing the country.

In other words: JIDF pls
#16 to #15 - anon id: 2bd01cc3
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Everything was right and brave? Apart from the fact that he singlehandedly decided to become moral judge, jury and executioner and attempt to sabotage a legitimate government operation. He did far more than simply tell people, he actively released sensitive documents that undermined the program. What he did reveal wasn't that the NSA HAS been spying on people, it's that they have the POTENTIAL. In the same way that the government also has the potential arsenal to kill every last one of it's citizens a hundred times over.

Snowden is an idiot. The people parading him as a hero are either ignorent of the facts surrounding the whole debalce or are also simply idiots.
#31 to #10 - anon id: 2fafd2d3
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If he hadn't fled and told the opposing governments he would have been killed and the conspiracy covered up you moron. He'd be a real hero then huh? Well a dead one.....
#176 to #10 - anon id: 35cc9984
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Sadly when you just give away your rights and don't fight for them it's only a matter of time until more and more are taken from you. Today is privacy, a few years later you'll have mass torture (reminds me of Guantanamo).
Luckily I'm not american and at least it seems that here we don't have that kind of **** from our goverment, but it still saddens me because I've always admired the USA and many great american citizens, hopefully one day the american people will get their **** together and do something to change their ruling class.
#21 to #10 - infinitereaper
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"If he was truly right the people would defend him"   
   
Do you really think we live in a day and age where such a statement can be considered true? People are so easily swayed the media, peer pressure, and the public opinion, and besides all that you think we can trust anything the our government says? He's a spy? He's giving away our secrets? Is he? Isn't he?    
   
Too much ****** up **** going on, the private sector might have it worse.   
   
You wanna know what I think? I choose the lesser of two evils. I don't even care if he's betraying "sensitive secrets" the benefits outweigh the costs.    
   
There are no room for hero in our world, there is no more justice, and too much corruption. It has poisoned our world.   
   
If you want to make a difference you have to get your hands dirty. And I applaud anyone willing to go that extra mile.
"If he was truly right the people would defend him"

Do you really think we live in a day and age where such a statement can be considered true? People are so easily swayed the media, peer pressure, and the public opinion, and besides all that you think we can trust anything the our government says? He's a spy? He's giving away our secrets? Is he? Isn't he?

Too much ****** up **** going on, the private sector might have it worse.

You wanna know what I think? I choose the lesser of two evils. I don't even care if he's betraying "sensitive secrets" the benefits outweigh the costs.

There are no room for hero in our world, there is no more justice, and too much corruption. It has poisoned our world.

If you want to make a difference you have to get your hands dirty. And I applaud anyone willing to go that extra mile.
#135 to #21 - anon id: c4a2bb4b
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you act as if media, peer pressure, and public opinion have only been around since the 20th century. These things have been around since forever. If it wasnt the internet it was the newspaper, if it wasnt the newspaper it was a guy who would yell stuff in the streets
#169 to #135 - anon id: 35cc9984
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But you are forgetting something, it's not simple media, it is BIG MEDIA, the amount of power they hold is overwhelming, and they are owned/payed by all the big corporations for them to pursue their interests, even if that means violating everyone's rights.
#171 to #169 - anon id: 35cc9984
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compared to pre-industrial revolution media, the amount of influence the media had was relative small, and they had less ways of enforcing an agenda, no tv, no radio, internet, viral videos, etc.
#26 to #21 - anon id: 2bd01cc3
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What benefit? The public gained literally nothing but the knowledge that if they so chose, the government has the capability to spy on you. Mind ******* blown right? Make sure you're absolutely clear - he did not reveal ANYTHING that suggests they HAVE been spying on their own. Nothing whatsoever. His actions were a classic case of espionage - he didn't like the capability and took it upon himself to actively try and sabotage the whole program. He's not a hero, he's not even close and there are no benefits to what he did.
#29 to #26 - sparkysparkybooman
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Actually, we already knew the government could spy on us if they chose. Ever heard of the Patriot Act? I'm still confused as to why people are freaking about about this surveillance thing likes its anything new. It's been going on for over 10 years. How did no one know that?
Actually, we already knew the government could spy on us if they chose. Ever heard of the Patriot Act? I'm still confused as to why people are freaking about about this surveillance thing likes its anything new. It's been going on for over 10 years. How did no one know that?
#50 to #29 - anon id: 2bd01cc3
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The thing that gets me is: The NSA havn't even been spying on us Americans. They just could if they really wanted to. The only thing they have on americans is metadata thats been bulk-harvested as traffic from foreign stations.
#199 to #50 - sparkysparkybooman
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Pretty much. They just collect all the data they can thats flying around in the air (very vague analogy, but go along with it) and yes, store it in their database. If key words or phrases turn up, or if your a suspected terrorist they can go through it and see what the **** you up to.

In all honesty, I don't care if the NSA spies on me. I'm not a terrorist, so I'm fine.

However, the problem I see is that it violates the fourth amendment of unreasonable search and seizures. They don't even ask the citizens if they can take the information, and do so with relatively no reason (besides national security, but not everyones a terrorist...)

Anyway. Yea. Hope more people educated themselves on the topic and stop acting likes it new.
User avatar #25 to #21 - EnergizierAnon
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"... and there is no queen of england."
#17 to #10 - seizure
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So, I'm not a US citizen. If someone told the US government was spying on me for no ******* reason, I wouldn't consider them a criminal. Stop being butthurt just because it's your country, they're breaking everyone's basic human rights, and not even respecting their own constitution. All nations are governed by hypocrites, I'd take Snowden over them any time.
User avatar #77 to #17 - admiralen
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are you retarded? hes a criminal cause he spread and stole classified information
User avatar #137 to #77 - lube
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-That also turned out to expose the ludicrous mass surveillance activities of the U.S./U.K governments. Also notice how the ones calling him a criminal are the ones he outed.
User avatar #196 to #137 - admiralen
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he also sold ******* classified information to china and russia
#20 to #17 - anon id: c4a2bb4b
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did you even read the comment
#13 to #10 - sexuality
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I agree in a sense, but saying that "if he is truly right than the people would defend him" just lost me. Have you seen the mass protests happening in Texas in regards to the new abortion bill? The government doesn't bend to the whim of it's people anymore. Had Snowden done right and stayed in the U.S. he'd be behind bars now, and we would have long forgotten of him. The government does what it wants, our opinions no longer matter. That's just the way it is.
User avatar #136 to #13 - lube
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Totally agree but do you think there is any chance the people can change this fear and control regime they have over us, not just in the U.S but the world?
#19 to #13 - anon id: c4a2bb4b
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i agree with your opinion on how the ogvernment doesnt bend to the will of the people anymore, but idont agree that our opinionsno longer matter. The government doesnt acknowlegde us because there have been very few mass movements since the civil rights era.
You are right that snowden would have been put in jail and we would have forgotten about him. But that just means that we as a society dont care enough about him. Thus, he was not the hero we claim him to be.
If he really was a hero of the people there would be a protest of a few million to let him go, and the government would have respond in some way.
User avatar #1 - sketchE
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getting real tired of this ****
User avatar #2 to #1 - thewowpimp
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Would it be ironic to flag this for terrorism?
User avatar #3 to #2 - sketchE
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well since it portrays guy fawkes who attempted to blow up british parliment i wouldnt see why not
#4 to #3 - anon id: e9b9f7a3
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I believe it's supposed to be "V" from V for Vendetta. Admittedly it is still a Guy Fawkes mask, but his point in the movie is exactly what the above picture is getting at.
Governments are terrified of the people they rule over becoming aware of the crazy **** they are actually doing; so they'll do anything to shut up the whistle blowers.
But, everyone knows we're *********** here already, not much of a point stating that fact anymore. Bitching get's nothing done, but it's easier than starting a revolution.
While not every government is completely ******, the united states is. It's just a dictatorship where you pick who you get to complain about and blame **** on for the next four years.
User avatar #6 to #4 - sketchE
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its really not. the government is only bad because the people dont know what theyre doing and allow the media to feed them their opinions instead of finding them on their own.theres nothing wrong with the system just the people
#41 to #6 - anon id: 97a8ec13
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Oh, there's plenty wrong with the system. Saying it's perfect is just as ignorant as saying anarchy is the best option. It's a system run by people and people are inherently flawed.
User avatar #89 to #41 - sketchE
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i didnt say its perfect but its always going to be a system run by people and it makes up for most of its flaws. id rather a system run by the people as opposed to a single person
#63 - Keleth
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country was founded on "**** government, lets keep it small as ****, we don't need to be ruled again"

country today "who cares if the government is accessing our texts and calls? i don't have anything to hide."

Where the **** did the US go? Its like people don't care about their own god damn freedom. I can't believe people are willing to give it up, and its not even FOR anything helpful. you really think the terrorists are texting eachother about bomb plans? especially now that the cat is out of the bag that your taking all that data.
#68 to #63 - anon id: 489a114e
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Read "The Leviathan" by Thomas Hobbes. Really interesting in the fact that's slightly true about how man gave up what freedom he had for protection by a government that will stab him in the back when he's not looking.
User avatar #132 to #63 - Drstein
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The United States had a "weak" central government at first after they passed the Articles of the Confederation in 1777, but they saw the flaws of a weak central government and created the United states Constitution which they ratified in 1788,
tl;dr US changed from weak government to strong Government early on in its history
-sources - History
#74 - lafuriaroja
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Okay. We get it. FJ is full of radical anarchists and Ron Paul should be our king. Let it go.
Okay. We get it. FJ is full of radical anarchists and Ron Paul should be our king. Let it go.
#161 to #74 - ronyx
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That was this post and most of FJ in a nutshell.
That was this post and most of FJ in a nutshell.
#163 to #74 - anon id: 10a493ae
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Better to be that then a castrated clown of soceity, funny enough, just like you.
User avatar #193 to #163 - lafuriaroja
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Teach me to be as hardcore as you
#186 to #74 - anon id: 35cc9984
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Are you spanish by any chance?
User avatar #191 to #186 - lafuriaroja
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That I am
User avatar #109 to #74 - hhanako
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>anarchy
>king

choose one.
#110 to #109 - lafuriaroja
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User avatar #146 to #110 - nervaaurelius
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Wow you talked crap about god emperor Ron Paul and you didn't get red thumbs?


I like you
#192 to #146 - lafuriaroja
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#61 - zorororonoa
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#48 - juha
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Anonümoose
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How's the 9th grade going?