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#2 - crazyolitis
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Actually, cows back then weren't easy to cats. They were tanks made of muscle, fat and sharp horns. By the way, we owe our intelligence gto the necesary fats and protein in meat, which allowed us to grow big brains.
#5 to #2 - anon id: b5da6d34
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"weren't easy to cats"
that sentence is a *******.
User avatar #6 to #5 - crazyolitis
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Ah, thanks for poiting that out, anon. I meant "weren't easy to catch"
#54 to #6 - anon id: 64aff2dc
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is half of your keyboard broken?
User avatar #55 to #54 - crazyolitis
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Goddamn... I need to go back to school...
#93 to #55 - anon id: 299a813f
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you should really think about using something other than your keyboard for your man juices
User avatar #170 to #2 - zaach
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Our big brains are not from eating meat. We got bigger brains than most species because we walk on our legs and our hands are not needed for our instincts. So we find our own uses for our hands which stimulates the brain much more than anything else.
User avatar #172 to #170 - crazyolitis
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And where did we get the necessary fats and proteins to get those bigger brains? From meat.
User avatar #177 to #172 - zaach
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You're missing the point... If it was mainly for the meat, why doesnt carnivores have far greater intellect than herbivores? Walking upright is the primary reason for our big brains, not the meat.
User avatar #181 to #177 - crazyolitis
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Except that carnivores are generally smarter than herbivores
User avatar #185 to #181 - zaach
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Smarter, but not far smarter. You dont see any cheetahs hunting prey with bows, do you? The human intelligence is still because of the increased stimulus that our hands gave us.
Dont bother replying anymore, atleast I wont as this discussion is not leading anywhere. I merely wanted to shed some light on what you originally posted.
User avatar #195 to #185 - pseudobob **User deleted account**
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thanks for the segue, crazyolitis, but I was talking about animals, not humans in specific.

We're special because we invented the science of cooking, which made our food safer to eat and easier to digest; conserving a lot of energy for use in improving this cooking skill, which was reliant on intelligence - our bodies changing in that direction, humans that didn't want to cook or didn't want to share their culinary knowledge eventually died out. That's what drove our evolutionary tangent away from the other apes more than anything. Tool use is nothing special, but playing with fire - that's what got the proverbial ball rolling.
User avatar #187 to #185 - crazyolitis
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It was a stimulus, but without the buildingblocks, they couldn't get the bigger brains.

You may want to build a house, but if you've only got sand, it's rather hard to make one.

And, lastly, look at comment #122, by pseudobob he knows what's going on.
User avatar #199 to #187 - pseudobob **User deleted account**
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Oh, I forgot to mention, the whole size limitation thing makes pack mentality and social behaviour more desirable among the smarter predators.
#174 to #2 - anon id: d813ed97
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Vitamin b-12 Is most directly linked to the evolutionary increase in human brain size. B-12 is only found in animals and insects.
User avatar #270 to #2 - TastyBurger
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That's not the only reason. In fact, the invention of cooking food was a bigger reason why our brains could grow. Cooking our food acted as a second stomach to help aid in digestion, and since our bodies didn't have to focus on digesting food, our brains were free to grow and develop.
#81 to #2 - martycamp
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We owe our big brains to the fact that females were more likely to mate with more intelligent males.

There's actually considerable evidence that points to large brain size being a sexually selected characteristic, enough so that in my lectures about sexual selection, that's what we got told.

Maybe there's also influence from eating meat, I don't know, but the main reason we have large brains is sexual selection.
User avatar #306 to #81 - linktheherooftime
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I know I'm just talking out my ass right now, but if that's the case then why do some of women I know go after big stupid guys? I mean is our intelligent evolution really at the pinnacle to where women have stopped caring about intelligence as much as brawn?
User avatar #307 to #306 - martycamp
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You have to understand that that sort of thing happened a long way back in our evolution. Nowadays, because the human population is both massive and spread out, as well as there not being any sort of selection pressure on us, what we end up with is a mish-mash. Though in places where malaria is endemic, there is a selection for sickle-cell trait, as it gives a resistance to the parasite.

Though specifically to do with sexual selection, that changes all the time. I believe in medieval times it was considered attractive if you were fat, because it cost a helluva lot of money to be fat. And I would like to point out that most women don't go after the big dumb guys. It would be unfair, and probably genuinely sexist, to insist on that.
User avatar #85 to #81 - crazyolitis
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Now, tell me, which kind of animals have the biggest brains? Animals that eat meat? Or those that only eat plants? Is a dolphin smarter than a cow? Is a dog smarter than a horse?

Ofcourse, eating meat doesn't automatically make an animal smarter, it's just that it makes it easier to have bigger brains.

Anyway, your comment is true as well.
User avatar #86 to #85 - martycamp
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I think you'll find that the largest animals, and generally speaking larger animals have larger brains, are herbivores.

Look at elephants. One of the few animals able to recognise its own reflection, and it's exclusively a herbivore. Chimps and gorillas, too. Though they do eat some meat, they're primarily herbivorous.
User avatar #87 to #86 - crazyolitis
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Elephants are quite unique in that, and you're right when it comes to the apes, but this is also how humanity started out. We first ate only little bits of meat, but as we became smarter we ate more.
User avatar #90 to #87 - martycamp
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Look at it from a genetic point of view. We have our DNA, and that tells us exactly how we're supposed to construct our organs, like the brain.

Just because we're eating more meat won't make our brains bigger, because it doesn't change our DNA. A change in structure of an organ has to come from a mutation, and that mutation gets passed on through selection.
User avatar #264 to #90 - TastyBurger
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It's called Lamarck's theory of evolution or Lamarckism. Eating meat could make one person's brain grow and can possibly still be passed onto subsequent generations.
User avatar #304 to #264 - martycamp
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I love how you're just casually ignoring the fact that Lamarckism has been discredited. There has been a bit of interest due to epigenetics, but getting a bigger brain in any way other than a mutation isn't heritable
#92 to #90 - crazyolitis
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You're quite right. But then how come that most predators have larger brains? And most prey only have such little brains?
User avatar #94 to #92 - martycamp
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Probably because a smarter predator catches more prey. You'd think a smarter herbivore is more likely to escape, but it may be that any intelligence is counteracted by being in a herd, where it's more to do with luck than anything else.
User avatar #122 to #94 - pseudobob **User deleted account**
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crazyolitis, and you marty

I have some insight into this topic. The only things an animal of prey needs to know is how to eat plants, which don't move; how to **** each other, which is fairly straight-forward; and how to run away from predators, which is also straight-forward (hehehe) and only requires that one can run fast. This is also one reason why most herbivores have their eyes on the sides of their heads - so they can look back without turning their head, in case of anything chasing them.

A predator doesn't have it so easy. It must catch things that literally evolved to not get caught by them (because the ones that got away were the ones that ******); they must have the ability to kill and consume what they catch, which is also pretty hard due to defense mechanisms that evolved in the same way; impressing females is harder for them because they don't have as many natural enemies and therefore natural selection had to work extra hard to weed the weak ones out; and if there are any animals that eat them then those ones must be even smarter, stronger and faster. Couple all of this with the increased brain and muscle mass required to catch and consume more energy that's needed to support more brain/muscle mass and you start to get an idea how hard predators have it, because their lifestyle tends to limit their total size which also limits what they can prey on (in most cases).

But, hey, at least they aren't stupid like the herbivores.
#132 to #122 - crazyolitis
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User avatar #144 to #132 - pseudobob **User deleted account**
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aw thanks obama
User avatar #236 to #81 - volshimond
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Predators from Space | Through the Wormhole heres a video
User avatar #305 to #236 - martycamp
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If you actually watched the video, you'd know that what it's saying is "We have a big brain, therefore we need a lot of energy to power it, so we need to eat meat" not "we eat a lot of meat, which gives us a lot of energy which makes us have a big brain."
User avatar #184 to #81 - mcbee
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also the fact that we started walking on two feet allowed us to use our hands to use rocks to scrape off meat from bones and break them to drink the marrow(very high in fat) which was crucial to developping a bigger brain.
#225 to #2 - goodpsize
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"weren't easy to cats"
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#8 - trailoftears
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I know this is funny and i'm gonna start a vegetarian/carnivore *********.

If you're vegetarian, that's cool, i can respect that. But if you feel superior because of that i will punch you in the ******* face. You're not.

Now anyone wanna help me catch a cheetah?
User avatar #89 to #8 - dragondubobski
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I am not a vegetarian, however, Becoming a vegetarian society is, in my opinion, the way of the future. it is healthier, and better for the environment, and I believe that one day there will be a big push to have people become vegetarians, by taxing meat and supplementing iron pills, just as the government will have to do one day for oil.

tldr: vegetarians are ahead of their time
User avatar #96 to #89 - trailoftears
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I think a vegetarian society is a bit extreme.

In my opinion the best scenario would be one where we go back to how nature has planned it for us to be and how it was for thousands of years, only having rather few meals containing meat. That's how i roll right now, i have a maximum of 2 meals a week containing meat and i'm pretty happy with that.
But that's just my version of a good scenario, people can do what they want as long as they let me do what they want, even if it was wrong from my point of view.
User avatar #155 to #96 - dragondubobski
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Either of those situations seem very possible to me, But I doubt either of us will live through when the majority of people make a conscious decision to eat less meat.
#190 to #155 - hoskins
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>implying society is getting smarter
>implying society's conscience is existent
>implying
>implying
>implying
User avatar #309 to #190 - dragondubobski
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I hold firm to the belief that humans are fundamentally good.

fundamentally lazy, too
#314 to #309 - hoskins
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I'd sincerely disagree, but to each his own, kind sir.
#303 to #89 - anon id: 454b469e
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Pescetarian is the Mastery Dietary Race. That's a fact and pretty much every dietitian, doctor, and scientist will back this up.
I'm not a pescatarian, but i envy those bastards.
User avatar #310 to #303 - dragondubobski
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Allergic to shellfish here, and I don't like fish much, so I didn't even consider the possibility, bur as long as we regulate our fisheries well this could work too.

albeit me being a little dead
User avatar #251 to #89 - blooddodo
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And on that day, I will pay my taxes with a worry-free heart, because meat, red especially so, is ******* amazing, and just about the most delicious thing ever. Looking at raw pork and beef makes me salivate more than anything else...
User avatar #217 to #89 - hotsaws
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I doubt that. I could never give up steak. I don't care how much healthier it is.
User avatar #64 to #8 - hudis
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Do you feel superior to vegetarians?
User avatar #80 to #64 - trailoftears
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"If you're vegetarian, that's cool, i can respect that" - Me
User avatar #276 to #80 - hudis
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That didn't really answer the question before you emphasised as you did now, but alright. It was mostly the aggressiveness of the "If you feel superior I will punch you in the ******* face" that made me wonder, because it sounded to me like you didn't consider them on your level. Apologies if I've offended; clearly someone's jimmies were rustled given the amount of red thumbs I got.
User avatar #200 to #8 - thedarkestrogue
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**** yeah I'll help you catch a cheetah. I'll get the drugs.
#234 to #8 - houstonlt
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I am vegetarian and I approve this comment. I punch other vegetarians for the same reason.
#258 to #8 - anon id: 234c220c
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tell me if this is true or false, but i recently learned that babies that arnt exposed to meat while inside their mom are most likely to grow up being a vegetarian?

Is it some sort of allergy or can the habit be fixed? Just curious one what other people think.
User avatar #263 to #258 - shizzleinthedizzle
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Nah. Its because a they will live in a meatless environnement and b they have literally never tasted it before
#308 to #8 - anon id: 28a6e73b
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Actually, yes I ******* would like to help you catch a cheetah. I'd like to bring one if it's cubs home to my fiancee. She would love it 'cause it's her favorite animal. You want to know an easy way to catch them? A fast, sturdy truck and a gun. Now let's go get that ******* cub and it's momma.
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#166 - LeviV
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vegetables aren't exactly speed demons either.
User avatar #186 to #166 - vortexrain
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Meat tastes better.
#48 - insaniacfedde
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Hitler was a vegetarian.   
   
   
He loved animals and owned a dog.
Hitler was a vegetarian.


He loved animals and owned a dog.
User avatar #73 to #48 - scorcho
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he eat meat because of digestive problems. he also normally didn't drink alcohol for the same reason.
#153 to #73 - morkotlap
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#173 to #153 - insaniacfedde
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What a reveal!   
It says Hitler followed a vegetarian diet.
What a reveal!
It says Hitler followed a vegetarian diet.
#176 to #173 - morkotlap
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Well, he wouldn't disapprove of animal-based cometics because of digestive problem, now would he?
#178 to #176 - insaniacfedde
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...point taken...   
All I was trying to say is that vegetarians aren't ALWAYS good people.   
Some people nowadays are like "Yeah, I'm a good person... I'm a vegetarian",   
as if that's a legit argument.
...point taken...
All I was trying to say is that vegetarians aren't ALWAYS good people.
Some people nowadays are like "Yeah, I'm a good person... I'm a vegetarian",
as if that's a legit argument.
#171 to #48 - anon id: f4ad83bf
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that's like saying Osama Bin Laden liked to swim, therefore everybody who likes to swim is a terrorist.

User avatar #280 to #171 - shizzleinthedizzle
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He didnt say anything of the ******* sort
#311 to #280 - insaniacfedde
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indeed. My point in this case would be that if you liked swimming,   
it wouldn't necessarily make you a good person.   
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indeed. My point in this case would be that if you liked swimming,
it wouldn't necessarily make you a good person.
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#3 - yamadashinichi
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Meat is tasty for a reason.
#15 - feelgoodinc
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ereyone knows cheetah taste like cheese.
#113 - chevelleguy
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User avatar #13 - patwed
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I'm a vegetarian, but only because i don't like meat...
and whenever i say im a vegetarian people expect me to be a king high bastard about it... but im not..
User avatar #22 to #13 - vicsix
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How the **** do you not like meat?! I'm not trying to be an ass but... What?
#23 to #22 - draxdiesel
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i'm like patwed, i don't eat meat only because i don't like it. my parents were vegetarian as i was growing up so i never had meat as a kid and to me all meat that ive tried has a horrible texture as well as almost always being dry. also its either bland and flavourless or tastes...well, frankly, just awful. whenever i say this to anyone their usual response is "oh you just haven't eaten good meat," but i promise you i have. if people want to eat meat then i don't give a **** and i don't see why so many people seem to give a **** that i don't want to.
User avatar #37 to #23 - splendiddust
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You have had bacon right?
#39 to #37 - draxdiesel
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i've never been able to bring myself to eat it, the smell of it cooking makes me feel sick. does it taste like it smells?
#100 to #39 - epicawe
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you have to give yourself in for bacon man. dankest piece of food in existence.
i highly advise you to start eating meat, seriously, it gets better.
User avatar #42 to #39 - splendiddust
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in my opinion
User avatar #41 to #39 - splendiddust
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Depends on how you eat it. Its one of those foods that you have to eat it with something else for it to go well. Like Bacon and egg wrap or bacon marinated in maple syrup. Its like on its own its not THAT great. But mix it with other things and it tastes amazing.
#44 to #41 - draxdiesel
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i'll give it a try next time i'm with someone cooking bacon then.
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#40 to #39 - draxdiesel
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i'm prepared for the red thumbs on that one haha
User avatar #24 to #23 - vicsix
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I just didn't know it was possible to not like meat, but okay. Your preference man.
#25 to #24 - draxdiesel
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yeah, a lot of people say that haha. i guess it's probably just the never having had it til i was about 14 but apparently your taste buds change over time so who knows, one day maybe i will. i would like to because it can make eating out or at peoples houses difficult/awkward and especially abroad if you don't speak the language.
User avatar #26 to #25 - vicsix
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You need to eat a ham sandwich if you want to tell. Ham is usually pretty sweet, so you might like it.
#27 to #26 - draxdiesel
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i've had ham a couple of times on pizza and in some pasta thing before and it's certainly the meat i've liked most, or at least minded least.
User avatar #28 to #27 - vicsix
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Get some honey glazed ham, man. I know it's my favorite cold cut.
#29 to #28 - draxdiesel
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i really can't imagine eating meat cold. i think i'll leave that one for a while haha
User avatar #30 to #29 - vicsix
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Alright man. just trying to suggest things that would taste good, and not bland like you said.
#31 to #30 - draxdiesel
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yeah, thanks, i'm just sayin the idea of eating meat cold really doesn't appeal to me. what's your favourite meat overall then?
User avatar #32 to #31 - vicsix
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I'm from Texas, I can't answer that question without years of thought. Right now, though, I'd have to say....................... Medium Rare Steak.
#43 to #13 - Kairyuka
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You're a cool guy and I want to hug you! And possibly cook some vegetarian food for you just because I want to!
User avatar #45 to #13 - thewowpimp
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a hardcore one or do you drink milk and ****?
User avatar #51 to #45 - drldrl
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That's a vegan. Vegans don't eat anything that has anything to do with animals.
User avatar #201 to #13 - goobyman
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want some tofu
never mind tofu is ******* disgusting. i'd rather eat sheep cheese, looks the same and tastes 20000000% better.
#260 - ragingflamingos
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