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User avatar #196 - castellandraco (07/30/2013) [-]
whos your fake god to judge me?
User avatar #271 to #196 - thatoneiranianguy (07/30/2013) [-]
Oh great, another annoying prick Atheist. Damn you Richard Dawkins for making people replicate your ass hole mentality.

Why can't Atheists be more like I don't know? Tyson or something? He doesn't whine about religion and all he cares about is the truth. Why cant you be like this sir? Why? Why are you a phanact?
User avatar #218 to #196 - willindor (07/30/2013) [-]
Indeed. Everybody knows that Jupiter is the real deal.
User avatar #236 to #218 - ishalltroll (07/30/2013) [-]
Only pray to Akatosh anyday everyday.
User avatar #259 to #236 - axeyblahblah (07/30/2013) [-]
Y'all niggas need Quetzalcoatl
#215 to #196 - hydromatic (07/30/2013) [-]
HUURRR I'M SO COOL AND ORIGINAL. GOD SUCKS LEL, I'M GOING TO HELL CAUSE ALL THE COOL PEEPL ARE DEEERRR!
HUURRR I'M SO COOL AND ORIGINAL. GOD SUCKS LEL, I'M GOING TO HELL CAUSE ALL THE COOL PEEPL ARE DEEERRR!

#197 to #196 - sircool (07/30/2013) [-]
what makes you so great to not be judge by anyone?
User avatar #200 to #197 - castellandraco (07/30/2013) [-]
*judged
#201 to #200 - sircool (07/30/2013) [-]
wait, sorry. I didn't know you witnessed the creation of all matter, what exactly made dead material become alive/organic and replicate, or what the fuck happens when you die, all three and possibly more to know if god does or doesn't exist.   
   
please, do share with me this information and i'll renounce any little faith I have and go into the streets in my birthday suite since there'd be no meaning to life, and all organic life is an accident.
wait, sorry. I didn't know you witnessed the creation of all matter, what exactly made dead material become alive/organic and replicate, or what the fuck happens when you die, all three and possibly more to know if god does or doesn't exist.

please, do share with me this information and i'll renounce any little faith I have and go into the streets in my birthday suite since there'd be no meaning to life, and all organic life is an accident.
#329 to #201 - srapture (07/30/2013) [-]
I'm also an atheist, and although I have no problem with your beliefs, I don't much like your attitude to life without it. Because I don't think there is an afterlife or a god/gods judging me, I'll make sure to live this life, my only life, to the fullest and my morality comes solely from myself rather than fear of judgement and punishment of misdeeds by a supernatural being. However, it does seem like you're sticking to your guns here, so I guess we won't need to worry about your naked display any time soon. Caramelldansen not related.
I'm also an atheist, and although I have no problem with your beliefs, I don't much like your attitude to life without it. Because I don't think there is an afterlife or a god/gods judging me, I'll make sure to live this life, my only life, to the fullest and my morality comes solely from myself rather than fear of judgement and punishment of misdeeds by a supernatural being. However, it does seem like you're sticking to your guns here, so I guess we won't need to worry about your naked display any time soon. Caramelldansen not related.
User avatar #202 to #201 - castellandraco (07/30/2013) [-]
can you produce one shred of proof that god exists?
User avatar #353 to #202 - ninjaspartan (07/30/2013) [-]
Can you produce one shred of proof that the sun is going to rise tomorrow?

No, you can't. We just go based on the assumption it will because it always has before.
User avatar #572 to #353 - castellandraco (08/01/2013) [-]
yes we can its a fact that unless the earth is nocked ouit of orbit the sun will rise thats very provable
User avatar #574 to #572 - ninjaspartan (08/01/2013) [-]
Then prove it. Prove that the earth won't get knocked out of orbit. Prove that a natural disaster won't occurred tomorrow at all. Prove that without a shadow of a doubt you're doing to wake up safe and sound no matter what. Go ahead, I dare you to even try.
#212 to #202 - SexBobOmb (07/30/2013) [-]
Can you produce proof that he doesn't?   
   
I'm not religious, but come on, dude   
   
Let the man have his faith. It's not hurtin' you, is it?
Can you produce proof that he doesn't?

I'm not religious, but come on, dude

Let the man have his faith. It's not hurtin' you, is it?
User avatar #325 to #212 - tylosaurus ONLINE (07/30/2013) [-]
As a matter of fact, religion does hurt people. One way or the other.
It'd be okay to say "Who's your god to judge me?", right? The same message would be conveyed.
I mean, if he was gay for example and not a christian or whatever. He wouldn't have to deal with the christians telling him he's going to hell.
#471 to #325 - tinypoodle (07/30/2013) [-]
In all fairness, thats just a dick using religion as an excuse to be hatefull. The very core of religion ( christianity at least) is to love thy neighbor so when used correctly, it doesn't hurt anyone.
User avatar #473 to #471 - tylosaurus ONLINE (07/30/2013) [-]
But who fucking uses it "correctly"?
Not many.
#534 to #473 - xpeh (07/30/2013) [-]
Considering that about half of the population of the U.S. consider themselves Christians, yes, there are actually many that use it "correctly."
User avatar #551 to #534 - tylosaurus ONLINE (07/30/2013) [-]
Preventing gays from being happy when it's none of your damn business is not using it correctly you dense idiot.
Westboro baptist church, so much using it correctly.
There's a whole deal of fucking people that use it "incorrectly", while the rest are pretty damn neutral about things.
User avatar #575 to #551 - ninjaspartan (08/01/2013) [-]
Are you speaking for every one of them? I hope not. You can't be that narrow minded, no one can. Just like plenty of Christians dislike Westburo, plenty more of them use it in the positive light religion is meant to be used in, and keep it a belief meant for the individual as many are supposed to. And don't act like you know the "correct" way to express such a belief when you disagreed with it's practicality in the first place. That's ignorance.
User avatar #576 to #575 - tylosaurus ONLINE (08/01/2013) [-]
I hope you're not narrow-minded and ignorant yourself, because then you'd realize I never said that there aren't a lot of people that use it "correctly". I'm saying there are a lot that use it incorrectly.
There's a reason gay marriage is illegal in USA.
There's a reason jihad here and there and every fucking where.
There's a reason women are opressed and stoned in the souther lands.
User avatar #577 to #576 - ninjaspartan (08/01/2013) [-]
I can scroll up not two inches up the page where you said there aren't a lot of people who use it correctly.

>"But who fucking uses it "correctly?" Not many"

^^^ That was you.

And yes, there are plenty that use it incorrectly. Religion is but one of the many things that humans use like a tool to further his agenda, its part of mankind's darker nature. Religion isn't at fault, mankind is. Furthermore, I feel the need to correct you--gay marriage isn't illegal everywhere in the USA, Jihad aren't everyfuckingwhere, and oppressed women like that live in third world countries where sexism is the least of their problems. There's not a legitimate enough reason nor is that enough of one for such minute examples of tyranny and terrorism to declare that anyone or anything other than the evil within the human heart is to blame.
User avatar #578 to #577 - tylosaurus ONLINE (08/01/2013) [-]
You stupid shit, that's the generalization of RELIGION not CHRISTIANITY. Excluding those hindu and what not of course, but we're talking about religion where people believe in god.
Muslims, christians, catholics and so on.
Catholics opress gays.
America, which is a probably the biggest place with most christians also opress gays in a lot if not most of the states.
Muslims opress gays and women. Heck, there's a load of other bullshit that they do that is bad.

I didn't say it was illegal everywhere. What, wanted me to say "There's a reason gay marriage is illegal in this state, this state, that state, this state and that state"? Fuck no.

You don't think so? There are muslims yelling jihad constantly in many countries, including their own. What, you don't think the twin towers went down because of jihad? Government conspiracy maybe?

No, it's not "least of their problems". You're ignorant and naive apparently. While they have many other problems, that is certainly not least.
User avatar #579 to #578 - ninjaspartan (08/01/2013) [-]
News flash: Christianity is religion. Herp derp. People use christianity just as much as any other religion for tyrannical reasons and personal agendas, aka. oppressing homosexuals, blowing shit up, etc. (I know I'm repeating myself, but it didn't seem to get through to you the first time.

English isn't your first language? I'll give you a second shot at shooting me a short phrase that explained what you meant without sounding ignorant.

Yeah, I'm sorry, do you relate every explosion with a muslim? Perhaps you correlate that the number of explosions in the middle east must be at an all time high just because it's full of middle easterns, there's just got to be tons of them over there, you know, since that's where their kind live. And people wonder why there's conflict over religion.

Right, so you think that in the middle of a tiny, drought ridden, starving country filled with deadly disease and either a corrupt law system or complete anarchy, that when a woman is stoned or mistreated it's because of sexism? A civil rights issue in the middle of a country that barely has any law to begin with let alone the proper living conditions to be concerned with civil rights? Yeah. Sounds real important. We should root that evil out and that'll solve most of their issues in one swoop. (Hint, hint: sounds like something a feminazi would say).

Now calm your tits, Tony Soprano. Try a little more class in your insults this time around.
User avatar #580 to #579 - tylosaurus ONLINE (08/01/2013) [-]
You're fucking retarded and you're missing the point completely.

Braincells aren't what your brain consists of? Apparently not.

I never said I'd relate every explosion with a fucking muslim, you stupid shit stain. This. This proves you're just looking for an argument because you enjoy acting stupid to see people's response. Fuck, you're being racist here. I mean, assuming someone thinks that just because they mentions terrorism, the twin towers. You automatically assume they are racists who think only muslims terrorize shit. Ignorant cunt.

Yeah, because every fucking where down there is filled with diseases and poverty. EVERYWHERE. No it's not you idiot, and even if it is. That is a pretty big problem.
>living conditions
>says it's nothing that you get stoned to death
>living conditions
top lel you retard.
You're derailing this to something else you idiot. We're talking about the bad parts of religion - for example being stoned.
Not some political bullshit about whether it's corrupt or not down in the souther lands.

You racist whore.
#581 to #580 - ninjaspartan (08/01/2013) [-]
I have come to realize you have no idea how to carry an argument. Behind all the 'nu-uh'!'s and 'that's not what I said!'s that you constantly couple with your degenerate vocabulary, I'm getting tired of trying with you. There really is no communicating with imbeciles.

I'll conclude by replying to your points one final time, and then being done with it.

But if you can't come to terms with the fact that you've been implying just short of verbally stating every argument I've given you, then you are quite possibly the sole reason idiots protest against people's civil rights in the first place. Yes, you did and have been implying that an entire culture is related to terrorist action, as most of the middle east is quite religious in one way or another, plenty to an extreme. Your strong distaste for islam along with Christianity is what told me. So you're being extremely racist and also trying to project your fallacy onto me, which is pathetic.

Wow, and I thought my words wouldn't fly any higher above your head.

You:

>a woman getting stoned = sexism
>because in a third world country full of problems much bigger than sexism it couldn't possible be anything else
>religion is the cause for it

Cool story, bro.



I'm not missing the point because you're not making one. Blah blah blah, Christianity and islam is bad and starts wars and no one uses it correctly. That's all you basically said. Oh, and you stated that religion inspired sexism in third world countries when women get stoned. You probably can't tell, but I'm slow clapping right now.

Right, I'm done. Go bash religion and whatnot by sourcing it as the root of all evil somewhere else now so other people can laugh at you. I'm less than amused now.
User avatar #582 to #581 - tylosaurus ONLINE (08/01/2013) [-]
Shit, one of those types.
Yeah, dude.

You totally win. You got this. It's not like even if I put more arguments in there you'll jsut ignore it like a stupid shit and convince yourself you're right.

By reading through your other comments in this thread, it's clear to me that you're retarded.
User avatar #560 to #551 - mayormilkman (07/30/2013) [-]
Ha ha ha, huh?
#475 to #473 - tinypoodle (07/30/2013) [-]
I know, and it's a damn shame.
User avatar #294 to #212 - willisteal (07/30/2013) [-]
actually it is, idiot
#251 to #212 - evilwheatleycore (07/30/2013) [-]
I think I found His username
User avatar #237 to #212 - SmilingJackSmyth ONLINE (07/30/2013) [-]
Let the man have faith, my issue is with what you said.

Burden of proof is on the one who makes the claim. I'm all for the coexistence thing, but let's not forget important stuff like that.
User avatar #222 to #212 - fearlessteacup (07/30/2013) [-]
thumb for you.
#213 to #212 - sircool (07/30/2013) [-]
gurren lagann posted anywhere

swell with manly pride.
#208 to #202 - countsandpaper (07/30/2013) [-]
Can you prove he doesn't exist?
User avatar #211 to #208 - castellandraco (07/30/2013) [-]
i can pick up a rock, i can see a rock, i can throw a rock at you, i can prove a rock exists, can you prove god exists...
User avatar #299 to #211 - dybbthybj (07/30/2013) [-]
Err, nope. You can't actually prove that ANYTHING except your mind exists.

The only certainty is that "l think, therefore l am" - René Descartes
User avatar #231 to #211 - metalguitarest (07/30/2013) [-]
You can prove a rock exists but that wasn't the question. Can you prove that God does not exist? I am not a Christian by any means but I believe anyone should be allowed to have their faith.
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User avatar #243 to #231 - SmilingJackSmyth ONLINE (07/30/2013) [-]
This isn't a question of him being allowed. This is about proof.

And for the last time, NON-EXISTENCE CANNOT BE PROVEN!

Not for god, not for unicorns, not for the flying spaghetti monster, or the mighty lobster cock. You can't prove the non-existence of anything, because it just doesn't work that way.
User avatar #269 to #243 - metalguitarest (07/30/2013) [-]
You have a point, but seem to be missing mine. My point is why bash on a man's faith when if the reverse happened they'd cry like a bunch of femanazi's about being oppressed athiests. How bout we all have our own beliefs and leave everyone else's alone
User avatar #275 to #269 - SmilingJackSmyth ONLINE (07/30/2013) [-]
I've got your point, but it's flawed, because you cannot turn it around and still claim to be a sane person.

My attitude towards religious people (as per archetype) is as follows;

-I believe in god!
Good for you, have a cookie, and mind your own damn business.

-But *insert scientific theory here* is a lie, the bible says so!
Go fuck yourself.

-I found my inner peace, and a new perspective on life thanks to the teachings of my religion!
LISTENING. But you start running now if you're a fucking scientologist, because not even god will save you.
User avatar #284 to #275 - metalguitarest (07/30/2013) [-]
You're first sentence kind of confused me or I'm reading it wrong. Elaborate
User avatar #304 to #284 - SmilingJackSmyth ONLINE (07/30/2013) [-]
and it's *your* Possessive. Not you are. let's mind the grammar in an intelligent conversation, shall we?
User avatar #308 to #304 - metalguitarest (07/30/2013) [-]
Shit my bad thanks, I didn't notice.
#295 to #284 - SmilingJackSmyth ONLINE (07/30/2013) [-]
Also, look at biblehumpers thumbing me down
Also, look at biblehumpers thumbing me down

User avatar #292 to #284 - SmilingJackSmyth ONLINE (07/30/2013) [-]
Okay, here it is:

Christians get a hard time from atheists, because the existence of their god cannot be proven due to lack of evidence.

You cannot turn this around saying well, you can't prove he doesn't exist either, because the burden of proof is on the one that makes the claim. Also, proving somethngi exists is possible. Proving something doesn't exist, is not.
User avatar #303 to #292 - dybbthybj (07/30/2013) [-]
Lazy, so repost:

Err, nope. You can't actually prove that ANYTHING except your mind exists.

The only certainty is that "l think, therefore l am" - René Descartes

But yeah, it doesn't change the fact that it's dumb to make people prove non-excistence
User avatar #305 to #303 - SmilingJackSmyth ONLINE (07/30/2013) [-]
There are other ways to scientlifically measure the existence of the brain.

Or are you talking about consciousness? If so, it's a much more interesting topic.
User avatar #307 to #305 - dybbthybj (07/30/2013) [-]
I meant consciousness. There's no way to say for sure that everything you experience isn't just a figment of of you're own mind.
User avatar #312 to #307 - SmilingJackSmyth ONLINE (07/30/2013) [-]
Again, it's *your*

It really undermines your credibility if you don't pay attention to this.

And about the subject at hand: This is an infinitely more interesting topic, but it really has nothing to do with religion.

But if what you're trying to say is, that you cannot know anything with certainty, since you can only percieve the world through your own senses, why would you even give a second to a religion that you cannot even confirm with the senses you deem unreliable?

That should just make you doubt more, as Descartes did.
User avatar #224 to #211 - guiguito ONLINE (07/30/2013) [-]
you can't pick your brain, you can't see your brain, you can't throw the brain at me, you can't prove your brain exists.
User avatar #276 to #224 - SmilingJackSmyth ONLINE (07/30/2013) [-]
If yes, you just proved your brain doesn't exist.
User avatar #239 to #224 - SmilingJackSmyth ONLINE (07/30/2013) [-]
Are you serious?
User avatar #210 to #208 - castellandraco (07/30/2013) [-]
yea, the fact that theirs different gods alone is one fact, his clear lack of a presence for one, is it really impossible that there is no god, that religion really is just a lie? or is that too improbable for you.
User avatar #221 to #210 - fearlessteacup (07/30/2013) [-]
There are*
#206 to #202 - sircool (07/30/2013) [-]
the mathematical improbability of star dust coming together to solidify, create living tissue, reproduce for millions of years, to learn and grow, to harvest from the ground it stood on, to torch the harvest and mold it, to power the mold to communicate at fast speeds to discuss such a topic is astronomical, to put it in the lightest possible meaning. the fact you live and breathe, the fact your parents, grandparents, and so on lived and breathed is a wonder and miracle at the same time. I'd rather believe some type of sentient being had a hand in it than rather "oh, this shit exploded and came together over here, thus making earth."
the mathematical improbability of star dust coming together to solidify, create living tissue, reproduce for millions of years, to learn and grow, to harvest from the ground it stood on, to torch the harvest and mold it, to power the mold to communicate at fast speeds to discuss such a topic is astronomical, to put it in the lightest possible meaning. the fact you live and breathe, the fact your parents, grandparents, and so on lived and breathed is a wonder and miracle at the same time. I'd rather believe some type of sentient being had a hand in it than rather "oh, this shit exploded and came together over here, thus making earth."
User avatar #326 to #206 - tylosaurus ONLINE (07/30/2013) [-]
He's right though, what you would rather believe in as stated in there does not count as proof.
User avatar #207 to #206 - castellandraco (07/30/2013) [-]
right... s o in an infinite universe, the unlickely happening means god exists,
i asked for proof that's not proof
#209 to #207 - sircool (07/30/2013) [-]
you sort've gave yourself your own proof with the whole 'infinite universe' deal.
User avatar #217 to #209 - castellandraco (07/30/2013) [-]
you still have no proof tho, just evading the question
#219 to #217 - sircool (07/30/2013) [-]
I just gave you a paragraph of proof. you demanded physical evidence like a fucking prick demanding cash upfront, trying to disprove my argument that anything is possible in an infinite universe. I pointed out that the existence of god is possible then in this universe, yet you deny my claim. and say i'm evading the question.

you're not the sharpest tool in the shed, are you?
#238 to #219 - uldification (07/30/2013) [-]
You gave no proof at all. All you did is saying that it's improbable.
#244 to #238 - sircool (07/30/2013) [-]
What in the fuck are you talking about? I pointed out the mathematical near impossibility of any of our existence, and he just said "Pft, don't give me numbers when anything is possible" And point out that he said anything is possible.
#253 to #244 - uldification (07/30/2013) [-]
The mathematical near impossibility is no still no proof. That's like going to the winner of a lottery and say: "You haven't won since it's so unlikely."
#266 to #253 - sircool (07/30/2013) [-]
"That's like going to the winner of a lottery and say: "You haven't won since it's so unlikely." "

also, people say no one ever wins the lottery, yet winners exist.

and you're comparing numbers in the thousands to the trillions of billions of millions.
#268 to #266 - uldification (07/30/2013) [-]
So what? Proof is black or white. Either it's possible or not. If there's a chance then you didn't disprove that the earth is a product of chance.

What I'm saying is don't use the word "proof" for something that isn't solid proof.
#274 to #268 - sircool (07/30/2013) [-]
fine then, mr. "I hate numbers"

Well, let's go back to the infinite universe idea since all my other proof is invalid since you ordered it to be so.
User avatar #300 to #274 - SmilingJackSmyth ONLINE (07/30/2013) [-]
You really haven't given any proof, nor has anyone ever.

Proof means testable and repeatable evidence.

For instance proof of god would be, if he answered prayers, and did so consistently.

Proof would be if he was visible, measurable, and knowable by other parameters. There are no such parameters.
#291 to #274 - uldification (07/30/2013) [-]
I've never said the universe is infinite nor that I hate numbers.
Please don't make things up because none of your "proof" is anything other than a indication for that your theory could be potentialy right.
User avatar #296 to #291 - sircool (07/30/2013) [-]
" a indication for that your theory could be potentialy right"

but that's what proof is! how can I win this argument when you say that my proof isn't proof at all!
#298 to #296 - uldification (07/30/2013) [-]
By fully proofing your theory and not only shed a little doubt on the other theory.
Just because it is unlikely doesn't mean it can't have happened.
User avatar #198 to #197 - castellandraco (07/30/2013) [-]
no im fine to be judged, i said "whos your fake god to judge me? " how can something/someone that dscent exist render judgment, its just not possible.
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