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#141 - anonymous (07/29/2013) [-]
Dont deny child's rights for your ass's pleasure. Marriage was meant to defend the rights of children to have both a father and mother, who represents their identity, lineage, and history, about the future equality of children who are motherless or fatherless compared to those who are raised by their father and mother. Today this right of the child can be bought on the market place by homo people.
1 Mama + 1 Papa = True Parents. Lessons from the French.
1. "The rights of children trump the right to children. As a society we should not be encouraging this. It’s not biologically natural.” Jean-Marc, a homosexual French mayor.
2. “In France, marriage is not designed to protect the love between two people. Marriage is specifically designed to provide children with families. The most serious study done so far demonstrates quite clearly that a child has trouble being raised by gay parents.” said Xavier Bongibault, an atheist homosexual.
#310 to #141 - caelinnis (07/29/2013) [-]
I was raised by my grandmother, not my mother or father.

And whatever study Xavier read, is wrong. Try reading an unbiased study, children raised by gay parents are perfectly normal. Most of them are straight, too.
#235 to #141 - anonymous (07/29/2013) [-]
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Go **** yourself.

Sincerely,
-Ex military cop, bisexual.
User avatar #157 to #141 - articulate (07/29/2013) [-]
My father left when I was a month old and yes, I do feel like I needed a father figure, but I would rather have only a mother than no parents at all.
#152 to #141 - anonymous (07/29/2013) [-]
3. "I was raised by two women, suffered from the lack of a father, a daily presence, a character and a properly masculine example, some counterweight to the relationship of my mother to her lover. I was aware of it at a very early age. I lived that absence of a father, experienced it, as an amputation. As soon as I learned that the government was going to officialize marriage between two people of the same sex, I was thrown into disarray. It would be institutionalizing a situation that had scarred me considerably. In that there is an injustice that I can in no way allow. I would've jumped into the fray and would have brought a complaint before the French state and before the European Court of Human Rights, for the violation of my right to a mom and a dad." Jean-Dominique Bunel, a specialist in humanitarian law.
#143 to #141 - teranin ONLINE (07/29/2013) [-]
Every orphan and every child raised by a single parent says " **** you, ******* "
#162 to #143 - McGaha (07/29/2013) [-]
I was raised by a single parent, my dad just wasn't there. But I still wanted a dad; thought about what it would be like to play sports with him, and fish with him and such. Orphans crave a father figure as well. So why say **** you anon? If you were raised by a single parent you know as well as anyone that yeah we may have turned out fine but you know you wanted to have a father figure there. so I'll take the red thumbs and agree with Anon on this one
#165 to #162 - teranin ONLINE (07/29/2013) [-]
Here's the problem with that. There are vast amounts of orphans out there in the world, children up for adoption, and children from single parent homes. As such, it cannot be used as a reason to exclude one type of loving parentage from having the ability to raise children. Children deserve a home, and parents who will love them, and that is far more important than the genders of those parents.
#168 to #165 - McGaha (07/29/2013) [-]
I understand what you are saying and to be quiet honest that is why I am on the fence about a lot of issues dealing with child parent relations. I do agree every child deserves a loving home, but at what psychological cost? I mean regardless of whether or not you are for or against same sex marriage you're entire life outlook would change had you been raised by same sex parents. I just feel like that is a strange living environment for a young malleable mind
#169 to #168 - teranin ONLINE (07/29/2013) [-]
All of the studies done have shown that real damage is done to children's psyche in orphanages, and abusive families, and that in homes with parents that aren't abusive, regardless of their gender or how many there are, children almost universally come out more well adjusted and less traumatized.  Let the gay people raise the orphans, they aren't going to turn them gay (that 						****					 doesn't work like that) and it will improve those children's lives in the long run, as far as the science that isn't funded by the heritage foundation is concerned.
All of the studies done have shown that real damage is done to children's psyche in orphanages, and abusive families, and that in homes with parents that aren't abusive, regardless of their gender or how many there are, children almost universally come out more well adjusted and less traumatized. Let the gay people raise the orphans, they aren't going to turn them gay (that **** doesn't work like that) and it will improve those children's lives in the long run, as far as the science that isn't funded by the heritage foundation is concerned.
#175 to #169 - McGaha (07/29/2013) [-]
Alright then you've won me over in that aspect, but even then how do you explain those who have gone through the experience and feel lesser for it for example that quote above by Jean-Dominique Bunel. He truly felt as if he had an absence in his life, an absence any child without a father could understand but one that was unwillingly filled with another female figure rather than the male figure he natural sought for as a child.
(Also out of related images so here is some Richard Hammond)
#178 to #175 - teranin ONLINE (07/29/2013) [-]
He is expressing his opinions based on personal experience, anecdotal evidence is 100% subjective, so just as there are likely children who felt robbed that they had a male and female parent when they hate men or some other individualized bias, there will of course be some instances of people with similar opinions directed at homosexual parentage.  They may have had issue with it, but had their experiences been those of an orphan or a child with only one parent their opinions might have been colored differently.  Furthermore, the way he states it implies that a lot of bad opinions were stated about his father in that household, and that his father was still alive and COULD have been reached but his mother prevented him from taking that action.  Really, it sounds like he had 						****					 parents, and it's not because they were both women.
He is expressing his opinions based on personal experience, anecdotal evidence is 100% subjective, so just as there are likely children who felt robbed that they had a male and female parent when they hate men or some other individualized bias, there will of course be some instances of people with similar opinions directed at homosexual parentage. They may have had issue with it, but had their experiences been those of an orphan or a child with only one parent their opinions might have been colored differently. Furthermore, the way he states it implies that a lot of bad opinions were stated about his father in that household, and that his father was still alive and COULD have been reached but his mother prevented him from taking that action. Really, it sounds like he had **** parents, and it's not because they were both women.
#185 to #178 - McGaha (07/29/2013) [-]
Agreed. Although it would still seem to me the lack of a father is damaging to a child's emotional and mental state. I would have to do more research before I could be sure of my belief on this; but what you have said does make sense my main point at first was simply that every child should have an opportunity for a mother and father but in the end having a loving family is more important regardless of gender. Plus I'm just happy to have actually had a decent discussion on here without it turning into a "You're wrong, I'm right kinda thing." here take this Sherlock image for use in future discusions
#187 to #185 - teranin ONLINE (07/29/2013) [-]
Thanks for that, here, have this Fry and Laurie reaction picture for similar reasons.
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