i do recall Jesus dying that one time - #98113709 added by cornerdav at "gods" and "God" are not the same thing.

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(07/22/2013)[-]

For the love of **** don't get so religiously hyped that you start making up stuff to satisfy your own stubborn beliefs. The writer of Thor has on several occasions said that Loki and Thor indeed are gods. Thor was created because Stan Lee wanted to create a character who could stand against the Hulk, and the writers realized that the only beings that would be able to stop the Hulk are gods.

Yes, Thor and Loki are gods, people need to stop letting their irrationality distort their opinions on true facts.

#191 to #11 - wagastragas

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(07/22/2013)[-]

right now on the marvel multiverse, loki and thor arent concidered as gods, there is alot of **** like gods of gods of gods and the god of everything and celestials beings ans **** so basicly they are just scum too much crap to explain it with detail

#167 to #11 - anon id: 54e0b660

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(07/22/2013)[-]

"Loki is one of several powerful beings from the magical realm of Asgard, who have been worshipped as gods."

More on Marvel.com: marvel.com/universe/Loki#ixzz2Zn7E5jkQ

#158 to #11 - kanali

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(07/22/2013)[-]

In the comics, yeah they're gods, but in the movies they're not.

#97 to #11 - scorcho

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(07/22/2013)[-]

>true facts
>from comic books

#218 to #97 - fireyvoidence

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(07/22/2013)[-]

There can be true facts the are derived from comic books o-0

Thor and Loki are gods, that's a true fact. The writers wrote them to be so, therefore even though they are not real, the fact that they are gods is still a true fact

Saying that these things aren't facts is silly, and implying that comic books/books/movies are a bunch of opinions.

#77 to #11 - anon id: 94b2625f

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(07/22/2013)[-]

so srsly no1 takes into consideration that thor is a Viking/Norse God??? (aswell as Loki) and that the makers of the Hulk just took the God (wich i beleive to be the only really badass and epic god there is except in he movies, he kinda sucks there and changed literally nothing to him. (maybe only his looks). So wether you look at the movie facts or the real facts. He is either way a God.

#75 to #11 - skaffanl

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(07/22/2013)[-]

But according to Eternity and Death (our entire reality) there is only one God and that it the One-Above-All. If the whole of Marvel reality says there is but one God than isn't that the truth?

#59 to #11 - srskate

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(07/22/2013)[-]

In the movies, from which we are drawing our facts, they are aliens.

#103 to #59 - ruebezahl

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(07/22/2013)[-]

What is the difference between a god and an incredibly alien who is worshipped as a god?

There is no difference whatsoever.

#62 to #59 - fireyvoidence

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(07/22/2013)[-]

... you're really going to derive your facts from the movie?

....... not... you know.....

...............the creators of thor themselves?

#63 to #62 - srskate

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(07/22/2013)[-]

Notice that the pictures are from the movies?

We are going off the movieverse for this one. Not for every argument. Just this one.

#65 to #63 - fireyvoidence

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(07/22/2013)[-]

Just because the pictures are from the movies doesn't mean that we have to talk about the movie (Which, I do recall the Black Widow calling them gods)

No matter how you look at it, Thor and Loki are still characters; whether being displayed in a movie, comic, game, etc., they are characters and their canon facts are written in stone by none others than the writers themselves. They created the characters, so they get to define them, and in this case, the creators define them as gods.

In addition, movies are always inaccurate due to either time issues or the fact the director does not agree with what's given to him and wants to spice up the movie for the sake of the viewers. Movies are never 100% accurate to what they represent (books, comics, historical events, etc.) and so taking the movies word over the original source's is just plain silly. If you had a friend who witnessed 9/11 and he told you that he did not see explosions at the base of the tower, would you believe him or some random TV show with a theorist who claims he has 'first hand accounts' of the explosion?

#66 to #65 - srskate

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(07/22/2013)[-]

Bro, you don't have to explain to me that the two are different. I get that.

And comparing this to 9/11 isn't exactly valid. 9/11 happened one way. Fiction happens in many ways.

A better analogy is fanfiction. Consider the movie is fanfiction. We are going off the fanon for this specific conversation, not the canon.
Black Widow called them gods because, to us, they basically are. Their technology and biology ***** us that badly.

#28 to #11 - TwelveCharlie [OP]

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(07/22/2013)[-]

Provide links, because I've watched the movies, and I'm pretty sure one of the defining characteristics of a god, is immortality, which they don't have, and "These guys come from legend, they're basically gods" doesn't sound like they're actually gods to me.

#104 to #28 - ruebezahl

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(07/22/2013)[-]

The defining characteristic of a god is immortality? Then how come that in most mythologies, gods actually die?

#43 to #28 - cornerdav

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(07/22/2013)[-]

i do recall Jesus dying that one time

#19 to #11 - YllekNayr

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(07/22/2013)[-]

"people need to stop letting their irrationality distort their opinions on true facts. "

>religion

#24 to #19 - foreveraloneninja

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(07/22/2013)[-]

Last time I checked we are talking about a fictional world here, so yes regardless of your beliefs in reality there are gods in this fictional reality.

#25 to #24 - YllekNayr

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(07/22/2013)[-]

.....yeah, that's kind of the point. This fictional world has gods whether you like it or not.