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User avatar #1 - turtletroll (07/21/2013) [-]
I have lots of respect for the troops but they are not automatically a hero for dying either
User avatar #251 to #1 - BubsyB (07/22/2013) [-]
They only ever mention Soldiers on the news who died helping someone else as a "Hero".

At least where I live.
#242 to #1 - stlassassinfhc (07/22/2013) [-]
You make me sick
#238 to #1 - slamweiss (07/22/2013) [-]
They are heroes because they risk their life so that the rest of america does not have to. Im in the military and I would gladly die for america, not very many people can say that.
User avatar #149 to #1 - greenstrongworld (07/22/2013) [-]
Really edgy but perfectly fine by my rules. I agree with you.
#130 to #1 - anonymous (07/22/2013) [-]
Would you not consider someone laying their life on the line for your freedoms of everyday life a hero of some sort? Troops dying every day and all you have to show for it is a dumbass comment like that.. Idiot
#123 to #1 - qwopdude **User deleted account** (07/22/2013) [-]
Regardless if you believed in the cause or not. If they died for it they at least deserve your respect.
#79 to #1 - anonymous (07/22/2013) [-]
I agree. Private Bubba goes full retard and blows himself up on a mine? Not a hero
Dies pushing civilians out of the way of a bomb? Heor.
#12 to #1 - anonymous (07/21/2013) [-]
regardless what the problem is, having the courage to sacrifice yourself for your country. that is what makes someone a hero.
#245 to #12 - anonymous (07/22/2013) [-]
under that logic, Nazi soldiers were heroes of Germany
User avatar #310 to #245 - scorcho (07/22/2013) [-]
nazis were heroes. they were doing no different than what us soldiers are doing today. they also had similiar means of propaganda, if you think about it without any bias.
User avatar #30 to #12 - nylak (07/21/2013) [-]
I doubt "courage" and "patriotism" are the sole motivations at play when one joins the armed forces, in most cases.
User avatar #166 to #30 - badgerclan (07/22/2013) [-]
I was in Civil Air Patrol (sort of like air force rotc mixed with boy scouts) for several years and a lot of the people in my squadron went off to join the military. I don't know a single person who said they wanted to join to protect their country or defend the constitution or anything that we always hear people thanking soldiers for. Most joined for the college opportunities or because they had a family tradition of joining the military.
User avatar #28 to #12 - ireallylikepotatoe ONLINE (07/21/2013) [-]
Yeah, all those Nazi soldiers that died in WWII.

Real heroes.
User avatar #13 to #12 - blazekingxxx (07/21/2013) [-]
But what if your country is in the wrong?

Just following someones else evil orders and destroying a country for oil
#18 to #13 - anonymous (07/21/2013) [-]
They still volunteer, if they don't volunteer we get drafted, simple as that, the US is not going to be without an army, regardless of whatever the **** the public wants. So whether that is how they see it when they're signing up or not, they do a service to the people.
User avatar #5 to #1 - thehans (07/21/2013) [-]
ultimate sacrifice = an hero
#304 to #5 - anonymous (07/22/2013) [-]
Dying doesn't make you a hero it merely shows the respect you had for the people you tried to defend. A hero is someone who was able to defend those people and instead of trying to save hundreds is able to save one.
#14 to #5 - meinneger (07/21/2013) [-]
"an hero" refers to someone who's commited suicide

i could go the low road and call you a newfag, but your name is waaaay bluer than mine
#192 to #14 - Seanxone (07/22/2013) [-]
not sure why that netted you so much red, you were right about what it means
#336 to #192 - meinneger (07/24/2013) [-]
funnyjunk is full of newfags mate, but the content is good so i deal with it
#10 to #5 - taurusguy ONLINE (07/21/2013) [-]
Dont try and make all of them seem like heroes, some of them are just assholes looking for a quick buck.
#271 to #10 - revanthewin (07/22/2013) [-]
That is one of the dumbest things I think I've heard anyone say, ever.

Soldiers basically become military property, devote years of their lives to serving, and risk their lives out in some desert. Not exactly what I'd call a "quick buck". Not to mention that a military salary doesn't really pay all that well, all things considered.
#308 to #271 - taurusguy ONLINE (07/22/2013) [-]
I have no idea what they pay in America, but in my country military gets almost paid the most (except politicians and such) no doctor's nobody, soldiers get paid more, and if you die your family gets paid.
User avatar #326 to #308 - revanthewin (07/22/2013) [-]
In America they don't get paid much, the logic behind that being that they don't have to pay for food or a home. Then of course when they get back the government tries to cheat them out of all their veteran benefits.
User avatar #6 to #5 - turtletroll (07/21/2013) [-]
Well it depends what they sacrificed themselves for.
User avatar #298 to #6 - jewfrojustice (07/22/2013) [-]
oil
#107 to #6 - anonymous (07/22/2013) [-]
It doesnt matter why the government sent them there. All that matters is that they signed onto a job where you go in knowing you may die, and Any person who is willing to sacrifice their life in service to their nation is a hero.
User avatar #7 to #6 - thehans (07/21/2013) [-]
freedom
User avatar #37 to #7 - pabloenis (07/21/2013) [-]
'MURICA INDEPENDENCE
lol
User avatar #8 to #7 - turtletroll (07/21/2013) [-]
To be honest if you knew anything about the war in the middle east you would know that if it wasn`t for america then their own freedoms wouldn`t be under threat
#214 to #8 - anonymous (07/22/2013) [-]
>Implying they had freedom there in the first place.
#57 to #8 - anonymous (07/22/2013) [-]
Most soldiers enter the army under the impression that they are defending the freedoms of their fellow countrymen and families...
User avatar #9 to #8 - thehans (07/21/2013) [-]
i know, but it isnt the men who die in battle who get to make those decisions. its the highly decorated generals who decide who does what and when. the least we can do for the men who die is give them an honorable departure. the reason we are in the middle east is to try and bring democracy to their dictatorship and prevent extremist religious parties from gaining to much power. and oil is probably a factor too. whether you agree with the military or not, they are defending U.S. citizens. and if you cant stand behind them, you are more then welcome to stand in front of them.
User avatar #309 to #9 - scorcho (07/22/2013) [-]
>try and bring democracy to their dictatorship
>prevent religious parties from gaining to much power
>oil is probably a factor too
>probably a factor
>a factor

top lel.
User avatar #328 to #309 - thehans (07/22/2013) [-]
i mean we arent stealing the oil as far as i know. you know why there are so many rich ************* in saudi arabia? because we BUY the oil from them, and its called business.
also, fun fact: most of our oil comes from alaska, canada, and venezuela. only about 10% comes from the middle east
#281 to #9 - skaffanl (07/22/2013) [-]
I don't understand. So going to the Middle East and try to bring democracy to their dictatorship and prevent extremist religious parties from gaining too much power is the same as defending U.S. citizens? I do not think the American military's primary focus is defending U.S. citizens when you're forcing a way of governing on an entire nation. I don't even know how you can justify it. I mean when the Soviet Union tried to convert countries to communism they probably thought they were doing what's best while America was heavily doubting that. So what makes this "bringing democracy" so much more justified than the Soviets "bringing communism". I remember recalling that America armed Afghanistan forces just so Afghanistan wouldn't become a communist country while the Soviets were also trying to prevent dictatorship and extremist religious parties from gaining too much power back then. I also remember recalling that the weapons the Americans gave to those Afghan warriors were later used against Americans themselves by Al Qaida nonetheless. Good job protecting U.S. citizens.   
   
I'd say the American Military's primary focus is control over as much as possible. The American military has more than 20 permanent army bases all over the world. There are 0 permanent foreign army bases within U.S. borders. Looks like a little bit more than protecting U.S. citizens to me. But maybe I have prejudice so of course I am open to a fair discussion without resulting to name-calling.
I don't understand. So going to the Middle East and try to bring democracy to their dictatorship and prevent extremist religious parties from gaining too much power is the same as defending U.S. citizens? I do not think the American military's primary focus is defending U.S. citizens when you're forcing a way of governing on an entire nation. I don't even know how you can justify it. I mean when the Soviet Union tried to convert countries to communism they probably thought they were doing what's best while America was heavily doubting that. So what makes this "bringing democracy" so much more justified than the Soviets "bringing communism". I remember recalling that America armed Afghanistan forces just so Afghanistan wouldn't become a communist country while the Soviets were also trying to prevent dictatorship and extremist religious parties from gaining too much power back then. I also remember recalling that the weapons the Americans gave to those Afghan warriors were later used against Americans themselves by Al Qaida nonetheless. Good job protecting U.S. citizens.

I'd say the American Military's primary focus is control over as much as possible. The American military has more than 20 permanent army bases all over the world. There are 0 permanent foreign army bases within U.S. borders. Looks like a little bit more than protecting U.S. citizens to me. But maybe I have prejudice so of course I am open to a fair discussion without resulting to name-calling.
User avatar #327 to #281 - thehans (07/22/2013) [-]
yes we gave the middle east weapons in the 80"s but you know why? because they were fighting the russians and the enemy of my enemy is my friend. so we were temporarily allies. but then they started using those weapons against israel because of some dumbass thousand year holy war that they are still butthurt about. so we went back to being enemies. and the big reason we actually invaded was to ASSURE that they did not have any weapons of mass destructon because you know that any member of the taliban would destroy the entire western culture with a push of a button. we dont have as many troops marching on american soil because the taliban doesnt have to be in america to destroy america.
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User avatar #24 to #9 - stupro ONLINE (07/21/2013) [-]
They're not defending US citizens. They defend economic interests of the few selected individuals.
#272 to #24 - fiskars (07/22/2013) [-]
Still, they're out there doing the job, so YOU don't have to, dying for YOU.
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User avatar #31 to #24 - nylak (07/21/2013) [-]
This right here. Anyone who believes otherwise, in our current state of international affairs, is a victim of half-assed propaganda.
#19 to #9 - sadawedsa **User deleted account** (07/21/2013) [-]
Put perfectly
Put perfectly
#11 to #9 - anonymous (07/21/2013) [-]
They are not defending US citizens.

If they want to protect my rights, my freedoms, my liberties and my privacy they'd be marching down Washington not Baghdad.
User avatar #158 to #11 - crazyhindu (07/22/2013) [-]
well you're kind of right.
User avatar #2 to #1 - nooneofinterest (07/21/2013) [-]
I have respect for some of them

But some of them are unsympathetic bullies
#3 to #2 - mcderper ONLINE (07/21/2013) [-]
I respect authority.
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