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    User avatar#18 - lavitts
    Reply+112
    (07/09/2013)[-]
    I wanna know more about Sauron and Morgoth.
    #263 to #18 - bumbojumbo
    Reply0
    (07/09/2013)[-]
    Read the silmarillion
    #157 to #18 - anon id: 380bcdc5
    Reply0
    (07/09/2013)[-]
    morgoth is basically (religiousbros, if I'm wrong, help me) lucifier. Iluvatar created the valar. and morgoth was the first. the valar then sang the universe into existence and morgoth kept trying to add his own notes to it. s'all i can remember off the top of my head5
    #93 to #18 - anon id: 3e00ebd5
    Reply0
    (07/09/2013)[-]
    Read the Silmarilion you illiterate *******.
    #56 to #18 - creepingquincy
    Reply+1
    (07/09/2013)[-]
    In the early ages Sauron could shapeshift, he's Morgoth's lieutenant and he's a sneaky cunt, he basically destroyed Numenor single handedly by corruption by taking the form of a man which they pitied, also after being killed in the battle of Dagorlad he took the form of a necromancer at Dol Guldur in Mirkwood
    User avatar#83 to #56 - toensix
    Reply+1
    (07/09/2013)[-]
    While Sauron did **** Numenor up beyond reason, he wasn't the one who destroyed it. That was Eru Illuvatar.
    #246 to #83 - creepingquincy
    Reply+1
    (07/09/2013)[-]
    yes but sauron did play a huge part in leading up to its downfall, he told them to worship other gods or some **** which got Iluvatar angry and just destroyed it
    #274 to #246 - creepingquincy
    Reply0
    (07/10/2013)[-]
    we can all agree he's quite the badass
    User avatar#259 to #246 - TheCanadianPatriot
    Reply0
    (07/09/2013)[-]
    If I remember correctly he tricked the last king of Numenor into worshipping Morgoth. He basically created a religion of worshipping Morgoth so manipulate people into following him.
    #53 to #18 - rasp
    Reply0
    (07/09/2013)[-]
    Morgoth (or Melkor) is kind of "the true bad guy", I mean he is a Valar, Sauron is just one of his "minion", a Maiar. Gandalf is a Maiar too, as said in OP's post. But I'll let galgawine explain all of that in one of his post!
    #41 to #18 - jboienggh
    Reply+8
    (07/09/2013)[-]
    I know you mean you want OP to make more posts but if you feel like it, you can learn a lot about the world of Lord of The Rings from this book.
    I know you mean you want OP to make more posts but if you feel like it, you can learn a lot about the world of Lord of The Rings from this book.
    #49 to #41 - anon id: 51dd074a
    Reply0
    (07/09/2013)[-]
    Absolutely right. OP does a great job but he could provide the sources of that knowledge : The Silmarillion and the unfinished tales of middle-earth (vol 1 to 3) + some of tolkien's letters and Faerie where Tom Bombadil is mentionned.

    There are three levels of "I love LOtR/Tolkien" people :
    - dirty have-only-seen-the-movies peasants (aka *********** cumbuckets)
    - people who read the book
    - people who read the rest of Tolkien's work and have a better comprehension of it

    OP is the third type, but don't let that fool you. He's no god he has just read. nd so should you, and then OP's posts would just make you like "heh, I know that. Sweet. I should read [any Tolkien book you like] once again"

    Have a nice day ya'll
    #174 to #49 - jarelk
    Reply+6
    (07/09/2013)[-]
    Call me a *********** cumbucket, but I just found the books unbearable to read. I read the Hobbit and enjoyed it, but the first part of the LotR trilogy was so boring at the start I didn't feel like reading the rest.
    Call me a *********** cumbucket, but I just found the books unbearable to read. I read the Hobbit and enjoyed it, but the first part of the LotR trilogy was so boring at the start I didn't feel like reading the rest.
    User avatar#21 to #18 - galgawine [OP]
    Reply+34
    (07/09/2013)[-]
    I am strongly considering doing that actually, especially since you are the only person who has requested a character. sauron/morgoth:1 everyone else:0
    User avatar#266 to #21 - yyh
    Reply0
    (07/09/2013)[-]
    Have you ever thought of doing a post-Hobbit thing. I'd like to know what happened to all of those dwarfs after the end of their quest.
    User avatar#223 to #21 - colfer
    Reply+2
    (07/09/2013)[-]
    Yes, please talk about Sauron! I heard rumors that he was supposed to be present at the battle at the Black Gates i the third movie but was cut, anyone know more? Also, consider doing one about important buildings, like who built the Black Gates and the story of Minas Morgul. Great work so far!
    User avatar#225 to #223 - galgawine [OP]
    Reply+2
    (07/09/2013)[-]
    Sauron was originally going to be like the final boss for Aragorn to fight yeah, but they took that because one: that's a retarded idea two: the point of the fight at the black gates is that it was a seemingly hopeless sacrifice to buy fro do time, even though all the evidence says fro do is dead. To have Aragorn fight Sauron would have just been demeaning to what Aragorn was there to do.
    User avatar#227 to #225 - colfer
    Reply0
    (07/09/2013)[-]
    Yes, it was more of a last "**** you" to Sauron and to show that humanity wouldn't go down without a fight. Man, it's been ao long since I read the books...
    #215 to #21 - Animalkilla
    Reply0
    (07/09/2013)[-]

    Sauron/morgoth and definatley the ainur/Eru lluvatar. That is never talked about and I read on another site (none other then wiki) about the book never finished, the Silmarillion
    User avatar#181 to #21 - flambenobunaga
    Reply0
    (07/09/2013)[-]
    +1 Sauron and Morgoth
    User avatar#156 to #21 - hotschurl
    Reply0
    (07/09/2013)[-]
    +1 Sauron/Morgoth. I think i know almost everything there is to know about them but i really dig your style.

    By the way, "Maiar" and "Valar" are plural. The singular forms are Maia and Vala.
    #105 to #21 - djoka
    Reply0
    (07/09/2013)[-]
    We want Witch king!!!
    #66 to #21 - anon id: 589436f8
    Reply0
    (07/09/2013)[-]
    Could you do one for the dwarves as well? I know little about the lore for them aside from something about how the Tolkien equivalent of God's angels created them because they could. But their history may be interesting, especially since they barely appeared in battles during the trilogy
    #270 to #66 - normann
    Reply0
    (07/09/2013)[-]
    Funfact: The dwarves were created by Aule, when he grew restless waiting for the arrival of the children of Iluvatar aka Elves and Men. At first he had to think about them to make them "live". But this was not allowed by Iluvatar, as only he was allowed to create life,(thats what Morgoth wanted to do the most, and one of the reasons he rebelled) so when Eru Iluvatar came and he first had to slay them or something, but thats not how that went down. insted Aule gave them to Eru and he gave them the flame of Iluvatar, making them able to live without the help of aule. The dwarfs were then buried under the mountains of Middle-Earth until the comming of the Elves, because Eru had decided that the elves where to be the first born children of the earth. Thats the short story. Sorry for bad English
    User avatar#194 to #66 - nitupsar
    Reply+1
    (07/09/2013)[-]
    yea, dwarf facts pls
    #46 to #21 - eyeofsauron
    Reply0
    (07/09/2013)[-]
    I would like to learn more about them. I plan on reading The Silmarillion, but I have to finish The Lord of the Rings first.
    User avatar#37 to #21 - pjotor
    Reply+4
    (07/09/2013)[-]
    You make a lot of references to Morgoth so it would be nice to know more about him
    User avatar#32 to #21 - hypex
    Reply+3
    (07/09/2013)[-]
    i want this too
    User avatar#22 to #21 - lavitts
    Reply+3
    (07/09/2013)[-]
    **** YEAH!
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