Funfact: The dwarves were created by Aule, when he grew - #97010550 added by normann at LotR Facts: Part 4

#18 - lavitts

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I wanna know more about Sauron and Morgoth.

#263 to #18 - bumbojumbo

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Read the silmarillion

#157 to #18 - anon id: 380bcdc5

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morgoth is basically (religiousbros, if I'm wrong, help me) lucifier. Iluvatar created the valar. and morgoth was the first. the valar then sang the universe into existence and morgoth kept trying to add his own notes to it. s'all i can remember off the top of my head5

#93 to #18 - anon id: 3e00ebd5

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Read the Silmarilion you illiterate *******.

#56 to #18 - creepingquincy

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In the early ages Sauron could shapeshift, he's Morgoth's lieutenant and he's a sneaky cunt, he basically destroyed Numenor single handedly by corruption by taking the form of a man which they pitied, also after being killed in the battle of Dagorlad he took the form of a necromancer at Dol Guldur in Mirkwood

#83 to #56 - toensix

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While Sauron did **** Numenor up beyond reason, he wasn't the one who destroyed it. That was Eru Illuvatar.

#246 to #83 - creepingquincy

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yes but sauron did play a huge part in leading up to its downfall, he told them to worship other gods or some **** which got Iluvatar angry and just destroyed it

#274 to #246 - creepingquincy

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we can all agree he's quite the badass

#259 to #246 - TheCanadianPatriot

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If I remember correctly he tricked the last king of Numenor into worshipping Morgoth. He basically created a religion of worshipping Morgoth so manipulate people into following him.

#53 to #18 - rasp

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Morgoth (or Melkor) is kind of "the true bad guy", I mean he is a Valar, Sauron is just one of his "minion", a Maiar. Gandalf is a Maiar too, as said in OP's post. But I'll let galgawine explain all of that in one of his post!

#41 to #18 - jboienggh

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I know you mean you want OP to make more posts but if you feel like it, you can learn a lot about the world of Lord of The Rings from this book.

#49 to #41 - anon id: 51dd074a

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Absolutely right. OP does a great job but he could provide the sources of that knowledge : The Silmarillion and the unfinished tales of middle-earth (vol 1 to 3) + some of tolkien's letters and Faerie where Tom Bombadil is mentionned.

There are three levels of "I love LOtR/Tolkien" people :
- dirty have-only-seen-the-movies peasants (aka *********** cumbuckets)
- people who read the book
- people who read the rest of Tolkien's work and have a better comprehension of it

OP is the third type, but don't let that fool you. He's no god he has just read. nd so should you, and then OP's posts would just make you like "heh, I know that. Sweet. I should read [any Tolkien book you like] once again"

Have a nice day ya'll

#174 to #49 - jarelk

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Call me a *********** cumbucket, but I just found the books unbearable to read. I read the Hobbit and enjoyed it, but the first part of the LotR trilogy was so boring at the start I didn't feel like reading the rest.

#21 to #18 - galgawine [OP]

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I am strongly considering doing that actually, especially since you are the only person who has requested a character. sauron/morgoth:1 everyone else:0

#266 to #21 - yyh

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Have you ever thought of doing a post-Hobbit thing. I'd like to know what happened to all of those dwarfs after the end of their quest.

#223 to #21 - colfer

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Yes, please talk about Sauron! I heard rumors that he was supposed to be present at the battle at the Black Gates i the third movie but was cut, anyone know more? Also, consider doing one about important buildings, like who built the Black Gates and the story of Minas Morgul. Great work so far!

#225 to #223 - galgawine [OP]

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Sauron was originally going to be like the final boss for Aragorn to fight yeah, but they took that because one: that's a retarded idea two: the point of the fight at the black gates is that it was a seemingly hopeless sacrifice to buy fro do time, even though all the evidence says fro do is dead. To have Aragorn fight Sauron would have just been demeaning to what Aragorn was there to do.

#227 to #225 - colfer

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Yes, it was more of a last "**** you" to Sauron and to show that humanity wouldn't go down without a fight. Man, it's been ao long since I read the books...

#215 to #21 - Animalkilla

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Sauron/morgoth and definatley the ainur/Eru lluvatar. That is never talked about and I read on another site (none other then wiki) about the book never finished, the Silmarillion

#181 to #21 - flambenobunaga

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+1 Sauron and Morgoth

#156 to #21 - hotschurl

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+1 Sauron/Morgoth. I think i know almost everything there is to know about them but i really dig your style.

By the way, "Maiar" and "Valar" are plural. The singular forms are Maia and Vala.

#105 to #21 - djoka

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We want Witch king!!!

#66 to #21 - anon id: 589436f8

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Could you do one for the dwarves as well? I know little about the lore for them aside from something about how the Tolkien equivalent of God's angels created them because they could. But their history may be interesting, especially since they barely appeared in battles during the trilogy

#270 to #66 - normann

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Funfact: The dwarves were created by Aule, when he grew restless waiting for the arrival of the children of Iluvatar aka Elves and Men. At first he had to think about them to make them "live". But this was not allowed by Iluvatar, as only he was allowed to create life,(thats what Morgoth wanted to do the most, and one of the reasons he rebelled) so when Eru Iluvatar came and he first had to slay them or something, but thats not how that went down. insted Aule gave them to Eru and he gave them the flame of Iluvatar, making them able to live without the help of aule. The dwarfs were then buried under the mountains of Middle-Earth until the comming of the Elves, because Eru had decided that the elves where to be the first born children of the earth. Thats the short story. Sorry for bad English