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#10 - rhiaanor

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(07/03/2013) [-]

WHy the **** would you tell him, now he'll just find real stuff. Silly parents.

#364 to #10 - anon id: 4f5a927e

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What I've read is that it affects memory and some cognitive abilities WHILE you're stoned, but there are NO measurable long term effects.

#11 to #10 - anon id: c3d55deb

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(07/03/2013) [-]

smoking oregano is probably worse for than you actual marijuana.

#288 to #11 - anon id: 7ea60431

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Probably not considering how it has no active chemical components. It would irritate your lungs like any other smoke but that's it.

#12 to #11 - rhiaanor

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It probably just gives your breath flavor or some ****. I doubt it would actually do anything bad. And also, you don't know that, marijuana could or could not be bad, there just hasn't been any non-biased large researches on the topic to prove anything.

#13 to #12 - XxMyNameIsChancexX

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Yes there have. Research indicates that in terms of cognitive function, marijuana either very minimally impairs it, doesn't at all, most of the time impairment only effects short term memory. In terms of physical health, the only thing about weed that could harm you is if you smoke it. So just having cannabis edibles, and getting retarded high off them is completely healthy. Even if you use a vaporizer, you're golden. Oregano just harms the **** out of our lungs.

I can't remember the exact source of this study but i remember reading it, and they brought in a bunch of people, half stoners of all ages, genders, smoking history, and smoking habits. The other half being non stoners.

Between the two groups there was slight, and unsignifigant, or no, change in cognitive function based on IQ tests and the like.

This message brought to you by a stoner that knows his ****, and cares.

#398 to #13 - popkornking

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But was the study non-biased? I don't mean to attack it's legitimacy but that was the main point of rhiaanor's comment. Just asking since (no offence) you're clearly quite biased on the topic.

#391 to #13 - occamsrazor

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Thank you for that, I'm dedicating this kief bowl I'm about to vape to you!

#361 to #13 - anon id: 979a1c33

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never ever gotten "retarded high" everyone who says it's the bomb or that you go extremely ****** on it - is a bunch of retard

Weed is waaaaaaay overhyped

#360 to #13 - anon id: de07d691

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"Minimally impairs or does not at all impair cognitive function."

I've hung around way too many stoners to believe that, mate. Studies are well and good, but their parameters and results can be slanted nine ways to Tuesday by whoever is conducting it. What I do know is what I have personally experienced, and it certainly does not line up with the above quote.

#328 to #13 - rainbowtacos

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Some people have found that while weed doesn't affect your cognitive functions, it does affect how your brain performs, and your brain requires a lot more work and is more active to do the same jobs.

#320 to #13 - gobnick

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indeed, the only harmful/semi-harmful effect of smoking weed is the paralyzing of the cilia in your lungs, little tiny "brushes", if you will, that help filter out and remove mucus in your lungs, and this is only temporary, although with chronic use they can become slightly impaired. however, those with certain kinds of asthma can find this beneficial, such as this guy right here, haven't had an asthma related incident since i started smoking, and i remember the summer before i started, during football practice my asthma would act up so bad i would almost black out, never had that problem in the past 2 years.
also, eating marijuana (whether you do so in cannabutter i'm not sure) can give you some essential oils, fats, and amino acids, as these are present in the bud (although it tastes like ****), it'll get you high and can help you stay slightly more healthy. (did you also know it can be used as what is predicted to be a viable bio-fuel? it produces more ethanol than corn when processed the right way, and the amount of crop grown to produce said bio-fuel would also filter out as much of the CO2 that it produces by being used)

#313 to #13 - tjflash

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I smoked weed for a little bit, but it ****** me up. Some people cannot handle drugs (me included) It gave me depersonalization, and derealization. I basically felt insane for awhile, and am still recovering. It's not common, but weed can really **** a kid up.

I still say legalize it for medicinal uses because I'm not a cunt.

#399 to #313 - anon id: 9564ee8b

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it's not for kids, you cunt!

#453 to #399 - tjflash

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I'm 18 douchenugget.

#309 to #13 - anon id: e6de91b7

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chronic use of marijuana also reduces blood flow to the brain because your cb1 receptors shut down

#325 to #309 - gobnick

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i see you read yahoo news...yeah, this was proven in laboratory mice. and in those tests they subjected the mice to such high levels it bordered on overdose (impossible for a human, not exactly improbable for something tiny like a mouse, which, by the way, is not naturally involved with cannabis, therefore its receptors are much smaller, not only because of its size). these mice only experienced brain inflammation because they pumped so much smoke into these mice that their receptors shut down, and the brain released natural bacteria/antigens/white blood cells (can't remember which) to try to kickstart those receptors. showing that a tiny animal subjected to amounts only a smoker that averages 5-8 hours worth a day gets, these tests are ********, and yahoo is not a reliable source.

#284 to #13 - ICEDgrunge

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www.abc.net.au/news/2008-06-04/study-strengthens-marijuana-brain-damage-case/2459244
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6923642.stm

I'm very close to indifferent on this entire subject, but here's some **** that seem to say otherwise.

#308 to #284 - itsuckedbeinganon

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"The study conducted at the University of Melbourne took MRI pictures of the brains of 15 men who had smoked more than five joints daily for more than 10 years."

If you do anything more than five times daily for 10 year it will of course effect you in one way or another.

#337 to #308 - ICEDgrunge

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Naturally. I don't see many potheads stopping any time soon, however. This generation will have those same kinds of people the next time that study would come around.

#342 to #337 - itsuckedbeinganon

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I actually believe that in ten years a lot more people will smoke than now. I'm not really sure if I'm against it or not

#327 to #308 - gobnick

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also, i call ******** on it damaging the emotional section of the brain. i have only cried at like, 4 movies while sober. being high makes any sad movie tear worthy (at least for me). if anything it heightens the ability of this section of the brain.

#331 to #327 - itsuckedbeinganon

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I agree. I think that the people who gets emotional trouble "from" weed had it lying in their subconcience all along. The weed simple brought it up at some point.

#333 to #331 - gobnick

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being high made me cry at V for Vendetta....i hope you might understand why....

#334 to #333 - itsuckedbeinganon

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I never saw it, or read it. I don't even know if it's a book or not.

#335 to #334 - gobnick

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good movie, great plot, although the story line is very close to that of the status of America in a lot of aspects...which is frightening. basically i would suggest watching it, but also warn you that it will make you lose some faith in society (though you browse funnyjunk, so i don't think it would be any more detrimental than a facebook post containing some stupid person that knows nothing)

#340 to #335 - itsuckedbeinganon

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I don't really know. Fight Club kind of ****** me over, twice. However I am not american, so I would probably just pretend everything is fine with my country's society, and that the US sucks.

#345 to #340 - gobnick

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we really do, did you know in the state i used to live in as well as the one i currently live in they've effectively banned abortion? all because "it's against the bible" or "god would cry" or "it kills babies!".....right, so you're going to let a minority, with no ties to government (or at least that's what it should be, as it ******* says in the bill of rights/ constitution 'separation of church and state'), dictate the freedoms of the majority? you're letting people who have no ties to this other than they don't like it, take away the opportunity for those that might need it, all to satisfy their twisted little message to tug at others heartstrings? these people stand outside of clinics and harass, berate, and sometimes even harm these girls, who are going in there to make the toughest decision of their lives, one that will scar them forever, and suddenly anyone who opposes them is an asshole....this is why i sometimes have fantasies of the mass murder of WBC members as well as these picketers....perhaps i should seek some help...

#353 to #345 - itsuckedbeinganon

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If that really are their reasons it's messed up, but there really are a couple of good reasons for banning abortion. I however think that banning anything at all is somewhat hypocritical (is that even a word?) when the US is supposed to be "the land of the free".

Don't seek help until you actually make the bomb or buy the gun. You can however teach me how to get that extremely small text

#354 to #353 - gobnick

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in the comment menu, there will be three f's in a row on the top bar, just click on the smallest one when you want to start using tiny text, or encase the words/sentence in [small] on each side

#358 to #354 - itsuckedbeinganon

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I am now enlightened Allthough it doesn't feel like this will be comfortable to read

#451 to #358 - gobnick

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i like using it for dr. cox jokes, psst, it makes his whispering parts all the better

#467 to #451 - itsuckedbeinganon

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I don't know what a dr. cox joke is. Why am I even on this site

#470 to #467 - gobnick

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(07/04/2013) [-]

ooh, fun for you, go on netflix and watch scrubs! (but not the newest stuff, it sucks, they got rid of so many characters and turned J.D. whinier than he already was....which seemed impossible)

#237 to #13 - marinepenguin

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I hear about stuff like that all the time, and there seems to be science behind it. But I have a grandmother who has worked with addictions and abuse for over 20 years. And we would have conversations about this. She thinks that marijuana is a horrible thing to get involved with, because in her personal experience she has met dozens of long time weed smokers. She has told me that in nearly all of them they:
1) Have terrible problems with memory
2) Their cognitive functions go completely out the window after about age 50
3) They form a psychological addiction and It takes over their life to the point to where weed and getting high is all they care about.
There are quite of few of those sort of people in my area, and as they get older it's extremely obvious who was involved in it. Short term problems may be very small, but in the long term its horrible.

#204 to #13 - vos

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First of, I'm on your side in that I believe in personal freedom of choice to smoke weed. But you claiming that research supports your argument is fairly meaningless unless you link your source.

Even if the source did check out, a single study can be constructed to prove anything you want. The Wakefield research on the MMR vaccine is a perfect example of a terrible study. Supporting research by no means show that your claims are true. What does add weight to your claims is multiple peer-reviewed papers of good scientific quality which support your argument. Try looking up systematic reviews on the Cochrane Library for the health effects of different forms of marijuana ingestion.

#126 to #13 - anon id: 82b08ac3

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I suggest you read this www.drugfreeworld.org/drugfacts/marijuana.html

#350 to #126 - icefried

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"As the typical user inhales more smoke and holds it longer than he would with a cigarette, a joint creates a severe impact on one’s lungs. Aside from the discomfort that goes with sore throats and chest colds, it has been found that consuming one joint gives as much exposure to cancer-producing chemicals as smoking five cigarettes."

Blatant ********.

#116 to #13 - Logicaltightrope

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It also effectively doubles your chances of getting schizophrenia. Yeah, it's still unlikely at about 1.4% probability on average, but it's more of a worry than non-stoners.

But, of course, marijuana is infinitely better than other drugs.

#84 to #13 - penguinthegreat

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there was a 1-2% difference in IQ between stoners and other people
i consider it insignificant

#58 to #13 - cough

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Tell me, what are/what were your grades in school.

#29 to #13 - therollingstones

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Blaze it faggit

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To be honest, what usually disturbs me about everyday smokers/users, is not the health issue, which probably is unexistent, but the sociollogical change, as some of them allow weed to take control of their life, basing their entire daily existence towards smoking weed, gaining new friends who smoke regularely, and usually leaving behind the ones that don't. Now i'm not saying everybody does that, but i've lost touch with a couple of good friends that way and it makes me a bit sad

But do feel free to roll a spliff once in a while, it's cool ****.

#77 to #24 - forbesydemon

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I agree with this. Add in chain smokers, alcoholics, gamblers, over eaters etc. The thing is, these people are mentally susceptible to addiction. If it wasn't weed it'd be something else. Most people that i know who have an addiction are addicted to other things too. Weed just has a huge negative reputation which is silly because there are much worse things that you can legally buy. I smoke every now and again but I too have seen people become introverted due to it, but others do the same from other addictions.

#119 to #77 - imofcnotharveydent

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I'm an over eater, I am not afraid of cannabis and drugs in general
but I'm very easily addicted to stuff, tried smoking couple of times,
no cough and I got my nicotine all right, but a few months later got this intense craving for a cig, out of nowhere, after that I've become quite strict of what I will ever be touching.

#27 to #24 - TheHutchie

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Well man, it's true what they say about it being a "gateway drug", but that only applies to certain people. There's always gonna be some idiots who let something that should be occasional recreation become a full-blown habit.

Alcoholics are essentially in the same boat.

I met some guys recently (didn't really care for them, but had to hang around with them for a while) who started out smoking weed occasionally and now spend every penny they have on all kinds of drugs, including ecstasy and cocaine.

I'm not badmouthing weed, to be honest I would try it if I had the chance. But seeing those goons waste everything they have chasing some narcotic pipe dream served as a good warning to me.

#352 to #27 - olicoooombs

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The only reason weed is a gateway drug is because people are told it is bad for you. People who smoke despite thinking it is bad are the ones who go on to harder drugs because they think that they've already damaged themselves.

#65 to #27 - elirex

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In my opinion the only thing weed is a gateway too is sketchy *************, me and my brother went to a dispensary to buy(we both have cards) and some guy in the parking lot offered us vikadin .

#14 to #13 - vanoreo

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>oregano is worse for you than marijuana

Yep, you are a stoner

#15 to #14 - XxMyNameIsChancexX

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Smoking oregano? It's just as bad. Never said worse. Its worse in the long run because oregano wont even get you high so its just pointless lung destruction.

Smoking Oregano is definitely worse for you than eating marijuana edibles. Or vaporizing your marijuanas.

#16 to #15 - vanoreo

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Except he'd just smoke the marijuana if he had it though

You're comparing completely different methods of doing drugs

Smoking oregano is better for you than smoking marijuana

not using a vapor or any of your futurestoner ****

#90 to #16 - penguinthegreat

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the point of the comment was that it is the same or maybe worse because something in oregano might be cancerous, and nothing in weed is actually bad for your body

#144 to #90 - vanoreo

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actually recent studies show that it ************ your motor system

#162 to #144 - penguinthegreat

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thats short term

#163 to #162 - vanoreo

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Still doesn't sound like a thing I want to do tho

#164 to #163 - penguinthegreat

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when u get properly stoned not being able to walk is the least of your worries

#166 to #164 - vanoreo

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Until you come down from the high and see reality

I use the internet and video games to distract myself from my problems, I don't need pot

#175 to #166 - penguinthegreat

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come down and see the reality? do you really think every stoner is a deadbeat?
my vision looks like its vibrating when im high, i wouldn't go anywhere even if i could walk

#176 to #175 - vanoreo

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No.

I just think there are better things to do than get high

#177 to #176 - penguinthegreat

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getting that high is probably a bad idea anyway
when you are moderately high you are perfectly capable to do everything you normally would

#178 to #177 - vanoreo

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No, I mean there are better things to do than to even get a little high

#190 to #178 - penguinthegreat

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do you have the same opinion on alcohol

#194 to #190 - vanoreo

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kinda sorta

a bit is okay but don't go overboard

inb4 you say some **** about alcohol being worse for you

Sure, but one is legal

#197 to #194 - penguinthegreat

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in reasonable amounts neither is bad for you
so why is weed illegal an alcohol is legal?

#200 to #197 - vanoreo

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I'm pro legalization

I just think that it's stupid

#79 to #16 - forbesydemon

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You do know you can eat oregano too? Has no negative effects as far as I'm aware. So talking about methods is perfectly reasonable seeing as this idiot was smoking something that's better for you when eaten.

#17 to #16 - XxMyNameIsChancexX

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How is smoking oregano any better than smoking weed? They're both natural herbs putting out just as much smoke, but one gets you high. There's no extra additives in weed that make the smoke more harmful, just like with oregano. So both will ruin your lungs the same but only one is actually worth it.

Oregano = Weed in terms of damage to lungs.

You're better off smoking weed than Oregano though. Cause whats the point of smoking an italian spice that has no intoxicating qualities?

#32 to #17 - konradkurze

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whats the point in smoking **** of any kind

#18 to #17 - vanoreo

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For lungs, they're both equally as bad

For overall, smoking is a stupid thing to do

#19 to #18 - XxMyNameIsChancexX

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But to each their own right man? It's not like not smokng will make you live forever. And if people wanna have fun with a recreational substance than who cares? But if people are going to they should do it the smart way, with a vaporizer, or brownie.

#20 to #19 - vanoreo

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frankly I'm pro pot because I don't like arguments like this

I really don't care if others do pot

I'm not going to

I just think it's stupid and unnecessary

I mean, why spend the extra money

#330 to #20 - gobnick

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"i don't really care if others do pot"
"yep, you are a stoner"
"i just think it's stupid and unnecessary"
"i mean, why spend the extra money"

sooooo....you don't care, but you do? saying you don't care about other people doing something generally means you don't go ahead and judge them right on the spot for it, or present arguments against it, especially when you also claim that you are "pro pot"....

#26 to #20 - anon id: 31e26eed

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Why do people drink? jeeseee

#50 to #26 - gorignax

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If it's not casual or social drinking, it is usually because they can't find enjoyment or pleasure in their normal life so they try to create an artificial method of pleasure. Both marijuana and alcohol cause problems in the human body. Alcohol can cause liver failure and brain damage, marijuana can cause cancer, brain damage and lethargicness. Unfortunately both subtances have huge amounts of misinformation present, some of which have been sited earlier on this message board. Half my family are doctors, I hear about this all the time.

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