420. Smoke Oregano every day Source: Tumblr. pizza = anoying tler - es a Patrick's: So my parents just found out about my fourteen year old brother smoking weed 420 Smoke Oregano every day Source: Tumblr pizza = anoying tler - es a Patrick's: So my parents just found out about fourteen year old brother smoking weed
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420. Smoke Oregano every day Source: Tumblr. pizza = anoying tler - es a Patrick's: So my parents just found out about my fourteen year old brother smoking weed

Smoke Oregano every day
Source: Tumblr

pizza = anoying tler -
es a
Patrick's:
So my parents just found out about my fourteen year old brother
smoking weed because they found this on his window ledge. So in
the middle of a huge lecture my dad decides to open the Baggie and
smell it to see how strong it is. He immediately starts crying with
laughter. THIS NIGGA HAS BEEN BUYING AND SMOKING FUCKING
OREGANO. FUCKIN ITALIAN HERBS. SON. I CAN' T. I CANNOT. I
CANT DO THIS.
This isn' t funny. That' s the gateway drug to a full blown marinara
addiction. It' s good this was caught before this kid started hanging out at
Olive Garden and sucking on every breadstick he can find to score
another hit.
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> hey anon, wanna give your opinion?
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#1 - masterfuck
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User avatar #10 - rhiaanor
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WHy the **** would you tell him, now he'll just find real stuff. Silly parents.
#11 to #10 - anon id: c3d55deb
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smoking oregano is probably worse for than you actual marijuana.
#288 to #11 - anon id: 7ea60431
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Probably not considering how it has no active chemical components. It would irritate your lungs like any other smoke but that's it.
User avatar #12 to #11 - rhiaanor
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It probably just gives your breath flavor or some ****. I doubt it would actually do anything bad. And also, you don't know that, marijuana could or could not be bad, there just hasn't been any non-biased large researches on the topic to prove anything.
#13 to #12 - XxMyNameIsChancexX
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Yes there have. Research indicates that in terms of cognitive function, marijuana either very minimally impairs it, doesn't at all, most of the time impairment only effects short term memory. In terms of physical health, the only thing about weed that could harm you is if you smoke it. So just having cannabis edibles, and getting retarded high off them is completely healthy. Even if you use a vaporizer, you're golden. Oregano just harms the **** out of our lungs.   
   
I can't remember the exact source of this study but i remember reading it, and they brought in a bunch of people, half stoners of all ages, genders, smoking history, and smoking habits. The other half being non stoners.   
   
Between the two groups there was slight, and unsignifigant, or no, change in cognitive function based on IQ tests and the like.   
   
   
   
This message brought to you by a stoner that knows his ****, and cares.
Yes there have. Research indicates that in terms of cognitive function, marijuana either very minimally impairs it, doesn't at all, most of the time impairment only effects short term memory. In terms of physical health, the only thing about weed that could harm you is if you smoke it. So just having cannabis edibles, and getting retarded high off them is completely healthy. Even if you use a vaporizer, you're golden. Oregano just harms the **** out of our lungs.

I can't remember the exact source of this study but i remember reading it, and they brought in a bunch of people, half stoners of all ages, genders, smoking history, and smoking habits. The other half being non stoners.

Between the two groups there was slight, and unsignifigant, or no, change in cognitive function based on IQ tests and the like.



This message brought to you by a stoner that knows his ****, and cares.
#29 to #13 - therollingstones
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Blaze it faggit
Blaze it faggit
User avatar #320 to #13 - gobnick
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indeed, the only harmful/semi-harmful effect of smoking weed is the paralyzing of the cilia in your lungs, little tiny "brushes", if you will, that help filter out and remove mucus in your lungs, and this is only temporary, although with chronic use they can become slightly impaired. however, those with certain kinds of asthma can find this beneficial, such as this guy right here, haven't had an asthma related incident since i started smoking, and i remember the summer before i started, during football practice my asthma would act up so bad i would almost black out, never had that problem in the past 2 years.
also, eating marijuana (whether you do so in cannabutter i'm not sure) can give you some essential oils, fats, and amino acids, as these are present in the bud (although it tastes like ****), it'll get you high and can help you stay slightly more healthy. (did you also know it can be used as what is predicted to be a viable bio-fuel? it produces more ethanol than corn when processed the right way, and the amount of crop grown to produce said bio-fuel would also filter out as much of the CO2 that it produces by being used)
User avatar #398 to #13 - popkornking
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But was the study non-biased? I don't mean to attack it's legitimacy but that was the main point of rhiaanor's comment. Just asking since (no offence) you're clearly quite biased on the topic.
User avatar #391 to #13 - occamsrazor
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Thank you for that, I'm dedicating this kief bowl I'm about to vape to you!
#361 to #13 - anon id: 979a1c33
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never ever gotten "retarded high" everyone who says it's the bomb or that you go extremely ****** on it - is a bunch of retard

Weed is waaaaaaay overhyped
#360 to #13 - anon id: de07d691
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"Minimally impairs or does not at all impair cognitive function."

I've hung around way too many stoners to believe that, mate. Studies are well and good, but their parameters and results can be slanted nine ways to Tuesday by whoever is conducting it. What I do know is what I have personally experienced, and it certainly does not line up with the above quote.
User avatar #328 to #13 - rainbowtacos
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Some people have found that while weed doesn't affect your cognitive functions, it does affect how your brain performs, and your brain requires a lot more work and is more active to do the same jobs.
User avatar #313 to #13 - tjflash
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I smoked weed for a little bit, but it ****** me up. Some people cannot handle drugs (me included) It gave me depersonalization, and derealization. I basically felt insane for awhile, and am still recovering. It's not common, but weed can really **** a kid up.

I still say legalize it for medicinal uses because I'm not a cunt.
#399 to #313 - anon id: 9564ee8b
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it's not for kids, you cunt!
User avatar #453 to #399 - tjflash
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I'm 18 douchenugget.
#309 to #13 - anon id: e6de91b7
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chronic use of marijuana also reduces blood flow to the brain because your cb1 receptors shut down
User avatar #325 to #309 - gobnick
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i see you read yahoo news...yeah, this was proven in laboratory mice. and in those tests they subjected the mice to such high levels it bordered on overdose (impossible for a human, not exactly improbable for something tiny like a mouse, which, by the way, is not naturally involved with cannabis, therefore its receptors are much smaller, not only because of its size). these mice only experienced brain inflammation because they pumped so much smoke into these mice that their receptors shut down, and the brain released natural bacteria/antigens/white blood cells (can't remember which) to try to kickstart those receptors. showing that a tiny animal subjected to amounts only a smoker that averages 5-8 hours worth a day gets, these tests are ********, and yahoo is not a reliable source.
User avatar #284 to #13 - ICEDgrunge
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www.abc.net.au/news/2008-06-04/study-strengthens-marijuana-brain-damage-case/2459244
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6923642.stm

I'm very close to indifferent on this entire subject, but here's some **** that seem to say otherwise.
#308 to #284 - itsuckedbeinganon
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"The study conducted at the University of Melbourne took MRI pictures of the brains of 15 men who had smoked more than five joints daily for more than 10 years."

If you do anything more than five times daily for 10 year it will of course effect you in one way or another.
User avatar #337 to #308 - ICEDgrunge
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Naturally. I don't see many potheads stopping any time soon, however. This generation will have those same kinds of people the next time that study would come around.
#342 to #337 - itsuckedbeinganon
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I actually believe that in ten years a lot more people will smoke than now. I'm not really sure if I'm against it or not
User avatar #327 to #308 - gobnick
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also, i call ******** on it damaging the emotional section of the brain. i have only cried at like, 4 movies while sober. being high makes any sad movie tear worthy (at least for me). if anything it heightens the ability of this section of the brain.
#331 to #327 - itsuckedbeinganon
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I agree. I think that the people who gets emotional trouble "from" weed had it lying in their subconcience all along. The weed simple brought it up at some point.
User avatar #333 to #331 - gobnick
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being high made me cry at V for Vendetta....i hope you might understand why....
#334 to #333 - itsuckedbeinganon
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I never saw it, or read it. I don't even know if it's a book or not.
User avatar #335 to #334 - gobnick
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good movie, great plot, although the story line is very close to that of the status of America in a lot of aspects...which is frightening. basically i would suggest watching it, but also warn you that it will make you lose some faith in society (though you browse funnyjunk, so i don't think it would be any more detrimental than a facebook post containing some stupid person that knows nothing)
#340 to #335 - itsuckedbeinganon
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I don't really know. Fight Club kind of ****** me over, twice. However I am not american, so I would probably just pretend everything is fine with my country's society, and that the US sucks.
User avatar #345 to #340 - gobnick
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we really do, did you know in the state i used to live in as well as the one i currently live in they've effectively banned abortion? all because "it's against the bible" or "god would cry" or "it kills babies!".....right, so you're going to let a minority, with no ties to government (or at least that's what it should be, as it ******* says in the bill of rights/ constitution 'separation of church and state'), dictate the freedoms of the majority? you're letting people who have no ties to this other than they don't like it, take away the opportunity for those that might need it, all to satisfy their twisted little message to tug at others heartstrings? these people stand outside of clinics and harass, berate, and sometimes even harm these girls, who are going in there to make the toughest decision of their lives, one that will scar them forever, and suddenly anyone who opposes them is an asshole....this is why i sometimes have fantasies of the mass murder of WBC members as well as these picketers....perhaps i should seek some help...
#353 to #345 - itsuckedbeinganon
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If that really are their reasons it's messed up, but there really are a couple of good reasons for banning abortion. I however think that banning anything at all is somewhat hypocritical (is that even a word?) when the US is supposed to be "the land of the free".

Don't seek help until you actually make the bomb or buy the gun. You can however teach me how to get that extremely small text
User avatar #354 to #353 - gobnick
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in the comment menu, there will be three f's in a row on the top bar, just click on the smallest one when you want to start using tiny text, or encase the words/sentence in [small] on each side
#358 to #354 - itsuckedbeinganon
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I am now enlightened Allthough it doesn't feel like this will be comfortable to read
User avatar #451 to #358 - gobnick
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i like using it for dr. cox jokes, psst, it makes his whispering parts all the better
#467 to #451 - itsuckedbeinganon
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I don't know what a dr. cox joke is. Why am I even on this site
User avatar #470 to #467 - gobnick
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ooh, fun for you, go on netflix and watch scrubs! (but not the newest stuff, it sucks, they got rid of so many characters and turned J.D. whinier than he already was....which seemed impossible)
User avatar #237 to #13 - marinepenguin
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I hear about stuff like that all the time, and there seems to be science behind it. But I have a grandmother who has worked with addictions and abuse for over 20 years. And we would have conversations about this. She thinks that marijuana is a horrible thing to get involved with, because in her personal experience she has met dozens of long time weed smokers. She has told me that in nearly all of them they:
1) Have terrible problems with memory
2) Their cognitive functions go completely out the window after about age 50
3) They form a psychological addiction and It takes over their life to the point to where weed and getting high is all they care about.
There are quite of few of those sort of people in my area, and as they get older it's extremely obvious who was involved in it. Short term problems may be very small, but in the long term its horrible.
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#350 to #126 - icefried
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"As the typical user inhales more smoke and holds it longer than he would with a cigarette, a joint creates a severe impact on one’s lungs. Aside from the discomfort that goes with sore throats and chest colds, it has been found that consuming one joint gives as much exposure to cancer-producing chemicals as smoking five cigarettes."

Blatant ********.
#58 to #13 - cough
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Tell me, what are/what were your grades in school.
#24 to #13 - anon id: 86ae35a4
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To be honest, what usually disturbs me about everyday smokers/users, is not the health issue, which probably is unexistent, but the sociollogical change, as some of them allow weed to take control of their life, basing their entire daily existence towards smoking weed, gaining new friends who smoke regularely, and usually leaving behind the ones that don't. Now i'm not saying everybody does that, but i've lost touch with a couple of good friends that way and it makes me a bit sad

But do feel free to roll a spliff once in a while, it's cool ****.
User avatar #27 to #24 - TheHutchie
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Well man, it's true what they say about it being a "gateway drug", but that only applies to certain people. There's always gonna be some idiots who let something that should be occasional recreation become a full-blown habit.

Alcoholics are essentially in the same boat.

I met some guys recently (didn't really care for them, but had to hang around with them for a while) who started out smoking weed occasionally and now spend every penny they have on all kinds of drugs, including ecstasy and cocaine.

I'm not badmouthing weed, to be honest I would try it if I had the chance. But seeing those goons waste everything they have chasing some narcotic pipe dream served as a good warning to me.
#352 to #27 - olicoooombs
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The only reason weed is a gateway drug is because people are told it is bad for you. People who smoke despite thinking it is bad are the ones who go on to harder drugs because they think that they've already damaged themselves.
User avatar #65 to #27 - elirex
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In my opinion the only thing weed is a gateway too is sketchy *************, me and my brother went to a dispensary to buy(we both have cards) and some guy in the parking lot offered us vikadin .
User avatar #77 to #24 - forbesydemon
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I agree with this. Add in chain smokers, alcoholics, gamblers, over eaters etc. The thing is, these people are mentally susceptible to addiction. If it wasn't weed it'd be something else. Most people that i know who have an addiction are addicted to other things too. Weed just has a huge negative reputation which is silly because there are much worse things that you can legally buy. I smoke every now and again but I too have seen people become introverted due to it, but others do the same from other addictions.
User avatar #119 to #77 - imofcnotharveydent
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I'm an over eater, I am not afraid of cannabis and drugs in general
but I'm very easily addicted to stuff, tried smoking couple of times,
no cough and I got my nicotine all right, but a few months later got this intense craving for a cig, out of nowhere, after that I've become quite strict of what I will ever be touching.
User avatar #204 to #13 - vos
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First of, I'm on your side in that I believe in personal freedom of choice to smoke weed. But you claiming that research supports your argument is fairly meaningless unless you link your source.

Even if the source did check out, a single study can be constructed to prove anything you want. The Wakefield research on the MMR vaccine is a perfect example of a terrible study. Supporting research by no means show that your claims are true. What does add weight to your claims is multiple peer-reviewed papers of good scientific quality which support your argument. Try looking up systematic reviews on the Cochrane Library for the health effects of different forms of marijuana ingestion.
User avatar #116 to #13 - Logicaltightrope
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It also effectively doubles your chances of getting schizophrenia. Yeah, it's still unlikely at about 1.4% probability on average, but it's more of a worry than non-stoners.

But, of course, marijuana is infinitely better than other drugs.
#84 to #13 - penguinthegreat
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there was a 1-2% difference in IQ between stoners and other people
i consider it insignificant
User avatar #14 to #13 - vanoreo
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>oregano is worse for you than marijuana

Yep, you are a stoner
User avatar #15 to #14 - XxMyNameIsChancexX
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Smoking oregano? It's just as bad. Never said worse. Its worse in the long run because oregano wont even get you high so its just pointless lung destruction.

Smoking Oregano is definitely worse for you than eating marijuana edibles. Or vaporizing your marijuanas.
User avatar #16 to #15 - vanoreo
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Except he'd just smoke the marijuana if he had it though

You're comparing completely different methods of doing drugs

Smoking oregano is better for you than smoking marijuana

not using a vapor or any of your futurestoner ****
User avatar #17 to #16 - XxMyNameIsChancexX
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How is smoking oregano any better than smoking weed? They're both natural herbs putting out just as much smoke, but one gets you high. There's no extra additives in weed that make the smoke more harmful, just like with oregano. So both will ruin your lungs the same but only one is actually worth it.

Oregano = Weed in terms of damage to lungs.

You're better off smoking weed than Oregano though. Cause whats the point of smoking an italian spice that has no intoxicating qualities?
User avatar #32 to #17 - konradkurze
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whats the point in smoking **** of any kind
User avatar #18 to #17 - vanoreo
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For lungs, they're both equally as bad

For overall, smoking is a stupid thing to do
User avatar #19 to #18 - XxMyNameIsChancexX
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But to each their own right man? It's not like not smokng will make you live forever. And if people wanna have fun with a recreational substance than who cares? But if people are going to they should do it the smart way, with a vaporizer, or brownie.
User avatar #20 to #19 - vanoreo
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frankly I'm pro pot because I don't like arguments like this

I really don't care if others do pot

I'm not going to

I just think it's stupid and unnecessary

I mean, why spend the extra money
User avatar #330 to #20 - gobnick
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"i don't really care if others do pot"
"yep, you are a stoner"
"i just think it's stupid and unnecessary"
"i mean, why spend the extra money"

sooooo....you don't care, but you do? saying you don't care about other people doing something generally means you don't go ahead and judge them right on the spot for it, or present arguments against it, especially when you also claim that you are "pro pot"....
#26 to #20 - anon id: 31e26eed
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Why do people drink? jeeseee

#50 to #26 - gorignax
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If it's not casual or social drinking, it is usually because they can't find enjoyment or pleasure in their normal life so they try to create an artificial method of pleasure. Both marijuana and alcohol cause problems in the human body. Alcohol can cause liver failure and brain damage, marijuana can cause cancer, brain damage and lethargicness. Unfortunately both subtances have huge amounts of misinformation present, some of which have been sited earlier on this message board. Half my family are doctors, I hear about this all the time.
User avatar #79 to #16 - forbesydemon
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You do know you can eat oregano too? Has no negative effects as far as I'm aware. So talking about methods is perfectly reasonable seeing as this idiot was smoking something that's better for you when eaten.
#90 to #16 - penguinthegreat
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the point of the comment was that it is the same or maybe worse because something in oregano might be cancerous, and nothing in weed is actually bad for your body
User avatar #144 to #90 - vanoreo
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actually recent studies show that it ************ your motor system
#162 to #144 - penguinthegreat
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thats short term
User avatar #163 to #162 - vanoreo
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Still doesn't sound like a thing I want to do tho
#164 to #163 - penguinthegreat
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when u get properly stoned not being able to walk is the least of your worries
User avatar #166 to #164 - vanoreo
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Until you come down from the high and see reality

I use the internet and video games to distract myself from my problems, I don't need pot
#175 to #166 - penguinthegreat
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come down and see the reality? do you really think every stoner is a deadbeat?
my vision looks like its vibrating when im high, i wouldn't go anywhere even if i could walk
User avatar #176 to #175 - vanoreo
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No.

I just think there are better things to do than get high
#177 to #176 - penguinthegreat
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getting that high is probably a bad idea anyway
when you are moderately high you are perfectly capable to do everything you normally would
User avatar #178 to #177 - vanoreo
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No, I mean there are better things to do than to even get a little high
#190 to #178 - penguinthegreat
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do you have the same opinion on alcohol
User avatar #194 to #190 - vanoreo
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kinda sorta

a bit is okay but don't go overboard

inb4 you say some **** about alcohol being worse for you

Sure, but one is legal
#197 to #194 - penguinthegreat
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in reasonable amounts neither is bad for you
so why is weed illegal an alcohol is legal?
User avatar #200 to #197 - vanoreo
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I'm pro legalization

I just think that it's stupid
#364 to #10 - anon id: 4f5a927e
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What I've read is that it affects memory and some cognitive abilities WHILE you're stoned, but there are NO measurable long term effects.
#239 - nortledrones
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Make Marijuana legal, make cigarettes illegal, make gay marriage legal, all at the same time without warning. Sit back and watch the show.
User avatar #381 to #239 - fyaq
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you are satan

if the government suddenly outlaws my cigarettes i will ******* track you down and roll you in paper, set your head on fire, and smoke the **** out of you
#392 to #239 - swagbot
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........it..... wouldn't be that incredible.

That's fifth-grade-level thinking.
#245 to #239 - anon id: 2962a76e
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cigarettes are legal you stupid ******* dumbass.
#246 to #245 - nortledrones
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That's the point you filthy casual.
#252 to #245 - anon id: f03e9739
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said make cigarettes ILLEGAL you illiterate piece of ****
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lol I'm the illiterate one? go back an check your post you stupid ******* ********. "hurrr durrr let me reach into my le reaction folder to follow up with a le sarcarstic picture!"
User avatar #273 to #266 - fonzythekid
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>go back an check your post you stupid ******* ********.
*checks post*
"...make cigarettes illegal,"


...so what's your point anon?
#293 to #266 - AvatarAirBender
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I have never seen stupid of this caliber.
I have never seen stupid of this caliber.
#298 to #266 - mynameiskeanu
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#402 to #266 - chrislee
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User avatar #311 to #266 - rsoxtom
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its funny cause he can't even try to insult without being anonymous
#387 to #266 - anon id: dcff96f7
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Im an anon, and I probably can type better than this piece of ****.
User avatar #348 to #266 - cocoman
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only if this guy was logged in
all my rage
User avatar #301 to #239 - sparkyoneonetwo
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This would be fantastic
#8 - daggry
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Well we figured out that tumblrs inherit the "I CANNOT" gene from their parents
#130 - imofcnotharveydent
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Weed is like video games;   
- They are harmless for most people, but all the negative gets attention   
- 13 Y. O. think they are cool with it, but in general just in general deserve to be fisted with a cactus and set on fire.   
- and obnoxious people for their cause (regarded as Stoners & Hardcore Gamers) voices will never be heard because you usually are complete dicks.   
   
mfw op's post/repost
Weed is like video games;
- They are harmless for most people, but all the negative gets attention
- 13 Y. O. think they are cool with it, but in general just in general deserve to be fisted with a cactus and set on fire.
- and obnoxious people for their cause (regarded as Stoners & Hardcore Gamers) voices will never be heard because you usually are complete dicks.

mfw op's post/repost
User avatar #142 to #130 - MaxFabian
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This is perfect actually
User avatar #153 to #142 - imofcnotharveydent
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thank you!
#256 - killerblue
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I once snorted 4 weeds, now I'm a sloth
#356 to #256 - raheemshibaz
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i only snorted 2, and i'm a cat general.
#33 - konradkurze
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whats the point in smoking anything

tobacco, weed, ...******* oregano..
why use natural substances in UNnatural ways
#34 to #33 - selfrazedzealot
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you've never been high... being high on funnyjunk makes your comment almost funny... being high on funnyjunk with someone else makes anything funny... then after that 10-30 minutes of uncontrollable laughter (what more could you ask for) its just relaxing until you come down...
User avatar #37 to #34 - konradkurze
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never seen any point in using drugs

not injured so dont need pain relief
not a sad case so dont need artificial methods to be happy
have a life so dont need to be buzzed for the sake of it
#67 to #37 - rageborn
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>Has life
>gets in internet argument about drugs
Pick one.
User avatar #72 to #67 - konradkurze
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i didnt start the argument, i merely asked whats the point in performing an unnatural act, and suddenly the stoners spring up to create a pro-weed argument
#76 to #72 - rageborn
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Whats the point of playing video games if they aren't found in the wild?
User avatar #83 to #76 - konradkurze
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whats the point of joints, pipes, or bongs if they arent found in the wild
#87 to #83 - rageborn
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Its a way to have fun. no more no less.
User avatar #93 to #83 - konradkurze
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well fun is up to perspective
some people have fun hunting and shooting wild animals in the head
some people have fun beating the **** out of each other in fight clubs

there are plenty of methods of 'fun' that others would frown at, weed is on that list
User avatar #160 to #93 - metaljunkies
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by your logic though, anything that anyone says is fun could be determined by others, to be bad
#154 to #37 - anon id: 920b80f9
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I'm not injured, I'm not sad, I have a life with friends, smoking weed its just a fun thing to do. Just like playing games and watching movies.
User avatar #434 to #154 - konradkurze
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so sitting around, talking foolish things, and laughing at most anything, is fun

one can use the argument 'small things amuse small minds'
#43 to #37 - anon id: 920b80f9
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Did you know that marijuana is safer to use more than alcohol?
User avatar #45 to #43 - konradkurze
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yes i know,
one can say that alcohol makes people do stupid ****, while weed just makes people sit around and laugh at stupid ****

i dont really see a point in either....if you NEED either to fill in at certain situations you were pretty lost to begin with
getting drunk or stoned to enjoy life means your life sucked to begin with, and you need a temporary helper to enjoy it......geting drunk or stoned to 'handle' life means your life is pretty ****** and you use to hide from it.....and it goes on
#57 to #45 - pedobearseviltwin
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My life isn't ****, I don't smoke alone, I rarely do smoke actually.
Some people just want to relax a bit with friends. You are not to judge how someone else chooses to pass their free time or money are you? You make it sound as if any occasional drug or alcohol user is a lost case. Just loosen up a bit. I'm not saying you should try drugs, but don't judge people who do.
User avatar #66 to #57 - konradkurze
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well comes back to the point
if you cant relax using natural methods, then your life is poor,

if you NEED a substance to alter your perception of life, then youre admitting you dislike your life

i used to drink frequently with friends, but then i saw the futility in it, im capable of chilling out with friends sober, i dont need to take a substance to enjoy life and friends.....and its kind of an insult to yourself and your friends if you need to take stuff to enjoy them and yourself
User avatar #78 to #66 - redblackstar
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Well... it seems to me that you're the one that can't relax... now take off your clothes and step away from that unnatural contraption you're sitting in front of, your fingers are not naturally adapted to using keyboards and technology is not natural.

btw. its not like primitive peoples didnt have alcohol and other drugs, even before the civilisation fully kicked off. some researches use the date when first beer was made in Egypt as the beginning date of our civilisation...
User avatar #91 to #78 - konradkurze
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yes egypt, where the eqgyptians were hedonistic and enjoyed substances to feel the experiences, and the slaves used when they could to mentally escape how **** their lives were

hey wow, the egyptian empire really lasted didnt it
User avatar #109 to #91 - redblackstar
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well it lasted for about 2 thousand years, before it was conquered by persians (who smoked cannabis and threw parties before taking any important decisions), and later by romans (who had many festivities involving drinking, as did their contemporary barbarians and pretty much every culture with access to something that can be fermented)
User avatar #113 to #109 - konradkurze
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and also, there are no more persian or roman empires....

kind of suggests that decadent hedonistic empires fall apart
do you really want to contribute to the current major powers to falling apart?
User avatar #136 to #113 - redblackstar
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how many empires, communities, groups of people do you know that have survived for more than 2 thousands years without drinking, smoking etc? every empire has its rise and fall and it just so happens that pretty much every community has their "alcohol" or their "weed". Even freakin buddhists and christians and other religious groups.
Hell, in the 30s USA tried to abolish alcohol and the country nearly collapsed in chaos... People smoked/drank, smoke/drink and will smoke and drink, because who the **** are you to tell them not to.
User avatar #435 to #136 - konradkurze
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read a book

prohibition didnt hurt the people, in those days it was the fact usa had overfarmed the land and had huge dustbowls spreading **** all over the country that caused chaos

say today, even with drugs and alcohol to keep them 'happy' i think most people would be in chaos if ********* of dust was blowing in from 3 states away
User avatar #70 to #66 - pedobearseviltwin
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Nope, I can enjoy myself fine without. It just adds to the experience...You mean your lifed used to be **** because you used to drink regularly? I have the best friends anyone can imagine and I don't NEED it, its MY OWN CHOICE, learn the difference. So when your friends go to the pub you just drink a coke? Thats fine by me and everyone else, but at least accept that other people have other choices and that that doesn't mean your life is ****. If you can't understand that you're just someone you can't argue with. kkthxbye
User avatar #80 to #70 - konradkurze
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i understand people have their own freedom of choice, for good or for bad, and people have their own freedom of choice to make personal opinions about others choices

you 'needing' weed to add to your enjoyment of things, admits you dont actually enjoy things as you should so you require weed to push your brain to enjoy them, while other people can enjoy those same things clean, why cant you
User avatar #89 to #80 - pedobearseviltwin
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as i just said, I don't need it, and i rarely actually do it, but for me its just something you don't do everyday. I usually enjoy it because i'm around with friends. My friends make me happy, with weed or without. Thats why I said I don't smoke alone, because friends are the thing that make the experience more enjoyable in general.
User avatar #103 to #89 - konradkurze
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so you and your friends only occasionally insult each other by using weed to enjoy the company?

and on another angle.....its sad youve become hooked to decadent sensations,

here, have a theme song
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WANNqr-vcx0
#195 to #103 - ktkthegreat
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That is such a ridiculous remark. No, they enjoy each others company and smoking weed >adds< to the enjoyment.

Also why is smoking weed decadent when it has been around for ages, like other mind altering drugs including alcohol. Is it because you and a group of people dislike it? Then what about the group of people that do enjoy it, does their opinion just not count because they are "hooked" on said things. Bias on both sides tbh.
User avatar #425 to #195 - konradkurze
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well partaking of a mind-altering substance simply to unnaturally obtain sensations, is a form of decadence, its simple self-rewarding
#456 to #425 - ktkthegreat
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So you mean that partaking of any mind-altering drugs is decadence, for example alcohol? If that is your opinion then I can just respectfully disagree.
User avatar #459 to #456 - konradkurze
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and you have your right to disagree....
others have the right to disagree with your choice

given current day majority ideals, drugs are looked upon in a negative light, but the way persons like yourself and others go, some day they may have majority support and society will change to accept them
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#193 to #45 - blackbirdzz
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Did you know that marijuana is safer to smoke than alcohol?
User avatar #428 to #193 - konradkurze
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bleat bleat, stoner argument, alcohol is bad mmmmkay

yes alcohol is more harmful, i wouldnt recommend either
#147 to #45 - anon id: 920b80f9
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I have never gotten high, but I suspect many people get high on marijuana because its fun, and even more fun while doing it with friends. Its just like playing a video game, its an activity, however you act like a soccer mom so of course you will find a problem with it.
User avatar #88 to #33 - randomserb
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Tobacco has no point, but weed is an anti-depressant. That serves a practical purpose.
Other than that, drugs have been a means to achieve altered views on reality since time immemorial.
User avatar #97 to #88 - konradkurze
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altered states of perception are unnatural.....so why....

bananas contain potassium which is an anti-depressant...and better and tastier than weed
you want a marijuana spilt with sprinkles?
User avatar #110 to #97 - randomserb
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You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. All this ******** about everything brought up against you being unnatural isn't substantial whatsoever. Your computer isn't natural, does that make it automatically bad?
Mysticism has been around since the dawn of man, ergo it's a pretty primitive human abstraction. One of its properties is this altered view on reality. Think of Siberian shamanism as an example.
The potassium in bananas does not suffice. If it did, people in pain would just buy bananas and eat those. There's a reason marijuana is prescribed as a medicine.
User avatar #112 to #110 - konradkurze
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yes, a MEDICINE, not everyone is sick or injured,

why is it, if a fit and healthy person takes pills because they can, thats a bad thing, but a fit and healthy person smoking weed because they can, is good?
User avatar #114 to #112 - randomserb
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Because pills serve no purpose outside of healing.
User avatar #120 to #114 - konradkurze
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well weed serves no real purpose
people talk to imaginary friends all the time, its called mainstream religion, they dont need tribal shamanism to speak with spirits, churches provide a spiritual superman with a jewish zombie son called jesus

kinda odd how a religion for clean and sober people has a storyline one would think was written by someone high as a ************ when he picked up the quill

plus to the point again, if youre not sick or hurt, why would you need weed
medicine only applies if you need it to heal, othewise its an abusive drug
User avatar #131 to #120 - randomserb
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Let's that you entirely missed the point I was trying to make about mysticism and that you proved your puerility by insulting Christianity for no reason.
I have already, apparently without success, explained that drugs are the poor man's mysticism. They serve another purpose, entertainment. People smoke weed for the same reason they watch TV or play video games or whatever. Some pasttimes are hazardous to the health in much the same way as weed. Spending hours on the internet is harmful to the eyes, for example. People who smoke weed to entertain themselves choose to live with the consequences, just like you choose to live with bad eyesight.
User avatar #132 to #131 - randomserb
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Somehow managed to leave out ignore after let's. Hue.
User avatar #436 to #131 - konradkurze
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yes but the internet does have more purposes than just entertainment

given i dont know everything about the strains of weed, but i dont think theres one that can help a person learn any topic or answer any question
if there was a type of learning weed, then ****, we'd have a planet of einsteins....that would be acceptable weed
#151 to #33 - anon id: 3ecda053
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how is fire and smoke unnatural? the world was born in flames
User avatar #461 to #151 - konradkurze
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you act like god was burning the world in a pipe and hitting that ****
#168 to #33 - anon id: e20d028d
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Go ask the US presidents, those ******* used to do it.
User avatar #444 to #168 - konradkurze
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yeah and the presidents are part of the new world order and generally all-round corrupt bastards

not exactly winning role models
#174 to #33 - jrondeau **User deleted account**
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The point is to get high, which to many people can be quite an enjoyable experience.   
   
And whether or not something's &quot;natural&quot; doesn't tend to matter anymore. Where would we be if not for man's ability to harness nature for our own personal benefit? I think we're quite a bit better off now than before we developed agriculture.   
   
If you're gonna hate on people who smoke, the artificiality of the practice can't exactly be used as a counterpoint because nearly everything we do is artificial.
The point is to get high, which to many people can be quite an enjoyable experience.

And whether or not something's "natural" doesn't tend to matter anymore. Where would we be if not for man's ability to harness nature for our own personal benefit? I think we're quite a bit better off now than before we developed agriculture.

If you're gonna hate on people who smoke, the artificiality of the practice can't exactly be used as a counterpoint because nearly everything we do is artificial.
User avatar #442 to #174 - konradkurze
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yes, so much better to exploit every possible resource for self benefit....its so great when everyones an arrogant ************ thinking of just themselves and fights over who gets priority on the sources of self indulgence
User avatar #468 to #442 - jrondeau **User deleted account**
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I fail to see how that relates to the point I just made. I'm just telling you that the fact that smoking something is artificial doesn't make it bad because most things we do are "unnatural."
User avatar #472 to #468 - konradkurze
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well your logic is "**** common sense, if we do some artificial things we may as well do EVERY artificial thing"

never stop to consider things we currently do or could do, but shouldnt do at all
User avatar #495 to #472 - jrondeau **User deleted account**
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And to clarify so that you don't take this out of context again, I never said to do "EVERY artificial thing." That's not implied anywhere in my argument. I'm just telling you that your logic is completely flawed.
User avatar #497 to #495 - konradkurze
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well humans do enough artificial things they could find other more realistic means to do.....drugs only serve a purpose as an artificial means to get states of being people could get if they did real activities

want a happy buzz...watch a comedy or get some exercise and love the endorphins your own body makes naturally....want to chill out listen to peaceful music or meditate and love the alpha waves......need stress relief...get laid or go to a gym and workout till youre too tired to fuss
User avatar #499 to #497 - jrondeau **User deleted account**
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So artificial means of enjoyment are only okay so long as you personally agree to them first? Great logic.

And want to make all of those far better than they would be normally? Smoke some weed, then watch comedy and laugh your ass off, listen to some good music and enjoy every damn second of it, get laid and love how everything feels so much better than normal, et cetera. You'll enjoy it way more than you would whilst sober, thereby releasing more endorphins. I assure you that by the end of a day like that you'll be so tired and happy that you'll be unable to get even slightly mad at anything and probably just pass out the second you hit your bed.
User avatar #500 to #499 - konradkurze
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yep, and since weed affects the memory...forget half or more of what you did.....

stoners laugh their ass off at pretty much anything, one doesnt need to be actual comedy.....get laid to a girl enough of a loser to screw stoners...enjoy everything more....like how stoners eat chips and almost have an orgasm "omfg these chips are so ******* good"......nd sleeping most of the day like a lazy mofo is so productive right?
User avatar #501 to #500 - jrondeau **User deleted account**
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So someone's a loser just because they so much as associate with stoners? If that's your line of reasoning then I doubt you'll go very far in life?

Am I a loser then? I smoke the stuff infrequently because I like to get high once in a while, I attend college and am pursuing a Physics & Mathematics Degree, came into college with 22 credits already just from high school, have a 3.6 GPA after my first year, and made Dean's list my second semester. I'm also making a decent paycheck with my summer job and would say I'm pretty satisfied with where I'm at in life, yet I'm still working my ass off and trying to teach myself the basics of mechanical engineering in my spare time. I'm also a member of my college's soccer team. Is all this for naught just because I enjoy weed on occasion?
User avatar #502 to #501 - konradkurze
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there you go, spinning words

one isnt a loser for associating with stoners, but getting into relationships with them?
ive seen too many people get into that and get stuck in dead ends helping them out with money, food etc
before you rage, i say stoners....you dont live to get high so yorue just a potsmoker....you dont get stoned all the time like stoners do, hence why youre doing better than they are
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And I know people who are complete and utter stoners, yet they do as well as I do and are some of the smartest people I've come across at college in some instances. I've also seen plenty of idiot pot smokers who don't really do anything with their lives. If one was to see this sort of thing with an open mind, I believe that they should come to the conclusion that it's not the drug, it's the person. A lot of people are just lazy *****. Some are hard workers. Whether they smoke pot or not isn't going to affect their drive to succeed unless they get pulled down by other influences.

And bro you've been spinning my words around or at the very least not interpreting them properly for just about this whole argument so don't give me that.
User avatar #504 to #503 - konradkurze
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well yes there is that other angle of 'the person' but by majority, since alot of places in western countries support the concept of being lazy *******...especially in the areas where welfare is easy to get and stay on, most stoners sit back and **** around their whole lives

mostly its in areas where local ideals are driven towards things, like ome places have a localized culture of intellectuals or workers and they get raised to keep up those traditions, but at the same time use weed hard to relax them as they go

take a look at the numbers of stoners you know, how many succeed compared to those who fail
User avatar #505 to #504 - jrondeau **User deleted account**
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But how many of those failures come from a background where it's okay to sit on your ass and get high and never accomplish anything?

The weed doesn't make them failures, their lifestyles and their decisions do. Just because someone gets high often doesn't automatically make them a failure, their inability to get their lives on track does. If you think that just because someone is a stoner they're automatically a failure, you need to do a good bit of rethinking before you join the real world.
User avatar #506 to #505 - konradkurze
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well, its a case of too many people start young and get into a routine of being relaxed and ******* lazy before they even know what they want to strive for in life, so by the time they get a clue what they want theyre already too far gone to try

most of these successful people already geared themselves up towards a goal and just got into the habit of smoking weed while they went, to keep themselves relaxed while they worked

so its more a case of what do they start doing first....working or smoking
User avatar #507 to #506 - jrondeau **User deleted account**
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Working or smoking not working. I'll bet I can also find plenty of losers who sit at home all day doing things that aren't smoking and leaching off of hardworking people.

Smoking pot isn't bad. People are bad.
User avatar #508 to #507 - konradkurze
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yep and all those losers who arent stoners, but still sit on their ass all day,...usualy have some other vice that they began early in life that robbed them of their motivation

on that side note...all the posers who think ******* around all day long, not paying attention in school or just not going because it doesnt fit their 'image', and end up being unable to get jobs because they plain dont know a ******* thing....yeah they are worse than stoners
*******/wiggers are worse than stoners....
User avatar #509 to #508 - jrondeau **User deleted account**
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Everyone has their vices. It's all about the drive to succeed.
User avatar #510 to #509 - konradkurze
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and that takes a step back to my previous comment...too many who get into the habit of getting stoned and relaxing before they find that drive to succeed in something, generally dont try to succeed
User avatar #512 to #510 - jrondeau **User deleted account**
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Depends on the vice. I played video games nearly every single day as a kid, devoted tons and tons of time to them, yet for all my slacking I and many other gamers have turned out okay. Same with lots of potheads, you're just biased against them for some reason. Not every pothead is some loser living in a trailer or their mom's basement somewhere, far from it in fact.
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well i will admit my family moving down here to new zealand was a bad thing, still dont know ******* why they did it....

one way to compare new zealand high drug use is like a medieval state
theyre a bunch of backwards peasants under the leadership of a ruthless tyrant who lords over the land and keeps people fearful and sad
and like good little peasants, they live with it because thats all theyve ever known, and use substances to relieve the sadness of their lives

plus nz'ers are easily swayed by media....they see so much american movies showing gangstas and stoners as badasses they aspire to be like them, getting high alot and wearing clothes like hiphop stars thinking that playing dress-up actually makes them cool

yeah....living here has given me a harsh outlook of the drug culture
id move to usa to check it out fully but its **** hard enough for ameicans to get work, and since im not from mexico or india, usa wont give me migrant work
User avatar #493 to #472 - jrondeau **User deleted account**
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No, my logic is "nearly everything we do is artificial already, so saying that something is bad because it's artificial defies common sense because that means nearly everything we do is bad."

I've said this twice to you already, yet you've done nothing to refute it because either you know your logic is flawed or you're not smart enough to see something when it's clearly laid out for you. That or you're a troll, which I'm really starting to believe at this point.

And did you seriously block me just for disagreeing with you?
User avatar #511 to #493 - konradkurze
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well mankind has been on a downward spiral of artificial things for a long time, and paying a cost of our own health and welfare and the welfare of the planet

too many people have been brainwashed into thinking of "now now now" relying on artificial things because theyre faster and easier to obtain or acheive

weed is one such thing,...rather than put effort into finding ways to relax or enjoy things, people just choose weed as the quick and easy 'take a puff and youre there' approach
User avatar #513 to #511 - jrondeau **User deleted account**
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Bro do you even think?

How easy is it to turn on a computer? To push the button to activate your gaming console? To pick up a ******* remote control and turn on your TV? All these things take considerably less effort than taking the time to hit up a dealer, meet up with them, getting home, rolling/packing, then smoking.

If you're a troll, you've won. I give up. I simply can't see any possible way of getting any semblance of intelligence or critical thinking skills into your thick skull.
User avatar #515 to #513 - konradkurze
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yepo and how long does a high last....30-40 minutes
how long can one game....hours

a gaming system is an investment, it costs more than weed in the short term but usually requires little to no upkeep and no further expenses....unless you get **** games that require DLC
weed, you buy it, use it, its gone, and have to buy more each time you want to use it

plus you seem pretty stressed bruh...maybe you should blaze it and relax
User avatar #473 to #472 - turtletroll
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The point is that smoking weed will make you feel good with little effects. But honestly you cant say that because something is unnatural it is automatically a bad thing.
User avatar #474 to #473 - konradkurze
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well yes, whats 'good' and 'bad' are subjective to human opinion, just at this current day and age, the majority view drugs as bad

maybe one day in the future as more and more stoners come into the world, they will hold the majority and common opinion will be drugs are okay....but hopefully it doesnt come to that
User avatar #475 to #474 - turtletroll
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Actually over 50% want weed legalized in the US.
User avatar #476 to #475 - konradkurze
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thats just usa, not the world as a whole
though given usa's "do as i ******* say' ideals, the world will end up following in usa's footsteps

problem being is that most stoners today dont have self control......before you butthurt i admit some do, just the majority DONT
ive met more stoners who blaze up anytime anywhere with a '**** you its my choice' attitude, than potsmokers who light up only in the right circumstance

if people learned self control and only lit up when its appropriate, like in their own homes, or places where its not infringing on other peoples private spave or property...then it could be allowed, just kids today arent doing that and are maintaining the media opinion of it all
User avatar #477 to #476 - turtletroll
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Well obviously it would still not be allowed to smoke in public as smoking cigarettes should be illegal to smoke in public. But for recreational use on one owns property. Who does it harm?
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well its bad enough humans who dont drive have to get blasted in the face with vehicles spewing exhaust at them on the sidewalk....even worse what fresh air there is is further poisoned with smokers blowing coulds of smoke into it so non-smokers have to breath that too....youre supporting that non-blazers will now also have to inhale 2nd hand weed smoke?

its bad enough we're being poisoned twice over each day, you want non-smokers to have to deal with randomly getting high from someone else smoking weed?

or should we walk around with gas masks on like japanese street cops do in order to breathe their cities tainted air
User avatar #480 to #478 - turtletroll
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Have you ever smoked weed?
User avatar #483 to #480 - konradkurze
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no, never seen a point to putting smoke in my lungs, or using any drug at all

not just for the purposes of not wanting anything to alter my perception of the world, but also i dont want to be involved with things that can be used against me in the real world
User avatar #479 to #478 - turtletroll
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Read what i said.

In their own home.

And you cant really get high by being near someone smoking weed.
User avatar #481 to #479 - konradkurze
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well yes, if people learned to keep their habit in their home, and preferably keep windows closed while they do it so it doesnt blow over to the neighbors house, then that would be okay

just too make people think thats okay, that just because theyre physically smoking the weed 'inside their own home' its somehow not a problem if it blows into others homes....or even stoners who smoke it on the back porch where it will auto blow everywhere

its just a mix od specific issues with it that will make it real difficult to control if it was made legal...its causing enough problems while its illegal....if it was made legal people would be more reckless with its use like people do with alcohol
(before you rage, yes alcohol affects people more, i was referring to people being more 'in your face' about using things)
User avatar #482 to #481 - turtletroll
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It wont blow into others homes... Honestly weed is not strong. Even if you smoke a whole joint you will be high for about 45 minutes. So i doubt that more than 1% of that smoke would even go into the neighbors house.
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well not everyone smokes joints.....there are how many people who blaze it in bongs and get whole lungfulls of it
or the stoners who hang out in large groups, so the combined smoke does become a large amount

i remember walking down the street and could smell weed coming from the local stoners place from 3 houses down

at this point in time, with stoners being irresponsible, smokers would have to begin a system of education and self control to smoke properly if they want it legal....if they keep enforcing it on others theyre gonna lose
User avatar #485 to #484 - turtletroll
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Nobody is telling you to smoke. And smelling it wont get you stoned or anything. Plus back to a point where using drugs can be used against you. If it was legalized then it couldn`t be used against you.
User avatar #486 to #485 - konradkurze
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well thats in the future when its legal, right now its a liability

plus i may have bad sides to my reputation but i just personally dont want potsmoker in that lot
User avatar #487 to #486 - turtletroll
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Well a majority of people have smoked it so its not like you will be singled out. And you shouldn`t really care about what people think about you.
User avatar #488 to #487 - konradkurze
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well yes, this 'most' people have given in to peer pressure and tried weed to see what the hype is
i dont just jump on the bandwagon and try everything just because 'everyone else' has done it, i sit back and think "is there a point to doing this' before doing anything

never seen a point to trying drugs....even like many others who have tried it once and never done again....i think of ...if i did it once, and never again, the act would have served no purpose other than a senseless once-off experience with no practical results to show for it
User avatar #490 to #488 - turtletroll
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And you don`t have to smoke it if you don`t want to. Nobody is forcing it on you.
User avatar #491 to #490 - konradkurze
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well that depends
what about all those stoners who get up in people's faces with "try it try it"....."free up your mind"...."live a little"
those i have dealt with.....not forcing it on me but preaching it at me

User avatar #489 to #488 - turtletroll
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Well it is just a good experience as far as i`m concerned. That is the point in doing it.
User avatar #492 to #489 - konradkurze
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well smoking a joint once is like scratching a lottery ticket and winning $5 once....

its a tiny buzz that means nothing in the long run
#182 to #33 - anon id: f558e7e7
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you did not deserve to get thumbed down it is definitely a relevant point, you get a green thumb from me
#196 to #33 - anon id: 9897997e
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I'm agreeing with you so hard right now
#47 to #33 - apocalypticburrito
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its a plant, it just grows that way   
if it was to happen to be on fire   
there are some side affects
its a plant, it just grows that way
if it was to happen to be on fire
there are some side affects
User avatar #51 to #47 - konradkurze
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well yeah
some cherries, apricots and cassava plants, when burnt, produce a form of cyanide

i wouldnt recommend inhaling that smoke either
User avatar #59 to #33 - DoktorHax
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hamburgers are unnatural when used with your logic. so is anything subjected to heat. also, i eat bud as well, so yalls can suck it.
User avatar #61 to #59 - konradkurze
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comparing cooking food to smoking shows you have smoked yourself retarded

food is a natural thing used in a natural manner called eating, and the stomachs reaction is feeling full, meaning it accepts the intake of food

smoking is unnatural, hence why the lungs cause coughing aka the body REJECTING it
User avatar #82 to #61 - alexhill
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********? Isn't that food rejection in your retarded logic
User avatar #85 to #82 - konradkurze
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no, thats food the body accepted and processed

if your lungs reject smoke, you cough, if your stomach rejects food, you vomit
User avatar #365 to #85 - alexhill
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If I smoke I rarely cough.
If I eat I rarely vomit.
Smoke is processed through the lungs and enter the blood stream thats how people intake the chemicals it is the same with food except through the stomach your logic is flawed. Smoking is not bad for you since vaporisng does no harm whatsoever it is combustion that harms.
User avatar #410 to #365 - konradkurze
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well thats the thing, the body does adapt to unnatural circumstances when exposed to it enough

when you first started smoking ****, you did cough, but over time your body got used to performing an unnatural act, like how drinkers build up a tolerance, doesnt change that its unnatural

inhaling smoke dries out areas of your lungs, vaporising is like smoking through a bong, the weed particles get caught in the water and water vapor with weed chemical content og into your lungs, hence why bong smokers cough less than direct potsmokers
User avatar #420 to #410 - alexhill
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Your logic is still flawed. Babies when they first start eating vomit a lot until they get used to food. Smokers cough a lot when first starting and a bong isn't the same as a vapouriser a bong relies on combustion of the material a vapouriser doesn't
#185 to #85 - ashedust
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No... that's the body rejecting the unwanted waste from the processed food. The byproducts your body doesn't want.   
   
Much in the same way weed smoke causes coughing. Once again, it's the body rejecting the unwanted.   
   
And just a sidenote, you might want to get more arguments. You're using the same one over and over.
No... that's the body rejecting the unwanted waste from the processed food. The byproducts your body doesn't want.

Much in the same way weed smoke causes coughing. Once again, it's the body rejecting the unwanted.

And just a sidenote, you might want to get more arguments. You're using the same one over and over.
#411 to #185 - konradkurze
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you know nothing about anatomy, digestion and excretion are part of the body processing food, absorbing the parts it needs and later expelling the leftovers\
User avatar #412 to #411 - ashedust
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Yeah... the leftovers it can't use or could process for whatever reason...
User avatar #416 to #412 - konradkurze
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get back on your short bus, youre a lost cause trying to justify yourself and your poor choices

taking a **** is the body removing the stuff it doesnt need, the body doesnt need every molecule from food, it just needs the vitamins out of it
when you take a lunch to school little ashedust, you just eat the food not the lunchbox that carried it
User avatar #418 to #416 - ashedust
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Your point? You just validated my point. That point being the body expelling the smoke is just the body getting rid of what it doesn't want.

P.S. Don't assume anything. It makes an ass out of you. I've never smoked a joint in my life. I saw an error in your argument and stepped in.
User avatar #422 to #418 - konradkurze
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no, coughing is the lungs rejecting weed and pushing back out the way it came

taking a **** means your body accepted food in, used what it wanted and dumped the leftovers

what part of weed does the body accept in and what does it push out the other end when its done?
#424 to #422 - ashedust
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What the hell do you call the high? That's the body accepting in the weed, or rather the things in it that cause the high. The smoke, the byproduct, is what it's rejecting.

You're seriously grasping at straws here.
User avatar #426 to #424 - konradkurze
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no, the high is the brain reacting to the weed altering the brain chemistry

coughing means the lungs want the smoke out then and there, and the high is your bodie's reaction to the substance as it works to purge the elements out
User avatar #429 to #426 - ashedust
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Yeah...? Because the reaction happens at all, from a chemistry standpoint, shows some sort of acceptance. We know it's not rejecting the weed itself because it's not a violent reaction and those tend to hurt. I don't think people would like weed much if it physically hurt when you took it. One reacts poorly to the physical aspect of smoke being in your body. Not the chemical aspect.

I still don't see what you're trying to accomplish.
User avatar #431 to #429 - konradkurze
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well using your logic, people sniff solvents, it doesnt hurt them so the bodies must be accepting it right

the body isnt accepting the weed chemicals, it just recognizes it has to tolerate them until it can purge them
User avatar #432 to #431 - ashedust
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Like I said, from a chemical standpoint, there's acceptance. And there can be pain and acceptance in the same reaction. But, acceptance tends to be a smooth reaction.

There are violent chemical reactions that aren't actually rejecting things.

If we look back to the original argument though. It should be agreed that in both the case of weed and food, the body is accepting the parts that it wants and purging the harmful materials that come with either subject.

That's the point... you have to deal with both the "good" (And I use the term loosely because of my moral views) and the "bad", but we can both agree that needing to take a dump to purge your body makes food "unnatural" or "bad" overall.
User avatar #441 to #432 - konradkurze
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one should not confuse acceptance with tolerance, the body tolerates some unnatural substances until the body's natural immune system can purge the foreign substances from the body and return it to normal

its a lost argument saying that weed and food are on the same level....the human body cannot survive without food, but it can survive without weed

consuming food is a natural activity to ensure that a person continues to live, its natural because we HAVE to do it....people DONT need to consume weed to live

people dont usually get chemical reactions to eating simple food because the body accepts them as normal self-sustaining elements, if people were meant to consume weed, then it would have no noticeable effect on us either
User avatar #443 to #441 - ashedust
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Food does have a noticeable effect on us... alibit, it takes time. Don't eat and you starve to death. Eat too much and you grow fat. But that's not the point. The point is, if weed and food are so dissimilar, why did you compare them in the first place? Or why did you continue the comparison when it was first brought up?

And tolerance is a type of acceptance. It's saying "I disagree, but I'll let it slide." It's saying "I don't agree with you, but I accept that you view things differently.". It's accepting that even though something goes against what you believe to know normally, its not yours to control.
User avatar #460 to #443 - konradkurze
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you were the one who began comparing food and weed, in your argument that ******** is comparable to coughing in the body rejecting things

taking what you have just said, dont eat and you starve, eat too much and you grow fat, well what about weed....not smoking it causes no effect at all, being clean in fact keeping life natural, and smoking any amount, too much or just enough, is unnatural because it directs your body to ways it doesnt achieve on its own

tolerance is not acceptance....the body doesnt play the lawyer game of "no reply is acceptance by default" , its "try to make the best of it till it can get rid of it"
kind of like a minor cold....the virus is in your blood but you dont feel that sick, but your body is working to purge it

any changes in the body's chemistry, will be met with a reaction of purging it to restore balance, whether it be bad like a sickness or good like an adrenalin rush....the body will break down the chaos and return your body to normality

its only in prolonged changes that the body starts to change and alter what it considers 'normal' to fit the situation...people who are sick often will feel poorly even during the breif healthy periods...stoners and adrenalin junkies will feel down when not on a buzz, and so on...

i have first hand facts on this, my flatmate spent 4 years regularly drinking coffee and energy drinks all day, then after the doctor told him to cut it out or he'll have heart attacks...now without caffeine to set his 'normal' he acts half dead
and ive met stoners who, because they have spent so long using weed to chill out, on the times theyre are clean, theyre irritable and easily angered because their bodies and minds have forgotten how to handle stress
User avatar #64 to #61 - DoktorHax
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and also, i have NEVER coughed up blood from puffin on a joint. or a cigarette. that comes from abuse and subsequent illnesses caused by the abuse. just like food will cause illnesses if abused.
User avatar #68 to #64 - konradkurze
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be clean
eat too much
abusing self with food

be a stoner
get high
munchies makes you eat too much
abusing yourself with food

both sides fail
User avatar #73 to #68 - DoktorHax
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aw yeah. because i have no self control when i get stoned. you will find that you have a lot more self control when high than anti drug propaganda would have you believe. how about you try it and THEN criticize, instead of standing on your "moral high ground" and preaching about something you have absolutely no practical knowledge of.
User avatar #81 to #73 - konradkurze
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im not following the medias opinion about drugs im following personal interaction with stoners....
yes each stoner has varying degrees of self control, but all have less self control when high as opposed to when theyre clean

when smokers are high they are more open to impulses
User avatar #92 to #81 - DoktorHax
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there you are right, but i still wont slap Mohammed Ali or jump in front of a car. in fact, i have never taken a more dangerous decision than trying to grab a tray with my pizza on it with my bare hands (only once) whilst high. not exactly a life threatening decision.
User avatar #95 to #92 - konradkurze
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well all in all, one cant define a general rule for 'abusing' weed, because everybody reacts differently

i knew one girl who didnt smoke weed per se, but went with friends blowing 2nd hand weed into her face so she could inhale
after one breath she ended up stoned enough to almost walk in front of said car.....
User avatar #99 to #95 - DoktorHax
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well, she was either a cadbury bitch, or faking it. second hand smoke will not get the average person that high unless you are sitting in on a hotbox in a car or something. and then you get a lot less high than everyone else.
User avatar #209 to #99 - jrondeau **User deleted account**
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Shotgunning is a powerful thing my friend...
User avatar #102 to #99 - konradkurze
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hence as i said, people react differently

still, intaking a substance that alters your brain processes is a form of abusing it
User avatar #105 to #102 - DoktorHax
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uh... no. chocolate alters your brain processes by releasing endorphins. abuse implies over use, which is an entirely different beasty to merely altering ones brain processes. using your definition of abuse implies that merely eating something that tastes good is abuse because it makes you happy. stop over-simplifying. it makes you look like an idiot.
User avatar #157 to #61 - metaljunkies
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except for the fact that eating meat is inherently unnatural to our body too by your logic, our body starts with no immunities to the toxins that exist in all meat, yet we eat it anyway and build up a tolerance to it
User avatar #430 to #157 - konradkurze
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well by your logic, since a number of plants we eat, also have toxic elements in them, should we stop eating them?

by and large most people can eat pretty much any veggie, just some people are more sensitive to certain toxins and cant eat them, and allergic reactions are the bodys way of saying 'dont consume that'

but as a whole, everybody coughs when inhaling smoke, thus everyones body shows a sign of rejecting it, its only certain people who defy nature and force their body to accept weed smoking that they slowly stop coughing over time

User avatar #63 to #61 - DoktorHax
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aw yeah. so any other animal will run towards a fire in the hope of a ******* cooked meal? is that what you are saying? no. cooking is unique to homo sapiens. like smoking. **** off. i never said smoking was a good thing, i merely said that your logic was simplistic, and thus, flawed.
User avatar #69 to #63 - konradkurze
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no, an animal will keep a distance from the fire till its out and no longer harmful, THEN eat the cooked meal

yes, choosing to smoke is a choice unique to humans thus humans stand alone in stupid decisions
aside from lemmings that jump off cliffs....but then thats MTV jackass people
User avatar #60 to #33 - majorcris
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You're just saying that because you've never smoked before.
User avatar #62 to #60 - konradkurze
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smoking is unnatural, if it was any other way, the lungs would not cause coughing as rejecting it and seeking fresh air
User avatar #71 to #33 - LookinHereWhy
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yet you're on a computer typing this
User avatar #74 to #71 - konradkurze
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processed substances used to make a computer, and the equipment running the internet arent natural theyre man made
so unnatural substances used for unnatural ways
User avatar #75 to #74 - LookinHereWhy
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but they all started off as natural
User avatar #86 to #75 - konradkurze
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back to the topic
natural substances used in unnatural ways
#108 to #33 - captiancook
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First of all arguing that it is "unnatural" is a logical fallacy. What is is not what aught to be. Secondly the point of smoking weed or tobacco varies from person to person. Tobacco is commonly used as a means of stress relief, where as weed can be use for stress relief, medical afflictions, somewhat as a pain killer, and as a way to alter ones state of mind.

User avatar #111 to #108 - konradkurze
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oh do tell doctor, please explain to me if smoking weed was natural why do lungs cough in rejecting smoke
User avatar #115 to #111 - captiancook
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I never said it was natural. I stated that arguing that it was unnatural was a silly premise and a logical fallacy. And yes the lungs do cough when inhaling smoke because smoke is irritating but that can be avoided through vaporizers, edibles, teas, and oils.

And please lay of the sarcasm.
User avatar #122 to #115 - konradkurze
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well then that branches off into another angle

using natural substances to achieve unnatural states of being
User avatar #125 to #122 - captiancook
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You argue that altered states of mind/perception is unnatural yet all throughout human history there has been evidence of people using drugs and mind altering substances in order to experience a different state of mind. I would argue that based on our history that it is simply human nature to desire an altered state of mind, and that this altered state of mind is not all that unnatural .
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well in short, through most of human history, people have either been in the abused underclass of slaves or workers toiling away their lives for their masters and using substances to overcome the depression from it all, or are the masters relaxing in opulence paid for by the workers and going decadent in luxury using substances to heighten the sensations

so youre supporting continuing this theme and never once thinking of breaking the cycle so the average person DOESNT need substances to be content with living?
User avatar #205 to #122 - jrondeau **User deleted account**
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You know that DMT naturally occurs in our bodies right? It's theorized that we release it in small quantities during sleep or in near-death experiences.

And dude, lay off the "it's not natural" argument. If you're going to stick with that as the basis of determining what's right or wrong, then get off your computer, abandon your house, and go live in a cave in order to avoid being an awful human being by your own standards.
User avatar #423 to #205 - konradkurze
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yes, our bodies produce its own version of it, meaning forcing in more is abusing the body by unnaturally intaking more than our bodies naturally produce
User avatar #469 to #423 - jrondeau **User deleted account**
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People still get high off their balls on the stuff when in the right situation. Ever heard people talking about near-death experiences and going to hell, seeing themselves being operated on whilst unconscious, or some other weird ****? I'd say that that qualifies as tripping balls, just as you do from smoking the stuff.
#471 to #469 - konradkurze
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well near-death experiences are back on that topic, the body does that on its own

patients operate on are under the influence of medications, thus unnatural

now excuse me, ill talk to this brick wall, it accepts others opinions more than you stoners do
User avatar #494 to #471 - jrondeau **User deleted account**
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The body trips balls all on its own, yet it's not okay to do it unless you're about to die? Somehow I think that doing it recreationally may be a bit safer than the more "natural" method.

And if I were an ignorant brick wall, I'd be the one absolutely covered in red thumbs in this ********* you created instead of you.
User avatar #496 to #494 - konradkurze
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the body trips balls reacting to extreme situations, most often as part of the survival instinct to protect itself

smoking weed makes the body trips balls reacting to the drug with no threatening source to protect itself from...so pretty much traumatizing the body for nothing
#133 to #33 - tegz
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tell that to the tribes men who lived waaaaaaaay before us, who respected nature as god, and used pipes and herbs.

also we cant name one animal which gets high right?
User avatar #139 to #133 - chaosascendingx
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actually some large cats gnaw on the roots of some tree and get high
Saw it on survivorman i believe cant remember the specifics
#143 to #139 - tegz
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sarcasm
User avatar #149 to #143 - chaosascendingx
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very hard to read sarcasm
User avatar #179 to #149 - tegz
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i couldnt name an animal that gets high , thats why i put a koala picture there. (sarcasm)
#167 to #149 - anon id: e20d028d
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Think it was some sort of cheetah like cat.
User avatar #184 to #139 - sanguinesolitude
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monkey and many animals consume a bunch of rotten fermented fruits to get an alcoholic buzz.
User avatar #465 to #184 - konradkurze
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well thats eating rotten food, not inhaling smoke
User avatar #135 to #33 - mutzaki
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Look at this ******* thread. People seem to get extremely defensive about their drugs.
User avatar #138 to #135 - randomserb
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Only smoked one puff of a cigarette in my whole life. This guy is just plain wrong.
User avatar #141 to #33 - chaosascendingx
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>Unnatural ways
>Because iron, copper and gold were meant to be used to create computers
User avatar #35 to #33 - biggrand
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**** burns, animals inhale that ****, sounds natural to me
User avatar #36 to #35 - konradkurze
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okay please find me any animal that can create fire to burn things, or any animal that APPROACHES fire to inhale smoke
plus comparing animals to humans shows you **** logic

User avatar #39 to #36 - lorkhan
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Humans are animals...
#41 to #39 - konradkurze
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so somehow having higher brain function equates to choosing to fight natural instincts and perform unnatural acts?
so somehow having higher brain function equates to choosing to fight natural instincts and perform unnatural acts?
User avatar #42 to #41 - lorkhan
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I just corrected you and said that humans are animals.
User avatar #44 to #42 - konradkurze
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well if mankind is a more intelligent animal that commits unnatural acts that other animals dont. it proves every other animal is superior to humans
User avatar #53 to #44 - lokiwins
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Fires are natural is what he said. Lightning can cause fire, heat can cause fire. There are plenty of ways for fire to start and find its way to a marijuana plant.
#56 to #53 - konradkurze
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yes, but only humans are stupid enough to CHOOSE to inhake smoke   
   
animals do it when caught in unfortunate situations but generally move away to find fresh air, humans chose to put **** in their lungs against fresh air
yes, but only humans are stupid enough to CHOOSE to inhake smoke

animals do it when caught in unfortunate situations but generally move away to find fresh air, humans chose to put **** in their lungs against fresh air
#94 to #56 - anon id: 80e0dd38
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4 / 20 stop trying faggot!
User avatar #96 to #94 - konradkurze
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from smoking weed to smoking cock....the long list of what goes in anons mouth
User avatar #38 to #36 - biggrand
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lightning and lava? **** does burn in nature, just not as frequently as it does now
User avatar #40 to #38 - konradkurze
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once again
please show me an animale that runs TOWARDS lightning when it strikes, or or towards lava
they dont, something called survival instinct says "move AWAY" from things that burn
User avatar #52 to #40 - zanea
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Wildebeast travel towards the sound of thunder because it means rain is soon to follow. As for other "unnatural activities" Red Velvet monkeys in the Caribbean often times steal alcoholic beverages as a result of them having a taste for fermenting fruit. AND finally, Ruffed lemurs bite centipedes so they release their toxins, which they then rub on themselves as an insect repellent which also makes them high as ****.
don't believe me? go to youtube and type in "drunken monkeys and smashed lemurs".
User avatar #118 to #52 - forszhen
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User avatar #55 to #52 - konradkurze
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the wilderbeast goes towards thunder for the rain, aka WATER not smoke

lemurs and the centipede thing sounds more like the equivalent of people who inhale solvents,.....their primary drive was keep bugs away.....i dont see them sitting around sniffing the toxin because they can

and the monkeys fermented fruit thing is like alcohol consumption,
#156 to #40 - anon id: 920b80f9
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But humans have a pretty big intellect, we know its not going to directly hurt us. If you enjoy candy then you don't have anything to come with, cause candy hurts slowly, same thing with marijuana, you can enjoy it but its hurting you. Its funny though that its hurts you and others less than alcohol yet its illegal. So the reason why animals run away from fire is because they think its going to hurt them. And so will humans, but if its a fireplace then we relax near it, some animals do to. Thats because they know it won't hurt them. All your arguments has been something that drunkard could come up with. By the way, red thumbs mean stop.
User avatar #433 to #156 - konradkurze
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well weed is largely illegal because hemp products are cheaper and more readily available and less damaging to the environment than the paper industry, but since the paper manufacturers dont want competition, they threw money at the government to have weed made illegal

then in i think the 1890's, usa began a war on drugs simply to begin a system of harvesting money from the citizens through both taxing them to begin a major political battle over a minor problem, and where needed hand out fines to drug users caught....(pretty much double dipping in taxing AND fining users)

as the war on drugs has grown, its expanded out to actually IMPORT drugs from south america to fuel the supply in western countries and thus maintain a steady source from which to tax/fine the people

animals in the wild run from fire because thats natural instinct, domesticated animals have been taught to ignore this instinct so long as the fire stays in the fireplace
same logic with stoners,....its human nature to reject smoke, but stoners train themselves to deal with it
User avatar #46 to #40 - biggrand
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a tree or area burns, the smokes is going to travel pretty far regardless, fumes will probably be inhaled
User avatar #48 to #46 - konradkurze
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but thats considered a hazard, the animals arent making a choice to be in that smoke and would usually look for a way to get clear of it
User avatar #22 - hankhillofthe
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I find it very hard to believe someone's parents would be saying "I CAN'T."
User avatar #338 to #22 - redstag
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Tumblr.
#373 to #22 - satoshimiwa
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This kind of people also reproduces
#4 - fukyu
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i can't believe they had to smell it to figure out it was oregano
User avatar #5 to #4 - javalord
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It does look like some nicely ground weed though.
User avatar #30 to #4 - justignoreme
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it looked like some nasty ass shake to me.
#23 to #4 - ukellisuae
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That looks quiet a lot like ground up bud, so don't be a dick.
User avatar #9 to #4 - deathcampforjewtie
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Sorry, Detective Smokey McPott, most people can't distinguish weed from oregano by sight.
User avatar #145 - infamoustrapper
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If it's actually oregano, how do they know he was smoking it at all then....
User avatar #161 to #145 - warioteam
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YIP JUST GOIN TO BAG MY OREGANO AND PUT IT ON MY WINDOWSILL
User avatar #171 to #161 - infamoustrapper
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YEAH MAN WHY NOT HE COULD BE A PROFESSIONAL CHEF WHO CARRIES HIS INGREDIENTS AROUND AT ALL TIME
User avatar #498 to #161 - yip
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wat