Scumbag... My country :(. I don't want to live on this planet anymore.. WE' RE EDAWRD ENTIENDEN DH EWING AND THE DATA HIE STOLE- T' SWINE-
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Scumbag... My country :(

I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

WE' RE
EDAWRD ENTIENDEN DH
EWING
AND THE
DATA HIE STOLE-
T' SWINE-
...
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#24 - Milos (06/30/2013) [+] (3 replies)
#49 - allamericandude (06/30/2013) [+] (14 replies)
I love how people are trying to make this only about Snowden. Who gives a **** about Snowden? If he broke the law, great. If he didn't, great.

Let's not forget that the US government has been spying on it's own people. This is very against...everything. None of this pussyfoot ******** of "Oh...well...technically it's legal because Congress passed a law to fight terrorism and"--no. "Yeah...well...they said they're only going to use this information if they have a warra.."--no. If you're naive enough to believe that ********* , you need to get your head examined.

The 4th Amendment of the Constitution clearly says "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

It's "shall not be violated", not "shall not be violated unless it's convenient to do otherwise."

I mean, seriously, what the **** type of country are we--and how dare we try to impose our values on other people--if we won't even stand up for our own values in our own country and just roll over whenever someone tells us to?


Sorry, I got a bit ranty there. Here's a kitty to compensate.
User avatar #11 - douthit (06/30/2013) [+] (6 replies)
He's accused of telling the truth. I don't think see anything immoral about what he did. I love how the media's totally ignoring what the government did, only what this one guy did.
#1 - xxxsonic fanxxx (06/29/2013) [+] (11 replies)
So leave
User avatar #2 to #1 - fyourahole (06/29/2013) [-]
As a service member, I'm obligated to stay and continue in my efforts to make it better. But good advice, anon.
User avatar #40 - kingbulbasaur ONLINE (06/30/2013) [+] (2 replies)
Why does Obama have beats in this comic? Is there something I'm missing?
User avatar #41 to #40 - madshatter (06/30/2013) [-]
he's a douchebag
#18 - spacedunk (06/30/2013) [+] (1 reply)
Actually, they're also trying to arrest him for taking four hard drives full of NSA data out of the country and into China AND Russia of all places.
#74 - summerx (06/30/2013) [+] (10 replies)
Here's why I believe it is important to be against the NSA and Obama's actions. Many of you think spying on citizens is just a way for the government to keep us safe, and so long as we don't partake in illegal, "terrorist"  behavior, why should we be worried?    
   
Well, it's because it violates the Bill of Rights, as well as our fundamental rights as free citizens. The Bill of Rights was specifically established to protect us, the citizens, from the inevitable event that the government uses the Constitution as a way to limit individuals' rights and in a sense, "take over". Come on guys, Thomas Jefferson KNEW something like this would happen, and so he, along with a handful of anti-federalists made sure that we would still have rights.    
   
So how did they violate the Bill of Rights? The fourth amendment, guarding us against unreasonable searches and seizures:   
   
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized"   
   
There have been numerous landmark Supreme Court cases where victims of these same violations fought and argued so that today, us citizens could maintain a sense of privacy and discretion in our daily lives. I honestly don't want to live in a world where every word I type is recorded, and being lulled into a false sense of security by the government is awful. Learn your constitutional rights and fight for them when the government tries to take them away.
Here's why I believe it is important to be against the NSA and Obama's actions. Many of you think spying on citizens is just a way for the government to keep us safe, and so long as we don't partake in illegal, "terrorist" behavior, why should we be worried?

Well, it's because it violates the Bill of Rights, as well as our fundamental rights as free citizens. The Bill of Rights was specifically established to protect us, the citizens, from the inevitable event that the government uses the Constitution as a way to limit individuals' rights and in a sense, "take over". Come on guys, Thomas Jefferson KNEW something like this would happen, and so he, along with a handful of anti-federalists made sure that we would still have rights.

So how did they violate the Bill of Rights? The fourth amendment, guarding us against unreasonable searches and seizures:

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized"

There have been numerous landmark Supreme Court cases where victims of these same violations fought and argued so that today, us citizens could maintain a sense of privacy and discretion in our daily lives. I honestly don't want to live in a world where every word I type is recorded, and being lulled into a false sense of security by the government is awful. Learn your constitutional rights and fight for them when the government tries to take them away.
#17 - xxxsonic fanxxx (06/30/2013) [+] (3 replies)
******* yankees... Hope the chinese nuke you into oblivion.
#26 to #17 - shadesofbacon (06/30/2013) [-]
Let's be honest, as **** as america is, for the majority of us in the first world them maintaining the status quo isn't a bad thing
User avatar #67 - gibroner (06/30/2013) [+] (2 replies)
especially when you consider that Obama said he wanted to protect whistle blowers. I guess he just meant when they aren't blowing the whistle on him
#46 - infinitereaper (06/30/2013) [+] (5 replies)
Everybody knows that in financial based video games with loaning or borrowing modes once you go into deficit and go red you are dead.

America will be at $17,000,000,000,000 in the red soon enough.

who the **** does the government think they're kidding


#45 - xxxsonic fanxxx (06/30/2013) [+] (66 replies)
That guy who blew the cover on this whole thing... everyone is calling him a ******* patriot and **** . This guy is not a patriot, he's a terrible person. He's a ******* asshole and idiot. The government was just trying to keep us safe but this guy ruined it and now everyone is over reacting to what the government did. I'm sorry that i'm not paranoid and think the world is out to get me... ******* nutcases. Calm down and get over yourself, you're not that important that they'd waste their time spying on you. This was supposed to protect us from terrorists and other things. If you have nothing to hide then there's no issue. I hope this guy is caught and thrown in prison for being a god damn traitor.
User avatar #50 to #45 - Sethorein ONLINE (06/30/2013) [-]
If a government dispatched an agent to follow you around all day every day taking notes on you but not telling you what he's writing, is that cool?

Also, how do you know the government's priorities? What they say and what they do are entirely different and the mere fact that they are invading our privacy in this manner is incredibly shady and has the potential to be downright tyrannical.

China does **** like this.

So don't call it over-reacting. We react according to the absurdity of the issue, because if we just sit and take it the guys up top will keep taking more.

I'll sooner take a bullet from a terrorist than lose my privacy, thank you.
User avatar #28 - tehgoggler (06/30/2013) [+] (3 replies)
i can see that people are jumping on the 'that's classified and could harm our country- bandwagon' so allow me to point something out.

without people blatantly opposing the will of our government in the name of what they believe to be right, how will other countries be able to see that the beliefs and 'values' of the US gov't ARE NOT necessarily those of its citizens?

if i were from another country and watched american "news" programs, i would believe that america was a land of violent, ignorant, self-important cocks and would leap at the opportunity to **** their **** up. i'm from here and i KNOW that a lot of our people are absolute cocks, but if we can show the world here and there that we're not ALL cocks maybe we won't get the cocks cocked out of our cocks.
User avatar #51 - kafudamapla (06/30/2013) [+] (4 replies)
I don't see why this bothers everyone so much. They've been collecting data they're not supposed to yes, but they're only doing it for your own security. Your personal lives mean nothing to the NSA
User avatar #58 to #51 - wernstrom (06/30/2013) [-]
He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.- Ben Franklin

Just sayin
#9 - onewhoobserves ONLINE (06/30/2013) [+] (9 replies)
Snowden is charged with three federal crimes: theft of government property, unauthorized communication of national defense information, and willful communication of classified communications information with an unauthorized party

Hmm...THESE ARE ALL THINGS HE HAS DONE! It doesn't matter if it is ethically right or not for the government to spy on us. You cannot have people doing this **** without the world's governments either flying apart of going to war because of sensitive classified material being released. Do you think the revelation of this spying program has done ANY good for our international relations? The answer is no. And as to the worry that he wouldn't get a fair trial or have an accident on the way to the trial...if we really wanted to do something like that the Ecuadorian embassy in London would have had a gas explosion and the wiki leak servers would be mysteriously destroyed in an unrelated incident.

To put this in perspective: he is guilty of the crimes whether the program was ethical or not (as the program was deemed legal).

It is roughly the equivalent of someone going out and killing a bunch of drug dealers. Sure its for the greater good and does great things for the community but that person is still guilty of murder.

As such Snowden should go to federal prison and maybe he'll get pardoned or a reduced sentence in light of the fact that the program is not necessarily the most ethical one out there...But he is guilty of the crime and should be convicted for it.
#21 to #10 - onewhoobserves ONLINE (06/30/2013) [-]
Finish that quote from MLK: "One who breaks an unjust law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for law." You notice the very important part that Snowden didn't do? The part about willingly accepting the penalty? Releasing the information and then running off shows that he didn't care that much about the morality of the law. Honestly that and the fact that he jumped first to China and then to Russia makes it look more like he was recruited by a foreign intelligence agency and released the information to muddy the waters than that he cared about getting the information out. In addition MLK was specifically talking about laws with segregation and social inequality with the specific idea that these were targeted at a specific group rather than at everyone.

As for the quote from Aquinas if you actually read what he is talking about rather than quoting out of context, he is arguing for the pre-eminence of natural or divine law over that of man-made law. In essence follow those laws set in place by God. We have quite a few laws that under this definition would be unjust.
Now taking the quote out of context and applying it to morality in law brings us to the question of who decides what is moral? Do the American people? Judging by recent events with gun control(with over 70% wanting stronger background checks and such) the answer so far is no. So then we have to move on to the courts. In this case they had decided that this was legal and thus at least somewhat just. If we don't use the courts we have to move on to legislative who had oversight on this and thus gave it tacit endorsement thus making it Just there. If we don't use the legislative then we use the executive who initiated the program and thus obviously believes it to be just. Or do we use the corporations who owned the info?
User avatar #35 - pvtgoblin (06/30/2013) [-]
You were indicted

Snowden's FW
#39 - xxxsonic fanxxx (06/30/2013) [+] (1 reply)
So many Governement lovers here.

If you bitches loved unjust Governements so much, you'd still be British.

#5 - ThekidsTEN (06/30/2013) [-]
Black men and their beats. Even the president has to have some.
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