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Let's make this the last X1 post. Made the picture myself. I believe him. I don't know about you guys, but I can already feel some morons are going to say &quot

Made the picture myself. I believe him.
I don't know about you guys, but I can already feel some morons are going to say "Well why didn't they just say so? If this is what they wanted to do, they would have said so!". People complain that consoles are becoming PC's all the time. How much of a hard on do you think the PC Mustard race would get if you told them the Xbox is going the way of Steam.
Link to the original link I got it from: www.neowin.net/news/anonymous-xbox-engineer-explains-drm-and-microsofts-xbox-one-intentions

Alleged Anonymous Microsoft Engineer
on Xbox One DRM policies
thing is we suck at telling the story. The whole point of the DRM switch
from disc based to cloud based is to kill disc swapping, scratched discs, bringing
discs to friends house, traducing for shit val: m with nothign going back to
developers, and high game costs. If you want games cheaper then 59. 99, you
have to limit used games somehow, Steam '5 model requires a limited used game
model.
thing is, the DRM is really really similarly steam... You can login
anywhere and play your games, anyone in your house can play with the family
xbox. The only diff is steam you have to sign in before playing, and Xbox does it
automatically at night for you (once per 24 hours)
s a long tail strategy, just like steam. Steam had it' s growing pains at the
beginning with all it' s drm shit as well. [...] For digital downloads steam had no
real com petition at the time, they were com peting against boxed sales. At the
time people were pretty irate about steam, (on ychan too...) It was only once
they had a digital marketplace with DRM that was locked down to prevent
sharing that they could do super discounted shit.
Tthink about it, on steam you get a game for the true cost of the game, 5530
5. On a console you have to pay for that PLUS any additional licenses for when
you sell / trade / borrow / etc. If the developer / publisher can' t get it on
additional licenses (like steam), then they charge the first person more. [...] If we
say "Hey publishers, you limit game to 39. 99, we ensure every license transfer
you get IOS, gamestop gets " that is a decent model... Microsoft gets a
license fee on first and subsequent game purchases, com pared to just first now?
That' s a revenue increase.
petition is the best man, it helps drive both to new heights. See
technology from the Cold War. If we had no USSR, we' d be way worse off today.
TLDR: Bring it on Steam :)
we passed that around the office at Xbox. Most of us were like "Well
played Sony, Well played". That being said they arepost riding the hype train of
ZOMG THEY ARE TRYING TC) FUCK US FOR NO REASON. Without actually
thinking about how convienent it would be for the majority of the time to not
find that disc your brother didn' t put back... [...]just sim parminder people not
seeing the bigger picture. Some PSA viral team made them all "U TOOK R
DISCS" and they hiveminded.
Everyone and their mother com plains about how gamestop fucks them on
their trade ins, getting 55 for their used games. We come in trying to find a way
to take money out of gamestop, and put some in developers and get you
possibly cheaper games and everyone bitches at MS. Well, if you want the (IN;
Maing from Gamestop, go play PSA.
goal is to move to digital downloads, but Gamestop, Walmart, Target,
Amazon are KIND OF FUCKING ENTRENCHED in the industry. They have a lot of
power, and the shift has to be gradual. Long term goal is steam for consoles. [...]
If you always want to stay with what you have, then keep current consoles, or a
PSA. We' re TRYING to move the industry forwards towards digital distribution...
it' bumpy road
Publishers have enouch ous power. Microsoft is trying to balance between
consumer delight, and publisher wishes. If we cave to far in either direction you
have a kickstarting product. Wiiu goes too farta consumer, you have no rrd
party support to shake a stick at. PSA is statuesque. Xbl is trying to push some
things, at the expense of others. We have a vision, we' ll see if it works in the
coming years
Living room transformation. We want to own the living room. Every living
room TV with an Xbox on input one. It' s the thing that gives the signal to your
TV, everything is secondary. The future, where games, TV, internet telephony, all
that shit happens magically on some huge ass screen with hand / voice
gestures... That' s our goal.
egoogle TV + PSA + Minority report level gestures, that com baned with a sick
second screen experience (which is really hot for TV, I knowi know.. N N N N
N... but it' s fucking sick when you have it). Games will be the same, there are
more exclusives to MS then PS atm, and Kinect 2 makes Kinect 1 look like a
childs toy.
By default it' s on, listening for "Xbox On". You can turn it off tho, and turn
the console like OFF off. OFF off is required for Germany / other countries that
require it (no vam pire appliances) [...] It has to be plugged in for the console to
post. You can turn off everything it does from the settings. Think of it like
airplane mode for the iphone. You can' tjust unplug the cellular radio, but you
can turn it off.
Winstead of gamins, is for your console, and 1 or 2 at a friends house.
Really the majority of people have a speck of internet at least once a day. And if
you don' t. Don' t buy an Xbox L Just like if you didn' t have a broadband
connection don' t get Live, and if you don' t have an HDTV the 360 isn' t that great
for you either. New tech, new req. This allows us to do cool shit when we can
assume things like you have a kinect, you have internet, etc.
plan is basically you' re fucked after 24 hours. Yeah... I know. Kind of
sucks. I believe they will probably revise the time period and / or find a diff way
to ''call in" to ensure you haven' t sold your license to gamestop or something...
but there is no plan YET. I' m hoping the change it, buti don' t work on that sol
don' t have much influence there /sigh
the power goes out you ain' t playing shit. I' m assuming you mean the
internet goes out but you have power for TV and Xbox. Yes, You' re fucked for
single player games. Again, that' s the Por (Plan of record), buti expect it to
change after the clusterfuck
fee? There is no fee to play your games at your friends house. Never
has, never will. Even digital downloads could do that.
cloud capabilities is the shit they like the most. We basically made a
huge cloud com pute shit and made it free. What people are doing with it is kind
of cool. The original intention was to get all the Multiplayer servers not
requiring rrd party costs (Like EA shutting down game servers to cut costs), as
well as taking all the games that servers hosted by the clients (Halo, etc), and
have all that com pute done in the cloud allowing more CPU cycles for gameplay.
That will really expand what developers can do. Anything that doesn' t need per
frame calculation and can handle delays can be shifted to the cloud.
That' s huge.
IE is going to be pretty freaking sweet. 1 finger cursor, 2 finger
direct manip. Basically if you think of a laptop trackpad where your phone/ slate
is the trackpad and the monitor is your IV, it' s that. The tech is there, just needs
to be applied. There is some really cool shit going on with Petra + controllers
that pairs people with controllers. So if person with controller two trades
controlers with controller 1, their profiles magically switch. It' s sick. What does
this matter? Now if you lean left/ right it knows which person is leaning, even ifa
people are all int he same room. It' s awesome.
New service using Azure for cloud com pute. Allows developers to not use
clients for hosting multiplayer servers, or other tasks that do not require per
frame colorations. It' s pretty sweet.
Honestly, if you care about anything other then pure games AT ALL. Xbox 1
PSA. If all you do is play games, and nothing else, PSA.
s not worth matimero prove it, or risk my Job. I work in Studio A, 40th
ave in Redmond, . The thai place in the studio cafeteria has double punch
wednesdays. Go ahead and call them and verify if you want.
This was all from the Microsoft engineer that was on /b/ last night.
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> hey anon, wanna give your opinion?
asd
User avatar #39 - analbuttfuck
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So what this is saying is...

Do the logical thing, and buy a gaming computer and use Steam?

One step ahead of you Microsoft.
#22 - rimjobmcgee
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(06/15/2013) [-]
ATTENTION EVERYONE: This is a troll. Though microsoft may learn from it and make it true before release. That is all
User avatar #24 to #22 - awesomenessdefined [OP]
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You're gonna need proof first, mate.
User avatar #38 - nephritho
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(06/15/2013) [-]
>Microsoft engineer
>/b/
seems legit.
User avatar #48 to #38 - awesomenessdefined [OP]
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People have lives of their own you know.
User avatar #49 to #48 - nephritho
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(06/15/2013) [-]
That's correct.
But that someone like that be lurking on a site where people laugh about something what most people think it's taboo to laugh at.
It's highly unlikely.
User avatar #51 to #49 - awesomenessdefined [OP]
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It's not really lurking. This was his only post in the thread. Probably just came onto /b/ to see what's going on, saw a thread, replied, and left.
User avatar #52 to #51 - nephritho
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(06/15/2013) [-]
or like 99% of the other threads just people with full of ****.
User avatar #56 to #52 - awesomenessdefined [OP]
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Do you think 99% of people would defend the X1? Besides, he gave a little proof. Check out that place he works.
User avatar #23 - kriodine
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I quite honestly don't care about the Xbox 1 or the PS4, but when you try to compare yourself to past failures of other companies you seem dumb. Yes we know steam was bad at launch but use their failure to make your product better. Don't say "but they had problems too", yes they did have problems but the key word is had. The entire point of even studying history is to avoid repeating failures.
User avatar #9 - phtholognyrrh
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>If all you want to do is game and pure gaming
- false. ps4 does pretty much all the same stuff, and netflix doesnt require some stupid gold membership.
User avatar #14 to #9 - awesomenessdefined [OP]
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In all fairness, no it doesn't.

The Playstation Eye can't do the stuff the Kinect can, definitely can't do the stuff the Kinect 2.0 can, and the apps aren't really eye-candy or efficient. It doesn't integrate with your cable box ("tv, tv, tv, tv"), and if what he said about cloud computing is true, PS4 can't do that either, yet.

I like the PS4, but come on.
User avatar #71 to #14 - sadaros
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Tell me, do you see a potential for a Kinect game, that isnt a dancing game, to ever work?
User avatar #21 to #14 - phtholognyrrh
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but you are right about xbox being more inter-device friendly. (tv tv tv tv).
User avatar #20 to #14 - phtholognyrrh
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okay, cloud computing is a plus that ps4 will probably add in an update. as for apps, sony never has been about the apps, its been about functions. the cross menu function is incredibly well organized, and a lot of apps are redundant when most people buying a ps4 will have laptops and smartphones. and as good as the kinect may function, it is still a few short steps away from big-brother level control.
User avatar #3 - malinko
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dont really care how you put it bud, if i wanted all the digital games and downloads and stuff that you are talking about i would.....of wait i ALREADY own a PC.

the game console is what i do when my internet goes out or when im tired of looking at porn and funny pictures.

you want to go with just digital games? thats ******* fine. just say "we are going with digital games now, they are cheaper and you just download them from the games section. and thats all."

but no, you have to bring about all this other ******** with restrictions. like checking in. im a grown ******* man, i dont have to "check in" with anyone,

and this **** or wanting to be "everything" when it comes to entertainment in your living room. ******* ego much man? you are a ******* game console. know youre ******* place. unless your name is JARVIS and you are going to do cool **** with holograms and sarcastic remarks, just sit the **** down.

let me just pop in my game (or download) and let me sit my fat ass on the couch, eat some ******* tacos, and not have to worry about anything else. thats what i want, thats what my friends want, and thats what america wants.
#8 to #3 - anon id: 750663fa
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Foolish Slut, The Kinect 2.0 is JARVIS 0.5.

I think the whole point of his talk was that it isn't just a game console.

User avatar #10 to #8 - malinko
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well a game console is what i want to buy, so they can **** off.
User avatar #11 to #10 - awesomenessdefined [OP]
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The last line was:
"If all you do is play games, nothing else, PS4"

And if that's what this hardcore Microsoft employee feels, It's probably what Microsoft feels as well.
User avatar #12 to #11 - malinko
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yeah, and that attitude is what will make them bomb this console war. its not about what you want, or what you think its about what your customers want.

its like if i went to a resturant and ordered something and didnt like it or wasnt cooked right and they just said "if you dont like it dont eat it" do you think i will being go back there? hell no
User avatar #13 to #12 - awesomenessdefined [OP]
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Well, yeah, but according to the MS employee, MS wants to be in your living room. I don't think gaming is their only priority anymore. They're trying to talk to the older gamers with families and stuff now or something.

I guess my point is, it's a mutual goodbye.
Honestly, I'd recommend a PS4 as well for pure gaming.
User avatar #15 to #13 - malinko
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yeah, same here. i really enjoyed the 360 even with its flaws buit with xbox going the way they are, i cant follow. its just not me.

they seem to have some sort of idea about entertainment in their head and are trying to force it onto people. if they made it more user friendly and gave me the option, the choice as to what i wanted out of it, i would be fine with that. but they dont. they are forcing their way of things onto people.

id recommend the ps4 for anyone really. it will be able to do all the same stuff. movies, music, games, internet, netflix, and all sorts of streaming of movies and tv. its not just pure gaming. but they are giving me the choice and not shoving it all , along with advertisements down my throat.

idk thats just my veiw on it. good day to you sir.
User avatar #17 to #15 - awesomenessdefined [OP]
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Ooh, about the ad thing. Apparently the new Xbox Dashboard won't have any ads, so that's a plus.
User avatar #18 to #17 - malinko
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well the 360 has an ass ton. so i guess that would be nice
#72 - Blasphemer
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Me and my PC are still laughing at everybody.
#32 - taurusguy
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Didnt read it all, but what i got was that he was trying to say that xbox one is the next step or whatever, and it is, it really is, but xbox one is a HUGE leap forward, a ballsy as **** leap. Steam has offline mode, you can play without internet (not online of course) but you can play, if xbox one removed the hurr durr you need kinect and to login and all that **** it would be a perfect thing, but right now PS4 and xbox one are basically meant for countries that are a bit wealthier, if you cant even put my country into supported list you can go **** yourself, even Runescape has more countries on their list than MS and PS4 (cant say for nintendo, never had a console from them)

TLDR: xbox one is good but too early, would be good if they fixed a few issues
#2 - sanguinesolitude
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could someone give a synopsis. Its not that i cant read it, i just dont ******* care enough.
User avatar #40 to #2 - thatguycrow
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Microsoft are trying to make the Xbone more like steam, sacrificing the ability to trade games freely for cheaper games and more sale etc. as well as the ability to log in anywhere and play games. Honestly they wouldn't get as much hate if they'd have marketed this correctly. I've said it before and I'll say it again, Microsoft's PR guys need to be fired
User avatar #41 to #40 - sanguinesolitude
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yeah i read it
User avatar #4 to #2 - barenoizedub
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Xbox One isn't as bad as people are making out because things and stuff. (there are a fair few valid points in there tbh, I would read it if I were you)
User avatar #5 to #4 - sanguinesolitude
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damnit fine ill go read it. Still think ill be buying a ps4 at launch.


ty for the speedy response
User avatar #6 to #5 - barenoizedub
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It's cool and yeah, PS4 does still seem like the better option out of the two, im gunna stick to my PC though and just plug in a controller haha
User avatar #7 to #4 - sanguinesolitude
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update. Read it. makes some fair points, but the negatives and higher price point are steering me towards the ps4.

I will almost assuredly get an xbox1 eventually, but i think PS4 will be the priority
User avatar #61 - anonchief
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TLR

X1 is copying steam and still sucks monkey dick.