It's a flower! - #94747757 added by berentzen at Well Said.

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(06/14/2013) [-]

What a ********!
It's YOUR life, do what makes YOU happy.
And I think it's better to have this flower for some days then have it never.

#188 to #177 - doubleac

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How can selfishness be loving? He's saying don't force someone to be with you, because if you do they aren't free to love you, they're losing who they are to please you. They lose their hearts because of your selfish, obsessed one.
By all means, do what you want, but if you do that, don't call it love.

#220 to #188 - HeartOfTheDL

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Basement girl #10 hasn't lost her heart yet. Though to be fair I keep all the the others in jars so I can have their hearts forever.

#222 to #220 - doubleac

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Aha oh wow

#213 to #188 - whippersnapper

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If she wont be loyal then who wants her, let her go, but if she wants to stay, dont let her stay either unless she promises to be yours alone.

#215 to #213 - doubleac

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I agree, love has to be mutual and free, with both people making a promise to honor and care for another.
I think that second part of what you said is important,"dont let her stay either unless she promises to be yours alone", I think it shows maturity, because it shows care for her well being, as well as your own, because you're not going to lead her on, or vice versa.

#216 to #215 - whippersnapper

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You have to put your expectations and requirements up front, I wont get started down a road with someone who doesn't intend to go all the way with me, and by 'go all the way' I mean a life together, not just nookie. It is popular just to have short relationships these days but that is not how it should be, when you go through the most intense experiences of your life with someone, those are treasures that cant be fully shared with anyone else but those you went through it with.

I should hope I sound mature by now, I am nearly 40.

#219 to #216 - doubleac

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Aha I agree, I don't look for relationships at the moment, I have no need or desire to.
Plus I have to fix my own problems before I drag someone else into this life, so I can face what will then become," our problems". Don't worry about sounding mature, just be you :p *coming from a 17 year old who has been mistaken to be a 40 year old for various reasons*

#227 to #219 - whippersnapper

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I think you misunderstand what I am saying. I dont think you would agree if you understood.

Good idea to square your own life away before trying to share it though. I can tell you this, a relationship without loyalty is a crime that hurts a lot of people.

#265 to #227 - doubleac

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(06/15/2013) [-]

Maintaining a good healthy relationship between two people who know what they're worth, and make clear their boundaries. If one of those two people has lesser boundaries or aren't serious/loyal, then it's best to leave, because one shouldn't waste their time. Am i right?

I said that i don't want to get into a serious relationship for personal reasons, aha i wasn't very clear i study Theology of the Body by Pope JP2, and follow the basic rules that a relationship has to be four things: Free, Total, Faithful, and Fruitful.
I find so many teens break their hearts, and to me, this is a way to make life and searching for love more enjoyable.

#268 to #265 - whippersnapper

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Yes, I agree that you should not waste your time on a disloyal relationship and if you are not ready to be loyal you shouldn't waste anyone else time either. As for true commitment, it is entered freely but the entering of it is the very act of voluntarily forsaking certain freedoms, commitment is like a contract, you give up one thing to get another thing. Freedom is not for the sake of just having it any more than money is for the sake of just having a pocket full of paper, it is for spending, it is a currency. But when you buy something with it, you have chosen that that dollar will go to nothing else. The kind of person that buys a fifth avenue or a baby ruth and eats it, then reaches in the till and takes the dollar back and then goes to buy another store's candy, well we know what kind of a person that is. A lot of people today think loyalty and commitment are 'obsolete' and that it is better to just have flings then split up when it gets boring or challenging or requires that there be compromise, but the truth is that they are just being shallow and lazy and selfish. They will never experience the deepest and best and they will always have many bad consequences for treating people like pawns in their game.

Take care, vaya con DIOS

#192 to #188 - berentzen

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It's a ******* flower!

#198 to #192 - berentzen

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I'm ******* tired of ******** quotes and metaphor that cut reality as they want so that it matches in a ******* sentence to sound good and wise. Life isn't that easy to be handled by what other people said years ago.

#208 to #198 - doubleac

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In my opinion, life was a lot harder back then, and is still currently very difficult depending on which country and area of the world you live in.
Also, it's not like it's something that dies out, it gets passed on. I can't really see myself telling my kids," Hey don't listen to anyone cause there is nothing you can learn from them".
I think conversation is best, but when you're dealing with definitions you really can't be a relativist. I think there must be mutual ground, a place to start, in order to grow.

If not, you may end up a crazy old man with no friends

#204 to #198 - doubleac

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You replied to yourself?

#195 to #192 - doubleac

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It's an allegory!

#194 to #192 - anon id: c705f2bf

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It's a metaphor.