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#18 - zaphodcoolfrood (06/12/2013) [-]
Can someon please explain to me how the PS4 has "better technology" when
1)Essentially the same cpu
2) Admittedly PS4 had slightly better graphics card but that does not equate to better graphics.
3) Both play Blu-ray
4) Neither are backwards compatible
5) Both have USB 3.0
6) Both have motion capture (Playstation move not included in initial purchase, Kinect is)
7) Same hard drive space
8) Same A/v output though it looks like Ps4 will also have Component/RCA

To me it seems like they're relatively tied in technology. Microsoft just made some controversial decisions about how to handle some aspects of the console. Which could definitely come back to bite them.
User avatar #130 to #18 - blazingpelt (06/12/2013) [-]
1.8 TFlops vs. an expected 1.0 or 0.9 TFlops. That's not negligible, nor is the 2GB of extra RAM.
#98 to #18 - anonymous (06/12/2013) [-]
You are a brainwashed douchebag.
#95 to #18 - anonymous (06/12/2013) [-]
you just answered your own question. ps4 has a better gpu.
User avatar #94 to #18 - indecisivejew (06/12/2013) [-]
PS4 has a better GPU and more shader throughput, apparently. It basically just has the ability to give off more lighting effects and have more in game particles. Its not a huge difference, but neither was the difference between PS3 and 360, and the exclusives for PS3 did look a lot better than most stuff this gen.
User avatar #90 to #18 - somefunnyshitihope (06/12/2013) [-]
PS4 will be backwards compatible, including PS1 + PS2 games
#86 to #18 - anonymous (06/12/2013) [-]
Remove the Xbox One restrictions and Microsoft would win the race of consoles, but no one likes their new 'features' although they do have some nice one's the whole always connect to internet, no used games and we're always watching you have turned off many, many gamers.
#82 to #18 - anonymous (06/12/2013) [-]
the CPU is clocked slightly faster than the Xbox one at 1.9 GHz vs the 1.8 GHz

PS4 uses GDDR 5 vs DDR5 and memory, taking up less space, less heat, and allows for slightly faster performance

PS4 also will not have 3 operating systems take up 3 GB of memory, which the Xbox one has on reserve for a custom windows kernel, the xbox OS, and and OS type thing for them to communicate with eachother
#50 to #18 - theomegashade (06/12/2013) [-]
dude, can i just mention, majority of population = no fucks given about the kinect OR the playstation move. Personally, i reckon that if you want something like that, get a fucking wii or something. no hate or slander meant to either side, just saying, most people won't even buy/ use it in the first place
#45 to #18 - danzey (06/12/2013) [-]
Kinect isnt included in initial purchase, its forced, thats why xbox is £80 or $100 dearer
#48 to #45 - zaphodcoolfrood (06/12/2013) [-]
It's not forced. It's apart of the console now.
#136 to #48 - danzey (06/21/2013) [-]
Its still forced you buy their shitty motion capture by including it in the console, and its still the reason its £80 dearer
#21 to #18 - hellfiazz (06/12/2013) [-]
PS4 has 4K resolution capacity, and whilst initially games won't use this capability, it is estimated that in the future you will be able to play 4K games on the PS4.
#22 to #21 - zaphodcoolfrood (06/12/2013) [-]
They both have 4k support. Sorry shoulda mentioned that.
#19 to #18 - Powerbunny (06/12/2013) [-]
Maybe not better technology, but from what I understand, both consoles will have 8GB of RAM, although the Xbox has to devote 3GB of it to the running of its OS while the PS3 only has to devote 1GB. So you've got 2GB of extra RAM to play with. I could be incorrect and there might be more, but this is one of the differences that I've heard of.
User avatar #44 to #19 - chiktikkavaspaus (06/12/2013) [-]
But the XB1 is going to use the cloud to help stream games, so theoretically the amount of ram will only be limited by the power of your internet connection.
User avatar #105 to #44 - noket (06/12/2013) [-]
the amount of ram doesn't change because of this.. that would be like saying that if you have a pc with 8gb of ram and 1 tera HD, you have 1008gb of ram.. additional memory may help of course, but just slightly.. and it depends on many factors..
User avatar #109 to #105 - noket (06/12/2013) [-]
furthermore their goal with skydrive is to have everything synchronized: your pc, the box and your (hypotetical) windows phone.. i'm occasionally working for Nokia-Microsoft and during a meeting we had, their tutor explained to us this.. that want to have everything in sync.. like that you can use your Lumia as remote controller for the xbox, you can check your pc's documents on you Lumia and manage everything on your xbox or your lumia with you pc.. they want to make complete integration of all those things.. too back that this thing is backfiring at them, because first of all i don't fucking need everything to be constantly synchronized.. and this also waste your connection (on 3 devices), your battery on the phone and so.. Sure it might be a pretty good feature, but seriously.. most of the users don't want those things.. they want to play with xbox, call and instagram shit on their phones (no instagram on nokia though lol) and do all the other things on their pc..
User avatar #66 to #44 - thewaronbeingcool ONLINE (06/12/2013) [-]
But if a game requires the cloud then you have to have an internet connection all the time, rather than the once a day requirement the console has.

So it's even worse than the console's regular DRM.
User avatar #67 to #66 - chiktikkavaspaus (06/12/2013) [-]
Well obviously people should buy the console that best suits them. But if you have strong internet than theres nothing wrong with the XB1.
User avatar #68 to #67 - thewaronbeingcool ONLINE (06/12/2013) [-]
Well there is one thing wrong:

The servers wont be up forever, so you won't be able to go back and play the classics like you can do with old consoles nowadays.
User avatar #70 to #68 - chiktikkavaspaus (06/12/2013) [-]
I'm sure they'll shut off the always online feature when the next console is lined up. Theres enough ram to play the games even if they get better looking with the could. Just look at the 360, it only has 512mb of ram and it can display decent graphics.
User avatar #72 to #70 - thewaronbeingcool ONLINE (06/12/2013) [-]
I dunno... I really hope that's the case, but this is Microsoft we're talking about.

I mean, they've made software developers stop making their products XP compatible so they can force people to upgrade their OS.
User avatar #76 to #72 - chiktikkavaspaus (06/12/2013) [-]
But that's different. Why should developer's spend more time and money making a game compatible with an OS that's extremely outdated? It's just like when a new console generation starts. Why should Devs focus on the old console?

If they take off the always online deal at the end of the XB1's lifecycle, what's stopping you from playing the old games on your XB1? Of course they're going to stop making games for it eventually, but that's the way it's always been.
User avatar #88 to #76 - lizardnigger (06/12/2013) [-]
Because Microsoft XP is fucking glorious
User avatar #132 to #88 - chiktikkavaspaus (06/12/2013) [-]
Oh jeez, quit living in the past. XP WAS glorious, now Windows 7 is the best.
User avatar #77 to #76 - thewaronbeingcool ONLINE (06/12/2013) [-]
No no, I mean the developers were perfectly willing to make their software compatible with XP, and they could've done it easily.

But Microsoft forced them to not do it.
User avatar #79 to #77 - chiktikkavaspaus (06/12/2013) [-]
Even still though, it was time to upgrade. Devs just needed to be pushed a little bit. Games only get better through evolution so in the end, even if it was a douchie move by MS, it works out for gaming as a whole.
User avatar #81 to #79 - thewaronbeingcool ONLINE (06/12/2013) [-]
Yeah, but what if they don't make the Xbone offline compatible when they're done, to push people to get the next console?
User avatar #84 to #81 - chiktikkavaspaus (06/12/2013) [-]
Why would they leave it on? If I bought something I'd expect pull ownership in the end. That's why I like hard copies. This is microsoft we're talking about though I guess.
#25 to #19 - amazingman (06/12/2013) [-]
My bet is that they will both need (close to) the same amount of Ram dedicated to the OS because the PS4 can do the same things a XB1 can just Sony is advertising it. but we wont know until its confirmed so maybe i'm wrong just my thoughts.
#24 to #19 - anonymous (06/12/2013) [-]
And PS4 use DDR5 RAM while Xbox use DDR3, it doesn't make that much of a difference though.
#28 to #24 - anonymous (06/12/2013) [-]
Xbox one will be using DDR 3 and 8 Gigs of it, they have said little about their GPU which will have GDDR5 (most GPU's do) PS4 does not have Dedicated DDR only GDDR and will be using their GDDR for both graphics and memory. This to me shows that Xbox will have better overall memory at the end of the day.. but then they havn't said much about their GPU.
User avatar #35 to #28 - dafuqisdisshit (06/12/2013) [-]
They both are using a specially designed AMD Octo-Core APU.
#20 to #19 - zaphodcoolfrood (06/12/2013) [-]
The Xbox part of what you said I think was confirmed, but the Ps4 part is still rumor I think.
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