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#59 - beerholder
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(06/12/2013) [-]
I've lived my first 7 years in a communist country, and I assure you that both were right. They just made predictions on different systems.
User avatar #76 to #59 - rieskimo
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I'm an American and I'm not even sure what that would be like. We've been so saturated with anti-communist propaganda I have no idea what an actual communist country is like.
#85 to #76 - captainreposty [OP]
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(06/17/2013) [-]
There hasn't been a single authentic communist country since the very first civilisation.
Communism requires there be no state whatsoever.
Russia was stuck on the dictatorship of the proletariat, which was actually just totalitarianism.
I can imagine it being quite annoying having your government constantly bombard you with anti-enlightenment propaganda though.
Living in Manchester I'd say I've had the freedom of choice, to choose what something is for myself, but also had the elitist oppression hang over me as much as the rest of the world.

Watch the film "REDS" if you fancy a real inlook into communism. Seriously, it's such a good watch, but set yourself a night to watch it, and let us know what you think pal.
#77 to #76 - beerholder
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(06/12/2013) [-]
Basically all you had to do was to shut up and do what they told you. A lot of people say it wasn't all that bad, because everybody had a job and if you got married, the government also gave you a house and car. But in the need to supply work for all those people, the state had to create redundant industries, just for the sake of it. My dad worked at a steel mill in a town that was 150 km away from this huge steel factory. All they did was to make screws that were stored in the warehouse and got nowhere... they just rusted there because nobody needed them. Of course you would think that somebody would eventually take notice and do something, but they all referred to the first sentence of my post. In the end, because of that bad DJ 4DM1Nistration shortages began to appear, and all the economy collapsed. And when you got an empty stomach, you begin to think that maybe this life isn't what they said it was, and suddenly - revolution.

In the end, the communists didn't went that far as Orwell predicted, well maybe in Korea, who knows... But if they better DJ 4DM1Nistered the system, maybe it could. The problem is that all the heads of state in the communist countries weren't the most educated folk, leaders were elected by whoever had the biggest mouth and kissed the ass of the previous leader...

Anyway, I wouldn't go back to communism, no matter how bad Huxley's brave new world sounds like...
User avatar #78 to #77 - rieskimo
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Thank you for an honest look, I'm sure there are documentaries and videos available to me but it's hard to find through the BS.
#79 to #78 - beerholder
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nah, all documentaries are made on a "would you believe" type of view. They tend to overstate the lack of freedom, but people really had freedom back then, but it wasn't quite the concept of today. Back then, you could go to parties, could benefit a better job if you had the proper education, you could go on vacation if you wanted, but you couldn't complain about things. In the western vision of freedom, you can complain about things, but it's still a struggle to get a better job or plan time for vacations. It's strange how things work.