Money. Tits and chicken. The only difference between these two notes Is your belief that one has more value than the other Tag and Eia': are ' ll. Now this bad boy niggas be trippin
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#2 - asadffdsa (06/09/2013) [-]
Now this bad boy
User avatar #67 to #2 - foxxywithpaws ONLINE (06/10/2013) [-]
Is worth just as much.
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#139 to #65 - John Cena (06/10/2013) [-]
cunt
User avatar #159 to #65 - messerauditore (06/10/2013) [-]
We used to play with a "Jewish Banking Gnome" who would slip extra money to those he was allied with. We also used it in Life, and you could sell your kids for money. We're bad people.
User avatar #147 to #65 - theshadowed ONLINE (06/10/2013) [-]
Me too. The joys of being the banker
#225 to #161 - youxbarstard (06/10/2013) [-]
If that isn't the currency used in the after life I will be both happy and annoyed.
User avatar #283 to #72 - sinonyx (06/10/2013) [-]
holy **** this is revolutionary
instead of simply reposting frontpage content from the day before

use the frontpage content from the day before in the comments section!
#83 - crazyolitis (06/10/2013) [-]
TFW bankrupting your opponents in monopoly.
TFW bankrupting your opponents in monopoly.
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User avatar #86 to #85 - crazyolitis (06/10/2013) [-]
Why did you delete your comment?
#87 to #86 - yodaddysofat ONLINE (06/10/2013) [-]
I accidently replied to your comment instead of making a new one...
I accidently replied to your comment instead of making a new one...
#88 to #87 - crazyolitis (06/10/2013) [-]
No shame in that, buddy, although you have dishonored your family. You know the punishment.   
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No shame in that, buddy, although you have dishonored your family. You know the punishment.
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#98 to #83 - John Cena (06/10/2013) [-]
Fact:

Jews invented money to turn us into their slaves. By establishing banks, they can give loans. And by loans they can create temporary money out of nothing. After you payed back to the bank, you got to pay an additional interest - this is what the jew is after. He makes money, by temporary inventing an imaginary amount of money with no real value behind it. But he only gives you money if you give him a real value as security.
As long as you can pay back the jew he will gets his interest and if you cannot pay back he will keep the security - real hard property with value.
Jews accumulate interests and property untill they hold a monopoly over money, to control loans, currency, business and therfore our lifes.
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User avatar #96 to #83 - walkerjam (06/10/2013) [-]
Dammit, I always read that as [Jewing internally] at first.
#97 to #83 - threadcreator (06/10/2013) [-]
>buy boardwalk
>buy park place
>put 2 hotels on each
> ****** lands on one
>???
>profit (about $2000)
mfw I always win because of that process
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User avatar #289 to #251 - threadcreator (06/12/2013) [-]
I typically just buy it off of people if they don't completely know my strategy.
User avatar #18 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (06/10/2013) [-]
Lets go through a bit of history here

Originally, gold was used as proper currency, you traded gold for items and other things of value (when you didn't trade in other materials, that is). However, gold was very heavy to carry and it was expensive hiring people to guard it in high quantities, and so what ended up happening is people put all their gold in a secure vault, and a receipt was printed off for them, telling them how much gold they had in the vault, and then they just traded receipts. This is how paper money came into existence (fun fact: The vault mentioned prior was also the idea of the first bank)

However, what everyone seems to forget is that money is only worth the equivalent of grams in gold and other precious metals. So the question we have to ask is, how did gold and precious metals become valuable? You cannot eat them, you cannot use them for any form of practical working or sustenance (aside from a few crystals and metals used by mystics and some inventions), the only thing gold and precious metals are REALLY good for is looking pretty, and yet for some reason that became more important than actual living materials. Gold and those metals are literally only worth as much as you are willing to believe they are worth, and by extension, money follows the same principle. You believe a 100$ bill is worth 100$ because you are told it is, when in fact it's no different from any other bill with any different number or colour, and it's no different from a plain old number printed on cloth for that matter either.

So, the question we have to ask is "Why do so many people value pretty metals?"
#101 to #18 - John Cena (06/10/2013) [-]
Because gold is rare
User avatar #266 to #101 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (06/10/2013) [-]
And many things are even more rare, but we aren't using those for currency
#105 to #18 - John Cena (06/10/2013) [-]
We find it valuable because it is a non-renewable resource. It's hard to find in the first place and once you find it you can't get any more unless you find another spot to get some. The only reason we don't use something like oil for currency is because oil is more common. Therefore things like gold and gems are the logical choice.
User avatar #267 to #105 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (06/10/2013) [-]
But Gold is renewable. Everything that was made naturally on this planet is renewable in some way, shape, or form, it just takes a very long time to be made again
#121 to #18 - John Cena (06/10/2013) [-]
precious metals are rare,
reduced supply pushes up price for any good,
the value of essential goods like food fluctuates too violently as supply does,
money hasn't been valued in gold or silver in years.
User avatar #269 to #121 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (06/10/2013) [-]
Actually, gold is valued and has still been our main form of currency, except we just use the paper and bills to represent it
User avatar #146 to #18 - neokun (06/10/2013) [-]
Because it keeps the world going, if we were to lose our value in the metals then people wouldnt make jack **** to buy and sell.
User avatar #270 to #146 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (06/10/2013) [-]
No it doesn't. If we were to lose our interest in metals then people would find an interest in something else and we would trade that way
User avatar #274 to #270 - neokun (06/10/2013) [-]
Well still, how does it shock you that people would sell houses for pieces of paper? If that paper entitles you to even bigger houses or what ever you want.
User avatar #276 to #274 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (06/10/2013) [-]
Then just trade the house, cut out the middle man
User avatar #288 to #276 - neokun (06/11/2013) [-]
Its not just houses though. Its a way to figure out the worth of something. Its hard to buy an xbox game with something other than money
#155 to #18 - kez (06/10/2013) [-]
Gold is super unreactive. It wont evaporate away, it wont rust and deteriorate and it wont react and become bigger or smaller to anything they had at the time.

It was used because pretty much no matter what anyone at that time did to it, it wouldnt change.

So it was a constant, you have this much gold, you will keep this much gold until you spend some of it or give some away.

Where as all the other materials at the time, you have that much of that substance, 2 years later you have 80% of that substance. You just lost 20% your money to time.

That is why gold became so valuable. As well as its shiny and aesthetic look.
User avatar #271 to #155 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (06/10/2013) [-]
Eh, as useful as it is concerning machines and its practical nature (which isn't much, in the long run, but good for gold I suppose), most people don't look at that when buying or selling it, they just look at its beauty. What shocks me is people are willing to sell their own house and livelihood and other goods just so they can have some of this prettiness they will inevitably use as a paperweight
User avatar #167 to #18 - lamarisagoodname (06/10/2013) [-]
You also forget the fact that gold is very unreactive and won't rust or degrade over time. You might be pleased to watch this www.youtube.com/watch?v=toMRV4cq8MY
User avatar #272 to #167 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (06/10/2013) [-]
I already did, it's on my channel, although under a different name
User avatar #284 to #272 - lamarisagoodname (06/10/2013) [-]
I think we should focus more on the industrial applications of metals. Diamond is very useful in mining, and so it makes sense for it to be so expensive. Gold and silver are also very useful in electronics and wiring because they conduct electricity very effectively, and gold as a coin will not degrade over time like copper or nickel making it useful as currency
#66 to #18 - John Cena (06/10/2013) [-]
The banks also realised that they could give out these receipts in the form of credit and we now have a system all over the world where money is created out of nothing by banks and loaned at interest. In murica you only need to have 10% of the money you loan held in deposit. This is called the fractional reserve banking system. Its the reason we are all slaves to money and the reason we are all so easily controlled by this thing we call money which we give power to. Shame so many people are dying and starving and some even killing themselves simply because private corps like the "federal" reserve own us. This fractional reserve banking is also what your income tax is for. It pays the debt on the national currency given on loan at interest from the FED. Look it up all legit. maybe some of you may which to re-phrase or order or re-explain what ive just said but its all based in fact. anonfag
User avatar #118 to #66 - tealcanaan (06/10/2013) [-]
The use of credit and the borrowing consumerism system is what allowed and allows fo the post-industrial world to thrive........
User avatar #127 to #66 - tealcanaan (06/10/2013) [-]
Also the FED is like any other nation's economic agency without a union type currency, hey act as a mechanism to control inflation and to keep the economy somewhat regular.
It Buys and Sells federal bonds to enact faster or slower growth.
This is why England did not adopt the Euro.......
User avatar #154 to #127 - ennaburning ONLINE (06/10/2013) [-]
It's why Britain didn't adopt the Euro, not England
User avatar #256 to #154 - tealcanaan (06/10/2013) [-]
thanks
User avatar #73 to #66 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (06/10/2013) [-]
I know all that, if you look at my profile you will see two videos that detail exactly what you just spoke of

However, I'm speaking in a more 'spiritual' sense, as to, WHY we find it valuable
User avatar #223 to #18 - daentraya (06/10/2013) [-]
Because they're pretty, nice to work with and.. Pretty. Gold, silver and cobber also has more distinguishable colors than most other metals who are just silver and grey, so they work great as a trio
User avatar #29 to #18 - dwarfman (06/10/2013) [-]
For once someone with sense.
#82 to #18 - cabbagemayhem (06/10/2013) [-]
The real question you're going to ask, is why are so many people going to value something that has no existence in the physical realm, yet is tradable according to mathematics.
User avatar #264 to #82 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (06/10/2013) [-]
Eh, true. I guess my problem is just that many people see money and gold as a literal value of life itself, when value could be placed upon anything you find valuable
User avatar #125 to #82 - tealcanaan (06/10/2013) [-]
It's rare, a relatively large amount of people decided it was legitimate, there is a guaranteed limited amount so the value will no be lost......
User avatar #129 to #125 - cabbagemayhem (06/10/2013) [-]
It was a rhetorical question. I know the answer, and it's not rare.
User avatar #130 to #129 - tealcanaan (06/10/2013) [-]
Relative to other objects it is.
User avatar #131 to #130 - cabbagemayhem (06/10/2013) [-]
The exact opposite of what you said is true.
User avatar #132 to #131 - tealcanaan (06/10/2013) [-]
Really, explain it to me.
User avatar #134 to #132 - cabbagemayhem (06/10/2013) [-]
fractions
User avatar #135 to #134 - tealcanaan (06/10/2013) [-]
I get where your going, thanks for, i forgot that they where readily divisible.
User avatar #35 to #18 - MythBuster (06/10/2013) [-]
guy.. gold is used in almost any electronic device worth its salt. gold doesn't oxidize so it's used all the time. gold, silver, and copper aren't just "pretty" metals, they're the backbone of every electronic achievement in the past 100 years
User avatar #36 to #35 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (06/10/2013) [-]
Buddy, I already went through that. What I'm saying is that gold is not as valuable as we make it out to be, and by extension, neither is money
User avatar #43 to #36 - MythBuster (06/10/2013) [-]
gold isn't easy to mine in large quantities otherwise everyone would do it. gold has been a status symbol for thousands of years and it will continue to be until there comes a day when the average person can go in their backyard and mine a couple ounces.
User avatar #44 to #43 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (06/10/2013) [-]
Okay? I get that (even though we, in fact, DO have gold in large quantities. As a matter of fact we have as much gold that's worth all the money in the world, or at least all the legal money). And yes, I know gold has been that symbol for wealth for so many odd years, what I'm saying is that it shouldn't be due to the fact there are many better and more useful things than gold out there
User avatar #45 to #44 - MythBuster (06/10/2013) [-]
supply and demand, you could have this arguement about anything. it's the way human economy has existed for thousands of years.. in ww2, copper became more expensive than silver. most houses were wired with silver instead of copper and the pennies produced in ww2 were silver. after ww2, copper wasn't in high demand anymore so the price dropped and it was used in wiring and pennies again.
User avatar #46 to #45 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (06/10/2013) [-]
But gold ISN'T in demand. I have never once heard someone walk into a store to buy gold or other precious metals, the only time I HAVE seen it is either when they deal with such things (which goes back to 'why is it valuable?') or when they are buying jewellery (Which also goes back to 'why is it valuable?')
User avatar #51 to #46 - MythBuster (06/10/2013) [-]
it IS in demand, like i said, it's used in every phone, tv, and computer. and yes the jewelry aspect DOES make it worth more, it's a status symbol like i said before. supply and demand!! it represents wealth!! people don't walk around with gravel necklaces because anybody can go outside and grab a hand full of the **** . "For every 250 trucks containing 20 tons (18.14 metric tons) of rock and dirt extracted from the earth, miners can expect to find just about 0.7 ounces (20 grams) of gold" curiosity.discovery.com/question/why-is-gold-special
User avatar #54 to #51 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (06/10/2013) [-]
But like I said, most of it is only worth as much as you are willing to believe it is, that's the whole POINT of it being used as a symbol. Symbols are only given power by people who believe they are powerful, that's it.

What I'm saying is, the rarity of it should not be a point in its value at all, what we should be focused on is its use and practicality

(And yes, again, I understand it is in very many machines, but it is not in them in massive amounts, you only need small amounts per machine and even then they are often recycled and the gold is able to be used over)
User avatar #57 to #54 - MythBuster (06/10/2013) [-]
that doesn't make any sense.. if you're rich, you buy a Lamborghini.. it shows that you're rich. do you need a Lamborghini? no, probably not but it shows that you have money the same way that gold on your neck, wrist, and fingers shows wealth. A Lamborghini Murciélago costs $250,000+ with a top speed of around 200mph. a Dodge Challenger costs around $30,000+ and goes around 180mph.. is that 20mph difference really a $220k difference?? it's all about status brother
User avatar #58 to #57 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (06/10/2013) [-]
I know what it's about, but the whole point of 'status' doesn't make sense to me. The C.E.O. of that one gas company (can't remember the name) has a car with a solid white gold exterior. I just don't understand how people could validate themselves with something so worthless when they could, I don't know, help people, or invest, or even making a god damn bat cave, just ANYTHING that's even somehow practical
User avatar #59 to #58 - MythBuster (06/10/2013) [-]
but it's not worthless because if he gets sick of the car, even if no one will buy it, he can scrap the gold and sell that. if people will buy it, it's not worthless, it's quite the opposite
User avatar #60 to #59 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (06/10/2013) [-]
And it's only worth as much as people are willing to pay for it

And so we've come full circle
User avatar #61 to #60 - MythBuster (06/10/2013) [-]
but people are willing to pay a lot because it shows their wealth and it has for thousands of years so it will just continue to grow in value for the remainder of humans existence.. are too thick skulled to understand simple economics?? goodnight
User avatar #62 to #61 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (06/10/2013) [-]
No, but you are too thick-skulled to understand what I'm getting at

If everybody stopped buying gold, would it still be just as valuable? Of course not, they would drop the price. If more people bought gold, would it still be just as valuable? Of course not, they would raise the price. This in ITSELF proves that things are worth as much as you are willing to pay for them. If everybody stopped buying something, no matter how useful, practical, or pretty it was, it would be made awfully cheap very quickly, and vice versa with something worthless

I get the feeling you think I'm saying "Hurr-durr, butt it duh is all worffwess becuz pwice is made buy peepole, nut duh ting itsewf", but that's not what I'm trying to say, and if you would actually listen rather than assume I'm speaking literally we may actually get somewhere, now pay attention

Gold is a symbol of wealth, SYMBOL. SYYYYYMBOOOOOLE! That means that *gasp* it is not valuable in a literal sense, but 'MEANS' value and so it translates to value in itself. Kinda like how a nice fit suit looks good, despite the fact there are millions of others your size that you would probably like even more that are also cheaper.

This means if people STOPPED believed gold was a SYMBOL of wealth, it would no longer be considered 'wealth', thus it would be effectively 'worthless' (other than for practical means). You keep saying "well people are willing to pay, that means it's valuable" but it doesn't, it just means people BELIEVE it is valuable, so they pay a lot of money for it

Are you starting to see now?

Are you starting to realize we aren't speaking on the same level, thus you don't have to talk down to me as if I am a child?
User avatar #152 to #62 - MythBuster (06/10/2013) [-]
I see what you mean, hypothetically you are correct but literally speaking, gold will always be valuable. Gold, platinum, and diamonds have little practical use but to look pretty, they will always have great value because of the rarity and the aesthetics.
#47 to #18 - beanieman (06/10/2013) [-]
To answer your question: we value pretty metals because they stay pretty! precious metals do not rust, and they are very very unlikely to lose their value. Also it is highly unlikely that a vast source of readily available gold will be found so much so as to cause a dramatic drop in prices, in fact the production of gold has been falling for around a decade now, yet prices fluctuate this is because gold is traded like stock.   
   
unfortunately the US dollar, which is the basis of most world currencies and commodity trading is not backed in gold but backed by &quot;trust in God&quot;. The US only has about enough gold to back 75% of the $s currently in circulation. It does not have any capability to back the nearly $10 trillion total &quot;broad money&quot;. world wide there's about $65 trillion in broad money, and there is no way to back that up in precious metals. The point of all this is that we are not in a dream world where what we deposit in the bank for safekeeping is kept there with our name on it, its lent out by the banks who then make a profit off of your money. In fact it has been said that capitalism can be taken down if all of the citizens decided to get up one day and withdraw all the money in their chequing accounts, this would lead to a financial crises (since the banks have lent out more money than actually exists, and they don't necessarily have your money available at any given moment)   
   
   
The $100 dollar bill is worth nothing more than a wipe when your out of tp! where as gold has a lot more uses (electronics, surgical, satellites etc.)
To answer your question: we value pretty metals because they stay pretty! precious metals do not rust, and they are very very unlikely to lose their value. Also it is highly unlikely that a vast source of readily available gold will be found so much so as to cause a dramatic drop in prices, in fact the production of gold has been falling for around a decade now, yet prices fluctuate this is because gold is traded like stock.

unfortunately the US dollar, which is the basis of most world currencies and commodity trading is not backed in gold but backed by "trust in God". The US only has about enough gold to back 75% of the $s currently in circulation. It does not have any capability to back the nearly $10 trillion total "broad money". world wide there's about $65 trillion in broad money, and there is no way to back that up in precious metals. The point of all this is that we are not in a dream world where what we deposit in the bank for safekeeping is kept there with our name on it, its lent out by the banks who then make a profit off of your money. In fact it has been said that capitalism can be taken down if all of the citizens decided to get up one day and withdraw all the money in their chequing accounts, this would lead to a financial crises (since the banks have lent out more money than actually exists, and they don't necessarily have your money available at any given moment)


The $100 dollar bill is worth nothing more than a wipe when your out of tp! where as gold has a lot more uses (electronics, surgical, satellites etc.)
User avatar #49 to #47 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (06/10/2013) [-]
Haha, thank you very much for the knowledge, but the question was not a practical one

I understand why people value these metals and have prices on them, but I don't understand why something must become expensive just because it looks pretty or is rare, especially considering when their uses are very limited

I would much rather have Subway Sandwhiches by my currency (you know, all rotting and other people's horrible taste in sandwhiches aside)
#53 to #49 - beanieman (06/10/2013) [-]
totally get you bro, I hit you with the knowledge because of you said every dollar is worth its weight in gold.
the system your referring to is called the barter trade system, it was quite popular until banking became common. In that you give me what I don't have in exchange for what you don't have, and the precious metals are used for large trades, or trades occurring over long distances. Say you grow grain, I raise cattle, we will trade instead of each purchasing from a third party who would charge for simply being the link.
This is how our forefathers in the stone age did business and this is how its still done in many many parts of the third world.
User avatar #55 to #53 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (06/10/2013) [-]
That makes a lot of sense, and I understand quite perfectly, but if that was the case, gold (and even money, in massive amounts) is still quite heavy. If we made barters like this, shouldn't we use something even more light-weight and accessible? I mean, it kind of defeats the purpose of using something to represent vast amounts of money when you must use vast amounts of money to attain it
User avatar #150 to #55 - NinjaHermit (06/10/2013) [-]
Yeah, but historically not everyone used gold. In different times and places things like shells, beads, pelts, rice, salt, etc were also used as currency.
User avatar #263 to #150 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (06/10/2013) [-]
That's true
#48 to #18 - John Cena (06/10/2013) [-]
Well gold is one of the most stable metals and hardly reacts so it doesn't oxidize and **** . Its also a super duper electroconducter so like crazy high tech machines sometimes use it. Its also very malleable so jewelry seems cool to make.

Idk why those **** face caveman ******* would like gold though
User avatar #50 to #48 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (06/10/2013) [-]
Well I know gold does have practical use, but it is still very limited and we do not require much to run machines. Most of the value placed upon it is placed upon the beauty of it alone, evidenced by the fact is was used as currency long before the modern age
User avatar #89 to #18 - thesovereigngrave (06/10/2013) [-]
Because it's rare. If something common and easy to find were used it'd cause inflation because there'd be more of it.

Or so I think. I'm not really an expert on this subject.
User avatar #265 to #89 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (06/10/2013) [-]
Eh, inflation doesn't really matter either in the grand scheme of things. Say everything was traded in fluff, very light, easy to carry around and protect, everyone could get some. If it was very easy to attain and everyone did so, causing inflation, you could just raise the price of 'fluff' it costs to buy something. Problem solved
User avatar #275 to #265 - thesovereigngrave (06/10/2013) [-]
You mean like in Germany after WWI, where a loaf of bread was 200 billion marks?

It's not that simple, if it was inflation wouldn't be an issue.
User avatar #277 to #275 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (06/10/2013) [-]
But they also didn't have the marks to pay for it. What I'm saying is, if we have a lot of easy currency, such as fluff or dirt, things could be stupidly expensive and it would still be fine
User avatar #278 to #277 - thesovereigngrave (06/10/2013) [-]
If it's so easily available, then people selling things would increase the prices up incredibly high. There's no guarantee that you will have enough. If you can just go out and easily get a bunch of it, then merchants would see no issue with selling you something for a price that is ludicrously high, due to the ease with which you can obtain it.
User avatar #279 to #278 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (06/10/2013) [-]
But it would still be relatively the same as if you were using something rare and the prices were lower. The only difference being you don't have to spend nearly as much money as you would mining into the earth in order to get gold
User avatar #280 to #279 - thesovereigngrave (06/10/2013) [-]
Actually, I don't think so. Imagine buying a car using just gold bars. Yeah, it's going to be a lot of gold bars, but it's still imaginable. Now take the value of, I don't know, I'll go with dirt like you said earlier. Take the value of dirt, and try and imagine the mindboggingly huge pile of dirt it would take to equal the value of a car.

Rare things are worth more than common things, so you don't need as much. I think that's at least part of it.
User avatar #281 to #280 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (06/10/2013) [-]
Ya, I suppose you're correct. Still, surely there must be something better to trade than gold...
User avatar #282 to #281 - thesovereigngrave (06/10/2013) [-]
I know Aluminum used to be more valuable, since it used to be rarer. And salt was pretty valuable too.

There's also silver and platinum. But they're valuable for the same exact reason gold is, so I don't think that helps.
#70 to #18 - urbemarmis (06/10/2013) [-]
well actually the currency system is a more efficient way of making transactions than the bartering system. whens the last time you were able to accurately tell how many goats a cow is worth? and salt was used to pay for things in ancient civilizations (thats where we get the term salary from. "sal" is latin for salt) and is still used in some cases today.
User avatar #74 to #70 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (06/10/2013) [-]
True, but using that same logic, how do people determine the prices on foodstuffs or electronics or other things?
#75 to #74 - urbemarmis (06/10/2013) [-]
people started trading and after a while prices either set themselves or a government said "this is worth this much" thats my guess anyway. money is more convenient than having to carry around chickens anyway. even paper money was made because of convenience. its all a game of lightening the load on someone looking to buy
User avatar #76 to #75 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (06/10/2013) [-]
I know, but I'm not asking why we have money or why we buy with gold, I'm asking why gold IS considered as valuable as it is, when there are clearly other things more practical and useful
#77 to #76 - urbemarmis (06/10/2013) [-]
its pretty, and rare enough to be used as something to trade.
User avatar #169 to #18 - glasgowrangers (06/10/2013) [-]
Hmmm

People value these metals because they can't be manipulated. Governments just can't introduce piles of new gold at a whim

Also, to say these metals are just "pretty" is wrong. Gold, what i am led to believe, is a great tool in things like medicine. Even in engineering i've seen it have a lot of applications

And take Diamonds (although, i accept not a "metal" but can still come into the same category). Diamond has literally millions of applications

But the main reason why these "pretty" metals are better for currency is that their value is not dictated by who is in charge at the time
User avatar #273 to #169 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (06/10/2013) [-]
But the government HAS introduced new piles of 'gold' at a whim. That's why the first banks were destroyed and the first bankers were beheaded, because they realized so few people ever took out their gold, they ended up making receipts for gold they didn't have, and charged interest on it. Essentially, they made real money off of 'Monopoly' money.

People don't think about the usefulness of these precious metals when buying and selling (unless they are buying it for that exact purpose), they just think of how good it looks. Besides, gold was used as a currency long before the modern industrial ages came around

Yes they are, prices raise and lower all the time, jewellery shops are no different
User avatar #287 to #273 - glasgowrangers (06/11/2013) [-]
then they used the receipts as money and not the gold
#26 to #18 - jakeattack (06/10/2013) [-]
because back then without modern day technology for finding gold, it was quite rare. anything that is rare and also greatly distinguishable, such as its shininess, is valuable to humans. the reason for that is the simple fact that ive found to be true in many circumstances, humans want what they can't have.
User avatar #30 to #26 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (06/10/2013) [-]
I know that, we wouldn't have this problem in the first place if we could easily control our impulses. I'm just asking WHY it's considered valuable, and if we could somehow reverse this and go back to, oh, I don't know, food or something
#32 to #30 - jakeattack (06/10/2013) [-]
maybe. but does it matter? because the whole idea of currency is for alleviating the difficulties with trading. its like if you pay for a sheep with some gold or paper or whatever, its more the idea that you are giving, that money can be turned into anything that the seller needs. like food, or anything else. its more the idea that is valuable. although the whole wanting what we cant have. its not just impluses. ive given alot of thought to it, its more the whole reason we are where we are today. a defining characteristic of being human is striving for something. we cant have peace, so we strive for it, we cant have a perfect world, due to the mere fact that we ARE human, so we strive for it. and that lack of being okay were we are is what leads to success. things like we cant get to mount everest. so someone strives for it, they said we couldnt reach the moon, and so you might think, wht is the point? its just a rock! (of course there is science but thats another story). its a limit its a goal, its somthing to surpass, all becuase it is somthing that we cant normaly achive.
User avatar #34 to #32 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (06/10/2013) [-]
That's true, and if that was the case I would absolutely support it, but it gets ridiculous and even frightening when people kill over money, or are willing to jeopardize the country or the world over money. I believe in striving, determination, and how conflict makes us stronger more than any other person I know, but sometimes we really do just have to step back and ask ourselves exactly WHAT it is we are striving for, or striving against, or why we are doing it. I mean, at no point in a dictatorship does a police officer detaining civilians ask "Do I really care so much about money, which is only worth as much as I really want it to worth, more than the lives of these people who would probably make our society better?", all they say is "Just doing my job to get paid"
#39 to #34 - jakeattack (06/10/2013) [-]
damn man, but the problem is our desire is greater than our compassion sometimes. i think greed literally blocks out logical thinking AND emotional components in our brain sometimes
User avatar #40 to #39 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (06/10/2013) [-]
Probably. That's not to say Greed is so bad, I'm all for people getting what they work for and leaving parasites, moochers, and slackers in the dust, it's just when you gain things off the back of another that I have a problem with
#42 to #40 - jakeattack (06/10/2013) [-]
yeah, like i said its a drive to something better. but it can block out things. everything must be in a balance, an equilibrium, just as nature itself finds a natural balance, so must we.
User avatar #195 to #42 - bananza (06/10/2013) [-]
Well said
#90 to #39 - skaffanl (06/10/2013) [-]
I philosophize a lot and here's my opinion on the matter:   
   
Everything we are came to be because of external impulses. This begins from birth and ends at death. People who are greedy chose to be, but they chose to be because of earlier external impulses in which they had made a choice as well. People are formed in a 			******		 up world so I wonder if it´s so strange that many people are 			******		 up. I despise people who say: &quot;If I would´ve lived his life I would've never have done something that terrible!&quot; Because it is impossible to be 100% or even 50% emphatic. Living another life is the same as becoming an other man because you became who you are through your life, your experiences, your thoughts and your choices. If you take these away and replace them, you take away you and another person would take its place.
I philosophize a lot and here's my opinion on the matter:

Everything we are came to be because of external impulses. This begins from birth and ends at death. People who are greedy chose to be, but they chose to be because of earlier external impulses in which they had made a choice as well. People are formed in a ****** up world so I wonder if it´s so strange that many people are ****** up. I despise people who say: "If I would´ve lived his life I would've never have done something that terrible!" Because it is impossible to be 100% or even 50% emphatic. Living another life is the same as becoming an other man because you became who you are through your life, your experiences, your thoughts and your choices. If you take these away and replace them, you take away you and another person would take its place.
User avatar #91 to #90 - skaffanl (06/10/2013) [-]
Oh I forgot the point in all of it. I think that:

People choose desires over compassion. I do agree though that greed can block out logical thinking because greed is like Darth Nihilus from KOTOR2; The more you feed it the more you need it.
#290 to #91 - jakeattack (06/12/2013) [-]
Lol I remember that game! Really fun except I don't remember that concept lol. Loved it though would want to see a legit reboot not the silly online one
#107 to #90 - John Cena (06/10/2013) [-]
STU KID DEE CISIONS-- ONES WITH MADE UP STORIES ABOUT THE REAL WIFE,/ HOW AWFUL SHE EAS TO MAKE YOUR CHEATING VALIDATING $$$ LIKE WHEN U WERE A LID && MOMMY DIDNT HAVE TIME FIR MIDDLE.CHILD, GO OUT, BLAH BLAJ, DINA SAID SHES DEAD TO U ALSO, U SAID TOO- VOICE/ WATCHERS. $$$$ FOOD SHOP ON 1.50 EVERY 2 WEEKS / LEGAL TALLIED ALL FUNNY JUNKS $$$ MINE
User avatar #119 to #30 - tealcanaan (06/10/2013) [-]
Food is more easily made there fore giving it a continually diminishing value, so no-one would use it.
User avatar #260 to #119 - captainfuckitall ONLINE (06/10/2013) [-]
I know, I'm just saying if we're trying to act in place of convenience, just get something cheap to represent high prices and value
User avatar #261 to #260 - tealcanaan (06/10/2013) [-]
In a perfect world all would have their fill with out the run around of acquiring a means for sustenance.
#213 - I Am Monkey (06/10/2013) [-]
Yes, we should abandon physical currency and return to bartering.
User avatar #254 to #213 - waffies (06/10/2013) [-]
I heard it in Rolfs voice, and then heard "No?! Yes?!? HMMMM?!?!?" at the end....
#3 - weetikveel (06/10/2013) [-]
The root of all evil
User avatar #12 to #3 - gidmp (06/10/2013) [-]
that +4 has weaken more relationship than London-Dipole bond
#64 to #3 - darrensankari (06/10/2013) [-]
I beg to differ...
#80 to #3 - mathcow (06/10/2013) [-]
Oh you're only 1 card away from winning? Not if I +4 you, faggot.
#227 to #80 - zsabber (06/10/2013) [-]
0-7, mate... 0-7....

We usually play a game of 0-7, jump-in and rainbow-jump-in.

A rainbow jump is something we came up with as we played, though some people may have invented it before us as the idea isn't difficult to come up with.

A rainbow-jump-in is when you have four colors of the same card and play four of them at once. you can either do it when it is your turn or play it when it is jump-in legal.
#93 - slyve ONLINE (06/10/2013) [-]
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2tKg3E53DM

Just felt this was relevant. If you don't agree, you should still take the time to watch this video since it's awesome and you will regret it if you don't.
User avatar #233 to #93 - babynoms (06/10/2013) [-]
I was going to link to that video, myself.
#92 - John Cena (06/10/2013) [-]
I'm Scottish and I had a group of rich Cubans come into my restaurant for dinner. After they payed, the man took out a massive cigar and handed me a $100 bill for a gratuity. I literally creamed myself - I had no practical use of this note than to take it to my bank and have it converted to pounds yet I was still fascinated by it.
#102 to #92 - John Cena (06/10/2013) [-]
You should have converted it into gold. Gold is a worldwide currency, your national currency aint one. Thats why jews invest in gold. They raise a country and let it go bankrupt - but their exploited gold remains intact.
#116 to #102 - John Cena (06/10/2013) [-]
You are a dumb ************ , what is this Germany circa 1920?
#126 to #116 - John Cena (06/10/2013) [-]
If you are from the US, you are 1920. Enjoy you Black Tuesday. Go bless jew.
User avatar #78 - srapture (06/10/2013) [-]
I'm not sure about $, but England's £ notes aren't made of paper, whereas the Monopoly money is.
User avatar #79 to #78 - toughactintinactin (06/10/2013) [-]
Canadian $ notes are a polymer, American $ notes are paper still i think.
User avatar #114 to #79 - rieskimo (06/10/2013) [-]
American bills are composed of mostly linen and cotton. There isn't really any paper.
User avatar #115 to #114 - toughactintinactin (06/10/2013) [-]
I'm Canadian so i was just guessing, wasn't trying to insult Americans or something...
User avatar #117 to #115 - rieskimo (06/10/2013) [-]
I don't take any offence. I'm just simply sharing knowledge. It was on an episode of "How It's Made"(a Canadian show I believe) which is my favorite show.
User avatar #120 to #117 - toughactintinactin (06/10/2013) [-]
Just didn't want people taking it the wrong way ahaha. "How it's Made" is Canadian I'm fairly certain, it is an awesome show too.
User avatar #122 to #120 - rieskimo (06/10/2013) [-]
God, you're so Canadian.
User avatar #94 to #79 - sketchE (06/10/2013) [-]
clothe
User avatar #81 to #79 - generaljosh (06/10/2013) [-]
I believe it is paper, but it's treated with very specific chemicals
User avatar #128 to #81 - rieskimo (06/10/2013) [-]
It's not treated with chemicals so much as there are specific types of fibers mixed in to a very exacting amount. That as well as heat-sensitive ink, micro-printing(you can see little words of "five" printed on the $5 note if you look in a microscope for example), watermarks, and UV sensitive ribbons. It's probably more expensive to print a note than the note is actually worth.
#84 to #78 - bobfaget (06/10/2013) [-]
Its not really paper, its more cloth.
#226 - whenyoudieyoudie (06/10/2013) [-]
Monopoly, what fond memories
User avatar #160 - errdayimfjing (06/10/2013) [-]
Here's a riddle for you guys:

A man pushed his car to a hotel and lost a fortune. What happened?
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#196 to #160 - jinapayne (06/10/2013) [-]
isded
#240 to #160 - John Cena (06/10/2013) [-]
He got married.
User avatar #168 to #160 - spanishninja (06/10/2013) [-]
damn expensive hookers
#163 to #160 - John Cena (06/10/2013) [-]
Did he get shot in the dick?
User avatar #165 to #163 - errdayimfjing (06/10/2013) [-]
close
#162 to #160 - John Cena (06/10/2013) [-]
Landed on someone elses property on monopoly.
User avatar #171 to #160 - xenoquack (06/10/2013) [-]
The hotel manager came out and farted in his mouth. The man exploded into sausages.
User avatar #285 to #242 - xenoquack (06/11/2013) [-]
That's beautiful.
#286 to #285 - bknob (06/11/2013) [-]
Comment Picture
#174 - fourthusername (06/10/2013) [-]
"your belief" more like everyone beliefs based on an established system of trade.
User avatar #180 to #174 - schneidend ONLINE (06/10/2013) [-]
Right, and it only has value as long as the government can be trusted to back it and take measures to ensure its value. I.E., as long as we believe the dollar has value, it has value. It's value is temporary, as any number of things could happen to make the world consider it absolutely worthless.
#28 - houseofbrick (06/10/2013) [-]
I have 3 dollar bills with &quot;Are You Misha Collins?&quot; written on them. Who is Misha Collins, what &quot;viral&quot; marketing campaign is this and why are they getting away with defacing currency?   
   
gif unrelated, it's just to get your attention.
I have 3 dollar bills with "Are You Misha Collins?" written on them. Who is Misha Collins, what "viral" marketing campaign is this and why are they getting away with defacing currency?

gif unrelated, it's just to get your attention.
#33 to #28 - rakuraimasuta (06/10/2013) [-]
just google it
#37 to #33 - houseofbrick (06/10/2013) [-]
I did, but I don't understand why fans of this person are doing this and I was hoping FJ had an explanation.
#100 to #37 - John Cena (06/10/2013) [-]
source of that pic is Toaru Kagaku no Railgun, a spinoff/prequel/sidestory to To Aru Majutsu No Index
#38 to #37 - rakuraimasuta (06/10/2013) [-]
I dunno because of supernatural I guess
#294 to #28 - clockworkhearts (10/18/2013) [-]
And now, several months later
#41 to #28 - imonaboatman (06/10/2013) [-]
Misha Collins is Castiel from Supernatural. He is pretty damn beautiful, but all these fan girls like those are annoying as **** .
#253 - strictlycommenting (06/10/2013) [-]
I lost a friend and I didn't even start the game, we just argued about who kept the dog.
+4
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User avatar #255 to #239 - thenameschuck (06/10/2013) [-]
Bitch Board walk and park place with 4 houses is kill
+3
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User avatar #221 - daentraya (06/10/2013) [-]
That's what i find amazing about our currencies. It literally has no value (maybe a little bit since it's quite pretty and all) but the fact that we give it value, and regulate how much of it is circulating. Reminds me of all those nutty conspiracy theorists who thinks that the great crash was deliberately done. But since its about people, greed and money, i will give it a small chance of likelyhood
#224 to #221 - swooz (06/10/2013) [-]
our money gets its value from the amount of gold the U.S had
User avatar #231 to #224 - edgecution (06/10/2013) [-]
well it did. now we just print it without regard for any actual value we have.
User avatar #229 to #224 - ludislavonac (06/10/2013) [-]
No it doesn't, the gold standard was abandoned during the great crisis in the 30's
User avatar #235 to #224 - daentraya (06/10/2013) [-]
That is the funniest thing i have read this far on fj, but it is also the first post of my day
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