Title. Not OC. I figured out the ending to M. you hem everywhe thinks that the Top is his totem but in the beginning he mentions that its actually Malt? Well. y Title Not OC I figured out the ending to M you hem everywhe thinks that Top is his totem but in beginning he mentions its actually Malt? Well y
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> hey anon, wanna give your opinion?
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User avatar #3 - awildniglet
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Wow, thank you for figuring this out 3 years later
#9 to #3 - johnpoppy
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It's still wrong though.
User avatar #30 to #9 - pheonixrevolver
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care to explain love?
User avatar #157 to #30 - umzar
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Can't tell if red fest of green fest
User avatar #39 to #30 - sepheroth
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Well, it's like a normal physical interest, with way more involved in an emotional level. People experiencing it will usually do just about anything for the other.
#35 to #30 - johnpoppy
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In the movie Mal was right all along. He said they were experimenting with MULTIPLE layers of dreams. When they were in Limbo they killed themselves, that moved them up a layer. When Mal then killed herself she went up another layer. The guy stayed though because he thought that they were out. The entire movie he was in a dream.
User avatar #37 to #35 - weldi
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proof?
#38 to #37 - johnpoppy
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Watch the movie. At the start when the guy gets shot he moves one layer up, like Mal and Cobb should have. (Sorry I can't seem to remember their names.)
#60 to #38 - anon id: d4b0a56d
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no no no this is so wrong you didnt get it watch it again
#61 to #60 - johnpoppy
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In which way is it wrong? After I came to this conclusion I watched it again, everything seemed to fit that theory. Describe what is wrong.
#67 to #61 - anon id: d4b0a56d
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A quick summary -The very beginning of the movie is the end of the movie -The entire middle section is a flashback leading up to the events at the beginning -Cobbs totem is Mal's top as far as I know the ring is just speculation because the definition of a totem in the movie is something you always have with you in real life (the ring isnt always with him in real life only in the dream) -Cobb and friends go into 3 layers and then a fourth being limbo -Van layer, Hotel layer, Snowy layer, Limbo -In the movie killing yourself moves yourself up a layer or wakes you up if there is only one layer
-due to being heavily sedated though cobb and friends go to limbo when they die
-limbo is slightly different though, instead of moving up a layer of dreaming when killing yourself you wake up to the real world -however once you are in limbo you begin to believe that it is reality( and go crazy), this is what happened to Mal
-Cobb planted the idea in her mind that limbo wasnt actually reality
#70 to #67 - anon id: d4b0a56d
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-this carried with mal into the real world so that she believed she needed to kill herself again to wake up, not knowing they were already in reality
-Mal ignores her totem even though it tells her she is in reality and kills herself for good
-Cobb is left behind as a wanted criminal
#68 to #67 - johnpoppy
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But there's no evidence to suggest that when you die in Limbo you wake in the real world. At the end when the woman jumps off the building in Limbo she wakes a layer up, not at the start.
#75 to #68 - anon id: d4b0a56d
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Forgot about her, but you know that Saito (the asian guy) doesnt return to the snowy level like the girl did because that layer (and all the others) have been destroyed. instead he returns to the plane immediately (which in your theory is also in a dream). I would assume this happened to Mal and Cobb, the layers above Limbo have been destroyed due to them being in there for so long and they would return to the real world. The totem also works in the "real" world but not in the layers they visited. So if the real world was a dream how would the totem work in it but not other dream layers below it?
#85 to #75 - johnpoppy
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The totem that Cobb has doesn't work. The idea of the totem is that there is something special about it that makes you know whether or not you're in someone else's dream.
For example, the weighted dice. In someone else's dream the dice would always roll a random number, as a normal dice should. But since it's weighted it should always land on the same number in the "Real". If it lands on a random number it's someone else's dream. Therefore Cobb's totem doesn't work because a normal person would assume that it would fall, thus making it fall in their dream.

The snowy layer didn't get "Destroyed", it became deconstructed dream space. Limbo. So when Cobb and Saito returned they subconsciously recreated the "Real" world as they would assume it to be. Thus making it another dream.
#137 to #85 - sonicserver
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maybe you're in limbo right now.

maybe we all are.
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#167 to #3 - anon id: 43924684
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Well it bothered me until this day
User avatar #231 to #3 - tls
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....Christ has it really been three years already?
User avatar #236 to #3 - aviatrix
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This post is by no means recent or original.
User avatar #8 to #3 - andywazowski
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AND, this was a very popular analysis of the movie when it first came out, so he didn't even figure it out himself either.

So done.
User avatar #11 to #3 - jamieswhiteshirt
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You mean: Thank you for REPOSTING this 3 years later
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User avatar #239 to #20 - mrgoodlove
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Dammit... I'll never catch up at this rate
#248 to #20 - miscarriage
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User avatar #21 to #20 - namehasntbeentaken
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Cause people are just figuring this stuff out!
#23 to #21 - anon id: 811cb158
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Except they aren't I saw a similar post (though not the same one) a couple months after inception came out which said the same thing. Nothing new here :|
#56 - defacedcreeper
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>2013
>still haven't watched inception
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User avatar #152 to #56 - anonymoose
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Don't. It's ****.
User avatar #194 to #152 - drunkasaurus
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It's one of the best movies I've ever seen... Why didn't you like it?
User avatar #200 to #194 - brutallyhonest
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Because he doesn't follow the 'mainstream opinion.'
User avatar #203 to #200 - anonymoose
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I don't like it because I felt the entire movie was just trying to confuse its audience and failing to do so.
User avatar #196 to #194 - anonymoose
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I found it so boring and uninterestingly dull. What about it was good?
User avatar #201 to #196 - drunkasaurus
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The acting was great, the special effects were incredible, the characters were explored in depth, and the story was unique and interesting to me. I was never bored because I wanted to know more about the dream sharing technology. It reminded me of Videodrome and Existenz which are classic sci-fi movies involving false realities.
User avatar #202 to #201 - anonymoose
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Granted the special effects were incredible, but everything else seemed identical to how Southpark put it: www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cineVP_slE
User avatar #204 to #202 - drunkasaurus
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The movie wasn't that complicated though. It all made sense to me the first time I watched it, just requires a little bit of thinking. If you want a confusing ******* movie watch Tree of Life, that **** made no sense at all.
User avatar #205 to #204 - anonymoose
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I never found it complicated, but I feel they tried to make a movie that was really complicated for the sake of confusing people and failed to do so.
User avatar #206 to #205 - drunkasaurus
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I don't think it was supposed to be complicated, they explained how everything worked and the logic was consistent throughout the movie. Almost everyone loves Inception, hence your downthumbs. I don't think you were too stupid to understand the movie, but clearly the plot didn't interest you for some reason. That's fine, but I'd advise against telling people that it's a **** movie, because that's just a flat out lie. In my opinion it's the best movie of this decade.
User avatar #207 to #206 - anonymoose
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I'm free to express my opinion and I'll gladly do so, red thumbs mean nothing to me. To me it's one of the most over-rated movies in history.
User avatar #232 to #207 - infinitereaper
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You've never ever lucid dreamed have you?

n00b
User avatar #89 to #56 - berkut
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I haven't watched inception.
#76 to #56 - anon id: b772d462
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it is over rated
#79 to #56 - richiehf
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**richiehf rolled a random image posted in comment #89 at Teddy Bears **



Same here..
User avatar #104 to #56 - RisenLichen
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Haven't even touched that movie yet
User avatar #63 to #56 - existacne
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Torrents are >that> way.
User avatar #71 to #63 - rhiaanor
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the gay way you mean...
User avatar #213 to #71 - myrtille
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what does that even mean?
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#24 - lolfire
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......no, not really.    
   
He can take Mal's because he knows the weight and action of the totem.    
He can't use his ring because in reality and dreams he wears it. There is no definable action of the ring. It doesn't spin, it doesn't fall in a specific way.    
   
The reason you know he is awake is because his children are wearing different shoes at the final scene. In his dreams they always wear the same things, he can't imagine them wearing anything else. So the change of clothes proves reality.    
Also, the end of the film is the only time the totem semi-tilts while spinning. In every other scene it spins perfectly, it doesn't slow or lean. At the end it slows and leans, so therefore reality.
......no, not really.

He can take Mal's because he knows the weight and action of the totem.
He can't use his ring because in reality and dreams he wears it. There is no definable action of the ring. It doesn't spin, it doesn't fall in a specific way.

The reason you know he is awake is because his children are wearing different shoes at the final scene. In his dreams they always wear the same things, he can't imagine them wearing anything else. So the change of clothes proves reality.
Also, the end of the film is the only time the totem semi-tilts while spinning. In every other scene it spins perfectly, it doesn't slow or lean. At the end it slows and leans, so therefore reality.
User avatar #31 to #24 - AdminsGayLover
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And even in the off chance it isn't reality, he would eventually have realized the totem is spinning and capped himself.
#40 to #24 - tehavatar
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or hes goes into dreamception and the totem will fall in his dreams as well.   
also, you can dream up different clothes, so that doesnt necessarily prove anything, like mal wasnt wearing the same clothes in every dream, was she?   
just saying if he wasnt working on a new quantum physics movie, Christopher Nolan might develop a similar story for a sequel where he was dreaming.
or hes goes into dreamception and the totem will fall in his dreams as well.
also, you can dream up different clothes, so that doesnt necessarily prove anything, like mal wasnt wearing the same clothes in every dream, was she?
just saying if he wasnt working on a new quantum physics movie, Christopher Nolan might develop a similar story for a sequel where he was dreaming.
User avatar #41 to #40 - lolfire
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The totem can't fall in the dream because it's a physical object from the real world. The totem is the only constant link to the real world. If the totem could fall into a dream then there would be no way in knowing if any of the movie is real. It could all be a dream. With Dom not even having a wife or kids or any of it.
Mal is always wearing what Dom remembers.
The house, the hotel, everything. He builds his dreams on memory so he cannot create new clothing and situations. Everything takes place in the "dream prison" he built.

#42 to #41 - tehavatar
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I'm not saying that it's absolute that the totem means nothing, but maybe cobb has somehow gotten around it.
#50 to #24 - anon id: 0cd601e0
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wouldn't his kids be grown up because he was gone for several years. Honestly, he's gone for a long time and when we returns, his kids are around the same age, obviously a dream, bro.
User avatar #78 to #50 - thundagawd
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He explains early on that time in a dream passes roughly 20 times slower than it does in the real world, and this increases exponentially the more layers there are in a dream. The 50 years he spent with Mal in limbo amounted to only 3 hours when they had finally woken up.

Also, if you look carefully during the credits, there are in fact 2 sets of actors who portrayed his children, and upon further inspection, the actresses that played his daughter were 3 and 5 years old, and the actors that played his son were 1.5 and 3.5 years old, so his children DID actually age during the time he wasn't with them, it's just that most of his life between those 2 points were spent in dreams, so not as much time passes as you would have assumed.
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User avatar #72 to #24 - mrbuu
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no the reason he can't use the totem is mal invades any dream he is in and tells them **** and would thus ruin the totem. the totem is used as a distraction from his real totem, a simple ring.

look at the guy in berlin who was smuggling bikes,but always came with a bag of sand. the guards would cut it open and check it and let him go on. distract people from the real problem.
#80 to #24 - yomommabinshoppin
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You can too spin a ring, and keep in mind that one of the used a chess piece as their totem, and you can't spin a chess piece
User avatar #81 to #80 - lolfire
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The chess piece falls on a specific side. As seen in the film while Arianna is making it. That's why she's drilling it.
He never did spin the ring though, so we cannot assume that it has a specific function, ruling it out as a totem.
#82 to #81 - yomommabinshoppin
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I refer you to comment #72, stating that the ring is the real totem, and that the top is just a distraction.
#86 to #82 - yomommabinshoppin
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You state that there is no definable action of the ring, claiming that it won't spin, believe me, rings are definitely capable of spinning
User avatar #83 to #82 - lolfire
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I refer you to my original comment, stating that the ring is not a viable totem.
#118 to #24 - anon id: 40cba1e9
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WRONG.

Totem doesn't need an action, so the ring is still legit.
#131 to #24 - jboienggh
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I did the research quite a while ago after reading this theory and it is of course possible that I'm wrong but if you watch carefully, I'm pretty sure that in every dream sequence he has his ring on, giving more weight to the idea that its presence alone is his real totem. Plus, I get what you mean about the action aspect but really, knowing the weight of the object would allow him to distinguish between it and a fake. Any other ring on his finger would feel different to him. IMO that's a pretty plausible explanation.
#153 to #24 - anon id: c2540ad5
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maybe you're over thinking the writing, and you're not supposed to know about the ending
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User avatar #49 to #24 - ilcecchino
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It dosn't have to spin. if his wife is dead... then they can't be "togeather" right... so he takes the ring off in reality. but while he's dreaming. nobody but him knows that he truly still loves her and isn't over her. therefor the ring symbolises that love in the dreamscape
User avatar #96 to #24 - censius
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The totem doesn't need to do a specific action. In fact, the top is the only totem does anything other than have specific dimensions and weight.
User avatar #98 to #96 - lolfire
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Wrong.

It HAS to have an action.

The top spins.
The loaded dice falls on a specific number every time.
The chess piece falls on a specific side.
Eame's chip always multiplies when he rubs his fingers over it.
Saito has no totem as he's not an extractor
Same for Fischer and the Scientist.
#124 to #98 - rakoom
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The loaded dice's point was that it was loaded. Not that it would fall, because that's only a side-thing that he could do in checking it. The only thing that REALLY mattered was the weight in the dice. Sure, if you drop it, it would always fall in a specific way, but he only needed to hold it, and feel the weight to see if the person who created the dream (if they were in a dream) had left out the detail of the die. If not, then he would be sure that they were in a dream. But if the weight was different, in the way that only he knew about, then it would be reality. Nobody could create a dream where they added a detail only he knew about.

Same with all of the other totems. You only needed a detail only you knew about, and you would have to be able to check it somehow. Touching it, like with the chess-piece, was the only necessity. Dropping it is also possible, but only optional.
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In fact, an action would make a totem more likely to fail.

> First, it would be obvious what your totem is when you constantly play with them. A bit conspicuous when someone throws a pair of dice every hour.

> Second, it's really easy to observe an action as a third party. I can easily look over the shoulder of someone and see which face the die land on, or the chess piece falls, or the top spins. It's extremely hard to observe a property of an item when you have no way of accessing thus item. I can't tell how heavy an item is or it's weight distrobution without directly handling the object.
#241 to #222 - rakoom
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True, and if you were to roll a die, it wouldn't necessarily land on the loaded side. A loaded die isn't overweighed onto one side to always get 6'es. It has gotten more weight on one side to merely increase the average number of what it lands on. The average score the die will get would be raised. It wouldn't be increased by a specific amount.

So the only CERTAIN thing a person could do, would be to touch it and hold it, etc.
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This is further solidified by the fact that a person could very easily make loaded die in a dream. The weight is what's important.
#240 to #223 - rakoom
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Yes, a loaded die could be made. However, they wouldn't know which side to load. Eheeh? Eheh? The thing was, I think, that the die wasn't loaded to just get a 6. It was loaded differently, for the pure sake of being different. Not to get the highest score possible.
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Each extractor has a unique totem unique to a certain action. I'm pretty sure the requirement was implied (if not explicitly told) to Ariadne by Arthur when he brought out his dice.
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...ahem, *die
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#234 to #57 - thatmetalguy
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This actually scared me a bit since my computer is named Tyler too. I thought I did something retarded in my sleep
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seriously how can you not figure out how to press the ******* button...
seriously how can you not figure out how to press the ******* button...
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I'm sorry tyler, but you are a retard
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Nothing made me laugh like that in a Month or so xD
******* Retard....
#18 - deadpeople
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I don't care if this is report. Thank you it completely slipped my mind that his ring was his actual Totem.

Thank you
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Now here's randomnab with the weather
#44 to #18 - slashendrix
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A pretty informative report at that.
#13 - blckmamba
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This is so old.    
This movie and memento have to be my favorite ones. Left me wondering about them for months.
This is so old.
This movie and memento have to be my favorite ones. Left me wondering about them for months.
#22 to #13 - WaffleROFLSlice
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How does memento leave you wondering for months?
User avatar #228 to #22 - blckmamba
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because it raises a lot of questions? I've seen that movie at least 30 times since it came out.
#229 to #228 - WaffleROFLSlice
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What questions? I have seen it twice, once on my own time, then another time recently for a class. There weren't any important questions left at the end of the movie. The movie itself is genius and keeps you guessing/wondering throughout the whole movie, but it doesn't leave you guessing what the ending really was at the end.
User avatar #230 to #229 - blckmamba
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**** I answered myself after watching it multiple times.

1)Leonards wife died on an insulin overdose,Sammy was a con artist who had no wife
2)Leonard has confused elements of his own life with that of Sammy
3)The real "John G" was killed a year before, leonard and teddy killed him a year earlier but leonard keeps giving himself false clues so that he can keep trying to find closure about his wifes death thats why he writes the license plate number at the end of the movie its just an unsolvable puzzle that never ends. John G is a common enough name that Leonard's search can go on indefinitely
4)Teddy wasnt a cop, he was leonards friend and has been helping him on all his quests to solve the mystery of his wifes "murder" knowing that they have already solved the case.
#233 to #230 - WaffleROFLSlice
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Teddy was a cop. Watch it again lol

He says he was one of the good cops who believed his story, that there was a second person.
User avatar #235 to #233 - blckmamba
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I thought he was a drug dealer the whole time? which would explain why he was never "working"
#237 to #235 - WaffleROFLSlice
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=keooKeQ14Fc

4:03 (he says it around 4:05)
User avatar #238 to #237 - blckmamba
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**** lol. okay see what I mean. There's so many analysis online of that movie. I've read a lot of them. teddy was just a bad cop.
ahh I want to watch it again. lol
#123 to #13 - kiboz
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Yep, Christopher Nolan is a ************* god. In my humble opinion, at least. I saw every one of his movies and they ALL kick ass.
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User avatar #17 to #15 - blckmamba
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that movie mentally raped me. I'm still unsure of the story lol
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User avatar #227 to #19 - blckmamba
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saved that. thanks!
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#208 - arborday
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Kanye West - 21 Grammys   
Leo - 0 oscars   
   
Still wanna live on this planet?
Kanye West - 21 Grammys
Leo - 0 oscars

Still wanna live on this planet?
User avatar #242 to #208 - bigleaguechew
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>implying Kanye doesn't deserve those 21 Grammies.
His ego's massive but his music makes up for it tenfold.