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User avatar #3 - sixfivefourtwoone ONLINE (06/05/2013) [-]
Am I the only one who is annoyed when people confuse metal with rock?
#48 to #3 - adu (06/05/2013) [-]
Metallic ore can be found in rocks.   
That's why metal comes from rock.   
I just completely blew your mind.
Metallic ore can be found in rocks.
That's why metal comes from rock.
I just completely blew your mind.
User avatar #53 to #48 - acrazymonkey (06/05/2013) [-]
Metal is also harder than rock
User avatar #49 to #48 - sixfivefourtwoone ONLINE (06/05/2013) [-]
This made me laugh.. A thumb for you.
User avatar #12 to #3 - daentraya (06/05/2013) [-]
This is hard rock according to wikipedia. But genres doesnt really matter much. Disturbed is also a special kind of powerful heavy metal. It's a special kind of awesome, really
#131 to #12 - toastiepie (06/06/2013) [-]
Hard rock is pretty much metal
User avatar #132 to #131 - daentraya (06/06/2013) [-]
That's what I've found, too. At least Disturbed is pretty much metal, and not quite rock
#133 to #132 - toastiepie (06/06/2013) [-]
They are more nu metal than hard rock with some alternative mental in there
User avatar #62 to #12 - drldrl (06/05/2013) [-]
I'd classify it as melodic nu-metal. It's nu-metal, but it is way more melodic than bands like Slipknot, Korn, etc.
User avatar #129 to #62 - daentraya (06/06/2013) [-]
I don't really know the definition of nu metal, but the melodic part comes more from the powerful side of metal. It's like they took melodic power metal elements and stuffed it into the hard metal frame. Shit's amazing
User avatar #4 to #3 - buriedstpatrick (06/05/2013) [-]
Metal is a subgenre of rock.
#5 to #4 - toastiepie (06/05/2013) [-]
Its actually not, Metal's biggest influences musically were Classical and Blues, the invention of amplifiers allowed for the continuation of notes and then allowed for the application of classical techniques to a new form of music
TL DR: Metal is closer to Classical than Rock
User avatar #6 to #5 - buriedstpatrick (06/05/2013) [-]
Source to verify your argument?
I would like to point out the fact that a rock band is traditionally composed of a drummer, singer, guitarist and misc instruments such as piano, organ, trumpet etc. The basic rock band layout is used in the metal genre with the added distortion effect from guitars and the loud vocalist. In classical music you would have an entire orchestra consisting of upwards to over 50 artists playing simultaneously. There certainly have been some influences from classical music over the years with harmonies and solos coming in, but these have also been in rock music since it first started. The appreggio techniques etc. have introduced the more classical aspect of Metal, but I would say the characteristics of Rock music is far more present than those of the Classical. Blues was more of a forefather to rock music, so it's only natural that metal would inherit from it.
#8 to #6 - toastiepie (06/05/2013) [-]
The orchestration that was used was replaced by the invention of the amplifier allowing for a constant note from a guitar to be held rather than die off much like other string instruments

Source is the documentary "Metal: A Headbanger's Journey"
User avatar #15 to #8 - retardedboss ONLINE (06/05/2013) [-]
Except it has nothing to do with the amplifier. You could, from a technical standpoint, play Metal on an acoustic guitar. What classifies music is the was it is organized. Metal chord progressions are most similar to those of Rock n' Roll and Blues. Metal is a sub-genera of Rock, and Rock is a sub-genera of Blues.

Whether you want to believe it or not, Classical music is just way more complex than Rock n' Roll or Metal. The Progressions aren't as simple. Most Rock and Metal songs only use 3 chords and then follow a simple pattern. Where as Classical music tends to be a bit more linear, with the over all sound of the piece changing from beginning to end.

TLDR: Metal is much closer to Rock n' Roll than it is to Classical music.
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User avatar #81 to #72 - retardedboss ONLINE (06/05/2013) [-]
In a way, sure. But it's still closer to rock.
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User avatar #125 to #85 - buriedstpatrick (06/05/2013) [-]
The key difference is that Metal is rythmic and classical is... well classical. These are two different kinds of playing and composing music as rythmic tends to focus more on the rythmic side of a song (meaning the song has a pulse, a certain pattern to follow rythmicly speaking). Let's face it; Metal really started in the days of Black Sabbath - it was a darker look at the rock genre with a more sinister tone to the sound.
User avatar #9 to #8 - buriedstpatrick (06/05/2013) [-]
But how does that make Metal lean more towards classical rather than rock? People also use amplifiers in rock - it's actually one of its primary charictaristics.
#11 to #9 - toastiepie (06/05/2013) [-]
But prior to the start of metal they didn't
User avatar #126 to #11 - buriedstpatrick (06/05/2013) [-]
So you're basically saying they didn't use electrical guitars and amps in rock music prior to when the metal movement started? That's simply not true.
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