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User avatar #79 - paintplayer (05/24/2013) [-]
Ok, to all you folks who know nothing about the Catholic church but act like it's your place to judge the worth of our Pope based on whatever the mainstream media spoon fed you this week: the Church has believed this for a long time. Coming up from kindergarten to my senior year of highschool in Catholic schools, we were always taught that anyone who is good gets into Heaven. Pope Francis only had to reiterate this because you people are too dense to pay attention to the fact that this has been this way for many years. So if you think this changes anything about the church, you're wrong. And you look incredibly ignorant posting this as "news" when we have all known it for a long time.
User avatar #116 to #79 - tohsakarin (05/24/2013) [-]
Catholics believe that you need faith and good works to get into heaven.
Only good works will get you nowhere.
#105 to #79 - jagenblitz ONLINE (05/24/2013) [-]
First off, the Pope was NOT saying that being good gets you into into heaven. He was only saying that being an atheist doesn't make you a bad person.

Secondly, he said that atheists can be redeemed through Jesus, which means they can go to heaven if they accept Jesus as the son of God. In other words, atheists go to heaven when they're no longer atheists. The Pope even released another statement after this one clarifying that.

It's cool and all that you believe that doing good is all you need to get into heaven. But your Pope, your Church and your God disagree with you.
#127 to #105 - awesomesaucetime (05/24/2013) [-]
im pagan, and honestly, if i die and see the catholic god he will judge me good for hte life i lead. i dont give a **** what god awaits me, i take care of my family and myself to the best of my ability. and what more can a god ask of you?
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#83 to #79 - anonymous (05/24/2013) [-]
thank you
User avatar #82 to #79 - lolfire (05/24/2013) [-]
Psalm 14:1

To the choirmaster. Of David. The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds, there is none who does good.


I always found it funny how you lot pick and choose which parts to believe.
User avatar #95 to #82 - paintplayer (05/24/2013) [-]
Well, we've found the smug atheist. Catholicism, or even Christianity, does not mean you have to follow the Bible to the letter. It is a reference that we are meant to interpret in our personal way. Fundamentalists are the ones who follow the Bible absolutely. And you people really don't know what you want anyway. You insult us for not following the Bible 100%, saying that we pick and choose how we live our faith so we don't really belong to the faith. But there are two problems with that: first, personal faith and communal religion are related, but not the same. Each person decides their own way to live the faith. Second, if we followed the Bible exactly 100% we would be major douchebags by any standard; no mixed fabrics, kill the gays, etc. So if you want us to be more progressive, let us be more progressive. If you want us to be fundamentalist ******** , then don't complain when we are. But ultimately if you want to get along with Catholics, keep your opinion and your personal faith to yourself. I will never initiate a conversation about faith with a person in a situation where it's not appropriate. If I strike up a conversation with someone new and they start honing in on religion, whether they're religious or atheist, it makes me uncomfortable. So here's a good rule of thumb: don't talk about religion or politics. You'll have more friends that way.
User avatar #102 to #95 - lolfire (05/24/2013) [-]
1. Nice of you to immediately jump to ad hominem. Did I insult you for your belief ? No. Yet you feel the need to insult me when you have no idea that I'm not actually an atheist, I'm an agnostic.

2. The bible exclusively states that if you wish to count yourself as Christian then you must follow all of it. If you add anything then you are destined for hell. (The bible's words, not mine) Also I wasn't insulting you, I just said I find it funny.

3. If you follow the bible then you are not allowed to decide how to follow the faith, hence the laws. There is a specific set way to live. To be a christian you lose you will to live any other way but the christian way. (This all comes from the bible itself)

Also, you're the one who brought up religion in a contentious way. I was just pointing out how what you said was incorrect.
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